Whats up guys? First post here for a new guy. My Thunderbolt is rooted and I have been trying to find a good kernel that helped my battery life. Started with Das Bamf 1.6.3 remix but the Kernel that came with it was awful on battery life. Without using the phone at all the battery would die after 6 hours. I originally flashed this rom through Rom Manager. I then moved to Liquid Thundersense 1.5 and then flashed a kernel that was ok but not great. Did this through Rom Manager as well. Then I read thatit was best to flash through recovery in Clockwork mod. I did this and went back to Das Bamf. Same problems with the kernel that came with it. I then decided to try Imoseyons lean kernel. First tried the battery saver mode using the terminal emulator in the das bamf toolkit. That did not work at all. Then I tried option #1 for the normal mode. This kernel is INCREDIBLE! The battery barely moves at all and this seems to be the one I want to stay with. One problem.....every once in a while I turn the phone and and see that I used 10-15% of the battery while doing nothing. Every time this happens I see that my 3G icon at the top of my screen is showing data going in and out at all times and won't turn off. The only way to fix this problem is to reboot. Then the kernel is back to being amazing. Has anyone experienced these problems before? If so, is there a fix. With the way that I use the phone I should easily be able to go a full day and still have lots of battery left if I don't run into this problem. I would much rather not go with the fat extended battery. If this has been covered elsewhere I apologize. I tried reading through a bunch of threads but had no luck.
Nobody has anything???? I also noticed today that I had a random reboot. I was leaving a voicemail for my brother and I looked down to see that it was rebooting. The kernel is not extreme in the overclocking or the undervolting. I guess if no one has any ideas I will have to try some other kernels. Its a shame cause the battery life was incredible with this one.
I believe its a great kernel. Reboots could be caused by anything... Almost everyone is getting random Reboots with the tbolts. Your data issue is probably Rom related, I would personally reinstall after manually wipe on everything.
The vary life on this phone is not good, but my personal experience is that its my screen sucking down my batt! It's to much fun to play with.
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The network could be the culprit, too. I have problems more often than I'd like in metro Atlanta. I've woken up twice since I've had the TB with the battery completely drained after 7 hours, so my alarm clock doesn't go off obviously. I've already dropped to 1X for a couple minutes this morning, so I'm sure the battery loves that.
That's probably Rom related as well. Something is sucking data when it shouldn't be.
My phone only uses around 1-2 % all night. But will drain quickly when I do some morning browsing.
Check your sync. It might be set wrong or you could have one of 1000 or issues.
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Could be, but both times it happened actually before I rooted, which is interesting. I've only had this happen twice in over 2 months, so who knows.
At least I'm not getting random reboots.
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Whats up guys? First post here for a new guy. My Thunderbolt is rooted and I have been trying to find a good kernel that helped my battery life. Started with Das Bamf 1.6.3 remix but the Kernel that came with it was awful on battery life. Without using the phone at all the battery would die after 6 hours. I originally flashed this rom through Rom Manager. I then moved to Liquid Thundersense 1.5 and then flashed a kernel that was ok but not great. Did this through Rom Manager as well. Then I read thatit was best to flash through recovery in Clockwork mod. I did this and went back to Das Bamf. Same problems with the kernel that came with it. I then decided to try Imoseyons lean kernel. First tried the battery saver mode using the terminal emulator in the das bamf toolkit. That did not work at all. Then I tried option #1 for the normal mode. This kernel is INCREDIBLE! The battery barely moves at all and this seems to be the one I want to stay with. One problem.....every once in a while I turn the phone and and see that I used 10-15% of the battery while doing nothing. Every time this happens I see that my 3G icon at the top of my screen is showing data going in and out at all times and won't turn off. The only way to fix this problem is to reboot. Then the kernel is back to being amazing. Has anyone experienced these problems before? If so, is there a fix. With the way that I use the phone I should easily be able to go a full day and still have lots of battery left if I don't run into this problem. I would much rather not go with the fat extended battery. If this has been covered elsewhere I apologize. I tried reading through a bunch of threads but had no luck.
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If your worried about data using your battery when your not using the phone you should check out Juice Defender. Just set it up to turn off all data when your screen is off.
Heres your fix..
Ditch DBAMF 1.6.3 and go back to 1.6.1 with the lean kernel.. I get amazing battery life with 161 and 2.5.1 kernel.
I'll give that a try. I also didn't seem to have problems with Liquid Thundersense 1.5 so that may be another option.
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Hello,
I'm new to android and new to rooting/roms, but I've developed a bit of knowledge in a short time, so please bear with me. I am currently running Das Bamf Remix 1.6 with stock Kernal. It should be noted that I did a full Davlik/Data cahce wipe and reset battery stats prior to flashing. It has been running great and battery life has been good for a week. Two days ago out of the blue my gmail temporarily wouldn't sync (it showed I had mail but wouldn't display the message), but withing 5 minutes I was able to get it to work again and havn't had the problem since. Then this morning I woke up to find that the phone rebooted itself in sleep mode during the night while I was sleeping. Does anybody know why these things happened?, other than those two incidents, the phone has been perfect. Thanks in advance for your help!
Phone will ocasionally reboot out of no where. Some times its few and far between, other people tweak their phone to where its instable and it reboots daily. If its once a week, your good.
I have seen that bug with gmail too. Dont know what causes it, or what clears it. I usually reboot and it goes. But it will also clear in time.
Thanks for the info. What have you found to be the best battery kernal for das bamf?, the included kernal or is there something else you recommend?
every phone is going to like kernels different, just pick one to test, see if battery life goes up or down after a few days. Then try another... keep going to you find one YOU like the best.
Im still rocking one of Imosyn's old kernels. Its doing great for me so I just havent bothered upgrading. I just hit a new record of 65 hrs this weekend on a single charge but that was extremely light usage.
What Imosyn Kernal version are you using on the Thunderbolt?, or are you on a different phone?. I just want to use the one that most people are having success with, have you heard what is the most popular for TB?, because when I google, I get a million different answers.
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I just hit a new record of 65 hrs this weekend on a single charge but that was extremely light usage.
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O.O crazyyyy
use one of the 3 big dogs, imoseyon, ardynalyne, or ziggys (from his web site)
from there you need to decide if you want overclocked or under volted. that will narrow it down to a handfull. From there you will have to test what works best on your phone. No one can tell you what will work best on your phone.
the one im using from imoseyon you wont find anywhere, and i wont give it out. He doesnt support it anymore so no sense in worrying about it.
Thanks, I can sense what kernal your using...
Can someone suggest settings or let me know what I'm doing wrong with these ROMS? I was using das BAMF Remix v1.7 and my battery lasted about 2 hours with very little use. I flashed GingerStripped and it's also doing the same. I can take my phone off the charger and it immediately drops from 100% to 95%. I've left my phone off the charger and it will die without even using it at all after about 4 hours. My Thunderbolt would last around 8 hours stock. Help?
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Can someone suggest settings or let me know what I'm doing wrong with these ROMS? I was using das BAMF Remix v1.7 and my battery lasted about 2 hours with very little use. I flashed GingerStripped and it's also doing the same. I can take my phone off the charger and it immediately drops from 100% to 95%. I've left my phone off the charger and it will die without even using it at all after about 4 hours. My Thunderbolt would last around 8 hours stock. Help?
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You're running the leaked gingerbread leak, that's why. It's a known won't be solved issue most likely until the official release. If you search around (just look in the threads for the roms).
Just a suggestion. I would take more time to read through what you're flashing before you do it, just for the sake of not screwing up your phone and so you're aware of the caveats to what you are about to flash. I know the threads get long, but you can increase your posts per page in your user settings.
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You're running the leaked gingerbread leak, that's why. It's a known won't be solved issue most likely until the official release. If you search around (just look in the threads for the roms).
Just a suggestion. I would take more time to read through what you're flashing before you do it, just for the sake of not screwing up your phone and so you're aware of the caveats to what you are about to flash. I know the threads get long, but you can increase your posts per page in your user settings.
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No that isn't why, BAMF remix 1.7 isn't the gingerbread leak, take your advice and read a little more.
To the OP:
What kernels are you using?
Are you wiping everything before flashing?
When you look at the battery usage, what is using it mostly?
Does your phone get very hot in those couple of hours the battery lasts?
I'm using BAMF remix 2.1, imo 3.0.1 kernel 245/1592, mr2.5 radio (with extended battery) and getting about 35 hours of use. So something def isn't right with yours.
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No that isn't why, BAMF remix 1.7 isn't the gingerbread leak, take your advice and read a little more.
To the OP:
What kernels are you using?
Are you wiping everything before flashing?
When you look at the battery usage, what is using it mostly?
Does your phone get very hot in those couple of hours the battery lasts?
I'm using BAMF remix 2.1, imo 3.0.1 kernel 245/1592, mr2.5 radio (with extended battery) and getting about 35 hours of use. So something def isn't right with yours.
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I flashed GingerStripped and it's also doing the same. I can take my phone off the charger and it immediately drops from 100% to 95%. I've left my phone off the charger and it will die without even using it at all after about 4 hours. My Thunderbolt would last around 8 hours stock. Help?
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Granted it was doing it on both 1.7 and 2.x. However he was using both. I've also been up coding for the past 12 hours and I'm only halfway thinking at the moment, sorry.
Just a suggestion for the OP, you might also need to kill your battery stats so it creates new ones (kill them, when it gets to 100%, then let it discharge down to near zero [if possible]). All that flashing might have it out of wack. Here's an app to do it for you:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration
I had a somewhat similar problem with 1.7 remix and froyo stripped. I'm not sure if it was just waiting for 2 days worth of charges or signing out of trillian, but after getting 4-5 hours of 4G usage, I can now get 24hours.
I wiped everything before flashing each ROM. My phone is currently dead so I can't see which kernel but whichever is flashed with the GingerStripped ROM is what I have. The battery usage always shows my display as using the most but that makes no sense when I can leave it off the charger while I sleep and it still drains the battery. My phone gets a little warm when I'm using it for long periods of time but it's never hot or warm when I use it for a short time.
I'm going to try to calibrate the battery and see if that helps
Thanks guys.
For the pass week I have been experiencing screen freezes / screen lock ups......to the point I have to do a battery pull....I never had this issues before til recently I've tried every rom and it does the same thing after a few days or so I've even ran roms that I've never had any issues with before but i still get lock ups....any ideas!!! I don't wanna take it in cuz I don't want to do the HTC unlocking once they send me a refurb!!
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Could it be heat related? Mine is.
I am going for a second refurbished e3d and hitting it with a hairdryer first thing out of the box to see if I can get it to reboot due to moderate heat.
A month ago, refurbished phones were 1.4 hboot.
Can't be heat related I watch movies just to burn my battery dry and nothing goes wrong but idk but it possibly could be heat related
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M phone was horribly hot this weekend and was perfectly stable. What the heck?!?
Heat is either a necessary precondition or it is humidity related. Those (and updated apps, as they hit the market) are all that have changed between stability and the previous rebooting abyss.
Maybe random really is random.
Oh, I still can't use the walts kernel that comes with CR 2.5. Something about it hates my phone and causes massive random rebooting.
Freeza's stock kernel is a million times more stable, only leaving me with the more minor rebooting topic we are posting about here.
Try this... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18246407&postcount=2861
I'm getting freezes also, anytime my phone screen times out. The phone will lock up and you have to hold power button plus volume up and down to reboot or battery pull.
I just did this fix and testing now, not sure if it fixes it yet...
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^^^didn't work for me... Getting the lockups.
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Questions - Just trying to help
OP :
Are you using any 3rd party roms - mods - themes- etc.
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If so, I can tell you , from personal experience, that ViperRom seemed to affect my phone (stock kernel, last version, not the latest) in this way. I was not overclocking, nothing special just the basic rom and it seemed to randomly lock up, and get quite warm. Many, many others however are quite happy with his rom without any issues.
Me personally, I have moved to Virus'es (lol) infected rom, Im loving it, stable, fast, beautiful theme, and it seems like the developer is a little more involved than Viper was.
Just my 2c, Not trying to trash any of the dev's I appreciate all of the hard work hobbyists put into this, once again, just trying to be helpful.
--DT
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OP :
Are you using any 3rd party roms - mods - themes- etc.
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If so, I can tell you , from personal experience, that ViperRom seemed to affect my phone (stock kernel, last version, not the latest) in this way. I was not overclocking, nothing special just the basic rom and it seemed to randomly lock up, and get quite warm. Many, many others however are quite happy with his rom without any issues.
Me personally, I have moved to Virus'es (lol) infected rom, Im loving it, stable, fast, beautiful theme, and it seems like the developer is a little more involved than Viper was.
Just my 2c, Not trying to trash any of the dev's I appreciate all of the hard work hobbyists put into this, once again, just trying to be helpful.
--DT
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I'm running virus news rev and I'm getting the lockups...
It happens while I leave phone idle and freezes screen up and requires battery yank or power down and volume button reset.
I just flashed back to virus airbourne and no lockups.
Seems to happen on 2.3.4 roms only.
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If you are running any of the roms that change the automatic dimming settings than that may be your problem. For some reason, anytime Steel would add that feature to his rom everyone would start having the lockups and screen freezing. Check to see if your rom has altered these settings and if it has remove that update and you should be fine.
Every single kernel I have tried with the exception of netarchy's silverneedle on 2.3.3 has given me random lockups after about a day of use.
I have since reverted back to the Stock kernel on 2.3.4 and all is well.
Yea i have used vipers newest and even went back to the good ol decks ROM and had lock ups I'm on deck now with no custom kernel so i will do more testing then slowly add things to see what the culprit is
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Yea i have used vipers newest and even went back to the good ol decks ROM and had lock ups I'm on deck now with no custom kernel so i will do more testing then slowly add things to see what the culprit is
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Keep us updated, want to figure these lockups out...
I think its probably more hardware related. I'm stock everything and have had this almost catch fire 3 times now. Not like a little hot, but hot to where I have to put it down. I too have had a bunch of screen freezes lately, only a few force restarts. The high temp thing is random. First was taking video. Second time was uploading a few pics to facebook, third time....this last sunday was a good one. Had it plugged in for about 2.5hrs. My dad grabbed it and threw it down because he didn't expect it to be as hot as it was. I was like WTF? He gave me the phone and it was on fire, with only 25-30 charge. This was using the HTC charging stuff that came with the phone. I keep deleting the battery temp app so i didn't get actual temps at the time. I'm gonna try for a new one tomorrow, hopefully get upgraded to 1.40 from 1.50.
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I think its probably more hardware related. I'm stock everything and have had this almost catch fire 3 times now. Not like a little hot, but hot to where I have to put it down. I too have had a bunch of screen freezes lately, only a few force restarts. The high temp thing is random. First was taking video. Second time was uploading a few pics to facebook, third time....this last sunday was a good one. Had it plugged in for about 2.5hrs. My dad grabbed it and threw it down because he didn't expect it to be as hot as it was. I was like WTF? He gave me the phone and it was on fire, with only 25-30 charge. This was using the HTC charging stuff that came with the phone. I keep deleting the battery temp app so i didn't get actual temps at the time. I'm gonna try for a new one tomorrow, hopefully get upgraded to 1.40 from 1.50.
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That's crazy I never had heating issues like that before!! But maybe ill do everything to get my phone working harder to see if I can create that issue
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So i have a verizon fascinate and am currently running cm7. (first tried the stable release but niw a nightly). Im eeally liking cm, but since i got it my battery life is garbage. Basically the drain seems to come from either the android os sercice or cell standby. Whenever i leave my phone inactive for a while, when i wake it up the battery has dropped a lot and tge phone is very warm. I have been modding this phone for a while, but im no android programmer. Purely based on the forum searchi. G ive done on the issue, it seemsblike cm7 has an issue with my modem or radio.
Extra info: my 3g/2g signals seem fine (always 0% time without signal). Wifi connectivity seems fine. Im also running glitch's kernal altho the problem has persisted with and without it (i did do a kernel cleaning first). I used the "go from anything to jb vanilla" guide cuz i was having issues switching to mtd at first (sry dont have a link rite now but it was on xda) . I get occassional force closes, but not really a problem. When i did a titanium back up, the very first time i flashed cm7 i Did restore system settings, but i did not do that every time since then. Ive done a fresh flash of the stable mod around 3 times trying different stuff, but this one is niggtly as i said, and each has had this issue.
If looked around a lot, and wgile this seems common, no one has posted a consistent solution or explanation to the problem, so thats what im looking for.
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So i have a verizon fascinate and am currently running cm7. (first tried the stable release but niw a nightly). Im eeally liking cm, but since i got it my battery life is garbage. Basically the drain seems to come from either the android os sercice or cell standby. Whenever i leave my phone inactive for a while, when i wake it up the battery has dropped a lot and tge phone is very warm. I have been modding this phone for a while, but im no android programmer. Purely based on the forum searchi. G ive done on the issue, it seemsblike cm7 has an issue with my modem or radio.
Extra info: my 3g/2g signals seem fine (always 0% time without signal). Wifi connectivity seems fine. Im also running glitch's kernal altho the problem has persisted with and without it (i did do a kernel cleaning first). I used the "go from anything to jb vanilla" guide cuz i was having issues switching to mtd at first (sry dont have a link rite now but it was on xda) . I get occassional force closes, but not really a problem. When i did a titanium back up, the very first time i flashed cm7 i Did restore system settings, but i did not do that every time since then. Ive done a fresh flash of the stable mod around 3 times trying different stuff, but this one is niggtly as i said, and each has had this issue.
If looked around a lot, and wgile this seems common, no one has posted a consistent solution or explanation to the problem, so thats what im looking for.
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You could flash jt's vanilla gb rom. That has good battery life.
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Plus do you have an overclock?
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I have had the standby battery drain on every CM7 version and Kernel tried so far including 7.1 stable,7.0 nightlies,JT's Vanilla,and PoolParty. It's even worse if I shut phone down and don't plug in. It will drop 50 to 75% overnight with phone not on?
Has done it with undervolting,overclocking,and voltage control not even installed. This is first time I have seen others having similiar issues.
I think this is a known issue for all MTD roms on the fascinate, if I'm not mistaken.
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I think this is a known issue for all MTD roms on the fascinate, if I'm not mistaken.
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I lose only 5% to 10% overnight on CM7 never really notice how much on MIUI cause I never ran it long enough. I guess every phone would behave differently for MTD's or maybe you have an app or mulitple ones that refreshes frequently(Fancy Widget comes to mind).
Well that really sucks, because i do enjoy cm7. But this also means if i go back to a touchwiz configuration like stock dl09 i shouldnt have these issues right?
But before that, has anyone who had these issues tried anything (ie kernels or maybe standby mode power conservation setting, etc... ) that have at least noticeably improved your battery life? Right now mines pretty unbearable (im talking 8hrs while on but totally inactive), but if i can get it up a little i might b able to manage.
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I am also experiencing poor battery life. I just flashed 7.1.0 yesterday and absolutely love it. Was using com rom for a few months, but a friend said to try out cwm 7. I used to get about 6 - 8 hours of Pandora while at work and today I only got about 4 before my phone shut off. I'm going to try completely killing battery and charge with phone off tonight an see if it's any better tomorrow.
Any other suggestions? I'm not a noob when it comes to custom roms and flashing (I used to flash the **** out of my G1) but there may have been something I over looked when switching to cwm7. I wiped everything a few times before flashing including battery stats and dalvic.
My battery life is actually really good. Running latest nighty, undervolted -75 across the board,stock kernel, and no overclocking.
Just can't figure why I lose 50-75% of battery overnight when phone is shut down and not charging?
I have the same issue with CM7.1, turning phone of at 80% battery at night to find it at 25% at morning
Is there knows solution?
I've only had this happen a few times and was wondering if anyone had this happen to them also. I'm rooted and run custom roms, it doesn't seem to be rom or kernel dependent.
For example, I had my phone on since noon and haven't really used it since then except a few times to check the time. I just pulled my phone out of my pocket and hit the power button... nothing. I held it down and it started to boot up. When this happens the battery is never dead (it was at 68% with the ext. battery this time), it just wants to turn itself off. It seems to happen when the phone is "sleeping", it's never done it when I'm actively using the phone so it's not an overheating issue.
It's not really annoying since it doesn't happen often, it just confuses me.
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I've only had this happen a few times and was wondering if anyone had this happen to them also. I'm rooted and run custom roms, it doesn't seem to be rom or kernel dependent.
For example, I had my phone on since noon and haven't really used it since then except a few times to check the time. I just pulled my phone out of my pocket and hit the power button... nothing. I held it down and it started to boot up. When this happens the battery is never dead (it was at 68% with the ext. battery this time), it just wants to turn itself off. It seems to happen when the phone is "sleeping", it's never done it when I'm actively using the phone so it's not an overheating issue.
It's not really annoying since it doesn't happen often, it just confuses me.
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still you might want to check the rom and kernel just in case, either re-flash or change.
if the problem still happens, use your warranty and get a new phone.
what rom, kernel, and recovery are you using?
I actually just happened earlier again. Got a text from a friend that she was here, so I went down and let her in, came back up and went to check my phone a few minutes later and it was off. WTF.
I'm currently using Nils newest business sense with the OC'd ICS kernel and the latest Amon Ra recovery. This used to happen on GB also so it's not a rom/kernel problem IMO.
It happens so sporadically (except for tonight apparently) that it's maybe happened 5 times since I got it on release day.
Maybe I have the governor in cpu master set too low? I have it at the lowest of 384 MHz, I've always wondered this: whats the difference between conservative and powersave?
did it happen while you were on stock GB or on a custom rom and kernel? maybe try relocking and running stock for a while and see what happens?
I honestly don't remember, it's been too long lol. It's not worth it to go back to stock and relock considering I like ICS too much.
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I actually just happened earlier again.
I'm currently using the OC'd ICS kernel
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that's the issue right there, run the stock kernel at stock speeds.
How could it be the ICS kernel when it's happened on GB also?
Which OC? I've read that the 1.8 causes random stuff like this, but 1.7 doesn't.
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3.0.16-g4a9c8a3 SebastianFM #1 is what the kernel info says
The zip name is Overclocked_kernel_v1.20_1836_MHz_by_sebastianFM.zip
Not all phones can handle overclocking.
Mine is stable about 98% of the time, it may actually be the extended battery that is causing the issue.
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Mine is stable about 98% of the time, it may actually be the extended battery that is causing the issue.
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9x out of 10 random reboots are from either undervolting too low or overclocking too high.
I went back to the stock kernel since it seemed to be a little choppy with the oc'd kernel. That may have been the problem after all.
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