A little confused about root/custom ROM installation - Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I am comfortable with any of the steps that need to be taken to gain root and install custom ROMs I just had a simple question. If I am starting off with a completely stock FroYo ROM can I just ODIN CWM recovery and flash a rooted custom ROM and I'm done? Or do I need to go through the process of rooting first?(flashing superuser and busybox through CWMR)
I have seen different answers after searching for a while.
Thanks.

I know when i first did mine i flashed Super clean using Odin. but alot of the newer roms are CWM flash not Odin

This is what i would do, find a rom you want, download it and place it on your sdcard.
Root and flash cwm via Odin using the PDA button.
Boot to cwm and create a backup,
Once backup is complete ,
Perform, wipe cache, dalvik cache, and factory reset. Then navigate to "install zip from sdcard" locate the rom you just downloaded, flash it. Let it boot.
Once booted all the way up, reboot to recovery and create a new backup. If you chose a voodoo rom disable voodoo, let the phone reboot again fully, the reboot to recovery and create a backup.
When the new backup is finished reboot the phone again.
Once booted backup, remove the lagfix and reboot again.
Find a theme and your good to go.
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Also MAKE SURE YOU RENAME YOUR BACKUPS, so you don't lose your stock backup.
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Help going back to stock from Simplestreak

I downloaded my version of choice from the wiki but it is an "img" file.
Because of all the updating I've been doing, my phone only updates from zips now. How do I install the "img" file?
Thanks
Wait...
You downloaded an .img file? That means you downloaded the recovery image for the ROM you chose to use rather than the ROM itself. Stock ROMs use .pkg as an extension. In any event, you need to download the recovery image for the ROM version you choose to use anyway, because you will need to replace your existing recovery image with the one you downloaded in order to be able to flash a stock ROM.
I think I have this figured out. I have to flash the recovery img to my phone using fastboot then use the phone's recovery feature to install the pkg, correct?
Yup, that is correct
Make sure the update.pkg is on the root of your sdcard.
Make sure to backup before proceeding just in case.
I ended up back on simplestreak because nothing else would go back on and be stable, not even the nandroid I made a few days ago would run.
Put on the most basic version with no upgrades and it isn't too bad, although last night in the middle of a game of Angry Birds the screen went black and the phone restarted. Did it twice then started behaving properly again.
Might wanna try doing a factory reset after flashing the rom
If you still have StreakMod Recovery (the custom recovery) can also try wipe delvik cache and wipe cache partition then do your flashing
As usual, do a backup before proceeding!
Wipe all that before flashing? I keep doing it afterwards because that's what I saw for instructions somewhere.
mid_life_crisis said:
Wipe all that before flashing? I keep doing it afterwards because that's what I saw for instructions somewhere.
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Oops ... mistype that ... your right, should be after.

[Q] 2.3.5 with KI3 . Unable to install CM7

Hi,
Currently using latest firmware KI3 with root.
I'm able to use CWM, backup, install zips, everything.
However, if i install a ROM trough a ZIP, i get a boot loop.
Only way to get back the phone, it's to install via ODIN with latest KI3.
Even tried with Litening Rom, and got the boot loop.
Any ideas ?
I was very keen to return to CM7.
Tx in advance.
Did you exactly what's mentioned here?
Install via ClockworkMod (do not use ROMManager for initial install):
Make sure you're running a rooted device.
Root your device and install ClockworkMod Recovery (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1118693)
Do a Nandroid backup!
WIPE (wipe data/factory reset + wipe cache partition) - do it for real.
Install the ROM from internal sdcard using ClockworkMod Recovery.
Do not reboot! We mean it - do nothing except choose zip and continue next step (if you come back to us with permission issues in install, we will know you did not read the directions and will call you an idiot). If it just plain hangs, reboot directly back into ClockworkMod recovery and continue at the next step.
Install the ROM from internal sdcard using ClockworkMod Recovery, again (due to a bug in the install).
Reboot
Install the Google Addon through ROMManager which is easiest, but you can
download the gapps.zip and install via ClockworkMod recovery instead.
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Did you try flashing a old stock ROM like KH3, root it then try from this base?
I went from Villain ROM 2.3.5 to CyanogenMOD without any problems.
It's essential that you flash CyanogenMOD !TWICE! in a row when you're coming from a stock ROM.
Thanks.
Gonna check, as soon as i'm @ 127.0.0.1
Same behaviour, back to boot loop.
Tanx anyway!
I had a similar problem so here goes my help.
Cf root kernel uses a modified version of CWM that isn't compatible with CM7 or something like that. So what I did was flash this kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1118693. Get the kernel with CWM 5.x.y.z With that I got a compatible version of CWM and from there I flashed CM7. It is important that you do a full wipe, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache, format \system, everything so you don't get any trouble. THen you flash the CM7 zip file, when tha t is done, flash the zip again for a second time (don't reboot just do it after the first flash). After that reboot. That worked for me at least.
A tip: If you can't reboot your phone and you have no ROM zip file to flash via CWM you can mount usb storage from CWM for putting the ROM in sd card and flash with CWM. That way you don't have to use ODIN to recover.
Tanx Tomas.
Tried with CWM 5.x.y.z and upon "WIPE" always got an error for mounting partitions.
Could't mount CACHE, SDCARD .....
Tx anyway.
Back to ODIN, back to stock 2.3.5
PS : I have to get a JIG to reset ...

GOD I feel like a noob! Optimus V, CWM, and rom issues

I rooted my device using Gingerbreak.
I have 2.2.2 installed out of the box. I installed CWM. I installed busybox.
Busybox failed. I tried all the versions that it contains.
I checked root status, and RootCheckBasic says I'm rooted.
I installed Flash ClockworkMod Recovery. It will not reboot to CWM.
It only reboots to the standard Android recovery.
I'm trying to install Bumblebee ROM 2.4.
Here are some things I am having issues understanding with it...
Backup current apps and their data with Titanium Backup (available in the Market). Is this required? The phone is new. I have nothing to back up.
Do a nandroid backup in recovery before doing anything else below.
And the nandroid backup is done with CWM? Again CWM won't reboot, only the standard Android recovery boots.
Required if installing BB 2.x for the first time: Wipe. Wipe it all. Data, cache, system, dalvik-cache, sd-ext if you've got it (might need to look under Advanced or Mounts in recovery to do the last two, and while you're there format /system). I assume you wipe it all with CWM while in recovery?
If upgrading from BB 2.3, wipe cache (and only cache) in recovery.
Does not apply to me
If not upgrading from 2.3, install Wiper zip (see below), just to be extra sure that all is wiped. Don't reboot yet. Installing wiper.zip is done by sideloading using adb commands?
Install ROM zip (see below).
I assume this too is done by copying the zip to the external SD, then selecting update from SD card in recovery... right?
Please someone shed some light on this for me.
In standard Android recovery it says e3. I know on my Captivate I had to use Odin to install GB loaders to get it to work.
THANKS!​
Flashwork mod recovery? Never heard of it.
Try downloading rom manager from the market and use that.
Everything else should be simple
tvall said:
Flashwork mod recovery? Never heard of it.
Try downloading rom manager from the market and use that.
Everything else should be simple
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Flash ClockworkMod Recovery
It's in rom manager.
Which I installed from the market.
But I don't get the CWM recovery when I reboot into recovery mode.
I get the standard Android recovery
-you know... the one that just has "install update.zip"
bulltproof said:
Flash ClockworkMod Recovery
It's in rom manager.
Which I installed from the market.
But I don't get the CWM recovery when I reboot into recovery mode.
I get the standard Android recovery
-you know... the one that just has "install update.zip"
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Oh, okay, um... are you using the reboot into recovery option in rom manager right after flashing?
After flashing what?
I reboot into recovery through rom manager and get:
Android system recovery <3e>
reboot system now
apply sdcard: update.zip
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache partition
_________________________________________________________
Android System recovery...
Do not pull out the battery!!
After hitting flash clockworkmod recovery, immediately hit reboot recovery
After hitting anything in CWM it did nothing more than reboot into the standard android recovery.
This phone has 2.2.2 on it. Problem? Probably.
I followed instructions at androidcentral and got it to work.
Needed Xionia_CWMA_12518.6_VM
Installed BACKside-IHO-VM670-11222011
using Xionia_CWMA_12518.6_VM_Recovery-signed
Had a little problem today and needed to activate the phone. BUUUUT......
the rom didn't allow activation.
So I installed Bumblebee. No go.
Then I tried [rom] basic stock rom.
Neither of these will let my phone boot. It gets stuck at boot.
Nothing happens.
I can still boot into Xiona_CWMA. But no roms will work.
PLEASE HELP!!!!
Dude i m noob, and i m facing same problem,
I did root with super one click soc, and it is rooted and i am using root needed apps,
But when i m trying to clobk work recovery (i did flashing CWR from rom manager and aft that i select boot from cwr option from rom manager) it just factory reset i did this 3time all time just factory reset, then i again did but while rebooting i click home button so it gave me same option which came to above member said some e3............
And i try to select any option from it with menu button it was not applied, and no use so i removed battry and place again and start then device started dont know more what to do, help
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Ok, so I CAN load different recoveries.
They work, or at least seem to.
I can flash roms, but nothing happens (bootloop) or the phone comes on and works with a black screen.
I can call my number and can hear the call, but can't see anything.
Bullet if u found solution pls tell me too
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bulltproof said:
Ok, so I CAN load different recoveries.
They work, or at least seem to.
I can flash roms, but nothing happens (bootloop) or the phone comes on and works with a black screen.
I can call my number and can hear the call, but can't see anything.
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I believe that may be due to the newer display in your phone (I'm new to this device so I dont know much yet). From the little bit of information I've gathered, devices manufactured recently have a different display that requires a kernel that supports it. In the iho roms this is included, on others you'll need to flash a kernel right after the rom.
For the stock rom I can upload what I use if you need it. Its basically the one posted here just with the boot.img swapped with one from a nandroid backup I made before switching roms
I think you're spot on with that idea.
I loaded CM7 variant, and it worked.
My question is, how do I get another ROM on it if it has the newer screen?
I loaded different kernels that were supposed to fix it, but no go.

[Q] how to install rom

I have been trying to get to the screen where i can install from sd but it will not let me get to that point. I boot into recovery mode but the options it gives me is
reboot system now
reinstall packages
delete all user data
delete cache data
format internal sd-card
the letters are blue..................
can some help me out????? i want to install a different rom but i can't get to the install rom from sd option
Thanks
Download cwm rom manager from the manager, and install the recovery.
After that you can install the rom you desire!
i tried that and still same result. I have install other roms before but now it wont let me get to the install from sd screen
You should probably learn how to flash back to stock first (instructions are in many of the Guides). If you are flashing roms, eventually something will go wrong, and you will need to reflash to stock, or at least install a new kernel and recovery. Using Odin or Heimdall to install a kernel is part of the instructions for installing CM. Better to have Odin and the JFD file on hand when your phone bricks or boot-loops.
doozerpaul said:
I have been trying to get to the screen where i can install from sd but it will not let me get to that point. I boot into recovery mode but the options it gives me is
reboot system now
reinstall packages
delete all user data
delete cache data
format internal sd-card
the letters are blue..................
can some help me out????? i want to install a different rom but i can't get to the install rom from sd option
Thanks
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Select reinstall packsges....you may have to do it twice then you should be out of stock recovery and into clockwork recovery
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You can download CWR from my signature and put it on your internal SD. Put the update.zip on the internal and make sure it is only thing labeled .zip on there. Hit Reinstall Packages, let it cycle then hit it again. Recovery will go from blue to green and then you can install ROM from SD.
+1 on the reading and how to install ROMs. Plus while you are in CWR, go to Backup/Restore and do a nandriod backup.
Good luck.
i have all that and have gone back to stock and everything. still same results
doozerpaul said:
i have all that and have gone back to stock and everything. still same results
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What these guys have told you has worked time and time again for most everyone else. What I would recommend is that you get the AIO toolbox. Everything you need in a one-stop-shop.

bricked, again

I just did the biggest F-Up of my flashing life. While following QBKing77's Rooting & CWM with unlocked, at approx 3:50, during the flashing of the root SYSTEM.img file, rather than that file, I used the wrong file to flash used an IMG file that was meant for cwm, which is a completely different task.
So now I am trying to get into fast boot and try to do it with correct SYSTEM.IMG, then to find out I never got it downloaded, the link was deadand now I can not find where to DL it from. I must've not been paying attention and got ahead of myself.
Anyone know where I can a mirror of the file found here. Its the first link in the root section labelled "moto-fastboot flashable /system image".
Am I screwed? Does anybody have a copy of that system.img file laying around. I can not find any mirrors. That is the only way I can see this getting fixed bc I can still go into fastboot mode.
ckeck this ????
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/4137-pudding-photon-pudding-bootloader-unlock-updated-8302011/
Use at own risk. ???
Can u get into rsd mode and flash 154_5 sbf
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Important files
Thank shabbypenguin for those
If you can get into rsd mode and connected/recognized in rsd lite you should be able to flash one of those sbf files and return to stock.
I read the instructions carefully! It said to put the oven on 350 degrees for 10mins but for some out of this world reason I put it on broil and let it cook for 20mins :/
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LOL no kidding Custodian. I did get a laugh out of that.
Thanks CubanLuke & ShabbyPenguin. I did use RSDLite to flash the current sbf you directed me to, I can boot into the phone again. Thanks again.
Now as to how to proceed, I will have to unlock the bootloader again, np, but when I run into that very step where I broiled it, the rooting via speedboot.... would it be okay to root using AIO instead because I can not find the SYSTEM.IMG needed to follow along w/ the video using this method.
Can I just root a different method, then proceed on with CWM recovery, then flash rom from the video?
enzyme said:
LOL no kidding Custodian. I did get a laugh out of that.
Thanks CubanLuke & ShabbyPenguin. I did use RSDLite to flash the current sbf you directed me to, I can boot into the phone again. Thanks again.
Now as to how to proceed, I will have to unlock the bootloader again, np, but when I run into that very step where I broiled it, the rooting via speedboot.... would it be okay to root using AIO instead because I can not find the SYSTEM.IMG needed to follow along w/ the video using this method.
Can I just root a different method, then proceed on with CWM recovery, then flash rom from the video?
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- Unlock using derpunlock.sbf
- use fastboot to erase recovery and install CWM recovery
- boot into CWM
- Format system
- Wipe data/factory reset
- wipe cache/dalvik
- Reboot recovery
- Flash ROM
SOLVED!!! THANK YOU EVERYONE!
KTT16 said:
- Unlock using derpunlock.sbf
- use fastboot to erase recovery and install CWM recovery
- boot into CWM
- Format system
- Wipe data/factory reset
- wipe cache/dalvik
- Reboot recovery
- Flash ROM
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Thanks KTT. Okay, I'm back on track now. I am unlocked again, rooted as well. but I am not sure about 2 things. This will be my very first android rom flash and just coming from a big whoopsies, I just want to be sure.....
1) Format system: in cwm recovery, which option is that? I don't see "format system" in the main or advanced menu. Maybe its worded differently?
2) Flash ROM: I can only assume its either "Apply Update from SD" or Update from SD". Not sure which one though.
enzyme said:
SOLVED!!! THANK YOU EVERYONE!
Thanks KTT. Okay, I'm back on track now. I am unlocked again, rooted as well. but I am not sure about 2 things. This will be my very first android rom flash and just coming from a big whoopsies, I just want to be sure.....
1) Format system: in cwm recovery, which option is that? I don't see "format system" in the main or advanced menu. Maybe its worded differently?
2) Flash ROM: I can only assume its either "Apply Update from SD" or Update from SD". Not sure which one though.
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1) Format system is in the "mount" options. Although it's unneeded to flash a ROM. Personally I just wipe data/factory reset and then wipe cache and have zero issues. Others may tell you different though.
2) "Install .zip from SD Card" then select whichever .zip you're looking to install.
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Okay well I am in some trouble again. successfully flashed an alpha cm7.1, but it didn't have market and the one i installed did not work so decided to flash to cm7.2 via CWM. When it booted I didn't really see anything change, later realized that maybe I was suppose to wipe/format in cwm first(idk).
So I decided to flash 198_7, same one that I used to restore back to stock earlier. But I did not get back to stock. The process was 100%, it told me to manually turn on the device, which was in rsd mode. So I unplugged, pulled batt, reboot. The phone now starts up until the pulsing Moto logo then screen goes black, then it loops.
In the process I lost CWM & unlocked. So trying to flash a ROM via cwm is no longer an option. Any thoughts?
enzyme said:
Okay well I am in some trouble again. successfully flashed an alpha cm7.1, but it didn't have market and the one i installed did not work so decided to flash to cm7.2 via CWM. When it booted I didn't really see anything change, later realized that maybe I was suppose to wipe/format in cwm first(idk).
So I decided to flash 198_7, same one that I used to restore back to stock earlier. But I did not get back to stock. The process was 100%, it told me to manually turn on the device, which was in rsd mode. So I unplugged, pulled batt, reboot. The phone now starts up until the pulsing Moto logo then screen goes black, then it loops.
In the process I lost CWM & unlocked. So trying to flash a ROM via cwm is no longer an option. Any thoughts?
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Flashing the 198_7 sbf unroots and relocks, so you're back to square one.
enzyme said:
Okay well I am in some trouble again. successfully flashed an alpha cm7.1, but it didn't have market and the one i installed did not work so decided to flash to cm7.2 via CWM. When it booted I didn't really see anything change, later realized that maybe I was suppose to wipe/format in cwm first(idk).
So I decided to flash 198_7, same one that I used to restore back to stock earlier. But I did not get back to stock. The process was 100%, it told me to manually turn on the device, which was in rsd mode. So I unplugged, pulled batt, reboot. The phone now starts up until the pulsing Moto logo then screen goes black, then it loops.
In the process I lost CWM & unlocked. So trying to flash a ROM via cwm is no longer an option. Any thoughts?
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Reboot into stock recovery, when you get the recovery logo thing push both volume up and volume down at the same time to get the recovery options. Then do a factory reset and it should boot for you. After that, root and unlock again. And you didn't have the Market because you forgot to install Gapps...
enzyme said:
Okay well I am in some trouble again. successfully flashed an alpha cm7.1, but it didn't have market and the one i installed did not work so decided to flash to cm7.2 via CWM. When it booted I didn't really see anything change, later realized that maybe I was suppose to wipe/format in cwm first(idk).
So I decided to flash 198_7, same one that I used to restore back to stock earlier. But I did not get back to stock. The process was 100%, it told me to manually turn on the device, which was in rsd mode. So I unplugged, pulled batt, reboot. The phone now starts up until the pulsing Moto logo then screen goes black, then it loops.
In the process I lost CWM & unlocked. So trying to flash a ROM via cwm is no longer an option. Any thoughts?
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The reason cm7 didn't have the market is that you needed to flash gapps. Try doing a hard reset. http://www.hard-reset.com/motorola-photon-4g-hard-reset.html That should do it.
try the 154 sbf
enzyme said:
Okay well I am in some trouble again. successfully flashed an alpha cm7.1, but it didn't have market and the one i installed did not work so decided to flash to cm7.2 via CWM. When it booted I didn't really see anything change, later realized that maybe I was suppose to wipe/format in cwm first(idk).
So I decided to flash 198_7, same one that I used to restore back to stock earlier. But I did not get back to stock. The process was 100%, it told me to manually turn on the device, which was in rsd mode. So I unplugged, pulled batt, reboot. The phone now starts up until the pulsing Moto logo then screen goes black, then it loops.
In the process I lost CWM & unlocked. So trying to flash a ROM via cwm is no longer an option. Any thoughts?
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i had the same problem i think and was going thru boot loops but some one told me to start into recovery when you try you get that ? android screen from there hold down volume up and down at same time then wipe phone booted up fine after that.
It worked like a charm. Thanks. I'm still very new to android and hate to admit it but will be running into problems like these again. The best way to minimize it for me is, not only follow certain directions correctly to get out of these binds, but to understand them.
- So theres an image of the stock ROM stashed away on the phone regardless? And it can be accessed only via the stock recovery? Because after I succeeded in flashing cm7.1, I did a factory reset once from settings>privacy and that restored me to a fresh CM7.1. The factory reset from settings>privacy and in CWM is the same, but both different from the factory reset via STOCK RECOVERY?
- Also what would be the correct method to go from one custom ROM to another? Would it be this? :
(in CWM)
- Format system
- Wipe data/factory reset
- wipe cache/dalvik
- Reboot recovery
- Flash ROM
Or can I just jump to install from zip ?
- Also regarding SD Storage (internal), only holds storage files? So on any fresh ROM there shouldn't be anything in that partition relating to that new ROM yet right? So I can delete things without worry?
You should not have to reboot into recovery, once your wipes are complete, normally you can just flash your ROM of choice in the same recovery session.
Before I flashed anything I would make a backup with CWM so you don't have to keep rooting and unlocking. You can just restore your backup.
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After flashing 198 7 sbf, all u need to do is flash derpunlock not go through oem unlocking, then reflash recovery.
Simple generic process for going between roms (assuming already unlocked + cwm recovery flashed; process may be different for some roms, always make sure to read directions, but this is the general concept)
1. Download rom (and gapps if necessary) and put on your sdcard
2. Boot into recovery and make a nandroid backup
3. You made a nandroid backup right?
4. Secure your nandroid backup (move it to your pc or something).
5. You know where your nandroid backup is right?
6. Wipe data/factory reset.
7. Install zip from sd (flash), choose the rom.
8. Reboot system.
At this point your rom should be all set. If for some reason you don't like it, simply boot into recovery and restore your nandroid backup. You can even make nandroid backups of various roms if you want to swap between them for whatever reason.

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