Using this when I want to have G-Tab act as large GPS unit (or watch movies while driving):
It is a tad wobbly but seems secure enough with the bean bag holder.
Where did you get it. I have been looking for something similar.
And it is kept cool being in front of the A/C vents.
Here is a similar one on eBay
http://cgi.ebay.com/Car-holder-Car-Mount-Zpad-T2-Viewsonic-Gtablet-/320680588426
Lol why are you watching movies while you drive!
Looks cool though, which gps program/ gps usb did you use? Can I get a link to the thread that gave you the info? Help a brotha out, thanks!
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Sm0k3d 0uT said:
Where did you get it. I have been looking for something similar.
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I got it from WitGlobal (follow the link in earlier thread on ebay or here is another very similar for a tad less $$: http://cgi.ebay.com/Car-Kit-Windshi...?pt=US_Tablet_Accessories&hash=item20b5f7822c).
Check out BT Thread
imdaman99 said:
Lol why are you watching movies while you drive!
Looks cool though, which gps program/ gps usb did you use? Can I get a link to the thread that gave you the info? Help a brotha out, thanks!
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Check out this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847936
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I got it from WitGlobal (follow the link in earlier thread on ebay or here is another very similar for a tad less $$: http://cgi.ebay.com/Car-Kit-Windshi...?pt=US_Tablet_Accessories&hash=item20b5f7822c).
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You can also check it here for considerable lower price ($7.7 shipped)
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You can also check it here for considerable lower price ($7.7 shipped)
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Does this particular model fit the GTab properly?
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Does this particular model fit the GTab properly?
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No, I just got this mount in after two weeks in shipping and it does not fit properly. My G-Tab is just a bit wider than the maximum distance the mounts arms can be extended. A G-Tab can BARELY fit if you force the arms apart a bit wider but it is stressing the plastic a good bit. Plus, with the mount joining the mounting bracket being off center it stresses the stability of the assembly once mounted and the G-Tab bobbles noticeably on rough roads. I have mine mounted with the tab up as the suction cup is mounted to the console of my truck. My advice is to avoid this and spend your money elsewhere. I most likely will be getting a different mount simply because the tab is in the mount so tightly that it is inconvenient to get in and out of the mount. Also, the brackets interfere with the on-off switch of the Tab, as well as some of the buttons on the front of the Tab.
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No, I just got this mount in after two weeks in shipping and it does not fit properly. My G-Tab is just a bit wider than the maximum distance the mounts arms can be extended. A G-Tab can BARELY fit if you force the arms apart a bit wider but it is stressing the plastic a good bit. Plus, with the mount joining the mounting bracket being off center it stresses the stability of the assembly once mounted and the G-Tab bobbles noticeably on rough roads. I have mine mounted with the tab up as the suction cup is mounted to the console of my truck. My advice is to avoid this and spend your money elsewhere. I most likely will be getting a different mount simply because the tab is in the mount so tightly that it is inconvenient to get in and out of the mount. Also, the brackets interfere with the on-off switch of the Tab, as well as some of the buttons on the front of the Tab.
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Are you sure we are talking about the same product ?
I have the mount and I can get my gtab in/out (even without removing it from its leather) without a problem.
The mount is advertised for the ipad (7.31" width) and can't see how it should not fit the gtab (10.5" wide).
Also the brackets (as can be seen in the OP) attaches to the gtab from bottom and top (midway) there shouldn't be any interference with the (left/right) sides (where the power button is location) or with the bezel edge (where the buttons are located).
The holder works for both gtab and much wider ipad, I highly suggest you contact buyincoins.com and make sure they send you the correct product.
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Are you sure we are talking about the same product ?
I have the mount and I can get my gtab in/out (even without removing it from its leather) without a problem.
The mount is advertised for the ipad (7.31" width) and can't see how it should not fit the gtab (10.5" wide).
Also the brackets (as can be seen in the OP) attaches to the gtab from bottom and top (midway) there shouldn't be any interference with the (left/right) sides (where the power button is location) or with the bezel edge (where the buttons are located).
The holder works for both gtab and much wider ipad, I highly suggest you contact buyincoins.com and make sure they send you the correct product.
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you are right. I feel like an idiot. I was attaching the brackets on the sides, not top and bottom. Such a simple thing to not see. I can't believe it!
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Does anyone know of any cheap suction window mounts that are made to hold Hermes device (8525)?
Personally I would not recommend or risk using a cheap suction mount for a £400 device in case the quality sucks, and it dislodges from the glass and causes major damage to your device. Then the £15 you have saved from buying a quality mount pales into insignificance. I use a Brodit vent mount as these are a lot more secure, have you considered one of these?
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Does anyone know of any cheap suction window mounts that are made to hold Hermes device (8525)?
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The vents in my SCion xB are questionable at best, not sure I'd stick a vent mount on them. I used a suction window mount for my Genio PPC with a CF GPS for years and it never fell off the window.
Does your device not get real hot if you have the heat on in the winter?
My Hermes stays as normal because I just shut off that vent, similar to the one in the picture on the right
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The vents in my SCion xB are questionable at best, not sure I'd stick a vent mount on them. I used a suction window mount for my Genio PPC with a CF GPS for years and it never fell off the window.
Does your device not get real hot if you have the heat on in the winter?
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^ holy devices in your car!
on topic, I grab most of my electronic doo-dads from www.eforcity.com
I use their universal suction cup mount. Hasn't failed me yet.
Ebay !!!
I got one from ebay.
First time i drove i had the window up cause i mounted it on the window side of the stearing wheel. But i had no issues with it at all. And it was like $25AU shipped.
I bought a Bracketron Mobile Grip-It Windshield Mount for Mobile Devices from best buy.. was $32 and I'm pretty happy with it. Like the manual says, it works best when resting on the dashboard, 14" arm is helpful with my far away windshield
Shaun33 said:
I got one from ebay.
First time i drove i had the window up cause i mounted it on the window side of the stearing wheel. But i had no issues with it at all. And it was like $25AU shipped.
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thanks i been looking for one for when i got the gps running.
On really hot days my ebay bought mount falls off. :/
I had to put the bottom of the mount resting on my dash for it to not fall, i wouldn't recommend the ebay ones.
hmm, i havent had this problem at all, even though I expected it!
Its sometimes hard to get the suctioncup off the windshiled even AFTER the mechanical lever is released!
How close does yours look to the picture of the bracketron universal at bestbuy.com?
I've got the Best Buy one as well - seems to work fine. One thing I liked about it was that the rubber pads on the sides can be moved up or down the phone to avoid pushing the buttons on the sides when squeezing down on the phone (like the PTT button).
ive had pdas in my cars about 5 years now, and ive found even the expensive suction mounts arnt all that!
So i tend to find a suitable plastic holder, attach a bracket to the back, home made bit of bent metal, and fix it in behind a panel or vent to leave no marks in the dash!
Ive dont plenty of track days and the phones have been safe.
current car audi S4
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cost plastic holder £4 via ebay, bit of metal free
Interested in:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Friction-Dash-D...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item35a19a3be5
Anyone tried it that can provide some opinions? Need to know how well it works before I shell out $10.
That stand looks beefy! Does it just sit there? I kinda like this mount http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Car-Holder-...ccessories?hash=item439859b9c3#ht_3529wt_1216 made just for the HTC Dream.
eleazar6 said:
That stand looks beefy! Does it just sit there? I kinda like this mount http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Car-Holder-...ccessories?hash=item439859b9c3#ht_3529wt_1216 made just for the HTC Dream.
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I prefer dash mount, not windshield mount.
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Interested in:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Friction-Dash-D...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item35a19a3be5
Anyone tried it that can provide some opinions? Need to know how well it works before I shell out $10.
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HOLY DASH MOUNT!! You are going to have to use street view instead of the windshield to see where you are. LOL I'm sure there will be better options soon
Hi,
I'm using one similar to that but mine's a vent mount and its pretty awesome i think. The reason I got one of these friction beasts is so that i can use it with my gps and phone. Yours seems to be better than the vent mount because it swivels. Mine doesn't swivel. But overall it works and its a very good multi tasker. I usually have it on landscape and don't use the little prongs. The foam pads are good enough to hold both my phone and gps.
I bought a cheap one from Frys for $15, it has a very similar clamping design but uses a flexible gooseneck and a suction mount. It works well, the friction mount part holds the phone well. I am not a huge fan of the gooseneck though. I cant wait to get back home and start modding on it, I think I can make it much better!
G1 Windshield Mount
I purchased a windshield car mount from pocket solutions. Works great and built well.
http://www.thepocketsolution.com/PSI-54467/T-Mobile+G1+Car+Mount.html
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...38080&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_3651wt_1260
Try this one. Hella cheaper as well. Yours with shipping for me woulda cost around 30. This costs me 7. Much more "fitted" for our phone too.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...38080&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_3651wt_1260
Try this one. Hella cheaper as well. Yours with shipping for me woulda cost around 30. This costs me 7. Much more "fitted" for our phone too.
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You referring to OP or one of the previous posts? I do not want a windowshield mount, I want a dashboard mount.
Suminderji said:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...38080&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_3651wt_1260
Try this one. Hella cheaper as well. Yours with shipping for me woulda cost around 30. This costs me 7. Much more "fitted" for our phone too.
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This type of mount actually blocks the charge port so you can't charge it while in the car. Kinda a deal killer because GPS uses so much power. Phone will be dead when I get to my destination.
I ordered one of those that said it had 3 clips instead of the 4 but they sent me one with 4. Then the ebay seller, lovelypriceelement, emailed me back saying that the 3 clips one doesn't exist EVEN THOUGH IT SAYS ON THE PAGE THAT THE USB PORT ISN'T BLOCKED!
Don't buy this if you want to charge in the car.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170403618927&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
I wish I remember where i got mine. It took me 3 different ones before i found one i liked, bought them retail....just kept returning them until the 4th was the best (around $25). It has 2 clips that clip onto the vent, and a support arm between the clips that rests again the vent, doesnt move at all and the charge port is completely accessible.
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I wish I remember where i got mine. It took me 3 different ones before i found one i liked, bought them retail....just kept returning them until the 4th was the best (around $25). It has 2 clips that clip onto the vent, and a support arm between the clips that rests again the vent, doesnt move at all and the charge port is completely accessible.
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If you could find out where you got that one, that would be great. Looking for a more elegant solution to mount my G1 in my car.
I've seen the vent mount one at Staples but I don't know if it would work in my car. How long are the arms that clip onto the vent. I have a Mazda 6 and my vents are like the one in the middle of this picture:
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For those who have used the vent clip mount, do you think that it would mount to the vents just above the radio in that picture? When open they have a curved front and they are a bit deeper than the average vent.
wrong thread.
This is what I ended up getting: http://cgi.ebay.com/Car-Windshield-...ccessories?hash=item27ade217c9#ht_3359wt_1165
So far so good... it's has this dumb photo holder (the clear plastic thing) and it came with a pic of an asian chick posed over a car! LOL!
But it's hefty, solid and not a goose neck.
I finally got my Ram-Mount Tab-Tite and thought I'd share some photos.
http://www.ram-mount.com/CatalogRes...77045072079076045084065066051085/Default.aspx
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Note that in the last shot, the 'stand' is not included with the Tab-Tite. You have to buy whatever type of mounting hardware fits your needs.
Once I get this mounted in my truck, I'll share a few more pics.
very cool. makes me consider figuring out how to do the gps teathering.
OK. Go it mounted in the truck:
I have a small Bluetooth GPS (velco'd to the dash right above the tablet. The USB cable to the GPS is just for charging/power.
Of course you can see my phone & Zune setup too. I use the Zune for media rather than the tablet.
So, you have a Hitchikers Guide, a vogon poetry playback device, and a babelfish Droid X model, but where is all important towel? Or did you need it after you were done with this, being so pleased with yourself? Just kidding. It looks really good.
Cool!
Thanks for the lead,
This is what I was looking for for my [email protected]
Pictures coming soon!
and a ZUNE! how awesome!
Which mount system did you use to set this up?
second, now that you've used the tab-Tite, how do you feel it performs in holding the tablet?It looks like in the pictures you have it situated in the middle of the end holders. Did you place something at edges to keep it there, or is it holding by itself? The one thing I worry about is how the spring loaded arms do their job. Are they held secure? and how easily does your tab come in and out of the holder? Thanks...
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Which mount system did you use to set this up?
second, now that you've used the tab-Tite, how do you feel it performs in holding the tablet?It looks like in the pictures you have it situated in the middle of the end holders. Did you place something at edges to keep it there, or is it holding by itself? The one thing I worry about is how the spring loaded arms do their job. Are they held secure? and how easily does your tab come in and out of the holder? Thanks...
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I have the post mount (see my pictures at the beginning of the thread) screwed to the base of the center console. This is a pretty stable & secure setup. I get some minor vibrations/bouncing when I hit bumps (this is a truck, btw .. not a cadillac ) But all in all it's very stable.
The tablet is pretty easy to insert & remove into the holder. The holder does an admirable job of holding onto the tablet. Just out of habit, when I put the tablet in, I then to semi-center it in the holder (so that there is 'open' space above and below the tablet). After riding a bit, some of bounces/vibrations will let the tablet slide down a bit in the holder, but not much. Again, this has proven to be a pretty stable platform.
I try to leave the mount tight enough so that it won't move, but I can still grab the mount with both hands and tilt/adjust if I need to.
The reason I wanted this type of mount rather than a custom/fixed mount is for screen glare. When the sun comes in at various angles, the screen is unusable. This setup allows me to move/tilt the tablet just enough in any direction to avoid sunlight.
After having used this for a while now, I'm finding that the console area is a little cluttered. With my phone holder, a drink, etc all vying for space. Makes entering addresses into the tablet a little tough.
I'm now thinking about moving the mount up to the area where the ZUNE is now, and just letting it 'stick out'. If I decide to move it, I'll post some more pictures.
I was looking at that one, but was worried that it stated a .56" depth max, and gtab having a .7" depth. I think I will be picking this one up. As far as a pole mount and where to mount it, I had two thoughts. Mount through furthest cupholder from driver to base of floor. With cupholders in the door of my Blazers, didn't think this would be an issue. If that's too close, I might investigate mounting base to pass. side of center hub if ball mounts would allow proper angles to use. O some other way...whatever comes up.
LoganFive said:
I was looking at that one, but was worried that it stated a .56" depth max, and gtab having a .7" depth. I think I will be picking this one up. As far as a pole mount and where to mount it, I had two thoughts. Mount through furthest cupholder from driver to base of floor. With cupholders in the door of my Blazers, didn't think this would be an issue. If that's too close, I might investigate mounting base to pass. side of center hub if ball mounts would allow proper angles to use. O some other way...whatever comes up.
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Spend a little time looking through Ram-Mounts parts lists. These things are almost like Lego's ... you can match them together to make just about any combination.
Before going to this setup with the tablet, I used to use their tough-mount laptop solution along with a vehicle specific base mount. Might look to see if they make seat-bolt pattern mount for your vehicle. Then you can put a pole mount, or any other setup straight to that base without drilling/screwing up your vehicle.
I decided to move the mount up on the dash a little bit. Gives me a much better viewing angle and easier to enter addresses, etc.
I get a little bit of 'bounce', but very manageable.
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Looks great. absolutely perfect. good job.
They sell a Xoom version aswell, and the dimensions look like the gtab could fit perfectly.
What u reckon??
Best stand ever
$0.99 http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/p...a0OswsgfRP5YaYxu1hsJ6S8Ss%2F4BB9Pc%0ApQ%3D%3D
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Nice. Clean and simple. But... "Best Stand Evah!"? I don't know about that.
There is an Ikea store here, guess I will go check one out. Also might look at Target to see if there is something similar.
not very practical for a touchscreen tablet...
but not bad for a Barbie & Ken Drive-In theater scene
This one is made of chopsticks...
http://www.howgreenworks.com/diy-ipad-chopstick-stand/
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This one is made of chopsticks...
http://www.howgreenworks.com/diy-ipad-chopstick-stand/
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Knowing IKEA products, the chopsticks option is probably sturdier.
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Knowing IKEA products, the chopsticks option is probably sturdier.
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There's an IKEA about 20 minutes from my house and just across the street from my office. They do have a lot of cheap disposal quality crap but they also sell some pricey things that are built really well too.
Thinking more about it, Ikea is not that close, and doing a quick search I could probaby find a table easel made of metal for not much more but local. I would only use it for watching movies when not on the couch. hmm like at the office
Is the bottom of the holder large enough that you could cut a slot in the bottom to make the connector accessible without compromising the structural integrity of the stand?
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Is the bottom of the holder large enough that you could cut a slot in the bottom to make the connector accessible without compromising the structural integrity of the stand?
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What connector are you referring to? The dock connector on the bottom? The USB connector on the top left? The power connector on the lower left?
Looking at the photos it doesn't look like there is any kind of a groove on the horizontal piece of wood so it would seem the tab could slide off pretty easilly if you're poking at the tablet. But it does look like it's about 50% wider than the thickness of the tablet.
If you're talking about having the power cord plugged into it while you have the tablet in portrait mode then why not flip it so that the power port is on top and not the bottom? That's what I do when I use my Arkon foldable stand and I need to charge the tablet at the same time.
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What connector are you referring to? The dock connector on the bottom? The USB connector on the top left? The power connector on the lower left?
Looking at the photos it doesn't look like there is any kind of a groove on the horizontal piece of wood so it would seem the tab could slide off pretty easilly if you're poking at the tablet. But it does look like it's about 50% wider than the thickness of the tablet.
If you're talking about having the power cord plugged into it while you have the tablet in portrait mode then why not flip it so that the power port is on top and not the bottom? That's what I do when I use my Arkon foldable stand and I need to charge the tablet at the same time.
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I meant the dock connector, in the off chance that an HDMI cable ever becomes available.
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I meant the dock connector, in the off chance that an HDMI cable ever becomes available.
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Ah... I think THIS can help you with that.
gangolfus said:
Is the bottom of the holder large enough that you could cut a slot in the bottom to make the connector accessible without compromising the structural integrity of the stand?
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No need for modifying the stand, just place it upside down, most ROMs and application will auto rotate, you will free the connector as well as get a better viewing angles as reported by many.
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Ah... I think THIS can help you with that.
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Yes, I have a Dremel, I just wanted to know if the shelf was wide enough to Dremel a hole in it without sawing it in half.
nice pics..
you must have used the g tab's camera.
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Knowing IKEA products, the chopsticks option is probably sturdier.
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Mega Lols!
So true!
Looks cool though, I will totally add this to the list when I pick up a Gtab for my lady.
Nice. I've actually been using that same ikea stand for a few weeks now as well. I bought a new one, but found a 7 year old one, which is identical, except that the horizontal shelf sits half an inch higher and the aged wood matches the rear skin protector....
http://phrancis.com/test/P1060248.JPG
Looking for options for mounting the galaxy view on a wall for home calendar and kitchen use. Considering right now simply hanging it on the handle portion of the kickstand and having it tilted downward because of that. Would love if they made a flat rear panel replacement.
Any other mounting solutions that could permanently mount it to a wall?
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Looking for options for mounting the galaxy view on a wall for home calendar and kitchen use. Considering right now simply hanging it on the handle portion of the kickstand and having it tilted downward because of that. Would love if they made a flat rear panel replacement.
Any other mounting solutions that could permanently mount it to a wall?
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You might try looking for a wall mount for a monitor or TV.
dzeek said:
You might try looking for a wall mount for a monitor or TV.
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Unfortunately all wall mounts I've used for TVs have been Vesa mounts which definitely won't work for the galaxy view. Hoping for some other off the shelf solution though... Don't really want to home brew unless it's my only choice.
Thanks for the idea though!
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Unfortunately all wall mounts I've used for TVs have been Vesa mounts which definitely won't work for the galaxy view. Hoping for some other off the shelf solution though... Don't really want to home brew unless it's my only choice.
Thanks for the idea though!
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Maybe there are models that work on monitors without VESA holes? I think I remember seeing some that use clamps.
trhree
gully52 said:
Looking for options for mounting the galaxy view on a wall for home calendar and kitchen use. Considering right now simply hanging it on the handle portion of the kickstand and having it tilted downward because of that. Would love if they made a flat rear panel replacement.
Any other mounting solutions that could permanently mount it to a wall?
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gully52 said:
Looking for options for mounting the galaxy view on a wall for home calendar and kitchen use. Considering right now simply hanging it on the handle portion of the kickstand and having it tilted downward because of that. Would love if they made a flat rear panel replacement.
Any other mounting solutions that could permanently mount it to a wall?
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Search Amazon for: "Padholdr Fit View 18.4 Tablet Holder Gloss Black Designed Specifically for the Samsung View 18.4 Tablet"
Not cheap but people seem happy with it.
joker920 said:
Search Amazon for: "Padholdr Fit View 18.4 Tablet Holder Gloss Black Designed Specifically for the Samsung View 18.4 Tablet"
Not cheap but people seem happy with it.
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I did some searching around and the Padholdr Fit View 18.4 was the only consumer option I found for mounting the Galaxy View. They certainly aren't cheap, but I plan to use my Galaxy View tablets in public for customers to browse on. So the Padholdr really did fulfill a lot of my needs... even though the price was a gut punch, haha... and I needed to buy 4 of them. But if I just needed a way to mount the tablet at home, I am pretty sure I would have custom made my own way to mount it and not spent the $145usd on each Padholdr. (The flat black face plate option is $5 more... suckered me in a few more dollars, haha). I have only just started using them, but so far no complaints. They are sturdy units, provide good security, and can be attached to many styles of Vesa mounts. They shipped out my order quick, everything with the order went well.
Raykee said:
I did some searching around and the Padholdr Fit View 18.4 was the only consumer option I found for mounting the Galaxy View. They certainly aren't cheap, but I plan to use my Galaxy View tablets in public for customers to browse on. So the Padholdr really did fulfill a lot of my needs... even though the price was a gut punch, haha... and I needed to buy 4 of them. But if I just needed a way to mount the tablet at home, I am pretty sure I would have custom made my own way to mount it and not spent the $145usd on each Padholdr. (The flat black face plate option is $5 more... suckered me in a few more dollars, haha). I have only just started using them, but so far no complaints. They are sturdy units, provide good security, and can be attached to many styles of Vesa mounts. They shipped out my order quick, everything with the order went well.
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My 2 cents, I just bought one of these for the kitchen, planning to remove the kickstand to mount it on the wall, but I found the tablet quite versatile and now I want to use it in other rooms so a fixed mounting option having the kickstand removed wouldn't work for me.
I have some ikea rails in the kitchen so I just tried to hang it, doesn't play nice because the kickstand wants to open so it would end titled down, but it's something that can be sorted out. I'm sticking to this hack, in fact I'm buying a couple more rails to have more placement options.
Hope somebody else find this inspiring, here's how it looks:
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What about the new galaxy view 2?what kind of kitchen wall mount would you recomand? Thanks