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Hi guys
So the Galaxy S2 is hopefully coming here soon to Canada and I just had some questions about it.
1) I'm pretty used to looking at the Atrix forums and the problems associated with the bootloader and Motorola's lack of interest in updating their phones.
Does Samsung also have a bad rep for updating their phones or are they pretty good about it?
2) Also, I don't see much action happening in the dev forum ATM.
Is that normal because the phone hasn't been released in the states or is there some restriction stopping people from developing for this phone?
b) Or are people not wanting to put custom ROM's on the phone because it's really good?
3) I read something about Canada and an "AWS version". What does that mean?
Those are the main questions I wanted to ask right now when I think of more I'll post them.
Thanks,
Elliott
1) Not so sure sure about Samsung, there have 3 firmware updates so far but news whether they will be updating to 2.4, fingers crossed though..
2) This is not so true, the development scene is doing quite well i'd say most notably from pulser_g2 and his custom VillanRom 1.1, there are 2 other custom roms ready at the moment as well, Light'ning and one by AngeloM, CyongenMod 7 is also in the works as well. my money is on pulser's VR 1.1 one though, I stand by it .
3) Coming from Australia probably not the best to answer but AWS is a spectrum used by USA/Canada telcos how it compares to the others I have nfi.
If your wondering about this phone, i'd say look no further.
Is that normal because the phone hasn't been released in the states or is there some restriction stopping people from developing for this phone?
Its not two months old yet and many devs do not have SGS2 they have to go out and buy out of their own pocket .
b) Or are people not wanting to put custom ROM's on the phone because it's really good
YES
jje
Thanks guys.
Any info regarding questions #1 and 3?
Just adding to #3: it was something about Canada maybe not getting an AWS version or something like that? (and what is AWS?)
Does anyone else have anything to add with regard to my 1st and 3rd questions?
Also, if I get a phone that has the yellowing problem on the screen I should be able to return it for one that doesn't, correct? (I'm with Bell in Canada) [I realize the phone is not out yet in Canada...but when it is]
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Starholdest said:
Does anyone else have anything to add with regard to my 1st and 3rd questions?
Also, if I get a phone that has the yellowing problem on the screen I should be able to return it for one that doesn't, correct? (I'm with Bell in Canada) [I realize the phone is not out yet in Canada...but when it is]
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yes ive read people with that issue returning it
also people that get pink spots when taking pictures returned it
Thanks. Is that still an issue with the new batch of phones or it still is? I love this phone but I'd rather not buy one knowing that they all have problems...
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Starholdest said:
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1 no Samsung are fair and SGS2 has had about five updates .
3 plenty of custom roms around you cannot have many users of custom roms when the phone is only a few weeks old .
jje
Not sure if this as been asked recently, but I have a question specifically for Intratech, I was wondering what you currently have running on your S2, ie xwki8 with touchwiz launcher or something else and is it rooted?
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Not sure if this as been asked recently, but I have a question specifically for Intratech, I was wondering what you currently have running on your S2, ie xwki8 with touchwiz launcher or something else and is it rooted?
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Probably II1 rooted .
jje
weirdest. thread. ever.
Darkside im crushed, guess its time for me to find another less judgmental forum, one where noob's are free to ask questions without being darksided.
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Darkside im crushed, guess its time for me to find another less judgmental forum, one where noob's are free to ask questions without being darksided.
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Not one where members are free to reply then .
jje
What JJE said...
Don't you think a pm to intratech would have sufficed instead of this inane thread?
I never understood why someone won't root a device. It's 10 seconds process, besides absolutely nothing will be changed but you will have the root access, so why not do it! And if that query is addressed to a particular member then you should send him a PM instead of creating a thread!
Im my opinion it's worth rooting your device.
To keep as close to stock as possible use one of chainfires (cfroot) stock but rooted kernels. By using a cf kernel all should be as stock but you will get cwm,busybox and root.
Once rooted you can enjoy all the cool benefits of apps that require root like titanium backup, setCPU,etc,etc. Not to mention all the benefits of cwm like backups and flashing from your device,etc.
Just go for it.
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Just thought I’d bring a happy end to this inane thread.
I finally managed to get some time to mod my phone, so its now rooted & running cyanogenmod 7.1, which despite been a massive improvement on the stock rom i used to have, is regularly giving me force closures, which are usually fixed by a quick search of xda, im goin preserve with it for a week or so in the hope that they do a update to blitz the bugs, if not then im thinking about giving miui a try until the modding community can get their hands on the source code and release a stable version of ICS.
Thanks for the advice 'aceofclubs' you’re a credit to this forum.
some people are too rude in their replies...Don't they think that not everyone is a geek in smartphones? I know that they will be zero or less than zero in my own subject or speciality...
If any one doesn't want to reply, then better not to reply instead of humiliating reply.
So... I rooted My Att Galaxy SII. But... this jerk who made the video forgot to say NOT to use it if you have the latest version. (Which is just dumb)
So my wifi is broke, can't be turned on for more than a few seconds.
Crap.
Now what do I do? Factory resetting is out of the question as I've spent far too many hours customizing this bad boy to loose it all because some fool didn't think about warning anyone. :/
Oh great xda dudes. Lend me your brains
Locklear308 said:
So... I rooted My Att Galaxy SII. But... this jerk who made the video forgot to say NOT to use it if you have the latest version. (Which is just dumb)
So my wifi is broke, can't be turned on for more than a few seconds.
Crap.
Now what do I do? Factory resetting is out of the question as I've spent far too many hours customizing this bad boy to loose it all because some fool didn't think about warning anyone. :/
Oh great xda dudes. Lend me your brains
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Wrong forum for ATT Galaxy S2.
#1, you're in the wrong galaxy s2 forum. There's one for the the skyrocket and one for the hspa version. If you flash a kernel from the correct version I believe you should be OK. No guarantees though
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#1, you're in the wrong galaxy s2 forum. There's one for the the skyrocket and one for the hspa version. If you flash a kernel from the correct version I believe you should be OK. No guarantees though
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Whoops, Yeah just noticed that. Sorry guys XD
So...just flash the normal kernel the same way I did the rooted one? Ugh, Backing up just in case. Man this is annoying. I wish he would of put a warning :/
Flashed to Stock Kernal, Wifi is still broke. ****. So is my phone useless now? :[
Um maybe do some more research before you root. Its not "this guys" fault you phones useless, you have no one to blame but yourself
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If a Rooting Process will cause issues on a specific version. THAT needs to be stated in the information. Even if I was an expert I would not of know because it said nothing referring to versions or cautions.
That's like saying it's the users fault if he tried a custom rom damaging said device, because the creator of the rom didn't post information that he knew.
Tis all I am saying
FWIW all the modifications are done at user's discretion so it's never anyone's fault but yourself unless you get someone else to do it.
On topic though, try flashing a full firmware from ODIN which includes the modem, pda and csc files. Don't forget though that you should get this file from the right forum, or else you'll be stuck with a non working phone period.
Also, really, a valid question is, where did you get the rooting method you were trying to use? After all, you DID post this very post asking for help with your SGH-I777 in the i9100 forums. So if you got the method from a forum meant for a device that isn't yours, can you really legitimately blame the poster, just because you used it on YOUR device? I don't think that's fair.
EDIT: or do you have a Skyrocket, which is an SGH-I727?
I'm saying, if I myself, was posting information or a Rom/Kernel, if I know it doesn't work with a specific version of a device, and that users should NOT use it. It is my responsibility to tell them first as a warning, that's all I am saying.
And what I'm saying, is if you got the method from a forum meant for i9100 phones, and NOT for ATT Galaxy S2 (which is the SGH-I777), how is that the other guy's fault that you used something not meant for your phone, just because you happened to find the information? C'mon, man. Take some responsibility.
Couldn't you just get titanium backup then back up everything? Then unroot to 2.3.4 the root your phone so wifi works then restore with titanium backup. I did something very similar to this to fix my phone and I've had a couple problems restoring but that's probably just cause I am a newb. Overall it worked pretty good though.
Something is wrong at the kernel level. Titanium backup won't help.
Um, no.
Your phone = your responsibility. Bottom line. Nothing else is relevant.
Hi folks!
I want to buy a new SGS2, I'm coming from the Xperia arc Forums, and have some questions, cause Noob guides didn't really help me..!
So here we go:
1: On Sony devices theres a bootloader, and you can unlock it, but not every device can get unlocked, is it the same here?
2: What is the difference between "Original Android Development" and "Android Development"? The Arc Forums just have the 2nd one.
3: On Arc Forums you can flash kernels with a unlocked bootloader only, and flash firmwares with a program called "Flashtool" and Custom ROMs with CWM. My question: How can I flash firmwares to the SGS2? Is there such program too or what is it?
(I already found out how to root )
Well, that are all my questions for now! I hope you guys can help me!
Regards,
intel_c0re
Welcome to the S2 forums......
IMO the S2 (although not a cutting edge phone) is a nice phone.....
Samsung bootloaders are not locked....no ussue....
Root and cwm are usually contained in the same custom kernel.....some of which can be flashed from the stock recovery (search for PhilZ)
Other kernels (and firmwares) need to be flashed by a program called ODIN.....which I guess is similar to the program you mentioned......
ODIN seemed daunting at first...but if you do enough searching and reading (plenty of threads here) you won't go far wrong.
As for the difference between 'Android Development' and 'Original Android Development'......not entirely certain....there may have been a difference to begin with.....but what difference there was...seems to have been 'muddied' over time.......
Finally.....
I don't know what things were like over on the Sony forum, but here there's an unwritten but 'vigorously enforced' rule.....
Search, read, learn, understand then do.....
*some* folks here have a very short fuse when it comes to answering questions that "noobs" have created new threads for (without searching first).......remember the above rule; and you'll get a lot out of this forum.....
Good luck mate...
EDIT.....
If you buy the phone new, the FIRST thing to check is whether it's running ICS 4.0.4.
If it is, be very careful......
Search for emmc brickbug for details.....there's a 'stickyed' thread about it in one of the sections. Read it fully to understand the issue before doing ANYTHING to your phone.....
Sent from my rooted, de bloated, stock JB powered S2 via PhilZ kernel and XDA developers app
intel_c0re said:
Hi folks!
I want to buy a new SGS2, I'm coming from the Xperia arc Forums, and have some questions, cause Noob guides didn't really help me..!
So here we go:
1: On Sony devices theres a bootloader, and you can unlock it, but not every device can get unlocked, is it the same here?
2: What is the difference between "Original Android Development" and "Android Development"? The Arc Forums just have the 2nd one.
3: On Arc Forums you can flash kernels with a unlocked bootloader only, and flash firmwares with a program called "Flashtool" and Custom ROMs with CWM. My question: How can I flash firmwares to the SGS2? Is there such program too or what is it?
(I already found out how to root )
Well, that are all my questions for now! I hope you guys can help me!
Regards,
intel_c0re
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You don't need to root. Just flash a custom recovery, then wipe data+cache in recovery, and flash a ROM. As simple as that. No extra steps required.
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keithross39 said:
Welcome to the S2 forums......
IMO the S2 (although not a cutting edge phone) is a nice phone.....
Samsung bootloaders are not locked....no ussue....
Root and cwm are usually contained in the same custom kernel.....some of which can be flashed from the stock recovery (search for PhilZ)
Other kernels (and firmwares) need to be flashed by a program called ODIN.....which I guess is similar to the program you mentioned......
ODIN seemed daunting at first...but if you do enough searching and reading (plenty of threads here) you won't go far wrong.
As for the difference between 'Android Development' and 'Original Android Development'......not entirely certain....there may have been a difference to begin with.....but what difference there was...seems to have been 'muddied' over time.......
Finally.....
I don't know what things were like over on the Sony forum, but here there's an unwritten but 'vigorously enforced' rule.....
Search, read, learn, understand then do.....
*some* folks here have a very short fuse when it comes to answering questions that "noobs" have created new threads for (without searching first).......remember the above rule; and you'll get a lot out of this forum.....
Good luck mate...
EDIT.....
If you buy the phone new, the FIRST thing to check is whether it's running ICS 4.0.4.
If it is, be very careful......
Search for emmc brickbug for details.....there's a 'stickyed' thread about it in one of the sections. Read it fully to understand the issue before doing ANYTHING to your phone.....
Sent from my rooted, de bloated, stock JB powered S2 via PhilZ kernel and XDA developers app
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Thank you very much! And what happens if the device is on JB or even GB?
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JB and GB are unaffected by brickbug. ....the only one to watch out for is ICS 4.0.4.......
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Lol this forum is a lot more vicious than the Sony ones.
Read up about backing up your efs folder and get Odin set up on your PC so you can revert back to it....same as you would with flash tool.
Yes, and some people (particularly the ones with an IQ below 25) have a habit of always spoonfeeding everyone even the most basic information that's been posted here thousands of times before, and almost always in the preceding few days. Which actually increases the prevalence of busted phones, I.E people who learn stuff for themselves tend not have that happen.
This is one of the reasons why many (more & more these days) people here get so 'short', as much as n00bs asking the most dopey questions time & again and being too lazy to search through some threads.
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Yes, and some people (particularly the ones with an IQ below 25) have a habit of always spoonfeeding everyone even the most basic information that's been posted here thousands of times before, and almost always in the preceding few days. Which actually increases the prevalence of busted phones, I.E people who learn stuff for themselves tend not have that happen.
This is one of the reasons why many (more & more these days) people here get so 'short', as much as n00bs asking the most dopey questions time & again and being too lazy to search through some threads.
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You should go a little easy on the answering guy's(about the IQ 25 guy's I think most are newbies trying to increase post count.. Lol) , because as far as I am concerned google search produce's solutions for most problem (a little confusing yes, but anybody with a little patience can understand them), on that basis most questions asked here are "lazy" questions, but still most people are answering here because they want to, nobody is forcing anybody to do so after all, just some time ago you solved a guy's problem by suggesting him to use a Static IP, that solution can be easily found through Google, but still you choose to answer, people tend to be people and want everything to be easy, (why do you think a graphical interface is necessary nowadays) some are plain idiotic and will jump without thinking, I don't support spoonfeeding but giving a small description and suggesting to read is always a good answer.
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Yeah. ...it's better to point them in the right direction than to vicariously flame them and insult their intelligence level........
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MistahBungle said:
Yes, and some people (particularly the ones with an IQ below 25) have a habit of always spoonfeeding everyone even the most basic information that's been posted here thousands of times before, and almost always in the preceding few days. Which actually increases the prevalence of busted phones, I.E people who learn stuff for themselves tend not have that happen.
This is one of the reasons why many (more & more these days) people here get so 'short', as much as n00bs asking the most dopey questions time & again and being too lazy to search through some threads.
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Deleted, you're not worth it.
Thanks to the guys who helped me here! If I get problems I'll post here, I hope you can still help me then!
I'll purchase the phone on Saturday and start working on it. I'm not sure because I couldn't watch in the settings and I never had a phone of the Galaxy series, so, is this GB or ICS? tbh it looks a bit GB for me but what do you think? I've posted an attachment.
Thank's for your attention!
So much butthurt in this thread (Particularly the OP who's a lazy n00b & some other guy who's of no consequence).
MistahBungle said:
Yes, and some people (particularly the ones with an IQ below 25) have a habit of always spoonfeeding everyone even the most basic information that's been posted here thousands of times before, and almost always in the preceding few days. Which actually increases the prevalence of busted phones, I.E people who learn stuff for themselves tend not have that happen.
This is one of the reasons why many (more & more these days) people here get so 'short', as much as n00bs asking the most dopey questions time & again and being too lazy to search through some threads.
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Hey Mistah, i do get ur point for now 'Search before posting', well thats good.but things like the highlighted one doesn't do good to ur stature,so do please edit the post of urs for now ma8
Something tells me that *somebody* needs to moderate their tone......glad I'm not the only one to notice this........
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keithross39 said:
Something tells me that *somebody* needs to moderate their tone......glad I'm not the only one to notice this........
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Good, I removed that part, so what's with the phone? Can you see the firmware by the lockscreen?
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Settings>>about device>>android version. ......
That'll tell you for certain......
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keithross39 said:
Settings>>about device>>android version. ......
That'll tell you for certain......
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^^^^^ if only there were people like this guy when I first started on the s2!!! Luckily there are a few others who will also help out but things get easier over time. As for the lock screen, looks like GB but always worth checking in settings to be 100% custom themes can be found on play store and finally realise how many there are since my 3 year old has now taken over the s2 as a toy and changes everything daily
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keithross39 said:
Settings>>about device>>android version. ......
That'll tell you for certain......
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I told that I can only watch the lock screen, but I found out that it's GB already.
So..
I think this is done for now! I'll give news here about the phone then.
Thank you!
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So much butthurt in this thread (Particularly the OP who's a lazy n00b & some other guy who's of no consequence).
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Friend, you should learn to show some respect, as the saying goes "give respect and get respect". Everybody was a noob once, I respect you, since I myself have learned a lot from you directly and in-directly, but showing disrespect to noobs as well as people who answer's is wrong, which as Sun90 said is bad for your stature, "to err is human" everybody makes mistakes nobody can be perfect all the time, if you find somebody is wrong or has made a mistake, politely correct them, who know's maybe the other party could be a genius who made a mistake, who are we to insult them? I really do hope you take this message the right way, as I mean no offence to you.
Keith, buddy I really appreciate what you are doing here, because pointing people in the right direction is always right. :good:
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I just purchased the SGS2, but how can I root JB 4.1.2 (XWLSD)?
Thanks!
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Hi I am about to buy the Tmobile gs5. About 2 months ago I bough a ATT GS4 and im pretty upset because of the locked bootloader .. There is no work around for it so you cant flash custom kernels or aosp roms ... Only roms based off stock ...........I guess im really wanting to know the draw backs if any ? when it comes to custom roms , kernels or recoveries ..Or is it a free for all when it comes to this ? Thanks any help would be much appreciated
Update: I had 20 minutes to decide on a phone and chose GS5 over G3 ..If you check the G3 development thread youll see why .
Your use of question marks is disconcerting.
Please use the search function next time. There are so many threads asking the same question. Just to make it faster, yes, the bootloader is unlocked and you can flash anything on it.
to follow up what aooga said, yes the bootloader is unlocked
however AOSP and other versions of non TW roms don't have a few features unlocked yet. I'll be happy when we get a working version of Cyanogenmod running...
aooga said:
Please use the search function next time. There are so many threads asking the same question. Just to make it faster, yes, the bootloader is unlocked and you can flash anything on it.
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I had to use somes phone to post this question so I didn't have much time to search .. I just checked this thread when I got to Tmobile on a display phone ..Thanks though I got the gs5
Nyagu said:
Your use of question marks is disconcerting.
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Im sorry I made you feel uneasy ... Sounds like a personal issue Junior.?? You must get confused easily or maybe your just to busy wacking it to SIMS..
And thanks for commenting on my question marks instead of actually answering the question.
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to follow up what aooga said, yes the bootloader is unlocked
however AOSP and other versions of non TW roms don't have a few features unlocked yet. I'll be happy when we get a working version of Cyanogenmod running...
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Thanks .. I wasn't even planning on getting a phone today and had the choice of a brand new GS5 or G3 and had about 20 minutes to figure it out and a crappy internet connection and asking a question once and checking back was my best option over google ..Got the s5.. There is basically no development for the G3