For anyone who's NOT on a LEAKED version of 2.1, you can still Root.
We have verified that the PB00IMG.zip goes through its checking process, and asks to update. It looks very much like the Root PB00IMG.zip IS able to be flashed over any phones that went from 1.5 to OTA 2.1.
So anyone who's holding back on going from 1.5 to OTA 2.1, for fear that they wont' be able to root, let your fears disappear.
Special thanks to ssgtob1 from AndroidForums.com who bravely tested booting up in HBOOT with the Root PB00IMG.zip on his SD card.
Thank you for your help, and anyone who DIDN'T leak, we STILL have you covered for Root. Go ahead and follow any set of normal directions for 1.5 to root, and you should be all set to Root your phone.
FOR LEAKERS: Some exploits are still being explored. I hope something comes to fruition. You will know as soon as anyone knows. I promise.
Thanks,
Paul
Peed on yet again leaking sucks. All I know is patience is a virtue I will forever remember to have after this phone. Guess im going to update to v3 leak from v1 since cannot update.
edgeupgx said:
Peed on yet again leaking sucks. All I know is patience is a virtue I will forever remember to have after this phone. Guess im going to update to v3 leak from v1 since cannot update.
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Maybe you should continue to be patient with v1?.....
So, Ive updated to the OTA and did not have root on my 1.5 when I updated. Are you saying that even though I have done this that I can still root? If so, which tutorial/directions should I follow?
Don't worry, two things have been confirmed.
First the OTA will not work with the leaked ROMs installed.
Second, the OTA is exactly the same as the 2.1 leak v3.
This was confirmed on Android-forum by someone that took the time to compare every single file and CRC the binaries. The only difference was that the leaked ROMs use a different bootloader to install as they did and the actual OS and apps are exactly the same so if you got leak v3 you got the OTA.
The OTA won't install because you are already running it. The only down side is you still cannot root, but otherwise you have as good or better than the OTA.
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So far, I have not come across a cooked ROM for root that does not have bugs or that functions as well as the OTA (which also has a few bugs). I'm hoping that the development will continue or even increase so we will have better ROMs soon.
xtremeskier97 said:
So, Ive updated to the OTA and did not have root on my 1.5 when I updated. Are you saying that even though I have done this that I can still root? If so, which tutorial/directions should I follow?
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The exact directions, as if you were 1.5. You have a few options. If you have Windows, an easy way to go about it is this:\
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=661413
The manual method does, literally, the EXACT same thing, it's just a teeny bit more technical, but you learn a lot about your phone in the process (that you wouldn't have learned using the Eris Master Application). If you're pretty technical (or using Mac OSX or Unix or Linux) then I would use the following tutorial (except, if you have Unix/Linux, you don't have to worry about drivers, and it's "./adb" instead of "adb" when you're running commands).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=647707
Good luck!
DigitalMD said:
So far, I have not come across a cooked ROM for root that does not have bugs or that functions as well as the OTA (which also has a few bugs). I'm hoping that the development will continue or even increase so we will have better ROMs soon.
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I must vouch for Ivan's Eris_Official 1.0 being as bugless as the OTA, in my experience. This guy's been cooking ROMs for all kinds of phones for YEARS, and knows what he's doing. 100% clean, looks like stock, and is a lot faster.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652044
Root after 2.1 OTA upgrade from 1.5
OK,
Let me get this straight and understand it crystal clear. Are you saying that an Eris with 1.5 without root can get the 2.1 OTA upgrade and later get root? Has anyone done this? Hoping it's true as I just got the OTA and installed it based on this thread. BTW, 2.1 .......NICE!
Bill
bczygan said:
OK,
Let me get this straight and understand it crystal clear. Are you saying that an Eris with 1.5 without root can get the 2.1 OTA upgrade and later get root? Has anyone done this?
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Yes it is possible, and yes it has been done. I believe if you got the 2.1 OTA from a stock 1.5, the documented root method will work fine.
If you got 2.1 from any of the three leaks, you are stuck without root.
(Someone correct me if I'm wrong though! )
Add on question about rooting the OTA 2.1
I amn in the process of trying to root from the 2.1 OTA. Am I correct in thinking that following the walkthrough, that I will be replacing the OTA with another ROM which is functionally the same, but not the same exact one? Can I later redo the OTA from a file? Will this eliminate root?
Bill
bczygan said:
I amn in the process of trying to root from the 2.1 OTA. Am I correct in thinking that following the walkthrough, that I will be replacing the OTA with another ROM which is functionally the same, but not the same exact one? Can I later redo the OTA from a file? Will this eliminate root?
Bill
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Following the walkthrough OR using the Eris Master Application (if you have Windows) will work JUST fine. (even though those things say you NEED 1.5, that's not exactly true, because OTA 2.1 works as well).
Once you Root, put a Recovery on there, then flash a nice ROM from Recovery, you will flash a ROM (like Ivan's Eris_Official_1.0) that has AT LEAST the exact same functionality as the OTA.
Later, if you want, you can follow the method documented on http://www.androidforums.com/htc-droid-eris/ in the All Things Root section, and click on AcidBath's thread, stickied at the top (then scroll about one page down) for DOWNGRADING from Root 2.1 back to Stock 1.5 (yes it is possible), then follow the tutorial for applying the MANUAL OTA update.
This will take you back from Rooted 2.1 back to OTA 2.1, if you should so choose (though I can't think of a good reason why you'd do that).
Once you have root, and you're using things like WiFi tether and so on, I'm guessing you won't go back. But the option IS available. And yes, if you go back to 1.5 then manual OTA, you will lose root, but you can GET IT BACK the same way you're getting it right now.
pkopalek - Very good info.
I'd just like to add that I manual upgraded from 1.5 to OTA 2.1 and hated it,
and found it possible to go from OTA 2.1 back down to 1.5..and I found the
process to be much easier than the manual OTA install.
I'd like to root now but after reading your instructions, (android forums site is
down right now), I'm still confused.
Root after 2.1 OTA upgrade from 1.5
I did the root last night. Took a while, but everything worked good. I now have recovery and can try other ROMS. Not quite sure yet how to access root or use su. But I love the wireless tethering. Using it right now. Used to use a wired tether program but this is better. I did lose all my apps and settings, but will rebuild it all. I don't think I'll use the OTA again. Love having root. Thanks to all who make this possible.
Bill
BlazeD OnE said:
pkopalek - Very good info.
I'd just like to add that I manual upgraded from 1.5 to OTA 2.1 and hated it,
and found it possible to go from OTA 2.1 back down to 1.5..and I found the
process to be much easier than the manual OTA install.
I'd like to root now but after reading your instructions, (android forums site is
down right now), I'm still confused.
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Rooting, you just follow the directions for Rooting a 1.5 phone. If you're on the OTA, that's fine, if you're on 1.5, that's fine. The directions are 100% exactly the same.
The link I posted above was for DOWNGRADING from Root 2.1 to normal 1.5. Ignore that. Here's where you want to be:
The Eris Master App works GREAT if you have Windows:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=661413
Or do the normal manual Rooting method (it's exactly the same thing, just the App does the commands for you, or you do it yourself -- this is the method that I use, every time):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=647707
I suggest Ivan's Eris_Official 1.0 for a ROM, instead of 0.8t2 or whatever is suggested in that thread (that thread is kind of old).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652044
bczygan said:
I did the root last night. Took a while, but everything worked good. I now have recovery and can try other ROMS. Not quite sure yet how to access root or use su. But I love the wireless tethering. Using it right now. Used to use a wired tether program but this is better. I did lose all my apps and settings, but will rebuild it all. I don't think I'll use the OTA again. Love having root. Thanks to all who make this possible.
Bill
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I recommend Ivan's Eris_Official 1.0 for you too. Download and put it on your SD card.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652044
Boot your phone into recovery, do Backup/Restore > nand backup (to back up your phone) then go back to main menu (volume down), Wipe > Wipe factory/data reset, wipe Dalvik Cache (both), back to main menu (volume down), Flash Zip from SD Card, flash Ivan's Eris_Official.
You'll be doing great.
ALSO:
anyone who's rooting and flashing these ROMs should also be flashing the latest Radio that comes with the OTA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6469408&postcount=113
yeah i rooted from the OTA and it worked fine it just took a bit longer than it should've because i had some trouble doing it on a mac but i figured it out eventually.
just follow the instructions and you should be fine *only if you are the 2.1 OTA or 1.5*
Hi! I'm on 2.1 OTA, and my droid Eris has never been modified in any way at a software or hardware level. I am running HBOOT 1.47.0000. Whenever I use the PB00IMG.ZIP (of which I have checked the MD5 sums) and reboot into the bootloader screen (The one with "HBOOT" and searches for images) I always get "No Image or wrong image!" and am never presented with the option of "push activate" as a result. Any tips? Yes, the PB00IMG.ZIP is in the root of the SD card. I can't really think that I'm doing anything wrong, as I've read the instructions a billion times, and checked every site with instructions, to see if there was any variation in methods.
Any input or tips (other than "don't root your phone" ) would be greatly appreciated!
It Works!!!
I gave up root for the OTA...never again. I'll 2nd (3rd, 4th, etc) if you are on the OTA you can get root. Thank God...so glad to be back. ;-)
Ok so I have what might be a very elementary question. And I apologize in advance if this is not the right thread or just generally a dumb question.
Is there any advantage or disadvantage to rooting from 2.1 OTA vs. 1.5? Also is there any real difference between my phone rooted from 1.5 and my wife's phone rooted from 2.1?
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Ok so I have what might be a very elementary question. And I apologize in advance if this is not the right thread or just generally a dumb question.
Is there any advantage or disadvantage to rooting from 2.1 OTA vs. 1.5? Also is there any real difference between my phone rooted from 1.5 and my wife's phone rooted from 2.1?
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As far as I understand it, after rooting, you will have both of the phones on 2.1 rooted.
Is leak 3 the same as the ota update that was released? If not can someone tell me how to update from v3 to OTA
next time just search but here is the explanation:
technically they are the same thing except the OTA has a different bootloader from v3 and that means you CANNOT root the v3 (believe me i have tried and almost bricked my phone).
ALSO if you are on v3 you CANNOT upgrade to the OTA manually because it your phone will recognize it as a downgrade because it has all the same files except for the bootloader even though it is a different file.
On the other hand when Froyo comes out (if it comes out for the droid eris) you probably will be able to upgrade to that but that will be a long ways away. So sadly you're stuck with v3 right now.
ljbaumer said:
next time just search but here is the explanation:
technically they are the same thing except the OTA has a different bootloader from v3 and that means you CANNOT root the v3 (believe me i have tried and almost bricked my phone).
ALSO if you are on v3 you CANNOT upgrade to the OTA manually because it your phone will recognize it as a downgrade because it has all the same files except for the bootloader even though it is a different file.
On the other hand when Froyo comes out (if it comes out for the droid eris) you probably will be able to upgrade to that but that will be a long ways away. So sadly you're stuck with v3 right now.
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Thanks for not bombing me simple answer
My Friend has leak 3 and well we wanted to make sure its the same thing...
is it possible to hack the bootloader?
Man. Im glad I was patient. I was tempted to leak before root came out. But I was sold on root and ota. Ota didn't come out quick enough so I had decided to go with root. It's just more flexible to go that route anyway. And theoretically you can unroot if you flash the downgrade to 1.5 Rom and jump on to 2.1 Ota. But with root you can always keep your options open. Well if you have insurance, you can always get a replacement when you lose it, and root that.
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I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on this bad boy.
Now I know the gingerbread + bootloader unlockable upgrade is just around the corner.
If I root now, will that nerf the ability to go OTA?
I just want to stick to stock/OTA until the upcoming upgrade as a baseline, then I'm home free lol
I'm not a rookie at flashing/custom ROM (cyanogen on N1, overcome on SG tab) but I am a bit cautious/lazy, would seem like a safe option to start with gingerbread and stock unlockable bootloader as starting point.
TBH I've only ever dealt with stock unlockable bootloaders.
If you just root, I think you should still be able to receive the update.
If, however, you root AND mod... then no. Even removing bloatware may shoot your chance (try freezing instead, so you can restore).
The reason is that hte Moto update will check certain system files (not sure which) before update - after reboot, just before installing the update . If it finds anything amiss with what it is checking, it will cancel the update.
So if yuo have waited that long for rooting, might as well wait a bit longer. In any case, if the past is any indicatino, the 2.3.3 (or 2.3.4) update may remove root and/or plug the security holes that allow root.
yep my thoughts exactly. I'll probably hold off entirely and live with the nerfing so I can get a nice clean OTA gingerbread base
Simple question and hopefully different from all the other "It's here!", "Where are our ROM" threads..
I upgraded (if you can call it that) to the Galaxy Nexus literally like a week ago and deactivated my TB but it remains rooted.
Anyone know if there are dangers trying to activate it rooted with the intent to unroot, wait for the OTA, just in the hopes it will sell for more.
Or would you recommend unrooting then activating and then waiting for the OTA?
Hopefully you understand the question. I had the impression from a friend that if I tried to re-activate with root, it would red flag me for modified software. Thanks in advance.
DNak206 said:
Simple question and hopefully different from all the other "It's here!", "Where are our ROM" threads..
I upgraded (if you can call it that) to the Galaxy Nexus literally like a week ago and deactivated my TB but it remains rooted.
Anyone know if there are dangers trying to activate it rooted with the intent to unroot, wait for the OTA, just in the hopes it will sell for more.
Or would you recommend unrooting then activating and then waiting for the OTA?
Hopefully you understand the question. I had the impression from a friend that if I tried to re-activate with root, it would red flag me for modified software. Thanks in advance.
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The stock rooted roms are posted on the Infected forums if you just want to flash the stock rooted ICS.
OR, you could unroot and flash the OTA, but doing so I believe will upgrade your hboot, so you'll have to wait a bit until get the s-off on the new hboot.
Either way, I'm sure it'll be all squared away in the next couple of weeks.
Personally, if it were me, I would unroot and go OTA. Fly around completely stock for a while on your phone. I did that when 605.19 came out and I was actually surprised how well it performed being completely stock (battery life aside). But that didn't last long for me--I rooted it pretty shortly after.
Also, I'm not sure if you'd be red-flagged for trying to update OTA from root. I mean the worst that could happen is the update won't go through, and more likely, the update will go through, but will completely remove root and s-off.
Don't take the OTA expecting to reroot!
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The stock rooted roms are posted on the Infected forums if you just want to flash the stock rooted ICS.
OR, you could unroot and flash the OTA, but doing so I believe will upgrade your hboot, so you'll have to wait a bit until get the s-off on the new hboot.
Either way, I'm sure it'll be all squared away in the next couple of weeks.
Personally, if it were me, I would unroot and go OTA. Fly around completely stock for a while on your phone. I did that when 605.19 came out and I was actually surprised how well it performed being completely stock (battery life aside). But that didn't last long for me--I rooted it pretty shortly after.
Also, I'm not sure if you'd be red-flagged for trying to update OTA from root. I mean the worst that could happen is the update won't go through, and more likely, the update will go through, but will completely remove root and s-off.
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There may not be a "re-root" after you take the new hboot!!!!
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!
I've been saying this and not enough people are listening and stuck not being able to root again.
I know one person even trying to work on the hboot right now and his device will no longer boot, so think again before taking the OTA.
It's up to you and doesn't effect me either way, just a few words of advice if you will.
Maybe this will change and another miracle as big as this release will happen and an exploit will be found on a 2 year old device with less then a handful of devs even looking at it.
This could change, but right now I would not count on it.
I took the update unrooted but still had revolutionary's hboot. I can confirm that the hboot was not overwritten by the new one.
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Didn't realize there was a thread about this already lol. My bad.
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Seems there is a LOT of revert to stock and unroot threads, is there a consolidated place or simple means of doing this? I think I'm going to undo everything I did and just her activate it stock. If she *****es down the road about not having root (unlikely), I'll worry about it then.
Thanks guys.
Hi everyone. Im real good with tech but i cant find anyone having asked...
I want to go buy the S4 and I will definitely root it (following the posted instructions on here) but before i do, will i be able to instal OTA updates after and if not, is there another way id be able to install updates? I used Voodoo rootkeeper on my tablet after rooting and the 1st ota went fine and kept root, the 2nd ota killed the root even while using Voodoo...
Please, any any all responses asap appreciated. I want to get the phone asap as i am tired of my rooted Bionic.
Thank all.
bobstone said:
Hi everyone. Im real good with tech but i cant find anyone having asked...
I want to go buy the S4 and I will definitely root it (following the posted instructions on here) but before i do, will i be able to instal OTA updates after and if not, is there another way id be able to install updates? I used Voodoo rootkeeper on my tablet after rooting and the 1st ota went fine and kept root, the 2nd ota killed the root even while using Voodoo...
Please, any any all responses asap appreciated. I want to get the phone asap as i am tired of my rooted Bionic.
Thank all.
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Just wait for a rooted stock ROM based on the OTA to be made by a dev. You never NEED to take an OTA.
Thanks but im not sure what you mean. I have no interest in loading custom roms nor over-screwing around with the phone. Do you mean wait for another root process or wait for a download for an ota update?
Thanks again
Im guessing you mean a rom will be released again after the ota is out with the ota integrated in it... That process makes me kind of nervous as i need my phone for work as well as personal and cant risk screwing up the phone or erasing data eta...
There is pretty much always someone that releases the stock ROM flashable in a custom recovery so you can have a rooted stock ROM. Look at the dev beanstownm106 ROM in the development section. It is basically the stock ROM rooted with some very minor tweaks, but flashable with a custom recovery like TWRP.
BUT...there is almost never anything you can't do with basically any ROM that you can do with the stock ROM. So you really don't need the stock ROM...some people just prefer it. For my old Thunderbolt, it was pretty well known that for a long time there was a custom ROM, very similar to the stock ROM, that was more stable than stock (SkyRaider Zeus).
Another BUT: if you need Good for work, prepare for a constant fight with root detection. And you will want to back up your data often. I have a BB for work that I leave untouched (its not mine).
One more thing...the Loki workaround has its advantages...the bootloader is still locked and untouched, so it would be pretty hard to brick the device because you can get back into download mode and use odin to flash back to factory.
Whats the loki workaround? Also, im dont want to be doing any kind of flashing... I just simply want to root the s4 (which i now have) and be able to run ota updates or if not, download the ota and install the update manually. And if i get an ota, if it will kill root, even if i run voodoo.
Please, if someone could, let us all know if ota wont run or will kill root on say the s3 or s4 and if downloadable updates are another option... without flashing anything or going to crazy.
Thanks again in advance.