Teardown of the Xperia Play
This might be useful for the developpers and curious people like me
Just for you to know we have a great processor and the best RAM for performance
Follow this link for more info:
http://www.ubmtechinsights.com/teardowns/sony-xperia-play-teardown/?cid=137
1 gb internal ?? I wish -.-
We have only around 380
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It says we have 2gb ddr2 ram and an 8gb nand lol
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Gb != GB guys !
1Gb = 128 MB.
But the teardown is damn nice. IC decapping and stuff .... they take the term "teardown" damn serious xD
Regards,
iCEQB
I though 1024mb = 1gb lol
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1024 MB = 1 GigaBYTE correct !
But 1 GigaBIT = 128 MB !
GigaBIT (Gb) and GigaBYTE (GB) are two complete different things
Regards,
iCEQB
pay special attention to the "b".
1B = 8b
or
1 byte = 8 bit
which means
8 Gb = 1 GB
computers only deal with bytes, that is why you only see the lower value.
Fun fact: check the advertised internet speed from you provider, almost all of them use "bit", witch is 1/8 of the actual speed you get, witch is in "byte"
oh, and byte is used mostly because it represents one character, while bit is used to represent a 0 or 1,
Thanks guys, i never knew that lol
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What I find interesting on this is
Other major design wins include Micron’s MT29F8G16ADBDAH4 8Gb (1GB) NAND Flash (for storage) and Broadcom’s BCM4329 Bluetooth, WiFi and FM radio IC.
FM Radio, is this the same as the Nexus One, comes with the hardware but no application/kernel support?
I think I read somewhere that they left the FM-radio out cause of battery consumption and it really was a drainer on my htc desire hd.
Regards Dousan...
m3dteam said:
pay special attention to the "b".
1B = 8b
or
1 byte = 8 bit
which means
8 Gb = 1 GB
computers only deal with bytes, that is why you only see the lower value.
Fun fact: check the advertised internet speed from you provider, almost all of them use "bit", witch is 1/8 of the actual speed you get, witch is in "byte"
oh, and byte is used mostly because it represents one character, while bit is used to represent a 0 or 1,
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Not quite, they use bits, which is 8 times what you think you are getting...if they say 8 meg broadband, you're getting 8 megabits or 1 megabytes broadband.
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kenshindono said:
Teardown of the Xperia Play
This might be useful for the developpers and curious people like me
Just for you to know we have a great processor and the best RAM for performance
Follow this link for more info:
http://www.ubmtechinsights.com/teardowns/sony-xperia-play-teardown/?cid=137
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Just a quick question. Sony Ericsson spec for Xperia Play is 512 MB of RAM, but the Elpida DDR2 RAM is just 2Gb which means only 256 MB of RAM. Is there another 256 MB of RAM somewhere else?
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I've heard that you guys have folio100s with 512MB ram,
But mine has 1GB ram, dunno why....
now that I flashed Dexter's Mod foliomodv1.4,
which is a 512MBRAM version,
Now my OS cannot recognize all of my RAM, it just recognizes 751MB of the 1GB.
the data is gotten from typing 'free' in console mode.
what should I do to find the hidden part of my ram back to work?
I've tried CyanogenMod7, and it's worse, the ram decreases to exactly 512MB.
Thx to anyone who will help me with this!Sincerely!
How do you know there is really 1Gb ram in your folio ? Don't you think it's probably just a bug showing 1 gb intead of 512 mb?
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How do you know there is really 1Gb ram in your folio ? Don't you think it's probably just a bug showing 1 gb intead of 512 mb?
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it says so on the label at the back side beside the battery.
and when I'm on native rom the 'free' command shows 990MB free memory, and I always use up to 700+MB ram running all kinds of apps.
but however, as everybody knows, the native rom sucks.
so, is there a way I can adjust the foliomod to yield some more ram?
OK. I was a bit surprised and was thinking that it could be due to a bug.
Unfortunatly I have no answer to your problem.
Is this one of the new batch that was supposed to relaunch in April, or are you just lucky?
I have that label too that says my folio has 1gb ram, Bought my folio about 2 months ago?
How can i find out does it really have 1gb ram?
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I have that label too that says my folio has 1gb ram, Bought my folio about 2 months ago?
How can i find out does it really have 1gb ram?
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The native rom will tell you your total ram is 990MB. And you can experience great multitasking !
So, dude, wr are the minority, we should try to fix it, don't you think?
I bought my Folio a month ago and only have 512 Mb reported by Cyanogen.
Do someone know why there are some differences here ?
Mine has 512 mb ram, and 1gb for app installation.
Maybe the inscription in the box is 1gb of ram , for app.
If you really do have 1 gb of ram, lucky you
Ill check that out, ill post my results here then
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who would continue with this problem?
I am still confused, I recently have returned to the native rom and obtained the latest official update, it is really stable, with touchscreen responsive, though poor graphic performance(opengl1.1) and wrong direction of sensor in some games.
but the ram reported is the same as foliomodv1.4, that is, 751MB, don't you think it is interesting? it's like the DDR2 ram has 8 blocks with each 128MB, and foliomod has discovered only 6 of them, while Cyanogenmod discovered only 4 of them, that's why Cyanogenmod reports 482MB total ram.
in fact, seen from the dissembly pictures sent from a guy in China like me, there really are 8 similar blocks on the chipboard, with 128MB written on each block as the guy told.
So what do you think, guys? Is it possible to find the hidden memory blocks and get them to work? I think it is highly possible, for different roms report different total ram, and some of them well exceeds the assumed 512MB, that's an implication that some of the folio100 really are bestowed with 1GB ram, rather than 512MB. So why can't there be a rom that makes full use of the ram?
I believe we are the last group of Folio100 users inthe world, so we are gonna stick together to make the most out of our device, guess what, newly published devices mostly have the same hardware as our folio(I mean the 1GB version), except for the screen, but I don't see it as an unacceptable shortcoming. Lower resolution sometimes mean higher performance. I've tried Backbreaker THD running on MOTO XOOM, though the graphics are good, but as I expected it isn't so smooth as running on Folio100. So disadvantages come with advantages, that's why we'll stick to Folio100, at least Before Tegra3 becomes trivial.
Expecting replies from you !! In hope of a better rom and a better tomorrow!
Me too...
CM9/ICM , it just recognizes 512MB of the 1GB.(RAM)
But FolioNotion2.0 recognizes 1G.
I can't paly games like Plants vs Zombies in CM9/ICM ,But in FolioNotion,It works perfect....
I am still confused...
folio100---512M Rom
AS100---1G Rom
Xda Rom just dev for folio100... So,we are just recognizes 512M.
but FolioNotion have recognizes 1G,Why?
1GB with foliomod 1.4
as100 with 1gb ram,and a recently flashed ics rom changed it to 375mb.......those who r confused with the 1gb ram on folio can go to search the pics of disassembly of as100 in some chinese website, after u do that u could fing that there r 8 ram chips installed on the pcb while some of the folio may only have 4installed...
i checked now my folio,...
http://db.tt/dVei7u49 on the top on the right side, is a small sticker 1GB000
CM9 shows me 364M
Is there any way to test it on cm9?
Crunon said:
i checked now my folio,...
http://db.tt/dVei7u49 on the top on the right side, is a small sticker 1GB000
CM9 shows me 364M
Is there any way to test it on cm9?
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I have that sticker with 1GB000 as well, does that mean I have a 1 GB device?
DT84 said:
I have that sticker with 1GB000 as well, does that mean I have a 1 GB device?
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Maybe someone can test it with Ubuntu?
I have the sticker with 01GB000.
I checked the picture of the hardware (ref.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=868617)
On one side there are 4 chip NT5TU128M8DE-AC that is a 128Mx8 DDR2-800
so 128M x 8 = 1Gbit and 4 x 1Gbit = 4Gbit = 512 Mbyte.
On the other side there is a place for additional RAM (see picture BILD2387)
If you have the chips in these place you have additional 512Mbyte of ram otherwise no.
To open this box you have to remove only the back cover and open the box with a cutter under the corner with the arrow.
In my case there aren't additional chips of RAM.
So the sticker 01G000 is not for RAM info.
Sorry.
Bye
kgerva said:
I have the sticker with 01GB000.
I checked the picture of the hardware (ref.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=868617)
On one side there are 4 chip NT5TU128M8DE-AC that is a 128Mx8 DDR2-800
so 128M x 8 = 1Gbit and 4 x 1Gbit = 4Gbit = 512 Mbyte.
On the other side there is a place for additional RAM (see picture BILD2387)
If you have the chips in these place you have additional 512Mbyte of ram otherwise no.
To open this box you have to remove only the back cover and open the box with a cutter under the corner with the arrow.
In my case there aren't additional chips of RAM.
So the sticker 01G000 is not for RAM info.
Sorry.
Bye
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I've just checked and there's no extra RAM for me as well.
Thank you anyway for your explaination.
I also have the AS100 model with 1GB RAM. Does any one know how to modify ROM to detect all available RAM?
According to the specifications the ram in LG Optimus One is 512MB, but in my phone its showing up 419 MB is that a problem, or is that same for all?
It's normal. I heard that some of RAM is used for graphic card unit.
charan315 said:
According to the specifications the ram in LG Optimus One is 512MB, but in my phone its showing up 419 MB is that a problem, or is that same for all?
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It's normal man. Sdcard 8gb but it's show 7,46gb
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my 4GB sandisk sd card , show's me only 3.19 GB's
Its normal, its the partitioned... Like mine is 8GB sdhc, and now is 6.91 gb...
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The difference is due to the difference in the calculation parameters. We take 1024 in calculation but the manufacturers takes 1000 as their calculation unit.
1024 * 8 = 8192
1000 * 8 = 8000
You might be thinking that this is not a big difference. The other factor is the file system information and files which are stored along
can anyone please tell me why my phone is showing just 349 mb's of total ram instead of 512 ram, while my 7 surround shows 475 instead of 512.
475 is ok but 349 in my titan is not considerable.
Where do you see your ram? Anyway if is a program it could be 2 things or its showing the memory not on use or it takes off the memory reserved for the GPU but the Titan has 512 ram sure
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Actually i am using phone info it is showing that total memory is 349 mb and available memory is 193 mb. I used the other programs from marketplace but the same result.
I don't see why this would be an issue even?
I actually want to know that is there any issue with my phone or it is same amount of ram with all the titans.Please check in your phones.
akash_bidhuna said:
I actually want to know that is there any issue with my phone or it is same amount of ram with all the titans.Please check in your phones.
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Mine is 352MB. Looks like you are short changed
J/K. It's all the same.
On the other hand, my Galaxy S2 has 1GB of ram (800+ MB reported) and running dual core 1.2 GHz CPU. And yet, it still managed to be slower/slugish than my Titan running 1.5Ghz single core and 349MB of RAM.
I checked that, you have that ram 349mb because 150 Mb of ram are reserved for the graphic GPU, like in the integrated GPU of laptops, you have 512MB of ram but the system only sees the part that is not reserved for te graphics
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Thanks for your replies,now i am able to understand the concept of ram usage.
Lenovo think pad x120e
4GB ram
320 GB HDD
1.6GHz AMD E-350 dual core CPU
Or do I need to sell it and pay more money?
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mmapcpro said:
Lenovo think pad x120e
4GB ram
320 GB HDD
1.6GHz AMD E-350 dual core CPU
Or do I need to sell it and pay more money?
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Should be fine with the 4 gigs of ram, use ccache some decent swap, and you might need to shrink the java emulator size, also be sure to use 64 bit ics+
Here is a commit to help with the java emulator while building
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_build/commit/28573da93e0332a9b2cbeeb1d204ef9673172b2a
How about 2 gigs of ram ?? Will it work? Thanks in advance.
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How about 2 gigs of ram ?? Will it work? Thanks in advance.
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It might work. But very less chance of working in machines less than 4gigs of ram. 4gigs of ram would be the minimum configuration.
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I can go up to 8 gigs on this box. You think it would be worth throwing another 4gig stick in?
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I can go up to 8 gigs on this box. You think it would be worth throwing another 4gig stick in?
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It's always worth maxing your memory you'll notice good performance gains and will speed up compile times significantly. 4 GB should be no more then $20-$40 so it's a great upgrade for the money
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Thanks.
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More RAM?
It should he just about enough to make a ROM, but I think you should install more RAM to your laptop, just in case.
RAM should be fairly easy to install...
Good luck on making your ROM!
2 GB RAM
Core i3 2.20 Ghz
500 GB
Win7 and andLinux installed
It should be no problem.
You see i am running Linux on my win7
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mpoendi said:
2 GB RAM
Core i3 2.20 Ghz
500 GB
Win7 and andLinux installed
It should be no problem.
You see i am running Linux on my win7
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You haven't got any problems cooking roms?
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I have a 3Gb memory,250Gb hard drive Toshiba satellite laptop with home vista windows premium is this laptop good enough to build ROMs,kernels,apps,etc. Thanks in advance!!!
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Mesaman2012 said:
I have a 3Gb memory,250Gb hard drive Toshiba satellite laptop with home vista windows premium is this laptop good enough to build ROMs,kernels,apps,etc. Thanks in advance!!!
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In order to compile ROM's (AOSP from source) and kernels (From source) you will need to use a UNIX based operating system such as OSX or Linux, personally I would recommend dual booting your laptop with Ubuntu 11.10 to maximize compatibility for compiling ROM's and kernels. For making apps you can use either Linux or Windows, and I would recommend using the IDE Eclipse for Android app development. As far as actually building your hard drive is a little small and could run out of space if you intend on building a bunch of different ROM's and kernels (A full set of AOSP builds is 80+ GB), and with 3 GB of memory compile times, will be pretty slow (For example to compile an AOSP build of Android 4.2 for the Nexus 4 would probably take around 5-8 hours, kernels will take anywhere from 1-2 hours probably) also if your laptop only has a single or dual core processor this will also effect compile times.
O.k. thanks for your reply sir.so could you recommend a Linux computer that I should buy as long as what specs should I get as far as how much memory,hard drive,etc.and out of curiosity what would a computer like this cost me.I want to thank you for your time and expertise. Take care!!!
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O.k. thanks for your reply sir.so could you recommend a Linux computer that I should buy as long as what specs should I get as far as how much memory,hard drive,etc.and out of curiosity what would a computer like this cost me.I want to thank you for your time and expertise. Take care!!!
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If your going to buy a pre-built computer with Linux pre-installed your options are limited in regards to what manufactures/boutique builders make desktops and laptops with Linux pre-installed. Here are a couple different configurations I came up with from System76 and ZaReason
Desktops
System76
Wild Dog Performance (wilp9)
Ubuntu 12.10 64 bit
5 Free GB of Ubuntu One Online Storage and Sync
3rd Generation Intel Core i5 3570K ( 3.40GHz - 6MB cache - 4 Cores )
16 GB – 4 x 4 GB - Crucial Sport Dual Channel DDR3
1 GB nVidia GeForce GTX 650
2.0 TB SATA III 6 Gb/s 64 MB Cache
2.0 TB SATA III 6 Gb/s 64 MB Cache
CD-RW / DVD-RW Dual Layer
Internal SD, Memory Stick, Compact Flash Card Reader
Internal PCI Express 802.11 bgn Wifi Card
1 Yr. Ltd. Warranty and 1 Yr. Technical Support
Total Cost: $1350
ZaReason
Limbo 5660
Linux Version: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
CPU: i5-3570K 3.4 GHz
Desktop Memory: 8 GB DDR3-1600
Desktop Hard Drive Bay1: 500GB 7200rpm
Desktop Hard Drive Bay2: 500 GB 7200rpm
Optical Drive: CD-RW/DVD-RW
Sound Card: Intel HD Audio
PCI Networking: Gigabit Ethernet
Video card: Nvidia GT 630
Power Supply: 350 watts
Warranty: 1 year
Total Cost: $1,100
Laptop
ZaReason
Verix 530
Linux Version: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS - Most Popular
Ivy Bridge Processor: i7-3630QM 2.4-3.4 GHz, 4 cores, 8 threads 2.4-3.4 GHz GHz
Laptop Memory: 8 GB DDR3-1600
Video Card: Nvidia GT 650M 2GB
Laptop HD: 750GB, 7200 RPM
Optical Drive: CD-RW / DVD-RW
WiFi #ZWF: Intel® Centrino® Wireless-N
1st Battery: 6-cell
AC Adapters: 1
Card Reader: MMC/SD/MS
Bluetooth: Included
Webcam: 1.3 megapixels
Warranty: 1 year
System76
Lemur Ultra (lemu4)
Ubuntu 12.10 64 bit
5 Free GB of Ubuntu One Online Storage and Sync
14.1" 720p High Definition LED Backlit Display ( 1366 x 768 )
Intel HD Graphics 4000
3rd Generation Intel Core i7-3630QM Processor ( 2.40GHz 6MB L3 Cache - 4 Cores plus Hyperthreading )
8 GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz
750 GB 7200 RPM SATA II
United States Keyboard Layout
8X DVD±R/RW/4X +DL Super-Multi Drive
Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6235 - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN + Bluetooth Combo Module +$20.00
1 Yr. Ltd. Warranty and 1 Yr. Technical Support
Total Cost: $840
Now if your want to build your own linux desktop here is a recommended configuration:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($25.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus V Gene Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($86.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($86.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($217.55 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec DF-35 ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($73.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B3ST/BLK/G/AS DVD/CD Writer ($29.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1191.43
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-27 17:49 EST-0500)
With Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64-bit (Make sure to select 64-bit from the download list). Let me know if you have any more questions.
Hey if I just wanted to build kernels my laptop would be alright wouldn't it.and are there any books,etc that you could recommend on building kernels.I want to start with small things like kernels and maybe apps. Thanks
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Mesaman2012 said:
Hey if I just wanted to build kernels my laptop would be alright wouldn't it.and are there any books,etc that you could recommend on building kernels.I want to start with small things like kernels and maybe apps. Thanks
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If your just building kernels and some apps then yes, your laptop should be fine. For kernel development it's important to at least have a solid understanding of C, the Linux Kernel, and embedded development for that I would recommend the following books:
Practical C Programming: 3rd Edition
Understanding the Linux Kernel Third Edition
Embedded Linux Primer: A Practical Real-World Approach (2nd Edition)
As far as book for app building goes make sure you understand Java and XML, I would check out these books:
Professional Android 4 Application Development
Head First Java (3rd Edition)
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It might work. But very less chance of working in machines less than 4gigs of ram. 4gigs of ram would be the minimum configuration.
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I do it with 1 gig of RAM and 18 gigs of SWAP. No joke
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My P765 shows 775 M.B. RAM. (See screenshot), LG claims 1 GB RAM. I know it is never exactly 1 GB but I have seen around 850-900 MB on other devices from other manufacturers with 1 GB RAM.
Mine shows 767 mb on CM10.1. I'm fairly certain our phone does have 1 gig of ram, but some of it is dedicated to the GPU.
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