Getting tired of having to use a dedicated mp3 player. The evo 4g didn't have the best sound quality. Anyone know what the 3d has? I was looking into the sg2 but reports show the sq was better on the galaxy 1.
kessomatt said:
Getting tired of having to use a dedicated mp3 player. The evo 4g didn't have the best sound quality. Anyone know what the 3d has? I was looking into the sg2 but reports show the sq was better on the galaxy 1.
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Rather than the sound chip, try using a different player. Poweramp is one of the best, and supports full equalizer support, real bass/treble boost, and all sorts of buffer tweaks for audio "problems." In today's devices, the hardware is hardly the issue. It's how the manufacturer decided to hard-code the default parameters (unless you're actually hearing pops/hiss that shouldn't be there). Many complaints about "flat" sound, "muffled" bass, "tinny" highs, "grating" pitch, etc is due to two things above all: headset and enhancements. The headset = your earbuds, and enhancements = HW SRS/Dolby/Bass+/PLAYER settings used.
Of course if you're using HE-AAC and Froyo, that explains everything, since Froyo destroyed the HE component.
Mega bump.
Does anyone actually know the answer? What sound chip does it have?
curiousGeorge said:
Rather than the sound chip, try using a different player. Poweramp is one of the best, and supports full equalizer support, real bass/treble boost, and all sorts of buffer tweaks for audio "problems." In today's devices, the hardware is hardly the issue. It's how the manufacturer decided to hard-code the default parameters (unless you're actually hearing pops/hiss that shouldn't be there). Many complaints about "flat" sound, "muffled" bass, "tinny" highs, "grating" pitch, etc is due to two things above all: headset and enhancements. The headset = your earbuds, and enhancements = HW SRS/Dolby/Bass+/PLAYER settings used.
Of course if you're using HE-AAC and Froyo, that explains everything, since Froyo destroyed the HE component.
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the issue with quality is not the hardware, but the drivers, rom, and configuration. Chad knows all about the sound chipset in the 3d, and his kernel make audio quality better than the stock rezound. the rezound is HTC's flagship phone, that HTC claims has the best audio. Chad made a custom kernel for that phone as well, and the feedback from XDA users in his thread pretty much said the audio quality on the rezound with the stock kernel sucks compared to how it sounds with Chad's kernel.
BTW - the rezound and 3d share the same hardware as far as cpu, gpu, and audio chipsets.
and to add: with Chads kernels, apps such as dsp manager, poweramp, etc are not needed. the audio quality will seriously blow your mind if you flash a decent rom with his kernel.
i use Chads kernel with PowerAmp.
me gusta
NewZJ said:
i use Chads kernel with PowerAmp.
me gusta
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Tested it.tonight I agree me qusta but.no matter.what its.awesome
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Eternity-3D said:
the issue with quality is not the hardware, but the drivers, rom, and configuration. Chad knows all about the sound chipset in the 3d, and his kernel make audio quality better than the stock rezound. the rezound is HTC's flagship phone, that HTC claims has the best audio. Chad made a custom kernel for that phone as well, and the feedback from XDA users in his thread pretty much said the audio quality on the rezound with the stock kernel sucks compared to how it sounds with Chad's kernel.
BTW - the rezound and 3d share the same hardware as far as cpu, gpu, and audio chipsets.
and to add: with Chads kernels, apps such as dsp manager, poweramp, etc are not needed. the audio quality will seriously blow your mind if you flash a decent rom with his kernel.
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I am pretty sure the rezound is not htcs flagship phone. The One X/XL is their flagship phone.
So power amp is really that good. I usually use a blue tooth head phones or a blue tooth to fm transmitter in my car. Does power amp work well with blue tooth?
With respect> Can someone actually answer the question rather than sidestepping it because you don't know?
The O2X for example has a very decent Wolfson WM8994 sound chip. If you guys don't appreciate the difference hardware quality makes to sound quality, then you need your heads checking.
As my wife would say "whatever".
Note: It's early in the morning and I'm tired, grumpy and going to bed.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-3d/110651-beats-audio-evo-3d-will-happen-4.html
Someone says ita a wolf
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Evo_3D#section_2
Here's the wiki says the same
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Hey guys I've read some posts, reviews and watched some video samples of the Amaze and from what I can tell..it's true, the audio recording on this phone is horrible.
I wanted to ask if anyone from this forum could compare it to the MT4G?
That's the phone I am currently using now and want to know how does it measure up to the MT4G's audio recording when shooting video.
I ask because I record a lot of videos with my MT4G and it's important that the audio quality on the Amaze isn't less than my phone.
1080p would be awesome to have (mine has 720p) but I don't want to sacrifice audio quality.
So with that being said, could anyone tell me from personal experience whether it's worse or better when compared to MT4G?
Thanks a lot.
I would ask if you are so concerned for professional reasons and then I realized a pro would use a real camera...
Not trying to be a prick or anything. Just curious.
What is with the concern of how well the audio is recorded off your phones camera?
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I would ask if you are so concerned for professional reasons and then I realized a pro would use a real camera...
Not trying to be a prick or anything. Just curious.
What is with the concern of how well the audio is recorded off your phones camera?
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Because I don't own a point and shoot camera so I rely on my phone to do all the recording.
I have two kids, 5 and 4, and I record them all day, everyday.
So yeah I just don't want to sacrifice the audio quality for better video quality.
Cause if you have kids that young you should know the audio is the most important part!! They say some of the craziest things. Lol.
Anyway, thanks for asking though. I don't mind explaining. Do you have any thoughts here?
nguyendqh said:
Because I don't own a point and shoot camera so I rely on my phone to do all the recording.
I have two kids, 5 and 4, and I record them all day, everyday.
So yeah I just don't want to sacrifice the audio quality for better video quality.
Cause if you have kids that young you should know the audio is the most important part!! They say some of the craziest things. Lol.
Anyway, thanks for asking though. I don't mind explaining. Do you have any thoughts here?
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If you want good audio quality on a phone camcorder, you're not going to have any luck with HTC, put simply. The Amaze is a fantastic phone and video quality is among the best out there, but audio has never been HTCs strong point. If you're looking for great audio, I'd suggest looking into a Motorola device, though T-Mobile really doesnt support Moto anymore it seems. If you do go with Motorola, just know that video quality will not be the best on most, at least from what I've seen. The Razr looks solid on both fronts. Then there's the iPhone 4S, which undoubtedly has the best of both worlds. Either way, I'll stick with the Amaze. I love it in every way.
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nguyendqh said:
Because I don't own a point and shoot camera so I rely on my phone to do all the recording.
I have two kids, 5 and 4, and I record them all day, everyday.
So yeah I just don't want to sacrifice the audio quality for better video quality.
Cause if you have kids that young you should know the audio is the most important part!! They say some of the craziest things. Lol.
Anyway, thanks for asking though. I don't mind explaining. Do you have any thoughts here?
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AWESOME!!!! Way better answer than anything I could think of. I definitely see where you are coming from. Audio would be very important.
Not that I have taken a lot of video with mine yet but I have to say it does not sound any better/worse than my iPhone's ever did. Video is a ****load better though
Turboboxer said:
AWESOME!!!! Way better answer than anything I could think of. I definitely see where you are coming from. Audio would be very important.
Not that I have taken a lot of video with mine yet but I have to say it does not sound any better/worse than my iPhone's ever did. Video is a ****load better though
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So it's not like a horrible difference yeah? Well that's good.
I mean my biggest thing was whether it'll be worse than my current phone.
myTouch 4G.
That's really what I'm trying to get at.
I don't have a problem with my phone's current audio recording.
I just don't want to be downgrading. =P
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If you want good audio quality on a phone camcorder, you're not going to have any luck with HTC, put simply. The Amaze is a fantastic phone and video quality is among the best out there, but audio has never been HTCs strong point. If you're looking for great audio, I'd suggest looking into a Motorola device, though T-Mobile really doesnt support Moto anymore it seems. If you do go with Motorola, just know that video quality will not be the best on most, at least from what I've seen. The Razr looks solid on both fronts. Then there's the iPhone 4S, which undoubtedly has the best of both worlds. Either way, I'll stick with the Amaze. I love it in every way.
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I can understand what you're saying, but my thing was just whether it's an audio downgrade from my current phone, the HTC myTouch 4G.
That's all. But thank you for the suggestions and yeah I'm not a big fan of Moto phones either.
Thank you.
What about Music quality?
How is the audio quality for music and video? I use my phone as mp3 player.
saulcho009 said:
How is the audio quality for music and video? I use my phone as mp3 player.
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The audio quality is very good. But not stellar. Much depends on the source. If you use badly compressed mp3 files and cheap earbuds don't expect much. The phone can play .flac files if you install a 3rd party player like PowerAMP. That combined with a good set of headphones (I'm using Klipsch, which are also very good but not stellar) then the audio quality is more than adequate.
marleyfan61 said:
The audio quality is very good. But not stellar. Much depends on the source. If you use badly compressed mp3 files and cheap earbuds don't expect much. The phone can play .flac files if you install a 3rd party player like PowerAMP. That combined with a good set of headphones (I'm using Klipsch, which are also very good but not stellar) then the audio quality is more than adequate.
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I'm not that much of an audiophile but I do have good earbuds so I guess I should be set. Thanks
Why don't you take you're kids to a t-mobile and take some test videos too compare? Seems Luke that would be the easiest thing for you to do and you would not have to rely on any the opinion of someone else.
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As far as recording, the audio is just as good as my vibrant...take that as you may--I am not a huge video guy. Plus, once you record, you can edit the audio on your pc.
PowerAmp is the single, most important app for me...in the car, at work, everywhere, the output is amazing.
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Why don't you take you're kids to a t-mobile and take some test videos too compare? Seems Luke that would be the easiest thing for you to do and you would not have to rely on any the opinion of someone else.
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Sounds like a good idea there. Lol. I will probably do just that. Thanks.
Beats Audio
Do you know if Beats Audio will be in the Amaze anytime soon or in the dev posts?
audio seem ok to me...I had the SGS2 which only provides MONO audio, and audio quality seemed good . This phone provides mono and Stereo so I played around with it and when I put it on mono audio the sound quality is much better, but then again you get mono....So It might have something to do with the extra microphones trying to pick up extra sound and cutting out the background noise....Personally I feel the sound on the Amaze is much more clear with high treble, than the SGS2, is the only phone I can compare it to. sound on SGS2 was muffled a little. also the speakerphone on the back and front of the HTC device sound much less muffled than My SGS2, I have no experience with motrola or any other brank of phone.
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Do you know if Beats Audio will be in the Amaze anytime soon or in the dev posts?
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We already got a couple of roms that have Beats Audio Hack. Check them out
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We already got a couple of roms that have Beats Audio Hack. Check them out
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Ok Thanks...
nguyendqh said:
Sounds like a good idea there. Lol. I will probably do just that. Thanks.
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I installed a app from the marketplace called Volume+, it was less than 2 dollars. But you can go to the dev website and download it for free. It boost up the volume from the audio playing from the loudspeaker and headset. I don't know if it will boost the recorded incoming audio. To me I had the MT4G rooted with a sense 3.0 Rom and I already love this amaze. As long as your hand doesn't block the microphones on the phone it is fine. Plus for 15 dollars you can buy the adapter to hook up to your tv and watch the glorious 1080p via HDMI. Also my Amaze is all stock. Plus the reception and call quality is very good.
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keepzero said:
I installed a app from the marketplace called Volume+, it was less than 2 dollars. But you can go to the dev website and download it for free. It boost up the volume from the audio playing from the loudspeaker and headset. I don't know if it will boost the recorded incoming audio. To me I had the MT4G rooted with a sense 3.0 Rom and I already love this amaze. As long as your hand doesn't block the microphones on the phone it is fine. Plus for 15 dollars you can buy the adapter to hook up to your tv and watch the glorious 1080p via HDMI. Also my Amaze is all stock. Plus the reception and call quality is very good.
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This may seem odd but I found that, to me at least, it sounds better with the "stereo recording" off. That's how my MT4G videos sound.
Anyway, volume is not the problem here. It's sound quality.
I get the best recording with an app called rec forge, mono, wav and 22khz sample rate. The stereo recording does not improve the fidelity of the sound. I have yet to try an external Mic.
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does the Beats technologie by Dr. Dre working on ics touchpad and is there any way to activate and desactivate it
On CM, go to the DSPManager app and enable/disable Bass Boost.
Scotty_Two said:
On CM, go to the DSPManager app and enable/disable Bass Boost.
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best reply to these stupid things ever
panyan said:
best reply to these stupid things ever
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looooooool
but the sound in webos is much better than android
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Lets just please not get into discussion of headphones like in every phone thread I have read regarding this beats audio thing. I swear if I see another person claim to be an audiophile using skullcandy headphones or earbuds claiming that beats "iz da ****" I am gonna stab myself in the eye.
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but the sound in webos is much better than android
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Sugar pills also make you stronger.
Technically the beats audio processing is supported by the chipset. Beats actually leverages SRS audio processing, which quite frankly anyone that states beats/SRS is just a bass boost or a volume booster doesn't truly understand what is going on.
There are posts around various forums with people trying to get cm to tap into the dsp/chip beats/SRS processing. Depending on what firmware version is on the phone chipset, is what people will be tapping into.
Someone in the rezound forum had figured out how to tap into it via the kernel but has since taken it down due to a legal issue. SRS is IP technology.
You can go learn a little by reading up on the SRS website, www.srslabs.com which tries to explain the Sound Retrieval System which is there core technology.
Dolby, Waves, and SRS all work in this realm of psychoacoustics (sp?)
For those who don't get it you can demo the pc version or the mac version of this processing and play with the raw settings yourself. There is a lot more going on than just bass boost and increased volume.. I've been playing with their technology for
Roughly 15 years in various flavors.
Beats is more obviously leveraging the bass features and less obviously on the surround processing. If you check out the Samsung galaxy phones they are also leveraging SRS. The only failure that I see in both HTC and Samsung's implementation is limiting this technology to a simple on/off function.
Sent from my android touchpad.
Chad is one dev who apparently is rocking things out.
http://forums.infectedrom.com/showthread.php/823-KERNEL-AnthraX-v2-AOSP-SENSE-ICS-now-kangable
At some point he states that he will work on a kernel for the TP. Im willing to put some cash down on this endeavor.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1429699
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Izeltokatl said:
Chad is one dev who apparently is rocking things out.
http://forums.infectedrom.com/showthread.php/823-KERNEL-AnthraX-v2-AOSP-SENSE-ICS-now-kangable
At some point he states that he will work on a kernel for the TP. Im willing to put some cash down on this endeavor.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1429699
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I'd put ma money on pair new Dr Dre mxr headset
Just found this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525226
No clue if it works on the tp. Will try it later.
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Donmotobike said:
I'd put ma money on pair new Dr Dre mxr headset
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i already own some high end shure headphones, they are far superior in audio quality than beats headphones, no disrespect of course.
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I'm using Sensation XL's beat headphone for my Touchpad.
That's great
Just to say, in webOS, turning beats off did absolutely nothing. So my guess is that whatever it does is probably happening in android too. But you could try the beats flashable zip and see if it makes a difference
langthang said:
I'm using Sensation XL's beat headphone for my Touchpad.
That's great
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Yeah right, I love Touchpad too. The beat speakers are very good
plug in your beast headphone and restart to cm9
its work with me this way
I would love to see the audio issues fixed in android first, though I enjoy the TP just as it is and am grateful!
Beats could be cool, or Voodoo:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256175&page=5
I just read a thread that complains about the poor audio quality. I want to say the audio quality of EVO 3D is only acceptable. I compared EVO with my ipod touch. It is obvious that the music on ipod touch is more clear than EVO. So is that a way that I can improve the audio quality of my EVO 3D? I dont want to put two devices into my pocket.
Here is what I think
1) install another music player like winmap AWP Meridian.....
I have tried them all and none of them can provide better quality than stock music player. Winmap sucks. When I use winmap I hear a lot of noises that I have ever heard before. Does anyone has the same experience?
2) install custom rom&custom kernel
I find out Chad's kernels can provide great sound quality, but it will trade your bluetooth camera.....etc. Did anyone try this?
3) another way that I still not find out
I am looking forward your reply or solution.
Thanks guys
who says Chads kernels cause issues?
have you tried PowerAmp?
NewZJ said:
who says Chads kernels cause issues?
have you tried PowerAmp?
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From a thread........did you try this rom? I did try power amp but nothing changed.
Roberrt110 said:
Phones will never have acceptable sound quality for me, maybe iPhones but I don't like them. If u want good sound buy a small player maybe from cowon or something like that, it's worth it cause of battery and storage. it also depends on parameters of your headphones, but generally phones and music don't come good together. Look at cowon e2 which is small and powerful, or some iPods. if u want something more from your Evo I'm afraid u have to change some parts inside, and develop your own rom with drivers I'd enjoy.
Please correct my English mistakes, I'll be grateful
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I do not like iPhone. It is girl's favorite toy, not for a man. As what I said in my thread, I don't want to carry two devices. You know jeans only have 2 pockets. One is for wallet and another one is for your phone. Maybe there is a way to improve audio quality. I hope......
Roberrt110 said:
That's why I don't wear jeans mate xd. Audiophiles aren't welcome in the smartphone world. And cowon e2 you can pin to your keys, it's designed for it. and back to the evo i read in mwakious rom's changelog he makes some sound improvements. At least u can just install a ROM with beats and try it out with some beats headphones if u like, maybe you will find the sound good.
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Thanks for advice. I just googled cowon e2.Wow its apperal looks fuuny and it is enough small to put it into my pocket. I will think about it. BTW, English is not my mother language. So I cant be your teacher.Mabye there are some mistake in your sentence but I can understand what you said. Just forget about it.
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Roberrt110 said:
That's why I don't wear jeans mate xd. Audiophiles aren't welcome in the smartphone world. And cowon e2 you can pin to your keys, it's designed for it. and back to the evo i read in mwakious rom's changelog he makes some sound improvements. At least u can just install a ROM with beats and try it out with some beats headphones if u like, maybe you will find the sound good.
Please correct my English mistakes, I'll be grateful
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The beats headphones have poor audio quality. Especially if you look at the price tag they are acceptable at best.
The beats smartphone "software" is nothing but an equalizer. I'm not saying it does not help but it's neither rocket science nor magic.
The best thing to do might be buying a small mp3 Player e..g. Sansa clip+
What Kind of headphones do you use?
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Pommes_Schranke said:
The beats headphones have poor audio quality. Especially if you look at the price tag they are acceptable at best.
The beats smartphone "software" is nothing but an equalizer. I'm not saying it does not help but it's neither rocket science nor magic.
The best thing to do might be buying a small mp3 Player e..g. Sansa clip+
What Kind of headphones do you use?
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I am now using AKG K420. I am satisfied with it. I like the looks of beats headphone,but its audio quality is average.
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Try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1147436
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laie1472 said:
Try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1147436
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what this？
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Well, assuming you are on a gingerbread rom, flashing chads latest kernel will greatly improve sound quality and volume. I think beats is a gimmick but everything chad has done really makes a huge difference.
In regards to other players, I've always thought ipods had horrible sound quality. Always seemed very flat. My old cowon iaudio mp3 player had the best sound quality I've ever heard. I've yet to come across something that produced the same level of quality.
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After a little research, it turns out the Evo 3D actually has one of the best sound chips around. It may not be being utilised properly, but I think one of Chad's kernel's did make use of it. The O2X does exactly the same thing... has a cracking sound chip, and then completely fails to make use of it.
ncfastls1 said:
Well, assuming you are on a gingerbread rom, flashing chads latest kernel will greatly improve sound quality and volume. I think beats is a gimmick but everything chad has done really makes a huge difference.
In regards to other players, I've always thought ipods had horrible sound quality. Always seemed very flat. My old cowon iaudio mp3 player had the best sound quality I've ever heard. I've yet to come across something that produced the same level of quality.
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thanks for advice. I would like to confirm one thing is if chad rom dont support ICS Rom.
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ncfastls1 said:
Well, assuming you are on a gingerbread rom, flashing chads latest kernel will greatly improve sound quality and volume. I think beats is a gimmick but everything chad has done really makes a huge difference.
In regards to other players, I've always thought ipods had horrible sound quality. Always seemed very flat. My old cowon iaudio mp3 player had the best sound quality I've ever heard. I've yet to come across something that produced the same level of quality.
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btw why do you think ipod offers poor audio quality？ Compared with other mp3 player, ipod does offer less audio augmentation option like BBE or fullsound. But it doesnt mean original audio effect is poor. Sometimes these audio effect may reduce the music quality just like beats audio of htcphone. Some guys have already posted threads to complain about it. I like ipod not only for its looks but also it can offer us with clearly original audio quality. PS. I am not an apple fan.......
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Alexsandra said:
btw why do you think ipod offers poor audio quality？ Compared with other mp3 player, ipod does offer less audio augmentation option like BBE or fullsound. But it doesnt mean original audio effect is poor. Sometimes these audio effect may reduce the music quality just like beats audio of htcphone. Some guys have already posted threads to complain about it. I like ipod not only for its looks but also it can offer us with clearly original audio quality. PS. I am not an apple fan.......
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Chase kernels do improve sound quality, and he does have ics kernels, just head over to infected Rom and grab the latest version for your Rom.
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And install dsp 1.0 for gb and 2.0 for ics
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Scougar said:
After a little research, it turns out the Evo 3D actually has one of the best sound chips around. It may not be being utilised properly, but I think one of Chad's kernel's did make use of it. The O2X does exactly the same thing... has a cracking sound chip, and then completely fails to make use of it.
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Hey,
Can you forward me this research? I'm interested to learn more about why our Evos have a constant hissing noise.
Scougar said:
After a little research, it turns out the Evo 3D actually has one of the best sound chips around. It may not be being utilised properly, but I think one of Chad's kernel's did make use of it. The O2X does exactly the same thing... has a cracking sound chip, and then completely fails to make use of it.
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I am very curiois about your research. Did you flash chad kernel？
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Scougar said:
After a little research, it turns out the Evo 3D actually has one of the best sound chips around. It may not be being utilised properly, but I think one of Chad's kernel's did make use of it. The O2X does exactly the same thing... has a cracking sound chip, and then completely fails to make use of it.
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Yeah, the chip on the EVO 3D is pretty good even if it's not the best. I recently upgraded my PC and the motherboard on board audio sounds weird to me over my last sound card. At this point I'd rather stream music to my phone to listen there via headphones. The sound does have a hissing to it but I thought that it was just interference from the other components.
Someguy316 said:
Yeah, the chip on the EVO 3D is pretty good even if it's not the best. I recently upgraded my PC and the motherboard on board audio sounds weird to me over my last sound card. At this point I'd rather stream music to my phone to listen there via headphones. The sound does have a hissing to it but I thought that it was just interference from the other components.
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which kernel do you use now? and Rom?
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which kernel do you use now? and Rom?
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Forgot to clarify, I'm just using tbe stock ROM and firmware for Sprint; nothing special. Play back music through HTC's media player with any enhancements off. That's why I said it's pretty good.
I do not know if any of you know how good the Zune HD's sound quality is, but I was wondering if it is possible to get the same kind of quality on our 3D. I know the quality depends on the DAC and circuity from what Ive read, but our phone's hardware is more recent and therefore I assume it has to have better parts than the Zune's. Would it be possible to create an app or a background service that can give the same quality?
Unfortunately htc probably didn't spend the money on the audio hardware. Poweramp, volune+, dsp manager, and beats mods improve sound (depending who you ask). There are other apps but nothing that revolutionary.
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Juan685 said:
I do not know if any of you know how good the Zune HD's sound quality is, but I was wondering if it is possible to get the same kind of quality on our 3D. I know the quality depends on the DAC and circuity from what Ive read, but our phone's hardware is more recent and therefore I assume it has to have better parts than the Zune's. Would it be possible to create an app or a background service that can give the same quality?
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You have two choices to get the best sound possible on your 3D:
1. Buy Poweramp
2. Install "Android Revolution HD" ROM and flash Beats on it.
As someone who owns a Zune HD, I understand exactly what you are talking about. It's audio quality is simply unmatched. I still carry mine around, it's small enough that it fits in that little "sub-pocket" that most jeans tend to have on the right pocket.
gk1984 said:
Unfortunately htc probably didn't spend the money on the audio hardware. Poweramp, volune+, dsp manager, and beats mods improve sound (depending who you ask). There are other apps but nothing that revolutionary.
Couldn't we create something to imitate the same sound as that of the Zune, if Volume + can emulate Beats audio why couldn't we create something similar. Plus I think if can get Chad's kernel with the improved sound drivers I am sure it can surpass that quality and make it audiophile acceptable.
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acevo3d said:
You have two choices to get the best sound possible on your 3D:
1. Buy Poweramp
2. Install "Android Revolution HD" ROM and flash Beats on it.
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I think Ive done that in the past, I had Poweramp with beats enabled and Chad's kernel on top of that with the better drivers. It sounded great, even the htc's music app sounded better than with just stock Beats. However, Im still fiending for that Zune quality! When I had my Zune HD music was great and I could listen to it all day without any discomfort, even in loud places with cheap headphones. With Beats its cool too, but sometimes its better when you are in a quiet place.
LiquidSolstice said:
As someone who owns a Zune HD, I understand exactly what you are talking about. It's audio quality is simply unmatched. I still carry mine around, it's small enough that it fits in that little "sub-pocket" that most jeans tend to have on the right pocket.
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Yeah, I feel you. I have the Ubermusic app and it sounds somewhat better than any other music app but I cant remember if its quality is the same as a real zune hd.
This is one reason why I can't use this as my main phone. And HTC isn't the only manufacturer whose sound quality is like this. I really hope this changes
I think Bose should make HTC speakers and drivers
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sailio said:
I think Bose should make HTC speakers and drivers.
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So we could have an over-priced phone?
Let JBL or Shure handle it.
"Ain't got no highs, ain't got no lows...must be a pair of Bose."
jsp20 said:
This is one reason why I can't use this as my main phone. And HTC isn't the only manufacturer whose sound quality is like this. I really hope this changes
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I'm kind of an idiot when it comes to sound quality, so just using a decent pair of earphones\earbuds doesn't give an htc phone good quality?
ZPlayer
I have never tried a zune, but I know that the App ZPLAYER looks exactly like zunes' UI and has a pretty good equalizer. I actually use this player more than any other, even though I got beats installed.
It's not free, but you shall try it. I can send the API or you'd know how to get it
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I have never tried a zune, but I know that the App ZPLAYER looks exactly like zunes' UI and has a pretty good equalizer. I actually use this player more than any other, even though I got beats installed.
It's not free, but you shall try it. I can send the API or you'd know how to get it
REALLY MY FAVOURITE
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It's not about the look of the app. It's the sound quality. The hardware inside the Zune HD gave it a truly wonderful sound (way better than all the iPods and the other MP3 players of the time) and the OP is looking for a way to fix that.
I still think we can fix this some way or another. I am not a developer but I am willing to learn to develop a service or app or maybe even just port the way the zune hd handles audio. Or someone else can do it who has the experience. I am thinking we could probably hack and tweak our audio chips just like we can overclock our cpus, couldn't we overclock it the same way? Moreover, I found out that the 2009 Ipod touch used a similar chip as the zune hd's. Yet, audio sounded different because maybe there is a software aspect that helps also. Also, the zune had a tegra processor plus a dedicated audio core, although I do not know if this is the same as Wolfson's.
Wikipedia has some specs if this can help:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zunehd
Here is the audio chip the zune used according to Engadget:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/15/microsofts-zune-hd-already-cracked-open-and-photographed/2
http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/power_management/WM8352/
and this website has more information if anybody is interested:
http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Audio-DAC-chips-does-anyone-care-anymore
Couldn't we also replace our audio chips with this one:
http://www.cirrus.com/en/products/cs4970xx_family.html
Does anybody know if the decoder, or whatever makes music sound good on the Zune HD, can be ported to our phones? Or be used to create a service like Beats or dsp manager to run in the background?
woody296 said:
I'm kind of an idiot when it comes to sound quality, so just using a decent pair of earphones\earbuds doesn't give an htc phone good quality?
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Yes and no. From what I understand, the quality starts at the sound file. If the sound or song is bad it will sound bad on cheap headphones and maybe even in expensive headphones, too. The next step would be probably the chosen media player, which will send the audio signals it gets from reading the sound file to the Digital to Analog Converter (DAC) to be "decoded" and played out through the jack by the headphones.
I do not know if this is 100 percent correct, but this is the way it seems. Correct me if I am wrong.
LVTHN said:
I have never tried a zune, but I know that the App ZPLAYER looks exactly like zunes' UI and has a pretty good equalizer. I actually use this player more than any other, even though I got beats installed.
It's not free, but you shall try it. I can send the API or you'd know how to get it
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I already tried it, but it sounds more like google's stock music app, at least to me.
greeeeetttt
Juan685 said:
I do not know if any of you know how good the Zune HD's sound quality is, but I was wondering if it is possible to get the same kind of quality on our 3D. I know the quality depends on the DAC and circuity from what Ive read, but our phone's hardware is more recent and therefore I assume it has to have better parts than the Zune's. Would it be possible to create an app or a background service that can give the same quality?
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I have posted the same thread to seek a way to enhance the audio quality. Some guys gave me some advice that flash the chad`s kernel. Yes, the man who has been banned from XDA. I dont know the exactly the reason why his kernel will improve the audio quality but some guys who flashed his kernel did approved it worked. I still not tried it because I dont know the way to root & s-off my EVO 3D. You can find his kernel through infected rom .com(please google) If you try it, please post your experience. Thanks
LiquidSolstice said:
It's not about the look of the app. It's the sound quality. The hardware inside the Zune HD gave it a truly wonderful sound (way better than all the iPods and the other MP3 players of the time) and the OP is looking for a way to fix that.
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I see, I'm sorry then.
I'll go and give the Zune HD a listen asap!
Anywaay, Zplayer is a good app
Zune HD is the best media player I have had, and still rattling my civic trunk.
Alexsandra said:
I have posted the same thread to seek a way to enhance the audio quality. Some guys gave me some advice that flash the chad`s kernel. Yes, the man who has been banned from XDA. I dont know the exactly the reason why his kernel will improve the audio quality but some guys who flashed his kernel did approved it worked. I still not tried it because I dont know the way to root & s-off my EVO 3D. You can find his kernel through infected rom .com(please google) If you try it, please post your experience. Thanks
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My bad. I must had forgotten to reply back. The sound quality was good on his kernel, but it is still not like the Zune HD's.
have you tried v4a? ---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191223
Read all the top 5-6 posts from the OP for instructions and understand them carefully before installing.
There are many services and equalizers that offer very different audio qualities....Never listened to a zune but there are many settings and presets that might help.
Here is list of some of the IR samples that can be used with V4A ---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2216193
Which do you find better,
when you use High end Headphones (like senheiser hd25- II)
milestone97 said:
Which do you find better,
when you use High end Headphones (like senheiser hd25- II)
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The E3D With SRS Enhancement On Is Defi. The Better One.
The iPhone.
AFAIK, from what my iPod Touch 4 sounds like in comparison.
Newer HTCs are closer in quality, the iPhone has a higher volume rate (kinda hurts after a certain point) though.
They may be better but the 3D isn't by any means "poor".
Sent from my EVO LTE
papasmurf858 said:
The Anthrax kernel with any decent rom has way better sound quality than my ipod touch, louder and cleaner.. not just the base, bit the mids and highs as well.
JMO
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Is The Anthrax Kernel Same As Dedova?
Evo 3d.
Beats with a bit of tweaking can do some beautiful things
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papasmurf858 said:
dedova? ... dodava - I dont think so
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Hmm I Thought They Were Becouse When I Go To Anthrax's Download Page This Is The Only One That Pops Up But Let Me Stop Talking About Chad Before LiquidSolstice Hops In Lol
For me , with good headphones the srs sound is way better then beats and blows away my iPod .just my opinion though. The music player sp is a bit nicer on the iPod though, seems like the evo music player always mixes up the cd's . Most likely because of the Id tags
I though Anthrax kernels were taken down until further notice?
Shame as they properly implement the Beats offloading to the Audio Processor in the kernel so dramatically improve things Beats-wise.
I actually switched back from the S2 to the Evo 3D, partially because sound quality was much better. I'm using some Etymotic HF2 with custom ear moulds so am a bit fussy, and this definitely sounds better.