Hi everyone. Im real good with tech but i cant find anyone having asked...
I want to go buy the S4 and I will definitely root it (following the posted instructions on here) but before i do, will i be able to instal OTA updates after and if not, is there another way id be able to install updates? I used Voodoo rootkeeper on my tablet after rooting and the 1st ota went fine and kept root, the 2nd ota killed the root even while using Voodoo...
Please, any any all responses asap appreciated. I want to get the phone asap as i am tired of my rooted Bionic.
Thank all.
bobstone said:
Hi everyone. Im real good with tech but i cant find anyone having asked...
I want to go buy the S4 and I will definitely root it (following the posted instructions on here) but before i do, will i be able to instal OTA updates after and if not, is there another way id be able to install updates? I used Voodoo rootkeeper on my tablet after rooting and the 1st ota went fine and kept root, the 2nd ota killed the root even while using Voodoo...
Please, any any all responses asap appreciated. I want to get the phone asap as i am tired of my rooted Bionic.
Thank all.
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Just wait for a rooted stock ROM based on the OTA to be made by a dev. You never NEED to take an OTA.
Thanks but im not sure what you mean. I have no interest in loading custom roms nor over-screwing around with the phone. Do you mean wait for another root process or wait for a download for an ota update?
Thanks again
Im guessing you mean a rom will be released again after the ota is out with the ota integrated in it... That process makes me kind of nervous as i need my phone for work as well as personal and cant risk screwing up the phone or erasing data eta...
There is pretty much always someone that releases the stock ROM flashable in a custom recovery so you can have a rooted stock ROM. Look at the dev beanstownm106 ROM in the development section. It is basically the stock ROM rooted with some very minor tweaks, but flashable with a custom recovery like TWRP.
BUT...there is almost never anything you can't do with basically any ROM that you can do with the stock ROM. So you really don't need the stock ROM...some people just prefer it. For my old Thunderbolt, it was pretty well known that for a long time there was a custom ROM, very similar to the stock ROM, that was more stable than stock (SkyRaider Zeus).
Another BUT: if you need Good for work, prepare for a constant fight with root detection. And you will want to back up your data often. I have a BB for work that I leave untouched (its not mine).
One more thing...the Loki workaround has its advantages...the bootloader is still locked and untouched, so it would be pretty hard to brick the device because you can get back into download mode and use odin to flash back to factory.
Whats the loki workaround? Also, im dont want to be doing any kind of flashing... I just simply want to root the s4 (which i now have) and be able to run ota updates or if not, download the ota and install the update manually. And if i get an ota, if it will kill root, even if i run voodoo.
Please, if someone could, let us all know if ota wont run or will kill root on say the s3 or s4 and if downloadable updates are another option... without flashing anything or going to crazy.
Thanks again in advance.
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Hey everyone, I am new to the rooting world however I have only experienced good things. I decided to root my thunderbolt using TB Autoroot+htc sync last night(had the original stock froyo, was going to installed cyanogen mod 7) and was successful. Unfortunately, I then installed the leaked 2.3.4 RUU GB which rerooted my TB before I installed the cm7(wanted to try the RUU out, bad idea lol). I was wondering if all or any of these are possible (dont care about losing data, just don't want to brick, ie avoiding command lines if possible):
1. root the phone while maintaining the leaked 2.3.4 RUU, just as was done for FROYO? Original reason for rooting was to remove the bloatware apps, but not having custom roms would be ok at this point if that is this is the only option. I know there is the revolution method to root, however will that work on the leaked 2.3.4 RUU?
2. root the tb with my current 2.3.4 RUU and install the BAMF 2.3.4/sense 3.0 GB build, or some other custom 2.3.4 rom?
A tutorial or walk through would be great! I know there are some out there, however I am looking for one specifically for those that have the leaked 2.3.4 RUU on the thunderbolt.
Also, can someone explain the difference in features of the GB builds that have been out for some time(customs) vs the RUU by verizon? I'm not talking about the physical aspects or the apps that come with, but more in terms of installing/switching between them. I know I need to root in order to install the custom roms, but assuming i can root the 2.3.4 RUU, will I be able to install any other 2.3.4 rom such as BAMF or cyanogen without problems? I have heard that you just arent allowed to go backwards, ie back to Froyo one you update to GB, but I should be able to install any 2.3.4 GB ROM once rooted via the bootloader(power+volume down) True?
Any help would be great! Thanks!
Yes you can. Just use revolutionary to root the new GB build. Here is a video tutorial for you.
Well, here comes your first less than pleasant reply...
Pretty much everything you wanted to know is posted in my thread stickied in the Q&A section. That's also where this post is going to end up. Please check my thread on basic noob questions, search before posting, and post in the correct forum.
Ota update after root
I just got this thunderbolt replacement in the mail. I noticed OTA was trying to update so I hurried and pulled the battery to intterupt the update since it was in the version I needed to be to ROOT. Ok I went ahead and ROOTED the phone then updated my RADIO (wich by the way is a big difference without it, it wont stay in 4g) ok so I think im good to go when I see the phone is trying to do a FIRMWARE update again, I dont know if this will ruin my root or phone so Im in airplane mode till I find out what to do. I dont know how to turn off automatic update and I dont want to mess up my root or phone. WHAT DO I DO PLEASE HELP!!!
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I just got this thunderbolt replacement in the mail. I noticed OTA was trying to update so I hurried and pulled the battery to intterupt the update since it was in the version I needed to be to ROOT. Ok I went ahead and ROOTED the phone then updated my RADIO (wich by the way is a big difference without it, it wont stay in 4g) ok so I think im good to go when I see the phone is trying to do a FIRMWARE update again, I dont know if this will ruin my root or phone so Im in airplane mode till I find out what to do. I dont know how to turn off automatic update and I dont want to mess up my root or phone. WHAT DO I DO PLEASE HELP!!!
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If you are rooted, just use a program like root explorer to search for a file called otacerts.zip and rename it to otacerts.bak
When you open root explorer, make sure to put it into write mode. look at the top left side of the program and press on the mount r/w option
Cant find rom
I want to flash rom but I cant find it in my sd card through rom manager and also through recovery any suggestions its in the root of the phone highest directory
Jeovanny said:
I want to flash rom but I cant find it in my sd card through rom manager and also through recovery any suggestions its in the root of the phone highest directory
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If you used your phone to download a rom, its in the "download" folder, move it to the root of sd card
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Root Error
I am trying to Root my Thunderbolt but keep getting the following error:
Failed to get Root!
I am using revolutionary.
I have installed, made sure their was a connection, and then removed HTC Sync.
I downloaded and installed Android USB Drivers.
I selected USB Debugging
Thunderbolt Info:
HBOOT 1.04.000
Android 2.3.4
ROM Ver 2.11.605.9
What am I missing and where can I get it? Can anyone help me out with this? Thanks in advance...
I've never rooted but I believe you need to downgrade. Revolutionary does not work with the latest OTA. There are several posts around that explain how to downgrade to the previous OTA (link below). Then you should be able to use the revolutionary method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1401959
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Yes you need to downgrade to 2.11.605.5 then use reveloutionary
I am ready to install the latest update to my x2, but i am currently rooted and have the pulldown toggle zip and crt animation on my device, as well as the supercharger script, i know its very easy to remove the supercharger script,but would the crt or pulldown effect the install? Anyone encountered this issue yet?
thanks for the help.
amancini92292 said:
I am ready to install the latest update to my x2, but i am currently rooted and have the pulldown toggle zip and crt animation on my device, as well as the supercharger script, i know its very easy to remove the supercharger script,but would the crt or pulldown effect the install? Anyone encountered this issue yet?
thanks for the help.
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In order for you to update your gonna have to sbf back to 2.3.3 if that's what your on. If not, then the update will fail because of the root. You will be able to update once you sbf & wipe data in stock recovery as well just to be safe. Hope that helps
Edit: this is for if you are trying to get the ota...sorry I should clarified that first
thanks for the help that basically clears it all up, seeing as im fairly happy with it right now im going to leave well enough alone, when they roll out a bigger update i will consider it, thats what i figured i was going to have to do.
amancini92292 said:
thanks for the help that basically clears it all up, seeing as im fairly happy with it right now im going to leave well enough alone, when they roll out a bigger update i will consider it, thats what i figured i was going to have to do.
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Just use titanium backup then and back to stock, do the update and reload ur apps. Takes all of about an hour, tops.
Droid X2 - Eclipse v1.0
yeah i have all of that done already, i might give it a try, thanks
Rp...I don't think it will fail just due to root. U WILLA lose ur root.
It most likely WILL fail due to the mods/or rom u run due to missing files that are necessary.
if u are stock rooted I think it would work...but either way good idea to go back bone stock just to avoid any issues altogether
im running the completely stock rom, removing the script i have isnt an issue what so ever, is there any way to remove installed zips that were installed in the recovery?
ashclepdia said:
Rp...I don't think it will fail just due to root. U WILLA lose ur root.
It most likely WILL fail due to the mods/or rom u run due to missing files that are necessary.
if u are stock rooted I think it would work...but either way good idea to go back bone stock just to avoid any issues altogether
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True always better to be safe than sorry
if your on stock and you want to return your animations to stock you could possibly extract framework-res.apk from /system/framework/ of the stock gingerbread and push it via adb to your phone or you could use root explorer to do so as well. that should erase your mods to animations. and you'll most likely have to reboot after. but animations should retrun to stock after, than unroot and take the ota. but its never a bad idea just to go to bone stock via sbf as rp076 suggested
For taking off the toggles u can just flash the stock notification zip from one of those threads I think it is there somewhere. Or ask the creator of the toggle zip u flashed for the stock one...
But ur safest bet is sbf and data wipe. It's not hard to do at all and is just a good thing to know how to do
I recovered my stock rooted backup from eclipse .8 and took the OTA no problem. You will lose root but Pete's one click will work to root again. You won't lose any apps.
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rp076 said:
In order for you to update your gonna have to sbf back to 2.3.3 if that's what your on. If not, then the update will fail because of the root. You will be able to update once you sbf & wipe data in stock recovery as well just to be safe. Hope that helps
Edit: this is for if you are trying to get the ota...sorry I should clarified that first
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Steve125 said:
I recovered my stock rooted backup from eclipse .8 and took the OTA no problem. You will lose root but Pete's one click will work to root again. You won't lose any apps.
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Why do people keep thinking that just because you have root you have to SBF.. Root has nothing to do with the OTA update..
If you try and it fails it's not due to root, it would have to do with something frozen, or you have OTA Blocked with Rom Manager, or something else changed...
Of all the phones out there I can't think of any (ever) that have blocked OTA updates just because of root access.. In fact OTA Blocking had been added in to Rom Manger a few years back to prevent the OTA updates so people wouldn't update and lose root on updates that were not rooted yet.
On a side note, why would you SBF to 2.3.3 instead of just going to 2.3.4? You're just adding an extra step there. That would be like flashing back to Froyo SBF (what's the point?) if you want 2.3.4 GB..
masters said:
Why do people keep thinking that just because you have root you have to SBF.. Root has nothing to do with the OTA update..
If you try and it fails it's not due to root, it would have to do with something frozen, or you have OTA Blocked with Rom Manager, or something else changed...
Of all the phones out there I can't think of any (ever) that have blocked OTA updates just because of root access.. In fact OTA Blocking had been added in to Rom Manger a few years back to prevent the OTA updates so people wouldn't update and lose root on updates that were not rooted yet.
On a side note, why would you SBF to 2.3.3 instead of just going to 2.3.4? You're just adding an extra step there. That would be like flashing back to Froyo SBF (what's the point?) if you want 2.3.4 GB..
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Calm down killa...just stating what I know thru past experiences & I'm not the only one who's had the problem before. When the 2.3.3 update first came out I couldn't update because my phone still was rooted, NOTHING FROZEN OR REMOVED. I read in other threads at the time that sbf'ing was the way to fix the problem. Once i did that, i was able to get the update installed successfully. Its not a wrong procedure, but a way to be sure to get a clean install. And as for flashing back, I was saying to do that if he wanted the ota
Side note...rom manager isn't or hasn't even been available yet for this phone ...surely you knew that
what will this method do exactly to my phone when i flash it?
bare with me as i am completely new to android.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1286432
its the [Heimdall][Odin][Stock][Root]UCKH7 Return/Unbrick to Stock (or Root) by Entropy512
like if i flash that, what will happen?
example questions:
1)Will the os be the exact same as when i first took it out of the box?
or will somethings be gone, e.g. TouchWiz, AT&T apps, apps already pre installed ect..?
2) or is this method's soul purpose is to achieve root and upon flashing, it will retain everything that was loaded on the phone when first taken out of the box?
sorry about the noob question. but i have to get started somehow.
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what will this method do exactly to my phone when i flash it?
bare with me as i am completely new to android.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1286432
its the [Heimdall][Odin][Stock][Root]UCKH7 Return/Unbrick to Stock (or Root) by Entropy512
like if i flash that, what will happen?
example questions:
1)Will the os be the exact same as when i first took it out of the box?
or will somethings be gone, e.g. TouchWiz, AT&T apps, apps already pre installed ect..?
2) or is this method's soul purpose is to achieve root and upon flashing, it will retain everything that was loaded on the phone when first taken out of the box?
sorry about the noob question. but i have to get started somehow.
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1. Still be EXACTLY LIKE stock with TW and all. You will just have ROOT. Which is like having FULL ADMIN capabilities when relating it to windows computers. ROOT is just the Linux dirivitive of it.
2. Yes.
It is up to you what you want to keep or get rid of as far as any apps/bloatware that ATT/SAMSUNG put on the phone.
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I really appreciate it, thanks. Do you recommend i root? i kind of want to delete all that bloatware and all that crap.
Does rooting (w/o installing a new rom) still allow me to get updates from AT&T? When ICS comes out (assuming it does), will we still get an OTA update for it?
Thanks,
pistolberserk said:
I really appreciate it, thanks. Do you recommend i root? i kind of want to delete all that bloatware and all that crap.
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rooting, in itself, doesnt do anything to your phone. if you plan on removing all the crap from the phone, then you will need root access. So yes, if thats what you want ... root away. Just be careful of what you remove. You CAN screw up your phone if you remove too much.
GeremyHamlett said:
Does rooting (w/o installing a new rom) still allow me to get updates from AT&T? When ICS comes out (assuming it does), will we still get an OTA update for it?
Thanks,
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Because you need to flash a new kernel, I can't say for sure. I dont see why it wouldn't work but then again ... you did mofidy the phone ever-so-slightly, so it might not work. Not sure why you would want OTA updates anyway. The great devs in here will have those OTA updates incorporated into their ROMs shortly after the OTA is released.
@pistolberserk,
Entropy512's stock + root will not change the flash counter. If you are concerned about voiding the warranty, you might want to read the guides linked in my signature.
@Geremyhamlett,
That AT&T would release an OTA of ICS is highly speculative. But I agree with nyydynasty (and almost all other experienced users here that wouldn't even do an OTA update).
Hi all!
So after alot of thinking i've finally decided to take the plunge and upgrade my phone to an android phone. Im liking the atrix and i really wanna go for it, i just got a couple of questions.
The one im planning on getting in unlocked, and rooted, though i can have him unroot it for me. Now my current phone is my 4 year old nokia 5530, running a custom rom i flashed a while back, so i know abit about flashing. Now rooting, this is the 1st time i've heard off it.
Im new to all this, and I get the advantages, but really at the moment all i really need from it is the ability to install non-market apps, but from what i've gathered so far, it seems i cant update OTA to ICS (when its released) without bricking my phone if its rooted?
Isnt there any way to be able to install non-market apps without rooting? Or rather a way to have it rooted and still be able to update when the official ics release is out?
Cheers for the help guys
Oh and btw its running the official 2.3.4 GB
You have a few options, but what you choose is all really up to you.
First, I recall there being a way to sideload (run non-market applications) in Froyo via a script on the computer, but it required being at the computer every time you wanted to load one. But since it's running the official Gingerbread update, you should just be able to change an option to sideload, no hacks and no rooting required.
If you're still interested in rooting, there's a simple root method that could likely be undone, if the device is still new enough to be under warranty. See this thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255548
And finally, if you want to unlock your bootloader and try your hand at custom ROMs (and lose much hope of any carrier/manufacturer support), go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho... have a simple way to use it via other means.
hey everyone, im looking to root just to be able to run a certin app i need. If i root can i still get stock OTA updates? I really dont want to put a custom rom or unstable rom on.
Yes you'll still get ota updates but you'll most likely lose root if you take the update. You can root on the most recent update though (nk2), just upgrade via Odin and flash ne6 (stock) kernel, root with towel root, then flash back the nk2 kernel, here's instructions http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2909352
Warrior 3000 said:
hey everyone, im looking to root just to be able to run a certin app i need. If i root can i still get stock OTA updates? I really dont want to put a custom rom or unstable rom on.
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Normally the update will download if you are rooted, but when it tries to install it errors out. But I don't have a problem with that because I'd rather watch the update for a while to see what it does and if it has any issues. Then I can odin the update when I determine it looks like there are no issues and it doesn't add any additional restrictions I don't was to live with. At that point I use mobile odin to update and keep root at the same time.