Hey guys I've read some posts, reviews and watched some video samples of the Amaze and from what I can tell..it's true, the audio recording on this phone is horrible.
I wanted to ask if anyone from this forum could compare it to the MT4G?
That's the phone I am currently using now and want to know how does it measure up to the MT4G's audio recording when shooting video.
I ask because I record a lot of videos with my MT4G and it's important that the audio quality on the Amaze isn't less than my phone.
1080p would be awesome to have (mine has 720p) but I don't want to sacrifice audio quality.
So with that being said, could anyone tell me from personal experience whether it's worse or better when compared to MT4G?
Thanks a lot.
I would ask if you are so concerned for professional reasons and then I realized a pro would use a real camera...
Not trying to be a prick or anything. Just curious.
What is with the concern of how well the audio is recorded off your phones camera?
Turboboxer said:
I would ask if you are so concerned for professional reasons and then I realized a pro would use a real camera...
Not trying to be a prick or anything. Just curious.
What is with the concern of how well the audio is recorded off your phones camera?
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Because I don't own a point and shoot camera so I rely on my phone to do all the recording.
I have two kids, 5 and 4, and I record them all day, everyday.
So yeah I just don't want to sacrifice the audio quality for better video quality.
Cause if you have kids that young you should know the audio is the most important part!! They say some of the craziest things. Lol.
Anyway, thanks for asking though. I don't mind explaining. Do you have any thoughts here?
nguyendqh said:
Because I don't own a point and shoot camera so I rely on my phone to do all the recording.
I have two kids, 5 and 4, and I record them all day, everyday.
So yeah I just don't want to sacrifice the audio quality for better video quality.
Cause if you have kids that young you should know the audio is the most important part!! They say some of the craziest things. Lol.
Anyway, thanks for asking though. I don't mind explaining. Do you have any thoughts here?
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If you want good audio quality on a phone camcorder, you're not going to have any luck with HTC, put simply. The Amaze is a fantastic phone and video quality is among the best out there, but audio has never been HTCs strong point. If you're looking for great audio, I'd suggest looking into a Motorola device, though T-Mobile really doesnt support Moto anymore it seems. If you do go with Motorola, just know that video quality will not be the best on most, at least from what I've seen. The Razr looks solid on both fronts. Then there's the iPhone 4S, which undoubtedly has the best of both worlds. Either way, I'll stick with the Amaze. I love it in every way.
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nguyendqh said:
Because I don't own a point and shoot camera so I rely on my phone to do all the recording.
I have two kids, 5 and 4, and I record them all day, everyday.
So yeah I just don't want to sacrifice the audio quality for better video quality.
Cause if you have kids that young you should know the audio is the most important part!! They say some of the craziest things. Lol.
Anyway, thanks for asking though. I don't mind explaining. Do you have any thoughts here?
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AWESOME!!!! Way better answer than anything I could think of. I definitely see where you are coming from. Audio would be very important.
Not that I have taken a lot of video with mine yet but I have to say it does not sound any better/worse than my iPhone's ever did. Video is a ****load better though
Turboboxer said:
AWESOME!!!! Way better answer than anything I could think of. I definitely see where you are coming from. Audio would be very important.
Not that I have taken a lot of video with mine yet but I have to say it does not sound any better/worse than my iPhone's ever did. Video is a ****load better though
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So it's not like a horrible difference yeah? Well that's good.
I mean my biggest thing was whether it'll be worse than my current phone.
myTouch 4G.
That's really what I'm trying to get at.
I don't have a problem with my phone's current audio recording.
I just don't want to be downgrading. =P
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If you want good audio quality on a phone camcorder, you're not going to have any luck with HTC, put simply. The Amaze is a fantastic phone and video quality is among the best out there, but audio has never been HTCs strong point. If you're looking for great audio, I'd suggest looking into a Motorola device, though T-Mobile really doesnt support Moto anymore it seems. If you do go with Motorola, just know that video quality will not be the best on most, at least from what I've seen. The Razr looks solid on both fronts. Then there's the iPhone 4S, which undoubtedly has the best of both worlds. Either way, I'll stick with the Amaze. I love it in every way.
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I can understand what you're saying, but my thing was just whether it's an audio downgrade from my current phone, the HTC myTouch 4G.
That's all. But thank you for the suggestions and yeah I'm not a big fan of Moto phones either.
Thank you.
What about Music quality?
How is the audio quality for music and video? I use my phone as mp3 player.
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How is the audio quality for music and video? I use my phone as mp3 player.
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The audio quality is very good. But not stellar. Much depends on the source. If you use badly compressed mp3 files and cheap earbuds don't expect much. The phone can play .flac files if you install a 3rd party player like PowerAMP. That combined with a good set of headphones (I'm using Klipsch, which are also very good but not stellar) then the audio quality is more than adequate.
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The audio quality is very good. But not stellar. Much depends on the source. If you use badly compressed mp3 files and cheap earbuds don't expect much. The phone can play .flac files if you install a 3rd party player like PowerAMP. That combined with a good set of headphones (I'm using Klipsch, which are also very good but not stellar) then the audio quality is more than adequate.
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I'm not that much of an audiophile but I do have good earbuds so I guess I should be set. Thanks
Why don't you take you're kids to a t-mobile and take some test videos too compare? Seems Luke that would be the easiest thing for you to do and you would not have to rely on any the opinion of someone else.
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As far as recording, the audio is just as good as my vibrant...take that as you may--I am not a huge video guy. Plus, once you record, you can edit the audio on your pc.
PowerAmp is the single, most important app for me...in the car, at work, everywhere, the output is amazing.
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Why don't you take you're kids to a t-mobile and take some test videos too compare? Seems Luke that would be the easiest thing for you to do and you would not have to rely on any the opinion of someone else.
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Sounds like a good idea there. Lol. I will probably do just that. Thanks.
Beats Audio
Do you know if Beats Audio will be in the Amaze anytime soon or in the dev posts?
audio seem ok to me...I had the SGS2 which only provides MONO audio, and audio quality seemed good . This phone provides mono and Stereo so I played around with it and when I put it on mono audio the sound quality is much better, but then again you get mono....So It might have something to do with the extra microphones trying to pick up extra sound and cutting out the background noise....Personally I feel the sound on the Amaze is much more clear with high treble, than the SGS2, is the only phone I can compare it to. sound on SGS2 was muffled a little. also the speakerphone on the back and front of the HTC device sound much less muffled than My SGS2, I have no experience with motrola or any other brank of phone.
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Do you know if Beats Audio will be in the Amaze anytime soon or in the dev posts?
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We already got a couple of roms that have Beats Audio Hack. Check them out
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We already got a couple of roms that have Beats Audio Hack. Check them out
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Ok Thanks...
nguyendqh said:
Sounds like a good idea there. Lol. I will probably do just that. Thanks.
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I installed a app from the marketplace called Volume+, it was less than 2 dollars. But you can go to the dev website and download it for free. It boost up the volume from the audio playing from the loudspeaker and headset. I don't know if it will boost the recorded incoming audio. To me I had the MT4G rooted with a sense 3.0 Rom and I already love this amaze. As long as your hand doesn't block the microphones on the phone it is fine. Plus for 15 dollars you can buy the adapter to hook up to your tv and watch the glorious 1080p via HDMI. Also my Amaze is all stock. Plus the reception and call quality is very good.
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keepzero said:
I installed a app from the marketplace called Volume+, it was less than 2 dollars. But you can go to the dev website and download it for free. It boost up the volume from the audio playing from the loudspeaker and headset. I don't know if it will boost the recorded incoming audio. To me I had the MT4G rooted with a sense 3.0 Rom and I already love this amaze. As long as your hand doesn't block the microphones on the phone it is fine. Plus for 15 dollars you can buy the adapter to hook up to your tv and watch the glorious 1080p via HDMI. Also my Amaze is all stock. Plus the reception and call quality is very good.
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This may seem odd but I found that, to me at least, it sounds better with the "stereo recording" off. That's how my MT4G videos sound.
Anyway, volume is not the problem here. It's sound quality.
I get the best recording with an app called rec forge, mono, wav and 22khz sample rate. The stereo recording does not improve the fidelity of the sound. I have yet to try an external Mic.
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This may be a thread that makes more sense in headfi.org but since it's related to the SGSNote, might as well tell you guys know.
Reference thread (one of many): http://www.head-fi.org/t/555006/samsung-galaxy-s2-vs-iphone-4
The Samsung Galaxy S had an exceptional Digital to Audio Converter or DAC that was a pleasure for Audiophiles to use.
The iPhone family due to its ultra popularity has multiple external DACs that are audiophile quality and bypass the POS Apple gifted on the iPhone.
But the SGS2, Skyrocket, Note and variants of the SGS2 (family) have been bestowed with a sub par quality Yamaha DAC. Now, if you read the thread, you will see that through PowerAMP and other means, such a bypass through the usb to use with an AMP, it fixes the atrocious headphone socket, but source quality is still poor. No one has as of yet created and most likely will not create a product that is compatible with the SGS2 family to bypass the awful Yamaha's.
So, we're stuck with sub par quality audio... Great. This is the only aspect I regret of selling my iphone 4. I was buying the HRT Streamer II meant for the iPhone, an exceptionally priced dac that bypasses the iphones source component.
My all FLAC/ALAC library and Beyerdynamic DT990's are very angry. There goes my music listening on the go.
Wait for Voodoo sound.
And stop using Flac. 320k mp3 is more than enough. Flac is a placebo.
Anyway. 320k mp3s sound great on my ATH-AD700s
Maroon Mushroom said:
Wait for Voodoo sound.
And stop using Flac. 320k mp3 is more than enough. Flac is a placebo.
Anyway. 320k mp3s sound great on my ATH-AD700s
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I notice the difference on my External Dac , and I have a crappy Fiio E9. All my mixtapes are 320k mp3s.
I can't wait for Voodoo, it helped get through Samsung's awful deving around the dac, but the yahama it self is still awful.
Voodoo Sound isn't coming, the stuffs it does do not apply in our situation.
We might however be able to pull some better quality out of the YDA165, I did some research on that with the SR, but didn't take it anywhere.
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Voodoo Sound isn't coming, the stuffs it does do not apply in our situation.
We might however be able to pull some better quality out of the YDA165, I did some research on that with the SR, but didn't take it anywhere.
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I wonder if I could remove the surface mounted (I'm guessing) chip from the mobo and install something nice, like a burrbrown. too bad I don't know anything about software to set it up, or if it is even possible to pull this off.
Here's hoping someone tries though.
We probably won't even get Voodoo LOUDER since supercurio doesn't support Skyrocket and other Qualcomm flavors of the GS2.
I'm not an audiophile, but I still find the sound quality disappointing. I guess most people don't realize or pay enough attention to sound reproduction to make Samsung put a better DAC in their recent phones. I'm sure they save money using the Yamaha, but I'd definitely be willing to pay a little bit more for the Wolfson they had in their last generation of phones.
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We probably won't even get Voodoo LOUDER since supercurio doesn't support Skrocket and other Qualcomm flavors of the GS2.
I'm not an audiophile, but I still find the sound quality disappointing. I guess most people don't realize or pay enough attention to sound reproduction to make Samsung put a better DAC in their recent phones. I'm sure they save money using the Yamaha, but I'd definitely be willing to pay a little bit more for the Wolfson they had in their last generation of phones.
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couldn't agree more!
yeap i do agree that samsung is doing a bad.job on that
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yeap i do agree that samsung is doing a bad.job on that
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I agree... The last at&t phone with the good sound DAC chip and supported Voodoo sound was the Samsung Infuse. The skyrocket and note are a no go, at least for right now.
And I thought I expected a lot from a phone...
So is this player worth getting? I had Zune HD a while back but didn't use it a whole lot. I don't like using my Incredible as an mp3 player and I currently have a sansa clip+.
Is there something that stands this out over other mp3 players?
things I'm looking for:
Sound quality
ease of use (syncing, organizing, etc.)
battery life (my clip+ get 6-8 hours, I want 12+)
durability (i am butter fingered)
bukithd said:
So is this player worth getting? I had Zune HD a while back but didn't use it a whole lot. I don't like using my Incredible as an mp3 player and I currently have a sansa clip+.
Is there something that stands this out over other mp3 players?
things I'm looking for:
Sound quality
ease of use (syncing, organizing, etc.)
battery life (my clip+ get 6-8 hours, I want 12+)
durability (i am butter fingered)
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Well... since you seem to be familiar with Android devices already, I am not sure what else you are looking for. If you need just a music player, stick to what you have.
The Galaxy player 4.0 is a brilliant sounding player with Voodoo Sound installed which takes advantage of the Wolfson DAC which is regarded as one of the best audiophile sound chips. The sound quality is brilliant with wide soundstage, rich punchy bass and good mids and highs. The sound quality is up there with my Sony X1060 and Cowon J3.
Just got the 5.0 today will test out tonight! Hello everyone not new to xda just this section glad i cld join yall and help as much as pos
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For me - the 5.0 has a bigger screen than my GSII, but it's not as large as my Tab.
I actually find myself using it far more than expected - it's in a kind of perfect size range. However I almost never actually use it for media playback!
If I owned a Galaxy Note it would probably be pointless - but it's pretty well suited in the size gap between the DInc and Transformer the OP owns.
Well what it seems is that I might just upgrade my clip+ to the clip zip.
I love android but i think having three devices is a bit much. Granted the audiophile bit a few posts intrigues me.
I guess this is better for people without tablets/phone who still want andy in their pocket. A good phone upgrade is what I really need.
Why is the audio chipset diff in the 4.0 and the 5.0? Anyone know, seems kinda crazy to me.
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Worth getting? Definitely. I've had iPod touch 4G and Galaxy Player YP GB70 and I'm just selling the iPod. The Samsung is way more practical in daily use. There are two GB70 versions here in Korea, white with TFT display and black with something that seems to be OLED. I like the white one more (have both currently ;-). Also in March there would be new version of Galaxy Player 70 introduced, maybe wait for that one and order directly from Korea..
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Why is the audio chipset diff in the 4.0 and the 5.0? Anyone know, seems kinda crazy to me.
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Oh yeah, forgot that difference... The MC1N2 in the 5.0 is a bit of a disappointment.
I just read a thread that complains about the poor audio quality. I want to say the audio quality of EVO 3D is only acceptable. I compared EVO with my ipod touch. It is obvious that the music on ipod touch is more clear than EVO. So is that a way that I can improve the audio quality of my EVO 3D? I dont want to put two devices into my pocket.
Here is what I think
1) install another music player like winmap AWP Meridian.....
I have tried them all and none of them can provide better quality than stock music player. Winmap sucks. When I use winmap I hear a lot of noises that I have ever heard before. Does anyone has the same experience?
2) install custom rom&custom kernel
I find out Chad's kernels can provide great sound quality, but it will trade your bluetooth camera.....etc. Did anyone try this?
3) another way that I still not find out
I am looking forward your reply or solution.
Thanks guys
who says Chads kernels cause issues?
have you tried PowerAmp?
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who says Chads kernels cause issues?
have you tried PowerAmp?
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From a thread........did you try this rom? I did try power amp but nothing changed.
Roberrt110 said:
Phones will never have acceptable sound quality for me, maybe iPhones but I don't like them. If u want good sound buy a small player maybe from cowon or something like that, it's worth it cause of battery and storage. it also depends on parameters of your headphones, but generally phones and music don't come good together. Look at cowon e2 which is small and powerful, or some iPods. if u want something more from your Evo I'm afraid u have to change some parts inside, and develop your own rom with drivers I'd enjoy.
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I do not like iPhone. It is girl's favorite toy, not for a man. As what I said in my thread, I don't want to carry two devices. You know jeans only have 2 pockets. One is for wallet and another one is for your phone. Maybe there is a way to improve audio quality. I hope......
Roberrt110 said:
That's why I don't wear jeans mate xd. Audiophiles aren't welcome in the smartphone world. And cowon e2 you can pin to your keys, it's designed for it. and back to the evo i read in mwakious rom's changelog he makes some sound improvements. At least u can just install a ROM with beats and try it out with some beats headphones if u like, maybe you will find the sound good.
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Thanks for advice. I just googled cowon e2.Wow its apperal looks fuuny and it is enough small to put it into my pocket. I will think about it. BTW, English is not my mother language. So I cant be your teacher.Mabye there are some mistake in your sentence but I can understand what you said. Just forget about it.
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That's why I don't wear jeans mate xd. Audiophiles aren't welcome in the smartphone world. And cowon e2 you can pin to your keys, it's designed for it. and back to the evo i read in mwakious rom's changelog he makes some sound improvements. At least u can just install a ROM with beats and try it out with some beats headphones if u like, maybe you will find the sound good.
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The beats headphones have poor audio quality. Especially if you look at the price tag they are acceptable at best.
The beats smartphone "software" is nothing but an equalizer. I'm not saying it does not help but it's neither rocket science nor magic.
The best thing to do might be buying a small mp3 Player e..g. Sansa clip+
What Kind of headphones do you use?
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Pommes_Schranke said:
The beats headphones have poor audio quality. Especially if you look at the price tag they are acceptable at best.
The beats smartphone "software" is nothing but an equalizer. I'm not saying it does not help but it's neither rocket science nor magic.
The best thing to do might be buying a small mp3 Player e..g. Sansa clip+
What Kind of headphones do you use?
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I am now using AKG K420. I am satisfied with it. I like the looks of beats headphone,but its audio quality is average.
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Try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1147436
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Try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1147436
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what this？
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Well, assuming you are on a gingerbread rom, flashing chads latest kernel will greatly improve sound quality and volume. I think beats is a gimmick but everything chad has done really makes a huge difference.
In regards to other players, I've always thought ipods had horrible sound quality. Always seemed very flat. My old cowon iaudio mp3 player had the best sound quality I've ever heard. I've yet to come across something that produced the same level of quality.
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After a little research, it turns out the Evo 3D actually has one of the best sound chips around. It may not be being utilised properly, but I think one of Chad's kernel's did make use of it. The O2X does exactly the same thing... has a cracking sound chip, and then completely fails to make use of it.
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Well, assuming you are on a gingerbread rom, flashing chads latest kernel will greatly improve sound quality and volume. I think beats is a gimmick but everything chad has done really makes a huge difference.
In regards to other players, I've always thought ipods had horrible sound quality. Always seemed very flat. My old cowon iaudio mp3 player had the best sound quality I've ever heard. I've yet to come across something that produced the same level of quality.
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thanks for advice. I would like to confirm one thing is if chad rom dont support ICS Rom.
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Well, assuming you are on a gingerbread rom, flashing chads latest kernel will greatly improve sound quality and volume. I think beats is a gimmick but everything chad has done really makes a huge difference.
In regards to other players, I've always thought ipods had horrible sound quality. Always seemed very flat. My old cowon iaudio mp3 player had the best sound quality I've ever heard. I've yet to come across something that produced the same level of quality.
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btw why do you think ipod offers poor audio quality？ Compared with other mp3 player, ipod does offer less audio augmentation option like BBE or fullsound. But it doesnt mean original audio effect is poor. Sometimes these audio effect may reduce the music quality just like beats audio of htcphone. Some guys have already posted threads to complain about it. I like ipod not only for its looks but also it can offer us with clearly original audio quality. PS. I am not an apple fan.......
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btw why do you think ipod offers poor audio quality？ Compared with other mp3 player, ipod does offer less audio augmentation option like BBE or fullsound. But it doesnt mean original audio effect is poor. Sometimes these audio effect may reduce the music quality just like beats audio of htcphone. Some guys have already posted threads to complain about it. I like ipod not only for its looks but also it can offer us with clearly original audio quality. PS. I am not an apple fan.......
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Chase kernels do improve sound quality, and he does have ics kernels, just head over to infected Rom and grab the latest version for your Rom.
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And install dsp 1.0 for gb and 2.0 for ics
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Scougar said:
After a little research, it turns out the Evo 3D actually has one of the best sound chips around. It may not be being utilised properly, but I think one of Chad's kernel's did make use of it. The O2X does exactly the same thing... has a cracking sound chip, and then completely fails to make use of it.
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Hey,
Can you forward me this research? I'm interested to learn more about why our Evos have a constant hissing noise.
Scougar said:
After a little research, it turns out the Evo 3D actually has one of the best sound chips around. It may not be being utilised properly, but I think one of Chad's kernel's did make use of it. The O2X does exactly the same thing... has a cracking sound chip, and then completely fails to make use of it.
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I am very curiois about your research. Did you flash chad kernel？
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Scougar said:
After a little research, it turns out the Evo 3D actually has one of the best sound chips around. It may not be being utilised properly, but I think one of Chad's kernel's did make use of it. The O2X does exactly the same thing... has a cracking sound chip, and then completely fails to make use of it.
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Yeah, the chip on the EVO 3D is pretty good even if it's not the best. I recently upgraded my PC and the motherboard on board audio sounds weird to me over my last sound card. At this point I'd rather stream music to my phone to listen there via headphones. The sound does have a hissing to it but I thought that it was just interference from the other components.
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Yeah, the chip on the EVO 3D is pretty good even if it's not the best. I recently upgraded my PC and the motherboard on board audio sounds weird to me over my last sound card. At this point I'd rather stream music to my phone to listen there via headphones. The sound does have a hissing to it but I thought that it was just interference from the other components.
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which kernel do you use now? and Rom?
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which kernel do you use now? and Rom?
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Forgot to clarify, I'm just using tbe stock ROM and firmware for Sprint; nothing special. Play back music through HTC's media player with any enhancements off. That's why I said it's pretty good.
I do not know if any of you know how good the Zune HD's sound quality is, but I was wondering if it is possible to get the same kind of quality on our 3D. I know the quality depends on the DAC and circuity from what Ive read, but our phone's hardware is more recent and therefore I assume it has to have better parts than the Zune's. Would it be possible to create an app or a background service that can give the same quality?
Unfortunately htc probably didn't spend the money on the audio hardware. Poweramp, volune+, dsp manager, and beats mods improve sound (depending who you ask). There are other apps but nothing that revolutionary.
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Juan685 said:
I do not know if any of you know how good the Zune HD's sound quality is, but I was wondering if it is possible to get the same kind of quality on our 3D. I know the quality depends on the DAC and circuity from what Ive read, but our phone's hardware is more recent and therefore I assume it has to have better parts than the Zune's. Would it be possible to create an app or a background service that can give the same quality?
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You have two choices to get the best sound possible on your 3D:
1. Buy Poweramp
2. Install "Android Revolution HD" ROM and flash Beats on it.
As someone who owns a Zune HD, I understand exactly what you are talking about. It's audio quality is simply unmatched. I still carry mine around, it's small enough that it fits in that little "sub-pocket" that most jeans tend to have on the right pocket.
gk1984 said:
Unfortunately htc probably didn't spend the money on the audio hardware. Poweramp, volune+, dsp manager, and beats mods improve sound (depending who you ask). There are other apps but nothing that revolutionary.
Couldn't we create something to imitate the same sound as that of the Zune, if Volume + can emulate Beats audio why couldn't we create something similar. Plus I think if can get Chad's kernel with the improved sound drivers I am sure it can surpass that quality and make it audiophile acceptable.
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acevo3d said:
You have two choices to get the best sound possible on your 3D:
1. Buy Poweramp
2. Install "Android Revolution HD" ROM and flash Beats on it.
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I think Ive done that in the past, I had Poweramp with beats enabled and Chad's kernel on top of that with the better drivers. It sounded great, even the htc's music app sounded better than with just stock Beats. However, Im still fiending for that Zune quality! When I had my Zune HD music was great and I could listen to it all day without any discomfort, even in loud places with cheap headphones. With Beats its cool too, but sometimes its better when you are in a quiet place.
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As someone who owns a Zune HD, I understand exactly what you are talking about. It's audio quality is simply unmatched. I still carry mine around, it's small enough that it fits in that little "sub-pocket" that most jeans tend to have on the right pocket.
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Yeah, I feel you. I have the Ubermusic app and it sounds somewhat better than any other music app but I cant remember if its quality is the same as a real zune hd.
This is one reason why I can't use this as my main phone. And HTC isn't the only manufacturer whose sound quality is like this. I really hope this changes
I think Bose should make HTC speakers and drivers
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I think Bose should make HTC speakers and drivers.
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So we could have an over-priced phone?
Let JBL or Shure handle it.
"Ain't got no highs, ain't got no lows...must be a pair of Bose."
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This is one reason why I can't use this as my main phone. And HTC isn't the only manufacturer whose sound quality is like this. I really hope this changes
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I'm kind of an idiot when it comes to sound quality, so just using a decent pair of earphones\earbuds doesn't give an htc phone good quality?
ZPlayer
I have never tried a zune, but I know that the App ZPLAYER looks exactly like zunes' UI and has a pretty good equalizer. I actually use this player more than any other, even though I got beats installed.
It's not free, but you shall try it. I can send the API or you'd know how to get it
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I have never tried a zune, but I know that the App ZPLAYER looks exactly like zunes' UI and has a pretty good equalizer. I actually use this player more than any other, even though I got beats installed.
It's not free, but you shall try it. I can send the API or you'd know how to get it
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It's not about the look of the app. It's the sound quality. The hardware inside the Zune HD gave it a truly wonderful sound (way better than all the iPods and the other MP3 players of the time) and the OP is looking for a way to fix that.
I still think we can fix this some way or another. I am not a developer but I am willing to learn to develop a service or app or maybe even just port the way the zune hd handles audio. Or someone else can do it who has the experience. I am thinking we could probably hack and tweak our audio chips just like we can overclock our cpus, couldn't we overclock it the same way? Moreover, I found out that the 2009 Ipod touch used a similar chip as the zune hd's. Yet, audio sounded different because maybe there is a software aspect that helps also. Also, the zune had a tegra processor plus a dedicated audio core, although I do not know if this is the same as Wolfson's.
Wikipedia has some specs if this can help:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zunehd
Here is the audio chip the zune used according to Engadget:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/15/microsofts-zune-hd-already-cracked-open-and-photographed/2
http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/power_management/WM8352/
and this website has more information if anybody is interested:
http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Audio-DAC-chips-does-anyone-care-anymore
Couldn't we also replace our audio chips with this one:
http://www.cirrus.com/en/products/cs4970xx_family.html
Does anybody know if the decoder, or whatever makes music sound good on the Zune HD, can be ported to our phones? Or be used to create a service like Beats or dsp manager to run in the background?
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I'm kind of an idiot when it comes to sound quality, so just using a decent pair of earphones\earbuds doesn't give an htc phone good quality?
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Yes and no. From what I understand, the quality starts at the sound file. If the sound or song is bad it will sound bad on cheap headphones and maybe even in expensive headphones, too. The next step would be probably the chosen media player, which will send the audio signals it gets from reading the sound file to the Digital to Analog Converter (DAC) to be "decoded" and played out through the jack by the headphones.
I do not know if this is 100 percent correct, but this is the way it seems. Correct me if I am wrong.
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I have never tried a zune, but I know that the App ZPLAYER looks exactly like zunes' UI and has a pretty good equalizer. I actually use this player more than any other, even though I got beats installed.
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I already tried it, but it sounds more like google's stock music app, at least to me.
greeeeetttt
Juan685 said:
I do not know if any of you know how good the Zune HD's sound quality is, but I was wondering if it is possible to get the same kind of quality on our 3D. I know the quality depends on the DAC and circuity from what Ive read, but our phone's hardware is more recent and therefore I assume it has to have better parts than the Zune's. Would it be possible to create an app or a background service that can give the same quality?
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I have posted the same thread to seek a way to enhance the audio quality. Some guys gave me some advice that flash the chad`s kernel. Yes, the man who has been banned from XDA. I dont know the exactly the reason why his kernel will improve the audio quality but some guys who flashed his kernel did approved it worked. I still not tried it because I dont know the way to root & s-off my EVO 3D. You can find his kernel through infected rom .com(please google) If you try it, please post your experience. Thanks
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It's not about the look of the app. It's the sound quality. The hardware inside the Zune HD gave it a truly wonderful sound (way better than all the iPods and the other MP3 players of the time) and the OP is looking for a way to fix that.
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I see, I'm sorry then.
I'll go and give the Zune HD a listen asap!
Anywaay, Zplayer is a good app
Zune HD is the best media player I have had, and still rattling my civic trunk.
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I have posted the same thread to seek a way to enhance the audio quality. Some guys gave me some advice that flash the chad`s kernel. Yes, the man who has been banned from XDA. I dont know the exactly the reason why his kernel will improve the audio quality but some guys who flashed his kernel did approved it worked. I still not tried it because I dont know the way to root & s-off my EVO 3D. You can find his kernel through infected rom .com(please google) If you try it, please post your experience. Thanks
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My bad. I must had forgotten to reply back. The sound quality was good on his kernel, but it is still not like the Zune HD's.
have you tried v4a? ---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191223
Read all the top 5-6 posts from the OP for instructions and understand them carefully before installing.
There are many services and equalizers that offer very different audio qualities....Never listened to a zune but there are many settings and presets that might help.
Here is list of some of the IR samples that can be used with V4A ---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2216193
Question is, is there one? Reason....first, the video is excellent but the audio codec encodes horribly and the resulting videos sound track is horrible. That damn compression noise from super low audio bitrates is horrible. And that beeping noise, im almost certain it comes from the sound cancellation settings. You get the same compression and beeping noise when you use the built in voice recorder app in the AAC method.. I downloaded an app from the market labeled "Microphone". Basically it feeds all sound from the mic directly to the speaker or headphones (supposed to use headphones and it works as a sound amplifier with a headset on) . While testing that, I did not hear that horrible compression noise, but...when I turned something on with louder low frequency noises such as my car or the stereo, I would notice that beeping noise. So it appeared that a sound cancellation setting was responsible for the beeping.
So I tried a few other apps. RecForge Lite mainly...after making numerous test recordings and pksybacks, I have observed that there is no compression noise in the recordings generated by RecForge Lite. I have also noticed there is NO beeping noises either. The recordings were very clean and high quality.
So...I have searched for an alternate video recording app in the market..gahhhh, I cant find one. I want to record video without that horrible noise, now that I know its possible.
lol i feel ya. we went through this months ago when it came out. go in development if you're rooted and flash Joes hq camera mod. it helps a bit with the compression but it still isn't perfect.
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lol i feel ya. we went through this months ago when it came out. go in development if you're rooted and flash Joes hq camera mod. it helps a bit with the compression but it still isn't perfect.
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Yeah all the different things we tried haha.
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Shutting down noise cancellation in the build prop does not help. It's HTC software... It's way deep into their system too. ICS camera in the market does an ok job of recording video and audio.
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Shutting down noise cancellation in the build prop does not help. It's HTC software... It's way deep into their system too. ICS camera in the market does an ok job of recording video and audio.
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yeah, it works, but i couldn't get ICS camera to do 1080p for me, only 720
BUT sense 3.6 and ICS gets rid of teh clinks and pops in the recording, if anyone else noticed..lol
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Shutting down noise cancellation in the build prop does not help. It's HTC software... It's way deep into their system too. ICS camera in the market does an ok job of recording video and audio.
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That ICS cam, is it just for ICS or can it be used in other versions of Android? Rooted necessary?
Ah yes our old nemesis - Rezound noise cancellation...
There's another camera/camcorder app on the market I tried a couple months ago when this came up, lgCamera (I think it works on GB and ICS). It has settings galore, probably not all of which are supported on the Rezound. I see it's been updated since I last tried it. I honestly don't remember how much of an improvement it made with the audio track but it's worth a try:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=rubberbigpepper.lgCamera
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Ah yes our old nemesis - Rezound noise cancellation...
There's another camera/camcorder app on the market I tried a couple months ago when this came up, lgCamera (I think it works on GB and ICS). It has settings galore, probably not all of which are supported on the Rezound. I see it's been updated since I last tried it. I honestly don't remember how much of an improvement it made with the audio track but it's worth a try:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=rubberbigpepper.lgCamera
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I had caught sight if that when I was in the market but was afraid it might mess something up if I installed.. it does say "LG" ... Tho...I will give it a try. Thanks rsage. I will be back later with the results...and hopefully it doesnt kaboom my camera ...
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I had caught sight if that when I was in the market but was afraid it might mess something up if I installed.. it does say "LG" ... Tho...I will give it a try. Thanks rsage. I will be back later with the results...and hopefully it doesnt kaboom my camera ...
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No it doesn't have anything to do with LG the cell phone company, and it won't affect the stock camera
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Any idea what the difference is between the Free and the Paid versions? Does it expire or is there some kind of limit?
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Any idea what the difference is between the Free and the Paid versions? Does it expire or is there some kind of limit?
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Probably ads... Lol..
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Probably ads... Lol..
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Nope, no ads.
Oh by the way, that lgcamera is awesome. The video records good and the audio quality is very good. Way better ...and NO beepng! Im stoked!
Only thing is, it seems the video is zoomed in one notch by default and you cant bump it back any so its got a very narrow fov and a bit close to the objects in front. It doesnt size it like that in normal photo mode...hmm..ill have to notify the Dev.
Thanks rsage
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Nope, no ads.
Oh by the way, that lgcamera is awesome. The video records good and the audio quality is very good. Way better ...and NO beepng! Im stoked!
Only thing is, it seems the video is zoomed in one notch by default and you cant bump it back any so its got a very narrow fov and a bit close to the objects in front. It doesnt size it like that in normal photo mode...hmm..ill have to notify the Dev.
Thanks rsage
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Now your making me curious about that app......
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killahrey said:
Probably ads... Lol..
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Ohschit said:
Now your making me curious about that app......
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Oh yeah, you can change the video and audio bitrates. Change audio sample rate and other things as well. Tho, you will have to play with the bit rates a bit as some of them cause corrupt video files (noted - if the video freezes but the recording timer still counts, it will be a corrupt vid. Use a different bitrate. Note, dont use too low of audio bitrate with a high sample rate). Im still testing it out. Fix that video zoom glitch and it blows the stock camera out of the water. The only thing the stock cam has against this is the shutter lag time. Stock cam, pic taking is nearly instant, with lgcamera there is a half second lag. Not too bad tho. You dont take action shots with your phone lol .
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Oh yeah, you can change the video and audio bitrates. Change audio sample rate and other things as well. Tho, you will have to play with the bit rates a bit as some of them cause corrupt video files (noted - if the video freezes but the recording timer still counts, it will be a corrupt vid. Use a different bitrate. Note, dont use too low of audio bitrate with a high sample rate). Im still testing it out. Fix that video zoom glitch and it blows the stock camera out of the water. The only thing the stock cam has against this is the shutter lag time. Stock cam, pic taking is nearly instant, with lgcamera there is a half second lag. Not too bad tho. You dont take action shots with your phone lol .
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what settings in video did you use that cleared it up without corruption?