ROM Manager and 1.2 kernels? - G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'd like to be able to use ROM Manager to make backups easier for my wife, and wouldn't mind it myself. We have the stock 4349 firmware that was pushed out a few weeks ago (then retracted), which means a 1.2 kernel.
I have no intention of actually flashing firmware using ROM Manager. I have cwm recovery working just fine, but if I install ROM Manager it can't find cwm and says I need to flash it. If I do flash it, that breaks recovery completely. I suspect the version flashed only works for 1.1 kernels.
Can anyone provide a method for using basic ROM Manager features with a 1.2 kernel?

Which version of CWM is Rom Manager asking you to flash?
I think when I first installed CWM it was version 2.5.1.1-bekit-0.8 however when I installed Rom Manager it did not recognize that version of CWM & it asked me to flash it to CWM 2.5.1.8 which I did & have had no issues with recovery whatsoever.
BTW I'm running one of the CyanogenMod 7 nightly builds.
Are you able to get to the recovery menu whatsoever?

EL TEJANO said:
I'm running one of the CyanogenMod 7 nightly builds.
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CyanogenMod 7 uses a 1.1 kernel, though, doesn't it?

mstevens said:
CyanogenMod 7 uses a 1.1 kernel, though, doesn't it?
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yup, after further reading this may be able to answer some of your quiestions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035983

EL TEJANO said:
yup, after further reading this may be able to answer some of your quiestions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035983
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Not really. That thread discusses recovery issues with the new stock firmware or derivatives of it that use a 1.2 kernel, but doesn't address ROM Manager at all. I have a version of cwm recovery working just fine with my 1.2 kernel. In general, roebeet has taken a solid position against using ROM Manager to flash firmware because it just doesn't work well on our tablets. I'm not trying to flash firmware with it. I just want to use it as a front end to ease the process of creating and managing nandroid backups.

You can create recoveries and restore them from cwm in recovery mode. I don't understand why you need rom manager. You can make a backup and then use a file explorer to re-name the backup whatever you want so your not guessing at dates or rom backed up.

The other alternative would be to use Titanium Backup For Root Users

Mantara said:
I don't understand why you need rom manager. You can make a backup and then use a file explorer to re-name the backup whatever you want so your not guessing at dates or rom backed up.
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Sorry you don't understand. I explained as well as I'm able (and as much as I'm going to) that I'm trying to make the process easier for another user, not myself. In general, it's simpler not to have to go through the steps of manually rebooting into recovery, creating the backup, then using a file explorer to manage the files created and it's way simpler for me not to have to teach and support all those steps.
Ultimately, though, this is not a thread about whether anyone needs ROM Manager. It's a thread about whether and how it's possible to use it with a 1.2 kernel.

EL TEJANO said:
The other alternative would be to use Titanium Backup For Root Users
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Is it possible to create a nandroid backup this way? I hadn't thought so. As far as I can tell, it's also not possible to use it (or at least the free version) to restore to a specific backup point as opposed to the most recent one.

mstevens said:
Is it possible to create a nandroid backup this way? I hadn't thought so. As far as I can tell, it's also not possible to use it (or at least the free version) to restore to a specific backup point as opposed to the most recent one.
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I've never really delved into the whole app itself, though I do use it to restore apps & data after flashing a ROM. However I did see an option that allows one to create a .zip file that can be flashed from the recovery menu, but whether it just does apps or the whole system as well beats me.
Just out of curiosity can you be for sure that flashing the recovery that Rom Manager asks for will in fact break recovery? I mean I myself can't say either way, but if you're willing to take that chance then give it a try. Just make sure to have NVFlash on hand. It's saved me many a heart ache that's for sure.

EL TEJANO said:
Just out of curiosity can you be for sure that flashing the recovery that Rom Manager asks for will in fact break recovery?
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Yes.
As noted in the initial post, "If I do flash it, that breaks recovery completely." I flashed it. It broke recovery. I nvflashed a different version and it restored cwm recovery but wouldn't work with ROM Manager.

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[Q] Where to next? Just rooted and downloaded Rom Manager

Hi,
Just took the plunge into rooting my MyTouch4G. Followed the rooting process via theunlockr.com and I'm now looking for a rom to flash.
I guess my real question is about rom manager / clockworkmod recovery. I was asked to check-mark "Erase Recovery." Then, I flashed it and was able to go into recovery mode. What exactly did this flashing do?
I understand this backed up my system that I can go back to later on but..
* Is this first flash of my stock rom then?
* Will this 'flash' always be available for me to go back to in case something happens?
* Where was this saved to? (I'd like to make sure this file is actually there. I'm a bit paranoid)
Sorry if this was a lot, I just want to be clear on things especially my backup files. Any help is much appreciated. Thanks.
Balut20 said:
Hi,
Just took the plunge into rooting my MyTouch4G. Followed the rooting process via theunlockr.com and I'm now looking for a rom to flash.
I guess my real question is about rom manager / clockworkmod recovery. I was asked to check-mark "Erase Recovery." Then, I flashed it and was able to go into recovery mode. What exactly did this flashing do?
I understand this backed up my system that I can go back to later on but..
* Is this first flash of my stock rom then?
* Will this 'flash' always be available for me to go back to in case something happens?
* Where was this saved to? (I'd like to make sure this file is actually there. I'm a bit paranoid)
Sorry if this was a lot, I just want to be clear on things especially my backup files. Any help is much appreciated. Thanks.
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1) You flashed clockwork mod's recovery. This replaced the stock recovery that you had.
2)Backups are stored in the clockwork floder on your sd card. (always keep the one you made when first rooting) but try not to have too many backups in the folder. It will take a lot of space on your sd card. It will always be available to you to flash back to. It is mainly used if you are going to un-root the device.
3) From this point you want to find a rom that fits you well. The Team Royal roms, for me, run the smoothest. If you like the stock myTouch look then flash the Royal Glacier rom.
4) Make a backup everytime you flash something new. Then go into the sd card and remove the ones you wont need anymore. JUST MAKE SURE TO KEEP THE ORIGINAL! They are all saved by date.
I hope this helps
Balut20 said:
Hi,
Just took the plunge into rooting my MyTouch4G. Followed the rooting process via theunlockr.com and I'm now looking for a rom to flash.
I guess my real question is about rom manager / clockworkmod recovery. I was asked to check-mark "Erase Recovery." Then, I flashed it and was able to go into recovery mode. What exactly did this flashing do?
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All you did was erase the stock recovery image and replace with one that is actually usable. Nothing to be worried about
Balut20 said:
I understand this backed up my system that I can go back to later on but..
* Is this first flash of my stock rom then?
* Will this 'flash' always be available for me to go back to in case something happens?
* Where was this saved to? (I'd like to make sure this file is actually there. I'm a bit paranoid)
Sorry if this was a lot, I just want to be clear on things especially my backup files. Any help is much appreciated. Thanks.
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When you do a nandroid back up it is stored on your SDCard. /Sdcard/Clockwork/backup/<the file name>. it will be there until you delete it. I would recommend burning that [your first] Nanadroid backup to a CD-ROM incase you should ever need it. That way you know you will always have it.
I would HIGHLY recommend following the link in my signature to flash 3.0.0.6 recovery image before doing anything else. There are 2 different style ROMs floating Gingerbread [2.3] and FroYo [2.2], the recovery images can get goofy. But the 3.0.0.6 will solve both problems.
neidlinger said:
I would HIGHLY recommend following the link in my signature to flash 3.0.0.6 recovery image before doing anything else. There are 2 different style ROMs floating Gingerbread [2.3] and FroYo [2.2], the recovery images can get goofy. But the 3.0.0.6 will solve both problems.
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i agree!!! it works wonders
also don't forget this thread for TRUE ROOT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
and as neidlinger stated, make sure you flash clockwork 3.0.0.6 unless you're planning on flashing CM 7 nightlies/ RC
I reccomend royalthunder by teamroyal
It is by far the fastest rom with good stability, performance and best battery life.
It also has a cool bootanimation with a lightning noise and includes smartass/faux's kernal to OC upto 1.8 ghz xD
i could be wrong, but it doesn't sound like he made a backup. It sounds like he just flashed his recovery and then booted into it after.
Make sure you go to backup/restore in recovery and actually create a backup before you start flashing ROMs.
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also don't forget this thread for TRUE ROOT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
and as neidlinger stated, make sure you flash clockwork 3.0.0.6 unless you're planning on flashing CM 7 nightlies/ RC
I reccomend royalthunder by teamroyal
It is by far the fastest rom with good stability, performance and best battery life.
It also has a cool bootanimation with a lightning noise and includes smartass/faux's kernal to OC upto 1.8 ghz xD
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Is RoyalThunder 2.3?
Balut20 said:
Hi,
Just took the plunge into rooting my MyTouch4G. Followed the rooting process via theunlockr.com and I'm now looking for a rom to flash.
I guess my real question is about rom manager / clockworkmod recovery. I was asked to check-mark "Erase Recovery." Then, I flashed it and was able to go into recovery mode. What exactly did this flashing do?
I understand this backed up my system that I can go back to later on but..
* Is this first flash of my stock rom then?
* Will this 'flash' always be available for me to go back to in case something happens?
* Where was this saved to? (I'd like to make sure this file is actually there. I'm a bit paranoid)
Sorry if this was a lot, I just want to be clear on things especially my backup files. Any help is much appreciated. Thanks.
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I'm actually in the same boat, just a few steps further. I used ROM Manager to flash Clockwork and did a Nandroid backup If you haven't backed up, do that before continuing, and I'd recommend keeping a copy of the stock backup on a hard drive or pc as well as on your sd card (from the SD card, the backup will be in the clockwork folder, mine was about 700 MB).
The problem with ROM Manager is that it gave me CW 3.0.0.5, so I followed the guide to get 3.0.0.6, which worked really well. After that, I flashed Faux's kernel so I could overclock and have better battery managers.
orangemonster said:
Is RoyalThunder 2.3?
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Same question. Not sure what ROM to get because I keep hearing about stability and bugs (wifi not working, etc.) So, I guess what is royal thunder like?
RoyalThunder is a 2.2.1 Froyo ROM port of the Verizon HTC Thunder Bolt. I run this ROM and I have to say its one the best ROMs out. I also recommend the other TeamRoyal ROMs.
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[Q] Do everything with stock recovery?

I have been reading all the threads for several days. It may be a dumb question. But I am really curious if we can do everything only with stock 1.1 recovery since CWM .8 does not update bootloader and bring potential danger to soft-brick your gTab when future 3991 based builds include the new bootloader from VS. As far as I have found, flashing a ROM or kernel does not necessarily need CWM to do it. But with CWM we can do data wiping, which stock recovery is not able to. Calkulin posted a Format_All.zip file in his thread. It can do a wipe. I guess it works with CWM just like flashing any ROM or update. But I am not sure if I can use stock recovery to flash it to do a data wipe. Or does anyone know a good way to wipe/format data with only stock recovery?
Of course, one can use stock recovery to flash safely while use CWM to wipe the data. It is just because I am lazy and want to stick with stock recovery.
This came up in the Woot! forums as well, and it's my doing (I'll take the hit for it).
This is my suggestion: Use clockworkmod for all your day-to-day stuff (like backups and restores, SD partitioning and data wipes etc.). However, when you flash a firmware, you should look at that firmware, and the dev's post if that exists, to see if a bootloader update is required. In most cases here, that is NOT the case. However, if Viewsonic sticks to their guns and releases a new firmware with a new required bootloader, then the userbase needs to tread lightly as you might get a soft-brick if you're not careful.
I'm concerned about this because their UAT (build 3991) was like this, AND because the Notion Ink Adam (a sister device) is having these issues at this exact moment - their last update had a bootloader update and clockworkmod users were soft-bricking their devices because of it.
In TNT Lite 4.3.x and gADAM 1.3.x+. I added something called a "Recovery Pack". This allows the user to toggle between standard recovery and clockworkmod, as needed. I also create a standalone package if you wanted to add it to a 1.1-based rooted mod. This way, I (and everyone else) can use clockworkmod for day-to-day, but have the ability to toggle back to standard recovery as needed. I think this is a good balance, but users just need to be aware of the issues and when to use each.
roebeet said:
This came up in the Woot! forums as well, and it's my doing (I'll take the hit for it).
This is my suggestion: Use clockworkmod for all your day-to-day stuff (like backups and restores, SD partitioning and data wipes etc.). However, when you flash a firmware, you should look at that firmware, and the dev's post if that exists, to see if a bootloader update is required. In most cases here, that is NOT the case. However, if Viewsonic sticks to their guns and releases a new firmware with a new required bootloader, then the userbase needs to tread lightly as you might get a soft-brick if you're not careful.
I'm concerned about this because their UAT (build 3991) was like this, AND because the Notion Ink Adam (a sister device) is having these issues at this exact moment - their last update had a bootloader update and clockworkmod users were soft-bricking their devices because of it.
In TNT Lite 4.3.x and gADAM 1.3.x+. I added something called a "Recovery Pack". This allows the user to toggle between standard recovery and clockworkmod, as needed. I also create a standalone package if you wanted to add it to a 1.1-based rooted mod. This way, I (and everyone else) can use clockworkmod for day-to-day, but have the ability to toggle back to standard recovery as needed. I think this is a good balance, but users just need to be aware of the issues and when to use each.
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Thanks a lot, Roebeet! for everything you have done for this community. I have saved your "recovery pack".
Can Standard Recovery update kernels as well?
vegeetz said:
Can Standard Recovery update kernels as well?
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I think so,TMK. Just rename the whatever kernal.zip to "update.zip" and add recovery folder with command file in it and flash .....
Seems standard recovery is my best bet if I want to mod a little and keep things as close to original as possible.
Looking to do TNT 4.3.2 with Clemsen v7 tomorrow.
vegeetz said:
Can Standard Recovery update kernels as well?
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Check with the developer - if they say "clockworkmod only" then you should follow their instructions, imo. My guess is that they only test with cwm, but that's only a guess.
vegeetz said:
Seems standard recovery is my best bet if I want to mod a little and keep things as close to original as possible.
Looking to do TNT 4.3.2 with Clemsen v7 tomorrow.
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I will probably go with Calkulin's 1.1 and clemsen v6. It looks Calkulin's one is the fastesd so far.
roebeet said:
I also create a standalone package if you wanted to add it to a 1.1-based rooted mod.
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Roebeet
Did a search and found everything but link to the "standalone Recovery Pack). Please provide again.
Rumbleweed said:
Roebeet
Did a search and found everything but link to the "standalone Recovery Pack). Please provide again.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005080

TWRP & Rom Manager

I recently rooted my phone and flashed the TWRP recovery for it as it was recommended on IRC. One of my favorite apps when I had my rooted 4G was Rom Manager. It allowed me to easily backup and flash roms whenever I pleased.
Is there something similar to that for TWRP? Rom Manager requires having Clockwork Mod recovery to use. Also what are the advantages / disadvantages if any to either recovery?
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I like doing everything manually from recovery myself. The advantages of TWRP of CWM is the ease of access of certain options in the menus. I love having the wipe cache and dalvik cache as an option in the install zip menu. You can also change the theme easily. I like the backup options in the Nandroid menu and the fact that it backs up your wimax partition. There are many advantages in TWRP over CWM imo. It is designed for the Evo 3D natively and CWM is a port, so it's options are not designed for the Evo 3D. TWRP is just laid out better and you don't have to scroll through the work no 8 times just to wipe cache. Rom Manager is nice, but even when I did use CWM on my NS4G, I never, ever used the app because I just feel safer doing things manually.
All this is a matter of opinion, so it ultimately is up to you. Maybe the ultimate and best reason to shoose TWRP over CWM is because when you go into the Wipe Menu there is a roll of toilet paper in the background.
There working on something similar to rom manager
Instead of making a new thread ill go ahead and ask here. I'm currently doing a Titanium Backup of my apps / data. I'm also going to do a nandroid backup using TWRP since I've decided to dive into a rom. Are there any other recommended steps I should take before I flash? I hear talk of kernals but know nothing about them.
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To be more de specific this is the rom I plan on using.
[ROM][8-21-11][2.3.4] gbsense-e3d-deck [0.5]
I read in his thread there was only 2 kernals for 2.3.4, stock and another custom that's floating around.
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If you are going to a 2.3.4 Rom I would stick with the stock kernel that comes with the Rom for now. Until HTC releases the source for the 2.3.4 kernel we won't have any custom kernels to flash. I would suggest searching here and on Google what is a Linux kernel and what benefits a custom kernel can give you in Android.
Also, if you flash an incompatible kernel it will at least break things like wifi, sms, mms and other functions of the phone and at most completely make your phone unbootable and you will have to nandroid restore.
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If you are going to a 2.3.4 Rom I would stick with the stock kernel that comes with the Rom for now. Until HTC releases the source for the 2.3.4 kernel we won't have any custom kernels to flash. I would suggest searching here and on Google what is a Linux kernel and what benefits a custom kernel can give you in Android.
Also, if you flash an incompatible kernel it will at least break things like wifi, sms, mms and other functions of the phone and at most completely make your phone unbootable and you will have to nandroid restore.
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So in other words i can just flash this Rom and i'm good to go.
Yep. The Rom's always include a kernel. If you want a custom kernel, that is a separate flash. Some Rom's include a custom kernel and some include stock kernels. I will say that I am using a Rom based off the HTC 2.3.4 update and has the stock kernel and it is actually very smooth and runs fast. I really am not sure overclocking is necessary on this phone, especially after all of the Sprint and HTC bloat are taken out. Though I can understand why people want and do overclock, but seriously benchmarks don't mean shiz to me. How the phone runs in real time use and how the battery performs are my greatest concerns.
I had the same question as the OP. It looks like i won't be using rom manager. Can you point me to a step-by-step on rom flashing using TWRP? Thanks. All google searches seem to return flashing "how to's" using CWM Rec.
meccadon123 said:
I had the same question as the OP. It looks like i won't be using rom manager. Can you point me to a step-by-step on rom flashing using TWRP? Thanks. All google searches seem to return flashing "how to's" using CWM Rec.
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curious about this too, i've searched here and googled with no luck. everything i find only explains step by step with rom manager/clockwork
i'm assuming you just enter recovery, select install zip -> choose zip to flash -> select your custom rom.zip from the list and then let it do it's thing.
just want to be sure so hopefully someone can confirm or post proper steps.
meccadon123 said:
Can you point me to a step-by-step on rom flashing using TWRP? Thanks. All google searches seem to return flashing "how to's" using CWM Rec.
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finally found someone who would actually respond. not step by step per say, but i you read this post you should get the idea
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16982135&postcount=4402
meccadon123 said:
I had the same question as the OP. It looks like i won't be using rom manager. Can you point me to a step-by-step on rom flashing using TWRP? Thanks. All google searches seem to return flashing "how to's" using CWM Rec.
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jorts said:
curious about this too, i've searched here and googled with no luck. everything i find only explains step by step with rom manager/clockwork
i'm assuming you just enter recovery, select install zip -> choose zip to flash -> select your custom rom.zip from the list and then let it do it's thing.
just want to be sure so hopefully someone can confirm or post proper steps.
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Assuming you already have S-OFF you just need this file http://www.techerrata.com/android/twrp/PG86IMG-twrp-shooter-1.0.3.zip
*Download flashable zip from the OP and rename it "PG86IMG.zip" (without the quotes)
*Place in the root of the sdcard
*Power off phone (make sure you turn off hot boot or pull the battery when it's off)
*Power on the phone holding power and volume down
*Follow the prompts to flash it
*Delete .zip (PG86IMG.zip) after booting
*Enjoy
(Credit to ViViDboarder)
If you have any other questions head to
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Couple of questions regarding ROMs and such.

Okay. Couple days ago, i got my new Samsung Galaxy S II. Fell in love with it. I previously had a Vibrant, but that met an unfortunate and violent demise. On the vibrant I hadn't been doing anything involving roms and such because i'd tried once, and completely fried the phone. LOL.
I managed to root my phone, and from what I've read, I didn't do the best method. What I did was get an unsecure kernel, and flashed that, then used a 1-click root type thing to root it. So one of my questions is, my clockwork mod isn't working, what's wrong with it? I downloaded ROM Manager, and flashed CWM. But when i reboot into recovery, i get the stock Samsung recovery screen. How can I get this to work?
And another question, is about roms such as Cyanogen mod. I really wanna get it. (I wont until I get CWM working, though.) And I'm just wondering. If I were to just go to ROM Manager, and flash cyanogen, would it work, or do i need to do more to my phone to be able to put on custom roms? I've never understood the concept of roms vs kernels vs firmware vs whatever else.
And if it matters, Samsung Galaxy S II, Android 2.3.3, rooted using SuperOneClick.
P.S Anything else that I should considering doing/putting onto my phone? And thanks in advance for halping.
Gutana said:
Okay. Couple days ago, i got my new Samsung Galaxy S II. Fell in love with it. I previously had a Vibrant, but that met an unfortunate and violent demise. On the vibrant I hadn't been doing anything involving roms and such because i'd tried once, and completely fried the phone. LOL.
I managed to root my phone, and from what I've read, I didn't do the best method. What I did was get an unsecure kernel, and flashed that, then used a 1-click root type thing to root it. So one of my questions is, my clockwork mod isn't working, what's wrong with it? I downloaded ROM Manager, and flashed CWM. But when i reboot into recovery, i get the stock Samsung recovery screen. How can I get this to work?
And another question, is about roms such as Cyanogen mod. I really wanna get it. (I wont until I get CWM working, though.) And I'm just wondering. If I were to just go to ROM Manager, and flash cyanogen, would it work, or do i need to do more to my phone to be able to put on custom roms? I've never understood the concept of roms vs kernels vs firmware vs whatever else.
And if it matters, Samsung Galaxy S II, Android 2.3.3, rooted using SuperOneClick.
P.S Anything else that I should considering doing/putting onto my phone? And thanks in advance for halping.
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Okay, don't take this the wrong way, but it seems you're a bit lacking regarding knowledge about this phone... It'd pay to do your research beforehand in the SGS2 forum, read the FAQs, etc.
Okay, first off, all I can say is, go back to stock. Go flash a stock Samsung ROM for the device. Then, go into Chainfire's CF-Root Kernel thread, and download the appropriate kernel, and flash it using ODIN. After you've done that, you'll have ClockworkMod, and you'll be rooted. It is recommended that you flash another kernel though, after gaining root, as all the CF-Root kernel does it install ClockworkMod, and root the device. Personally, I recommend SiyahKernel.
If you need more detail or have any more questions, feel free to send me a PM.
Thanks,
screamworks.
screamworks said:
Okay, don't take this the wrong way, but it seems you're a bit lacking regarding knowledge about this phone... It'd pay to do your research beforehand in the SGS2 forum, read the FAQs, etc.
Okay, first off, all I can say is, go back to stock. Go flash a stock Samsung ROM for the device. Then, go into Chainfire's CF-Root Kernel thread, and download the appropriate kernel, and flash it using ODIN. After you've done that, you'll have ClockworkMod, and you'll be rooted. It is recommended that you flash another kernel though, after gaining root, as all the CF-Root kernel does it install ClockworkMod, and root the device. Personally, I recommend SiyahKernel.
If you need more detail or have any more questions, feel free to send me a PM.
Thanks,
screamworks.
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Alright, I did what you said. I went to stock 2.3.4, used CF-root. And now about SiyahKernel, what are the advantages of it? And is there something wrong with just staying with the CF-Root kernel?
And as of where I am now, with just root and CWM, would i be able to switch ROMs and such?
Gutana said:
Alright, I did what you said. I went to stock 2.3.4, used CF-root. And now about SiyahKernel, what are the advantages of it? And is there something wrong with just staying with the CF-Root kernel?
And as of where I am now, with just root and CWM, would i be able to switch ROMs and such?
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With a rooted device you'll be able to flash trough Odin or CMW recovery any rom you like.
Siyah kernel gives you a faster and more battery efficient phone and lets you set your own Voltage/ speed the processor has to use see this for the latest info
http://www.gokhanmoral.com/ and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1263838
DirkTeur Velserbroncx said:
With a rooted device you'll be able to flash trough Odin or CMW recovery any rom you like.
Siyah kernel gives you a faster and more battery efficient phone and lets you set your own Voltage/ speed the processor has to use see this for the latest info
http://www.gokhanmoral.com/ and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1263838
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Alright, so i'm pretty much ready to go? Yayayayay.
And would you recommend any roms for me? XD
Gutana said:
Alright, I did what you said. I went to stock 2.3.4, used CF-root. And now about SiyahKernel, what are the advantages of it? And is there something wrong with just staying with the CF-Root kernel?
And as of where I am now, with just root and CWM, would i be able to switch ROMs and such?
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SiyahKernel has a lot of advantages and improvements of CF-Root, which provides null, if I'm correct. Go check out the SiyahKernel thread in Original Development for details.
Yes, as stated, you can use CWM by itself to switch ROMs. Just remember that if you're switching ROMs (as opposed to performing a flash to a newer version of the same ROM), to perform a factor reset / wipe data, wipe cache, and wipe Dalvik cache (Advanced > wipe Dalvik cache) in ClockworkMod first.
Gutana said:
Alright, so i'm pretty much ready to go? Yayayayay.
And would you recommend any roms for me? XD
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For a beginninger, I can't recommend MIUI highly enough. You could go with GalnetMIUI, which is a variant, but I personally prefer the official MIUI build. If you're looking for a more, 'pure' experience, go with CyanogenMod 7.1 stable.
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SiyahKernel has a lot of advantages and improvements of CF-Root, which provides null, if I'm correct. Go check out the SiyahKernel thread in Original Development for details.
Yes, as stated, you can use CWM by itself to switch ROMs. Just remember that if you're switching ROMs (as opposed to performing a flash to a newer version of the same ROM), to perform a factor reset / wipe data, wipe cache, and wipe Dalvik cache (Advanced > wipe Dalvik cache) in ClockworkMod first.
For a beginninger, I can't recommend MIUI highly enough. You could go with GalnetMIUI, which is a variant, but I personally prefer the official MIUI build. If you're looking for a more, 'pure' experience, go with CyanogenMod 7.1 stable.
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Alright, one more question, sorry for the nooby-ness. Haha.
So going from my phone to for example Cyanogen, I'd backup in CWM, and Titanium backup (Or does CWM backup like, EVERYTHING?) and then factory reset, flash the rom using odin, and then use titanium backup to get my apps and settings back? orwhat.
Gutana said:
Alright, one more question, sorry for the nooby-ness. Haha.
So going from my phone to for example Cyanogen, I'd backup in CWM, and Titanium backup (Or does CWM backup like, EVERYTHING?) and then factory reset, flash the rom using odin, and then use titanium backup to get my apps and settings back? orwhat.
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CWM backup (called a NANDroid backup), backs up everything. If you perform a NANDroid back, there's no need to perform a backup in Titanium Backup - it creates a full image of your system (the advantage to TB though, is that you can backup all your download apps and settings, then install the new ROM, and restore the backed up apps - If you restore a NANDdroid backup, it'll restore the old ROM, exactly as it was when the backup was made).
So yes, the installation process is, for CWM: copy the ROM.zip to your phone, then boot into CWM recovery. Hit the 'factory reset / wipe data' option, the 'wipe cache' option, and then go to Advanced, and hit the 'wipe Dalvik cache' option. After that, choose 'install ZIP from SDCARD', and choose your ROM.zip. After it finishes installing, just hit 'reboot system now', and you're good to go!
Usually, it's not required to use ODIN to flash a new ROM, unless there's a problem with the recovery.
All that said, it pays to read the thread for the ROM beforehand, as sometimes when moving from ROM to ROM (especially from stock), there's a few small things that may be required, like flashing the ROM twice, or whatever
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CWM backup (called a NANDroid backup), backs up everything. If you perform a NANDroid back, there's no need to perform a backup in Titanium Backup - it creates a full image of your system (the advantage to TB though, is that you can backup all your download apps and settings, then install the new ROM, and restore the backed up apps - If you restore a NANDdroid backup, it'll restore the old ROM, exactly as it was when the backup was made).
So yes, the installation process is, for CWM: copy the ROM.zip to your phone, then boot into CWM recovery. Hit the 'factory reset / wipe data' option, the 'wipe cache' option, and then go to Advanced, and hit the 'wipe Dalvik cache' option. After that, choose 'install ZIP from SDCARD', and choose your ROM.zip. After it finishes installing, just hit 'reboot system now', and you're good to go!
Usually, it's not required to use ODIN to flash a new ROM, unless there's a problem with the recovery.
All that said, it pays to read the thread for the ROM beforehand, as sometimes when moving from ROM to ROM (especially from stock), there's a few small things that may be required, like flashing the ROM twice, or whatever
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Alright, i got that done. I've tried both MIUI and Cyanogen, and both are working and lookin wonderful. But the problem is I dont get data on either one. I've tried reflashing, rebooting, factory reset. Idunno what else to try. Do you know what could be causing this?
Gutana said:
Alright, i got that done. I've tried both MIUI and Cyanogen, and both are working and lookin wonderful. But the problem is I dont get data on either one. I've tried reflashing, rebooting, factory reset. Idunno what else to try. Do you know what could be causing this?
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Check your APN settings (should be somewhere in Settings under mobile network or whatever). Look your's up online ('APN settings carrier y, country z), and if they're not correct, add them in.
screamworks said:
Check your APN settings (should be somewhere in Settings under mobile network or whatever). Look your's up online ('APN settings carrier y, country z), and if they're not correct, add them in.
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Got everything working, thank you very much. Thanked every one of your posts
And I've asked too many questions for one person in one thread, I happen to have one more. How can I get the Android Market on Cyanogenmod? I downloaded build 115, and there wasn't a market, so i'll be using MIUI till I get that fixed. ><
Gutana said:
Got everything working, thank you very much. Thanked every one of your posts
And I've asked too many questions for one person in one thread, I happen to have one more. How can I get the Android Market on Cyanogenmod? I downloaded build 115, and there wasn't a market, so i'll be using MIUI till I get that fixed. ><
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You're more than welcome
If you've got any other questions, feel free to PM me
With CyanogenMod, there's a bit of a story to it, but basically, they're not allowed to package Market, Gmail, Maps, etc. with the ROM, so you need to download a zip file called Gapps and flash it in CWM Recovery, you can find it here. You don't need to wipe anything when flashing this.
Also, build #115 isn't the latest, build #117 is (in fact, there's another, even more current one, but there's really nothing to it), but I don't believe there's any major changes.
screamworks said:
You're more than welcome
If you've got any other questions, feel free to PM me
With CyanogenMod, there's a bit of a story to it, but basically, they're not allowed to package Market, Gmail, Maps, etc. with the ROM, so you need to download a zip file called Gapps and flash it in CWM Recovery, you can find it here. You don't need to wipe anything when flashing this.
Also, build #115 isn't the latest, build #117 is (in fact, there's another, even more current one, but there's really nothing to it), but I don't believe there's any major changes.
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Hey, I was having troubles messaging you, since it didn't show anything in the sent box, i assumed it didnt go through. So i guess ill be still asking you on here.
So about Cyanogen, which build is the best? And if i'm going from one build to another, like from 115, to 116, would i still have to do a complete wipe? And any other roms besides MIUI and Cyanogen you recommend? cause MIUI is giving me and couldn't generate md5 errors, and i cant restore to it, and i hate starting off without it set up how i like it. D: and yeah, thanks.
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Hey, I was having troubles messaging you, since it didn't show anything in the sent box, i assumed it didnt go through. So i guess ill be still asking you on here.
So about Cyanogen, which build is the best? And if i'm going from one build to another, like from 115, to 116, would i still have to do a complete wipe? And any other roms besides MIUI and Cyanogen you recommend? cause MIUI is giving me and couldn't generate md5 errors, and i cant restore to it, and i hate starting off without it set up how i like it. D: and yeah, thanks.
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I only just the message 12 hours ago, if that helps?
Usually, your best bet is to go with the latest build, which you can get here. If it's stability you're looking for, go with the stable build, instead of nightlies.
Personally, out of all ROMs I've tried, I could only ever stand MIUI and CyanogenMod - but even then, MIUI started to annoy me with little things here and there. I think I'll be sticking with CyanogenMod for awhile. So, I'm not really the best authority on that. Just try some different ones, and see what appeals to you the most

[Q] just need some confirmation before I flash

Hello everyone, I recently installed philZ cwm touch recovery and did backups and all that good stuff and I think Im ready to install cyanogenmod.
And before you ask, I cant use the cyanogenmod installer as it crashes every time I try to use it. I am going to try to flash cm10.1.3-i9100 which is the latest stable release, using cwm and not odin (I dont trust my usb cable). I was wondering since philz touch is just a stock kernal, do I need to flash a different one? I am running the original stock rom (jb 4.1.2) and have downloaded the cm10.1.x / android 4.2.2 google apps. I am just wondering if these are all the right files for my i9100? I thought it would be better to be safe, then coming back to the forums crying about how i messed it up (which I still might do if it does go bad) so thanks to all you smart people for helping in advance -Liam
Just flash it through Philz's recovery and that's all.Don't forget to do a nandroid backup.
Just in case
TheImpossibleEnemy said:
Just flash it through Philz's recovery and that's all.Don't forget to do a nandroid backup.
Just in case
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Iv done 2 backups (one on the external, one on the internal just to be sure) but I was wondering if I have all the right files, like if my kernal is good to go, whether the google apps are the right ones (although I'm pretty sure they're the right ones for cm10.1.3) and whether or not I am forgetting something, thanks. Sorry if I wasn't clear in my post, like I said I just want to be sure
Kernel is not important in this case.All you need is a proper recovery,which you already have.Just make sure the rom is for i9100,+compatible gapps and that's pretty much all.Don't forget to do all needed wipes and make a backup of your EFS in Philz's CWM before flashing.
Enjoy

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