hi, and is it possible to downgrade an HD2 (i've install 7 on it) to win mo 6.5 (original rom of HTC)?
If it is what is the procedure?
'Cause i cannot syncrhonize it with active sync
Thanks a lot!
I believe it is to low level format your SD card and flash an original ROM (in fact I think some other custom ROMs can still be flashed instead) - however, to sync with win7 you need to use Zune - it is a free download and much better than media player and activsync
volesprit said:
hi, and is it possible to downgrade an HD2 (i've install 7 on it) to win mo 6.5 (original rom of HTC)?
If it is what is the procedure?
'Cause i cannot syncrhonize it with active sync
Thanks a lot!
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1. Download your CORRECT STOCK ROM via HTC Website or your carrier website (if it is a branded HD2)
2. Extract the downloaded file. Find the file named: RUU_signed.nbh
Rename it to: leoimg.nbh
3. Copy it to the root directory of your micro sd card. Dont forget to reformat your micro sd card with FAT 32. Remember that your sd card need to be formatted because WP7 using different format.
4. Put your sd card to your phone. Go into bootloader, and follow the onscreen instruction.
Remember it will erase everything, including your HSPL.
Cheers..
Thanks a lot!!! exactly the type of response i need!
I forward this procedure to my friend who have the problem!!
Thanks again Silverwind!
volesprit said:
Thanks a lot!!! exactly the type of response i need!
I forward this procedure to my friend who have the problem!!
Thanks again Silverwind!
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Gosh, I just couldn't remember how many times I write that kind of procedure
Hope it will help your friend...
Cheers...
Is the procedure the same when I have Android on my HD2 ?
pHOBIAZ7 said:
Is the procedure the same when I have Android on my HD2 ?
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yes.
SOLVED: Flash won't start
Hey guys,
I tried the process silverwind described, but the flash didn't start. I was just stuck in the bootloader.
The problem was the sd card. First I tried it with the original 2GB sd card...didn't work. Then I used a 6GB SD card... and the process started.
Maybe this helps if somebody faces the same problem...
Greetz
Related
hi,
i have a t mobile ppc edition.i have a 512 mb sd card,and when i install programs on my sd card after 2-3 days all the programs are erased and it keeps happening.can anyone help me pls?
there is a problem with sd/mmc and multiple inserts/removals. Its a bug of WM200X and there is no fix for it. I unlock my sd card only when I need to change the data on it. Otherwise my card stays locked. Do a search on this forum for "Multiple SD" and "SD Erase". Good luck!
interestingfellow said:
there is a problem with sd/mmc and multiple inserts/removals. Its a bug of WM200X and there is no fix for it. I unlock my sd card only when I need to change the data on it. Otherwise my card stays locked. Do a search on this forum for "Multiple SD" and "SD Erase". Good luck!
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SO this bug is only WM2003/WM2003SE, no PPC2002?
KTamas said:
interestingfellow said:
there is a problem with sd/mmc and multiple inserts/removals. Its a bug of WM200X and there is no fix for it. I unlock my sd card only when I need to change the data on it. Otherwise my card stays locked. Do a search on this forum for "Multiple SD" and "SD Erase". Good luck!
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SO this bug is only WM2003/WM2003SE, no PPC2002?
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This bug only on wallaby's (XDA 1) running "WM2003 " it doesn't happen on WM2002.
I have an XDA 1 running 2002, and the SD card wipe problem also seem to happen to me.
I have an O2 Rom version 4.01.12 Eng.
According to this page: http://www.kbalertz.com/kb_843287.aspx
the problem might be related when two or more programs try to access the same files, so the data becomes corrupted and apparently being wiped...
Anyone have a solution or a suggestion?
I tried to follow this thread for a fix (Rune quoting spadb): http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=7230&highlight=sd+files
I can find in the registry a reference to a SD.DLL, but can't find it under file explorer, even when displaying hidden items.
Maybe one of you other XDA1\Wallaby users can find it in your device?
Tosh said:
I have an XDA 1 running 2002, and the SD card wipe problem also seem to happen to me.
I have an O2 Rom version 4.01.12 Eng.
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4.01.12 is also WM2003 and not PPC2002
Stefan
oops
Newbies mistake
So anyone have found that DLL in the windows folder?
ramram said:
KTamas said:
interestingfellow said:
there is a problem with sd/mmc and multiple inserts/removals. Its a bug of WM200X and there is no fix for it. I unlock my sd card only when I need to change the data on it. Otherwise my card stays locked. Do a search on this forum for "Multiple SD" and "SD Erase". Good luck!
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SO this bug is only WM2003/WM2003SE, no PPC2002?
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This bug only on wallaby's (XDA 1) running "WM2003 " it doesn't happen on WM2002.
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*whew*
Well, i guess i'll stay with PPC2002 then...
edit: and upgrade my signature
edit2: I had an SD-wipe-out few days ago with wm2003 4.01.12...so after searching on the forums i decided to go back to ppc2002...
Tosh said:
oops
Newbies mistake
So anyone have found that DLL in the windows folder?
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Not searcherd for it on the device. But in the basic ROM its in there...
Should be located directly in the windows folder. i think you have to enable your device to see all files. Normaly dll's are hidden...
HTH
Stefan
I've enabled my device to see hidden files...
Can you upload and attach that DLL please?
I'd like to try to tweak the registry a bit :wink:
I've enabled my device to see hidden files...
Can you upload and attach that DLL please?
I'd like to try to tweak the registry a bit :wink:
hey guys,
try formatting ur sd card with cnetx flash format .it solved the problem to certain extent.its a share ware.if u like it pls purchase after the trial period.
drpvenugopal said:
hey guys,
try formatting ur sd card with cnetx flash format .it solved the problem to certain extent.its a share ware.if u like it pls purchase after the trial period.
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Can anyone else confirm this? :roll: i really dont like PPC2002 but i dont want a wipeout again...
I'm afraid I can't confirm that, I tried to format many times as FAT32 or FAT16 and I experience the same problems as before...
Try this patch, it worked with me 100% on my Wallaby device with no SD erasings since more than 3 months 8)
Use any registry program (Resco Explorer 2003 is great) to install the registry keys or enter it manually..
Don't worry, the patch is non-destructive at all !
( you can do a backup before running this patch if you wish :wink: )
i saw stefan has a much longer version of this. does anyone have any experience with either file? BTW should i even do this if i have never had the problem before?
cheers
Similar problem on XDA II
I have noticed a similar disease on my Qtek 2020 (XDAII):
When I run it with an SDCard 512 Mb there is no problem at all, goes perfect, but as soon as I put in a brand new 1 GB SD card it crashes within a day or two. And it is irreparable... I've sent back one card to the supplier, but now on my second try with a new card and after reading in this topic I begin to felle a bit coldsweating... :x
Anyone else who has specific experince of this on XDAII?
Yup. went to use navigator today and found my SD card was nor showing. Tried it in a digicam at work which crashed the cam.
In my card reader here format shows as RAW and am having a help of a job getting it reformatted.
I use the XDA II
I also face similar problem, what i used to do is just take my sd card out and re-insert
and it worked for me
removing and replacing the card has no effect for me.
can anyone help with formatting an SD card (1GB viking) that is "unreadable" in a card reader and in RAW format??
pretty please?!??
Dear all,
I've just erased PC Communication, by flash bootimage.
I don't know why. When I flash bootimage using itsutils, my PC Communication error, and cause USB/infrared can't connect.
The only one solution is flash ROM from SD Card.
I need CAB not EXE, so I can execute from SD Card.
Please help me.
Thanks a lot for your help
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XDA I
WM2003SE
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wallaby_HT_FlashSD
Stefan
There is no Screen: 'SD Download' when flash ROM from SD
I have already follow this step, but when on step 8, there is no screen like this:
SD DOWNLOAD
Card Type:
CE OS & BOOT
Press action to Download
Or
Press REC to Exit
On my device it's only :
WALLABY
Bootloader
V5.17
GSM OK
When I press one of XDA I button, there is no screen like that, so I can't still flash ROM from SD Card.
Please help me
Thanks a lot
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1. Download XDATools
2. Extract them at any place and run osimagetool
3. Select your Rom Image from the Source drop down menu.
4. Select your SD card (disk drive) from Destination the drop down menu.
5. Select Copy to start writing process and the tool should start writing to the card.
6. When XDATools has finished writing the image (no Infomessage) put the SD-card into your device
7. If there comes a message to format the SD-card select No
8. Hold the power button and soft reset. You'll be taken to the below screen:
SD DOWNLOAD
Card Type:
CE OS & BOOT
Press action to Download
Or
Press REC to Exit
9. Press action to download and it will start the download/restore from the SD card.
10. Follow the on screen instructions once its "Completed" which will consist of a " Hard Reset"
LumpiStefan said:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wallaby_HT_FlashSD
Stefan
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Re: There is no Screen: 'SD Download' when flash ROM from SD
I know the problem is.
My BootLoader is 5.17, and must have a card key in my SD Card to use it.
My question is how to write a card key to my SD Card, so that I can flash my ROM.
Please help me
Thanks a lot
Try bootloader downgrade
There are issues regarding re-flashing w/bootloader 5.17. I had a 5.17 too before and I tried downgrading to 5.15 that allowed me to reflash my ROM. Check this out:
http://www.romkitchen.de/
search for the topic "how to unlock your device" (Thanks to Lumpi for this one)
I have read also somewhere in the forum that allows a workaround to get pass the 5.17 bootloader, I just can't remember exactly where.
Good luck!
Re: Try bootloader downgrade
I've readed it, and downloading file from romkitchen.de is in progress.
Well, I can't downgrade 5.17 to 5.15 because my USB Connection on my XDA ROM was erased, so I can't downgrade from PC.
It should be downgraded by SD Card only.
My question is: In http://romkitchen.de there's option to download like this
How would you like your ROM?
installer EXE
zipped NK.nb1 (SD-card flashing)
zipped NK.nbf (advanced users)
I must choose zipped NK.nb1 (SD-card flashing). But is it included ROM 5.15?
IF it is included ROM 5.15, thanks God. But if not, it's useless..
Please help me...
Thanks a lot..
morph751 said:
There are issues regarding re-flashing w/bootloader 5.17. I had a 5.17 too before and I tried downgrading to 5.15 that allowed me to reflash my ROM. Check this out:
http://www.romkitchen.de/
search for the topic "how to unlock your device" (Thanks to Lumpi for this one)
I have read also somewhere in the forum that allows a workaround to get pass the 5.17 bootloader, I just can't remember exactly where.
Good luck!
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Bootloader
Bootloader is different from the ROM. You can get Wallaby bootloader 5.15 from the ftp site:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wallaby/
Check this thread also:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=97306
This process worked for me. During that time (GSM error), I wasn't also able to connect to my PC thus downgraded my bootloader and re-flashed ROM via SD card.
Check this also
Hope this helps...
http://en.pdamobiz.com/en/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=371&PN=1
Still problem: Can I format with MMC not SD?
Thanks for the tutorial.
I've already tried with my MMC 512MB.
But it didn't worked.
It didn't show "SD Download". There was nothing, only Diagnostic when entered Bootloader 5.17
Was it because of my MMC Card?
Should it be used SD Card?
I don't have SD Card, only MMC.
Can I use it?
Or, is there another solution for my problem?
I think, if there were a software for ActiveSync CAB on PDA, it would help to connect to PC, since my ROM couldn't connect to PC.
Or, is there any software to format MMC Card to be an SD Card?
Please help me
Thanks a lot for your support.
morph751 said:
Bootloader is different from the ROM. You can get Wallaby bootloader 5.15 from the ftp site:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wallaby/
Check this thread also:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=97306
This process worked for me. During that time (GSM error), I wasn't also able to connect to my PC thus downgraded my bootloader and re-flashed ROM via SD card.
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Already Done. It worked. Thanks a lot
Dear all,
:lol:
I'm very happy today. It worked for me.
Thanks a lot for your support.
I'm great to be in this forum.
Thanks a lot.
At my explanation below, finally I found, I did wrong procedure.
I inserted my MMC when it was off, then full reset
In the tutorial, it was not mentioned detail.
The right procedure: insert SD/MCC when it is on, then full reset.
But anyway, it worked, I love my XDA.......
God bless you all.
samjeff said:
Thanks for the tutorial.
I've already tried with my MMC 512MB.
But it didn't worked.
It didn't show "SD Download". There was nothing, only Diagnostic when entered Bootloader 5.17
Was it because of my MMC Card?
Should it be used SD Card?
I don't have SD Card, only MMC.
Can I use it?
Or, is there another solution for my problem?
I think, if there were a software for ActiveSync CAB on PDA, it would help to connect to PC, since my ROM couldn't connect to PC.
Or, is there any software to format MMC Card to be an SD Card?
Please help me
Thanks a lot for your support.
morph751 said:
Bootloader is different from the ROM. You can get Wallaby bootloader 5.15 from the ftp site:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wallaby/
Check this thread also:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=97306
This process worked for me. During that time (GSM error), I wasn't also able to connect to my PC thus downgraded my bootloader and re-flashed ROM via SD card.
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Nice to hear that
Nice to hear that samjeff. Let's all continue to enjoy our old, old Wallabys.
How to flash gene via memory card?
if possible give the instructions please
it is very easy so no one answer ?
OR it is impossible so no one answer ?
sd card flashing
polifon said:
How to flash gene via memory card?
if possible give the instructions please
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hi, you must place the rom on the sd card and then softrest while holding down the camera button. this will make the phone enter the bootloader and look for a rom on the sd card. i think that roms have to be specially cooked to be flashef in this way
zinzar said:
it is very easy so no one answer ?
OR it is impossible so no one answer ?
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yes it is too easy with a search in this forum so no one bother to reply...i think....
Format SD-Card as FAT32.
rename RUU_Siged.nbh to GENEIMG.nbh, Put GENEIMG.nbh on SD-CARD (root).
Charge your device at 100%!
Insert SD-Card in Gene, press AND HOLD "Camera" button, and do soft-reset.
If you see white screen with "Reading SD content":
Release "Camera" button, wait, and when countdown (start from 10s) in left-bottom corner of screen is appear, press "Power" button. Flashing is begin, and approx. 8 minutes long. After you will see "Success. Press any key". Do soft-reset. Congratulation.
PS: not all the rom can be flash via SD card, if you failed, do it the normal way with USB RUU
rexypow said:
yes it is too easy with a search in this forum so no one bother to reply...i think....
Format SD-Card as FAT32.
rename RUU_Siged.nbh to GENEIMG.nbh, Put GENEIMG.nbh on SD-CARD (root).
Charge your device at 100%...........................
PS: not all the rom can be flash via SD card, if you failed, do it the normal way with USB RUU
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One thing more
In normal way by flashing using PC i make this before
1.Olipro's SPL for Old Gene
2. i have now white screen so i can flash the rom otherwise the device will breakdown if i did not jump the spl
SO by sd card there is no need to jump spl or what , explain please
greate very usefull info thanks
@Zinzar: I have never used JumpSPL trick, right from the time i flashed my first ROM, i flashed the HardSPL and as mine is a New Gene the Olipro method bricked it and then i unbricked it using Orefkov's method. HardSPL is permanently applied and is never needed to apply again. After that you can flash your phone in both way, RUU and SD Card. NO special thing is needed to do. just format the sd card with Fat32, 4096 kb cluster size (the default one), put the RUU_Signed.nbh on sd card and rename it to GENEIMG.nbh, reboot the phone in bootloader mode and it will read the rom file from sd card. After that just follow the onscreen instructions.
I hope i have answered your query coz i dont really got your question.
active sync not working after rom upgrade from sd card
hi all,
i have recently upgrade rom ver 6.5 21501 using sd card method.
now my gene could not connet with my pc for active sync.
i want to use other rom like 19971wwe_fusion9.nbh by lomlom. i like it very much.
when i soft-reset with camera button pressed, there is a try colour screen but don't show there below "usb", when i connect my phone to pc using cable.
please provide me the solution...
thanks to all....
during update from SD card...... it says reading second OS from SD, and then says "SD FAT update failed !!!"....... also is there a deriver for the 64-bit version of the USB method???
How to flash rom on gene from the sd card
hi
pls see below details for the same
.HOW TO FLASH ROM ON GENE FROM THE SD CARD
1. Rename the .nbh file of your rom of choice to GENEIMG.nbh, drop into the root of your SD card.
2.Poweroff your phone
3.hold the volume down key and while continuing to hold it power on ur phone
4. The Phone will go into the bootloader mode, and will auto detect the rom image from the SD Card and ask if you want to proceed by hitting the power button. Hit the power button and the rom will install
Note : it should take about 10-15 mins (as of now i have not tried this try at ur own risk )
also make sure that ur SD card is Fat32 or format the same to Fat32 & use a smaller memory card the smaller the better
this is as per my experience using the above method on my previous phone ie gene(P3400i)
correct me if im wrong
thanks
hari
i exactly did that..... i'm using a 2GB micro SD with an adapter.... it detects, starts, but at the reading second OS stage it fails with the error...........
Also RUU fails for 64bit system (Using Win7 HP x64).... did it on a friends 32bit....
shantanuthatte said:
i exactly did that..... i'm using a 2GB micro SD with an adapter.... it detects, starts, but at the reading second OS stage it fails with the error...........
Also RUU fails for 64bit system (Using Win7 HP x64).... did it on a friends 32bit....
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rename the ruu_signed.nbh to GENEIMG.nbh and the flash a custom rom via storage card.
rom upgrading works very fine on win7 64bit.you Just need to use the right drivers for the same.
karan999 said:
rename the ruu_signed.nbh to GENEIMG.nbh and the flash a custom rom via storage card.
rom upgrading works very fine on win7 64bit.you Just need to use the right drivers for the same.
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yes i did rename the file, then formated using fat32, 4096 allocation size.... copy the renamed file, inserted in phone, reset + camera button.... then power befor 10secs........ the process saarts but as i said... fails when it tries to read second OS......... the driver specifies for win7, vista in the guide works only for 32bit systems....
shantanuthatte said:
yes i did rename the file, then formated using fat32, 4096 allocation size.... copy the renamed file, inserted in phone, reset + camera button.... then power befor 10secs........ the process saarts but as i said... fails when it tries to read second OS......... the driver specifies for win7, vista in the guide works only for 32bit systems....
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hi
make sure u put the rom on the root of ur SD not inside any folder OK
thanks
hari
yes there is only one file.... GENEIMG.nbh, no folder, no other file..... I tried with three ROMs, two customs by others, third one my own but a stock 21911 ie without changing anything all fail at same stage.... I has earlier (long before) HardSLP'ed mine to Oref.........
I need a profeesional who could help me what to do?
First I tried to instal a new rom through using MiniSD memory card, so i got the files from a very reputable website whish is this one. the name of rom WM 6.5 21500. I entred into the bootloader, it successfully dedected the MIni SD. but the screen stoped i was not able to make a choice through the menu.
So i removed the battery then the phone doesn't want to open.
Plz can any one help me, by just telling me what to do.
islamaburahmah said:
I need a profeesional who could help me what to do?
First I tried to instal a new rom through using MiniSD memory card, so i got the files from a very reputable website whish is this one. the name of rom WM 6.5 21500. I entred into the bootloader, it successfully dedected the MIni SD. but the screen stoped i was not able to make a choice through the menu.
So i removed the battery then the phone doesn't want to open.
Plz can any one help me, by just telling me what to do.
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Repeat the process, but instead instal one of these great ROM's from here to your device.
Obelixossauro said:
Repeat the process, but instead instal one of these great ROM's from here to your device.
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as i have told you that he does not want to open, i tries several times to enter into the boot loader using a key combination of holding record+volume+restart. the results are the same======> blank screen
How to Install new ROM - Atom Life
Buddy,
Below is the guide...hope this helps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=535064
is ur WM6.5 21500 file is AL1.DIO or something else?
what is ur SDcard size? is it larger than 2G?
is ur SD card properly formatted to FAT partition?
please provide some infos....
oza_crazy said:
is ur WM6.5 21500 file is AL1.DIO or something else?
what is ur SDcard size? is it larger than 2G?
is ur SD card properly formatted to FAT partition?
please provide some infos....
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my WM6.5 is 23089... is use 2GB card (Kingston) and formatted....try changing to a branded miniSD card.
juliuscezar said:
my WM6.5 is 23089... is use 2GB card (Kingston) and formatted....try changing to a branded miniSD card.
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well... i know...
thanks for sharing. but i'm asking those question to Islamaburahmah.
in fact.. i always use V-Gen 512Mb for upgrading.
never fail.
even a "half dead" ATOM/ATOM EXEC have been fully recovered by my Luvly V-gen 512Mb. no need for JTAG unless a real Brick which can't entering bootloader at all. (did a little trick on ATOM wiki plus some improvisation to push the device entering bootloader)
hehehe....
yesterday i have revived a "stuck in DSUU Mode" Atom Life due to a Failed upgrade process from PC. (the PC is restarting itself when My Friends Running the official WM6 .EXE ROM Updater (get it from www.seeo2.com)
I flashed a stock rom
_HTC HD2_RUU_Leo_HTC_NLD_1.66.404.1_Radio_Signed_15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07_Ship
and now I check my bootloader and it says
spl-2.08 cotullahspl
so what's wrong?
I saw around the forum that hspl is erased after stock flash?
whats wrong?
hspl is only erased if you restore an official rom from your microSD card.
This is noted in 4) in the HSPL thread.
dtechnology said:
hspl is only erased if you restore an official rom from your microSD card.
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so how do I do that?
can it be done with my 8GB / 1GB sd?
what files do I import to my sd and how do I flash it?
You should really put a little more effort in searching yourself than just asking questions. If you read the HSPL thread it is all noted there and this question has been asked 1,000,000.48 times already.
okay, thanks anyways for the answer, I will check into it
Check this
Run HSPL3_PKG.exe and select SPL 1.66.0000 or a different Version with 0000 at the end.
HectiQ said:
so how do I do that?
can it be done with my 8GB / 1GB sd?
what files do I import to my sd and how do I flash it?
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No sir, Don't use a 8GB SD-card to flashing Stock ROM!
Maximum 2GB is recommended.
Steps:
- Right klick on the HTC HD2_RUU_Leo_HTC_NLD_1.66.404.1_Radio_Signed_15.30. 50.07U_2.06.51.07_Ship select Extract (Winzip/Zip7/...)
- Copy the "RUU_signed.nbh" to SD card
- Rename the "RUU_signed.nbh" to "leoimg.nbh"
- Reset the device while pressing the volume down button.
- Follow the steps on your device.
Why wouldn't you be able to use a 8GB card? The only card I have is 8GB and I've used it 2 times to restore stock rom and it has gone perfectly...
[edit]
I just tried it again it at least works perfectly for me:
1. Format SD card through windows (FAT32)
2. place leoimg.nbh of official rom on it
3. Hold voldown and power to enter bootloader screen and press power to flash
It dit restart once about 20% through with a big exclimation mark, but restarted immidiatly and completed the flashing.
This has happened once before when I had HSPL'ed my device and restored it this way.
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dtechnology said:
Why wouldn't you be able to use a 8GB card? The only card I have is 8GB and I've used it 2 times to restore stock rom and it has gone perfectly...
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The reason way I mentioned (don't use a 8GB SD-card) is based on the feedback of users.
Flash stock ROM over a 8GB SD_cards don't work in almost 70% of the cases. so to prevent (lot of troubles) We mention to use preferable a 2GB or a 4GB SD (the latest who works in 85% of the cases)
ok guys, thanks for the feedback
+1 thanks for everyone