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yesterday after flashing nero 5 i wanted to recondition, so while sleeping at night i charged my phone to 100, and now during the day time im trying to waste the battery, but during that i got caught up on adb and connected my charger, and left it there, now its back at 83% battery, does this mess up the reconditioning process? or do i have charge back to 100, then do it all over?
anyone? please lol
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anyone? please lol
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what you should do is drain it all the way untill you cant turn it on anymore and leave it chargin all night turned off, and when you wake up turn it on and let it charge untill its full again, then boot into recovery and wipe batt statt , and you should be good to go mine last about 20 hours after i did that
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what you should do is drain it all the way untill you cant turn it on anymore and leave it chargin all night turned off, and when you wake up turn it on and let it charge untill its full again, then boot into recovery and wipe batt statt , and you should be good to go mine last about 20 hours after i did that
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I did just about the same with mine, minus the chargin all night turned off, and I am getting about 20-24 hours with mine, which is more than I need as I plug it in every night
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I did just about the same with mine, minus the chargin all night turned off, and I am getting about 20-24 hours with mine, which is more than I need as I plug it in every night
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me to im near a power source or computer all the time so
What you should do is keep letting it drain until 1% or so. I don't think you need to let it die completely. Charge to 100%. Boot into recovery and clear battery stats with the charger still plugged in. This is the important part. Then drain the battery and charge to full. Then you should be good to go.
question, after draining to about 1%, does the phone have to be off? and can i use the phone just a bit while its charging?
xriderx66 said:
question, after draining to about 1%, does the phone have to be off? and can i use the phone just a bit while its charging?
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The general consensus is that when you condition you should charge the phone while it's off. I don't know enough about battery chemistry to tell you why. Just do it to be safe
Battery "recondition", actually does not "recondition" the battery, it is a trick just to get more accuarte readings (that's the only reason you reset STATS)
The battery may not charge up to 100% and will never do, just following this procedure. It will just say it is @ 100% when you actually are @ 85 or 87, that's why the sudden "jump" you see.
Best way to try to get better readings is charging the battery till it says 100%, unplug it and plug it again a couple of times until it fully charges and follow the same procedure.
Once yo did this a few times, turn off phone, reboot in CWM (with the phone never unpluged) and clear battery stats. turn off phone and unplug,,,,
You will got at least more accurate readings
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Battery "recondition", actually does not "recondition" the battery, it is a trick just to get more accuarte readings (that's the only reason you reset STATS)
The battery may not charge up to 100% and will never do, just following this procedure. It will just say it is @ 100% when you actually are @ 85 or 87, that's why the sudden "jump" you see.
Best way to try to get better readings is charging the battery till it says 100%, unplug it and plug it again a couple of times until it fully charges and follow the same procedure.
Once yo did this a few times, turn off phone, reboot in CWM (with the phone never unpluged) and clear battery stats. turn off phone and unplug,,,,
You will got at least more accurate readings
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Android Police did a piece on plugging and unplugging your phone to get up to 100% (it's called bump charging, see below). They recommended that you NOT do it because it doesn't get you much additional juice and you wear your battery out faster. Normally I just charge my battery up to 100% (no drain), wipe the battery stats, unplug and go until it dies. I use it while it's plugged in and still get a full day easily out of my phone.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/1...bump-charging-and-inconsistent-battery-drain/
I hate to be the bearer of bad news. You can not condition a Lithium-Ion battery. All you are doing is wearing it out prematurely by deep cycling. Every time you do this you destroy your over all battery life a little.
I have posted about this here in several thread, and I am getting a little tired of having to tell people NOT to do this because they don't search for themselves. Do a search on the forums for deep cycle li-ion and see for yourself.
If you want to know the technical reasons why, Google is your friend.
so we just deal with what is perceived as faster battery depletion?
Im asking because As i have posted on another threat I am a complete freak about my battery life.
Basically yes, I have 3 batteries to go around all day, although I us the car charger, if for any reason one day I take the train to the city, I will eat up 2 and a half batteries in a day.......
I had 3 batterys for my hd2 I need to get 2 new batteries for my vibrant. I guess im just tripping because I tried and over clock kernal and it seems like its dying faster while the screen is off
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news. You can not condition a Lithium-Ion battery. All you are doing is wearing it out prematurely by deep cycling. Every time you do this you destroy your over all battery life a little.
I have posted about this here in several thread, and I am getting a little tired of having to tell people NOT to do this because they don't search for themselves. Do a search on the forums for deep cycle li-ion and see for yourself.
If you want to know the technical reasons why, Google is your friend.
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went to your link, and found this..
http://www.ehow.com/how_6803484_do-lithium-battery-cell-phone_.html
anyways, i've heard it all, and even i used to agree with people like you, and it probably DOES wear out my battery, but the first time i did it, i got 6 hours more in battery, does that mean that my batterys dying because its giving me more life?
hazard99 said:
so we just deal with what is perceived as faster battery depletion?
Im asking because As i have posted on another threat I am a complete freak about my battery life.
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Yea, just chill. It is all in your head. From ROM to ROM, usage pattern to usage pattern, and app version to app version - there are just too many variables to worry about. Just use your phone, charge it when it needs it, and relax.
Your phone's battery is going to get less life as it ages. There is nothing you can do about that. Also, it will likely only get 2-3 years before it needs replacement. If it gets less than 2 years it is because you have been "conditioning" it. which ages it prematurely and also causes how long it lasts between charges to shorten as well.
Li-ion does not have a memory, so conditioning is an inherently false concept. Recalibrating the devices ability to read the battery is a different story, but it should only be done if it really needs it (like it thinks it is at 1% when it is at 20%), and it should never be done more frequently than a minimum of 30 charge cycles or if you charge it once a day when you go to bed no more than once a month. Less frequent is better.
So sorry, you need to find something else to obsess about. Might I suggest getting Team Whiskey to make BlackFroyo the default theme, use the 5 bar signal meter, the larger numbers on the battery, and the hacked camera the used the power button to take pictures. That would save all of us some time.
xriderx66 said:
went to your link, and found this..
http://www.ehow.com/how_6803484_do-lithium-battery-cell-phone_.html
anyways, i've heard it all, and even i used to agree with people like you, and it probably DOES wear out my battery, but the first time i did it, i got 6 hours more in battery, does that mean that my batterys dying because its giving me more life?
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Nice link - try reading the stuff by the engineers that work with batteries for a living now instead. You do know eHow is just a site where any idiot that thinks they know something can post, right? Are you going to reference wikipedia next?
BTW when you recalibrated your battery and got 6 more hours, did you do anything else that might have explained it? You know like flash a new effing ROM? That might possible change a few things to do with your power usage.
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Nice link - try reading the stuff by the engineers that work with batteries for a living now instead. You do know eHow is just a site where any idiot that thinks they know something can post, right? Are you going to reference wikipedia next?
BTW when you recalibrated your battery and got 6 more hours, did you do anything else that might have explained it? You know like flash a new effing ROM? That might possible change a few things to do with your power usage.
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it was a joke
and no, i flashed Nero 4.1, and then used it for a week thinking the phone would adjust to the battery and new rom, it didn't.
then i thought i'd just take a chance and recondition my battery, it was my first time, and it worked out great.
and trust me i'm a heavy user.
roughly 300-400 texts per day.
20-40 phone calls
music about 5 hours per day
and i play soem games, but thats understandable because playing dungeon defenders uses like 30% battery per hour bcz of the high graphics and such.
a bunch of app downloading.
Hi guys, I am at my wits end with this stupid phone, If its not one problem its another. I was convinced this phone would have amazing battery life once seeing my cousins AT&T version, I bought the UK T-mobile version and its been plagued with faults. The main fault it has developed now is that it won't charge past 96%, I have configured the battery and installed the 1% battery fix and nothing is happening also my battery has been draining quicker than usual. Sometimes I get 13hrs sometimes I get 7hrs!? Could someone give me some advise? I was thinking of ringing my insurance company for a replacement (as it is with my bank and usually they just replace the phone)
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Hi guys, I am at my wits end with this stupid phone, If its not one problem its another. I was convinced this phone would have amazing battery life once seeing my cousins AT&T version, I bought the UK T-mobile version and its been plagued with faults. The main fault it has developed now is that it won't charge past 96%, I have configured the battery and installed the 1% battery fix and nothing is happening also my battery has been draining quicker than usual. Sometimes I get 13hrs sometimes I get 7hrs!? Could someone give me some advise? I was thinking of ringing my insurance company for a replacement (as it is with my bank and usually they just replace the phone)
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You should probably research a little bit more on the forums as there is a million answers about battery life issues.
here is a guide Fix Battery Life: Ultimate guide (calibrate + post#2 -FIXES)
ClearFire said:
You should probably research a little bit more on the forums as there is a million answers about battery life issues.
here is a guide Fix Battery Life: Ultimate guide (calibrate + post#2 -FIXES)
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thats the guide I have followed, it does not work for me
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thats the guide I have followed, it does not work for me
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Yes it does. Charge with the phone turned off and it will get to 100%.
Also, read post #2.
xploited said:
Yes it does. Charge with the phone turned off and it will get to 100%.
Also, read post #2.
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I'm sorry, are you sitting in front of my phone? I have followed this correctly on another atrix and it has worked for them, I don't know why its not working on mine I have followed it through properly.
How long have you had the phone?
One thing we all have to consider is that since the dev community has had to provide "fixes" for the Battery Reading on the Atrix it might be safe to say that at some point the measurement might become too accurate. What I mean by this is, I've had my phone for almost a year now and I'm pretty convinced that the reason my battery won't charge past 97% is because of the natural degradation of the lithium battery. It is a fact that lithium batteries can lose up to 10% of its charge capacity after a year. So I've accepted the fact that my battery just might be losing capacity and the battery mods I have applied to my phone are just that much more accurate.
This reminds me of the recently released Galaxy Nexus and people complaining about the signal and Verizon responded with that the "reading" was too accurate and that they'll release a patch that will basically "lie" to the end user about the strength of their connection.
http://www.androidcentral.com/verizon-galaxy-nexus-signal-strength-its-not-us-its-you
Verizon is just basically saying "Here, let us cripple your phone for you"
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I'm sorry, are you sitting in front of my phone? I have followed this correctly on another atrix and it has worked for them, I don't know why its not working on mine I have followed it through properly.
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I have had the phone for about 3 months now. This is why I am saying its weird. The fact that it dies so quickly is another thing I got about 7 hours of moderate use with about 1hr 45 display time with 10 mins of music and about 10 texts and a few phone calls(about 3 short 5 min ones)l
All of you are talking percent. What is the power level of the battery at max charge? Battery showing charging to 100%, or any other percent, and having full charge are not the same thing.
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I have had the phone for about 3 months now. This is why I am saying its weird. The fact that it dies so quickly is another thing I got about 7 hours of moderate use with about 1hr 45 display time with 10 mins of music and about 10 texts and a few phone calls(about 3 short 5 min ones)l
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Could be a faulty battery. If you've only had it 3 months I would try to get the battery replaced if it has drain issues.
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All of you are talking percent. What is the power level of the battery at max charge? Battery showing charging to 100%, or any other percent, and having full charge are not the same thing.
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You make a good point, I use Battery Monitor Widget Pro and keep an eye on usage time rather than battery level.
CaelanT said:
All of you are talking percent. What is the power level of the battery at max charge? Battery showing charging to 100%, or any other percent, and having full charge are not the same thing.
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The battery never reaches 100 on the phone it will sit there at 96% and even the battery calibration app says the battery isnt at 4200mv (which apparently it should be) its at 4190. I never charge mid way I always let the phone get to about 15% then chuck it on charge.
You make a good point, I use Battery Monitor Widget Pro and keep an eye on usage time rather than battery level.
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Well I use the internal android one but I want to know whats draining it because today nothing was running, i had everything shut down and frozen that wasn't necessary.
You might need to use a 3rd party app to find the "rogue" app/process. Other than BMW, I also use System Panel to monitor it if I notice my usage time is depleting, it works well. You have to have monitoring activated and it's only available on the paid version, but you can use the free version to manually watch your apps/processes.
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Well I use the internal android one but I want to know whats draining it because today nothing was running, i had everything shut down and frozen that wasn't necessary.
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You might need to use a 3rd party app to find the "rogue" app/process. Other than BMW, I also use System Panel to monitor it if I notice my usage time is depleting, it works well. You have to have monitoring activated and it's only available on the paid version, but you can use the free version to manually watch your apps/processes.
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Ok so I recalibrated the battery and got rid of the 96% freeze but now the drain is quicker than ever :S
have you tried wiping battery stats as well? Also, when you recalibrate, do you go through a couple "full" charge cycles? As in, do you allow the phone to fully discharge and then completely charge it plus at least an extra hour? I know that lithium batteries do not have the "memory effect" but I think it has more to do with software rather than the battery itself.
amzter said:
Ok so I recalibrated the battery and got rid of the 96% freeze but now the drain is quicker than ever :S
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have you tried wiping battery stats as well? Also, when you recalibrate, do you go through a couple "full" charge cycles? As in, do you allow the phone to fully discharge and then completely charge it plus at least an extra hour? I know that lithium batteries do not have the "memory effect" but I think it has more to do with software rather than the battery itself.
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yeah i do wipe battery stats but the mAh is not going to 4200 its stuck at 4186 nd wont go past 98%
Something else you could try that I've read around here.
1. Charge the battery for like 4 hours until it won't charge anymore.
2. Unplug the phone from the charger, turn it off, and then pull the battery out
3. Plug the phone back into the charger (Do not put the battery back in yet)
4. Wait for the phone to show an image of a battery with a question mark in it.
5. Put the battery back in.
6. Wait for it to recognize the battery, it will probably give a very low percentage like 5% or 10%.
7. Do not turn it on yet, let it charge for another hour or so.
8. Once you return, it will still probably show a low battery reading, ignore that and boot into recovery while it's still plugged in by long-pressing the power button and when you see the green led notification light press and hold volume down
9. Wipe battery stats and then reboot.
10. Wait for it to boot and then unplug it from the charger and check the battery reading.
I really don't understand what this does but I've read it has fixed the issue for some people.
amzter said:
yeah i do wipe battery stats but the mAh is not going to 4200 its stuck at 4186 nd wont go past 98%
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I've bought a new legit/official (has holo, serials etc.) Atrix battery.
Charged it to 100%.
During usage, its draining literally 10% an hour with very light usage (several minutes an hour). In short its draining at three times the speed of my 1 year old battery.
I've tried wiping battery stats but that didn't work.
Any ideas, or is the stats just buggered and I just gotta run it in? (ie it will go to zero then sit on zero for 5-6 hours lol)
note I've gone back to my original battery in meantime rofl
EDIT: The actual problem is that the batt is reporting much less capacity than it actually has
|The new battery is great capacity wise lasts till midnight
However the stats are still totally screwed, it will say 1% by midday, then hum along until midnight fixed at 1% (I dunno exactly how long for as I can't take the risk of leaving it off at night then its dead and I don't wake up for work in morning). |
Could just be a bad battery. Considering the old works fine that's probably the problem.
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I've bought a new legit/official (has holo, serials etc.) Atrix battery.
Charged it to 100%.
During usage, its draining literally 10% an hour with very light usage (several minutes an hour). In short its draining at three times the speed of my 1 year old battery.
I've tried wiping battery stats but that didn't work.
Any ideas, or is the stats just buggered and I just gotta run it in? (ie it will go to zero then sit on zero for 5-6 hours lol)
note I've gone back to my original battery in meantime rofl
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wintermute000 said:
I've bought a new legit/official (has holo, serials etc.) Atrix battery.
Charged it to 100%.
During usage, its draining literally 10% an hour with very light usage (several minutes an hour). In short its draining at three times the speed of my 1 year old battery.
I've tried wiping battery stats but that didn't work.
Any ideas, or is the stats just buggered and I just gotta run it in? (ie it will go to zero then sit on zero for 5-6 hours lol)
note I've gone back to my original battery in meantime rofl
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I have a similar problem with the original battery that came with phone it drains the charge quickly to 1% and on one 1% it gives a battery life of more time than the time it took to discharge from 100%.i was thinking of buying a new battery but now i am confused that what should i look before buying the battery to get a battery that can show me the exact charge on the indicator.
I have tried all tutorial of calibration used different roms and kernels but nothing seems to solve the issue.
well I might try that then, just let it run to zero see how long it lasts then see whether the stats come good over time
OK help needed.
The new battery is great capacity wise, lasts from morning to bedtime with >2 hours of bluetooth music, 30 mins calls, a ton of texts.
However the stats are still totally screwed, it will say 1% by midday, then hum along until midnight fixed at 1% (I dunno exactly how long for as I can't take the risk of leaving it off at night then its dead and I don't wake up for work in morning).
Aside from wiping stats which I have tried, is there anythnig else I can do?
I really want to use it, like I said real life capacity is great, but if its always giong to be reporting 1% its a bit dicey not knowing how much batt you really have left...
same issue with my spare battery not sure wtf is going on
When I have battery stat problems the following has always fixed it:
1) leave phone on until it dies
2) take back off phone and plug into wall charger
3) after batt symbol shows 100% (without unplugging or turning off the phone) remove the battery. After a minute or so battery symbol will have question mark
4) put battery back in and leave it for at least 2 hours (seems like I have had to press the switch sometimes but you don't want the phone to reboot or you will have to start all over)
5) reboot into CWM and wipe the battery stats
6) reboot and it should be good to go
Anyone else found a fix to this yet?
I'm now running ICS (turl build) issue is still there.
Steps taken to resolve
- discharge to zero
- charge to max
- wipe stats
still there.
The weird thing is that the actual capacity is fine, it can last all day no worries, just from midday onwards it thinks its 1% so has annoying LED flashing at you, also you have no idea how much batt it actually has.
Edit: I just realised your suggestion above has extra step (take batt out of connected atrix then insert again). I guess I'll have to drain it again and do it overnight... gah
wintermute000 said:
Anyone else found a fix to this yet?
I'm now running ICS (turl build) issue is still there.
Steps taken to resolve
- discharge to zero
- charge to max
- wipe stats
still there.
The weird thing is that the actual capacity is fine, it can last all day no worries, just from midday onwards it thinks its 1% so has annoying LED flashing at you, also you have no idea how much batt it actually has.
Edit: I just realised your suggestion above has extra step (take batt out of connected atrix then insert again). I guess I'll have to drain it again and do it overnight... gah
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Nothing will work i have tried almost every tutorial. Recently i found out the phone is showing the the full capacity of battery only 500 that's why i think we will have to change that with the actual voltage to get a accurate battery indicator.What's ur battery full charge design check if from the root exploler
/sys/devices/platform/cpap_battery/power_supply/battery
My phone uevent is showing this
Powersupply-capacity=5
Powersupply-voltage-now=3836000
Powersupply-temp=260
Powersupply-charge-fill-design=500
Powersupply-charge-counter=1
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Nothing will work i have tried almost every tutorial. Recently i found out the phone is showing the the full capacity of battery only 500 that's why i think we will have to change that with the actual voltage to get a accurate battery indicator.What's ur battery full charge design check if from the root exploler
/sys/devices/platform/cpap_battery/power_supply/battery
My phone uevent is showing this
Powersupply-capacity=5
Powersupply-voltage-now=3836000
Powersupply-temp=260
Powersupply-charge-fill-design=500
Powersupply-charge-counter=1
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I'll try the insert empty bat into already connected phone, charge to 100% remaining off, repeat trick overnight, then report back.
FWIW on my 'good' battery which is 1 year old ROFL it says 1880
not sure how changing it would help though or is even possible?. It must be dynamically reported somehow as my good battery gives me a 'good' stat.
I use battery calibration and it worked, have it
http://bit.ly/Ah732P
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the battery is charging calibration if you have to load it to calibrate
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FWIW on my 'good' battery which is 1 year old ROFL it says 1880
not sure how changing it would help though or is even possible?. It must be dynamically reported somehow as my good battery gives me a 'good' stat.
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How much is ur other battery showing.I have tried different ways but was not able to change values.
500 same as you! second drain and calibrate did nothing
Maybe theres a faulty batch of batteries and we both got one
Can people PLEASE stop telling us to calibrate we've BOTH DONE THAT MANY TIMES NOW. The problem is that the capacity of the battery is being reported as 500mah not 1930 or whatever its supposed to be. THe actual running time of the battery is fantastic, just thinks its at 0 all the time lol
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Powersupply-charge-fill-design=500 - should be ~1900mah
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If I keep my phone on charging even after its on 100%, it starts rolling back. As in from 100 to 99 then 98, even if its pluggen in.
Don't know what kind of a problem this is, hardware or software.
Or there's some issue with the battery.
Please help.
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If I keep my phone on charging even after its on 100%, it starts rolling back. As in from 100 to 99 then 98, even if its pluggen in.
Don't know what kind of a problem this is, hardware or software.
Or there's some issue with the battery.
Please help.
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Sometimes I have the same problem. I dont know if it is caused of a program running in a background or what, but reboot helps
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Sometimes I have the same problem. I dont know if it is caused of a program running in a background or what, but reboot helps
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I know the reboot helps.
But usually I put it on charging at night before sleeping.
And when I wake up in the morning, the battery % becomes even less than what it was when i plugged it in.
I'm usually in a hurry then to leave for college in the morning . Can't go to college with battery % less than even 10
Thanks for the reply anyway !
lakshay03 said:
I know the reboot helps.
But usually I put it on charging at night before sleeping.
And when I wake up in the morning, the battery % becomes even less than what it was when i plugged it in.
I'm usually in a hurry then to leave for college in the morning . Can't go to college with battery % less than even 10
Thanks for the reply anyway !
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Maybe You have some program that syncs something all the time. Did You try to turn off data and wifi. You can always check it if the reason is the hardware or Software. Just make a backup of Your whole ROM, delete the data and leave the phone over night. I hope it is only software problem.
EDIT: Does Your battery go hot while charging? Oh, and try to wipe battery stats
jakuburban said:
Maybe You have some program that syncs something all the time. Did You try to turn off data and wifi. You can always check it if the reason is the hardware or Software. Just make a backup of Your whole ROM, delete the data and leave the phone over night. I hope it is only software problem.
EDIT: Does Your battery go hot while charging? Oh, and try to wipe battery stats
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Yes, my battery does get hot while charging.
And I did wipe the battery stats but its of no use.
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Yes, my battery does get hot while charging.
And I did wipe the battery stats but its of no use.
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Maybe there is really some program that is causing that. I had this problem rarely so I never cared. I had one program called Batterymonitor or sth. like that and it was the reason. Do You have such a program, that shows Your battery level or temperature?
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Maybe there is really some program that is causing that. I had this problem rarely so I never cared. I had one program called Batterymonitor or sth. like that and it was the reason. Do You have such a program, that shows Your battery level or temperature?
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Yes, I have setcpu and rom toolbox.
But would these applications really cause this problem?
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The x10 charges the battery to full then if still plugged in it will stop charging until batt drains to set level ,then will charge to full again and over and over all night. X10 wont over charge batt when left plugged in. Kernel/bootloader handle this. There is an app current widget that can log charge levels.
EDIT: I had a tip on charging here but removed it after further research read more about batt here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
ToledoJab said:
The x10 charges the battery to full then if still plugged in it will stop charging until batt drains to set level ,then will charge to full again and over and over all night. X10 wont over charge batt when left plugged in. Kernel/bootloader handle this. There is an app current widget that can log charge levels.
EDIT: the best tip I usr for battery life is, let batt runout until phone shuts off, then pull batt, then plug in charger, then replace batt into phone, then phone will boot, enter xrecovery on first boot and wipe batt stats. After wipe while still in xrec pull batt then unplug. Now plug in phone then insert batt. Phone should boot in charge mode( big batt icon only on screen) dont start phone untill light green for 1-2 hours to get full charge . I do this about once a month, when phone starts to shut off around 15%
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As mentioned above as well, this is normal. After charging to 100%, the phone stops battery charging, and will activate charging again only when battery falls a bit (say 97%). Also, battery heating while on charging (and also when using the phone continuously while playing a game) is normal. Relax.. your phone is fine
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I am having the same issue with battery... phone switching off at 15%, even at 22-23%, when playing a game or something. But switching it back on, and leaving it idle, phone might run for another 2 hours. So it is the extra load while running a game that the phone cant take any longer (i remember getting the 15%,10% and 5% reminders earlier while playing games)...? Does the battery calibrate method actually help in your case? does it go all the way down to 0% or 1% before shutting down.. ?
I just did this after posting that. And yes my phone reported warnings @ 25% 15 10 5 and then shutdown @ 1%.
This way is like reconditioning an old rechargeable ni-cad batt.
All this does is completey drain batt then, with least amount of drainage (phone on, apps& radios running) allows battery to full charge.
There is also a way called recalibrate battery. But this way over charges the batt.
EDIT: I think the phone load will effect reported batt left. I think batt gage use average loads to estimate remaining power. Meaning games, full brightness of LCD, radios -3g -GPS -WiFi -Bluetooth will use more than avg power
edit 2: I found this thread also has some very good points and links. after reading this i will not intentionally take my batt to 0%. I hit 0% about 1-2 times a month on accident as it is. i will just make sure when i do go 0% to wipe stats (dont know if it helps or not) then preform a long (overnight) full charge with phone off.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1445698
SORRY for ranting on about this, i thought i was smart but i am still/always learning.
From my XPERIA X10S v8.2 on kCernel @ 1.19ghz
Hi guys.
Today, while I was playing with NOVA 3 and charging my phone, I notice that the battery of the S2 had been uncharged a little. This is a little weird because my phone was in charge. I know that games (NOVA 3 specially) are big battery eaters but I've never had a phone that discharges it battery if connected, neither sleeping or awake. Battery Widget says, with phone unplugged, that NOVA eats over 800 mA while playing. Is this nor.al? Anyone can play that game while charging and check if happen the same as me?
Any help will be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
lanluckez said:
Hi guys.
Today, while I was playing with NOVA 3 and charging my phone, I notice that the battery of the S2 had been uncharged a little. This is a little weird because my phone was in charge. I know that games (NOVA 3 specially) are big battery eaters but I've never had a phone that discharges it battery if connected, neither sleeping or awake. Battery Widget says, with phone unplugged, that NOVA eats over 800 mA while playing. Is this nor.al? Anyone can play that game while charging and check if happen the same as me?
Any help will be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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Fuel gauge, no worries.
gastonw said:
Fuel gauge, no worries.
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So I need to reset fuel gauge? Or you may want to sat that altough phone marks that battery level, phone is actually charging. ?
Thanks !
PD: I use Official Extended Battery.
If it suddenly drops from 60 % to 5 %, worry.
If it goes up on it's own, don't.
It's up to you, fuel gauge can be fixed. Read about it, It's here in xda somewhere.
Mine goes up 2, 3, 5 % when I unplug it sometimes, so I think of it as a wireless charger
gastonw said:
If it suddenly drops from 60 % to 5 %, worry.
If it goes up on it's own, don't.
It's up to you, fuel gauge can be fixed. Read about it, It's here in xda somewhere.
Mine goes up 2, 3, 5 % when I unplug it sometimes, so I think of it as a wireless charger
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Not just that. But yes, it doesn't drop from 60 to 5, but goes up. However, that's not the problem. The problem is that when I'm playing phone demands more energy than provided by the charger, so battery goes down instead going up. I've never had a phone that do this way, playing games with the carger or not. This has made me think that could be a problem with the charge port or something like that so in order to discard this hipothesis I attach you my last charge history of tonight. I hope it's normal.
It seems like charge is irregular. At the first percents, battery grows slowly but in the middle of the capacity (~50%), charge rate is around 800 (while in theory our charger gives a max of 650 mA). That could be the answer. But I'd want to know if my charging is normal.
Thanks.
Nasty.
When batt gets to 100 % remove it and let it sit for a 3 min, then put it back.
There's a lot of battery threads here in Q&A.
Try searching key words like "charging" "volting","fuel gauge", "battery drop", "power drop" and so on.
Betterbatterystats is also a good app to see what's going on with your battery. Highly recommended.
What ROM are you on again? If stock, you can always flash a custom kernel, improves the battery life significantly.
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Nasty.
When batt gets to 100 % remove it and let it sit for a 3 min, then put it back.
There's a lot of battery threads here in Q&A.
Try searching key words like "charging" "volting","fuel gauge", "battery drop", "power drop" and so on.
Betterbatterystats is also a good app to see what's going on with your battery. Highly recommended.
What ROM are you on again? If stock, you can always flash a custom kernel, improves the battery life significantly.
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I'm on Stock 4.0.4 with Apollo kernel. Battery is not bad for me I think but the problems it has, like:
-With stock 1650 mAh battery: sometimes I got freezes while i'm playing and when I reboot the phone, battery has dropped from 60 % to 12 %. But if I leave my phone on idle, battery recharges itself. WEIRD.
-With both 1650 and 2000 mAh, if I play intensive games while phone is charging, battery doesn't load. Istead, battery drops 1 % per 10 minutes approximately. WEIRD.
Anyway, thanks for your answer. I will try better battery stats and read anything else in forum.
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Nasty.
When batt gets to 100 % remove it and let it sit for a 3 min, then put it back.
There's a lot of battery threads here in Q&A.
Try searching key words like "charging" "volting","fuel gauge", "battery drop", "power drop" and so on.
Betterbatterystats is also a good app to see what's going on with your battery. Highly recommended.
What ROM are you on again? If stock, you can always flash a custom kernel, improves the battery life significantly.
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I'm on Stock 4.0.4 with Apollo kernel. Battery isn't bad for me but the problems it has, like:
-With stock 1650 mAh battery: sometimes I got freezes while i'm playing and when I reboot the phone, battery has dropped from 60 % to 12 %. But if I leave my phone on idle, battery recharges itself. WEIRD.
-With both 1650 and 2000 mAh, if I play intensive games while phone is charging, battery doesn't load. Istead, battery drops 1 % per 10 minutes approximately. WEIRD.
Anyway, thanks for your answer. I will try better battery stats and read anything else in forum.