Flyer pen nib question - HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G

Just started using the Flyer pen tonight and noticed that the nib (point) is somewhat "loose". Not a lot, but it moves in & out of the pen by about 1mm. Is that normal? It sounds very "clicky" when writing on the screen.

yes, perfectly normal.
That's how it measures the pressure you use.

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[Q] Decreased screen response with official Malata Case

Hello all,
I purchased an M1 Official Malata Case for my Gtab. I ordered it from it2steve, received it yesterday and it looks and fits great.
One problem...
It now seems that my screen is less responsive. I specifically notice it around the corners and around the right edge (same edge as home keys). Its becoming a problem with ADW as it is difficult to hit the onscreen button to open the program launcher and difficult to hit the Home button located at the top taskbar.
When I take the tablet out of the case there does not seem to be a problem. I have tried recalibrating using the took by gojimi and it does not seem to make a difference. I also have a Skinomi screen protector on, which I do feel had reduced the response already slightly, but it is now much worse with the case. I am also running Vegan 5.11.
Let me know what you think.
Maybe,Magnet will affect the capacitive touch screen.
I have noticed that the right hand side of my screen is a bit less sensitive than the left, but I had not associated that with the use of the case. (I have an m1 case as well). I also remember this being mentioned in another forum by a frequent contributor here.. (the lack of sensitivity, not its associated with the case).
It is a bit annoying to have to hit a button twice (and sometimes messes me up in angry birds) but it is not that severe in my case.
Dan
I too have chimed in on a couple of these posts adn I origionally thought it was the case as well, as it just seemed to be in the upper right hand corner. However I still have that issue and noticed last week (when I actually started typing more) that I was having an issue with anothe spot, right around my 'A' key.
I know that this has nothing to do with magnets or the edges of the case as now I'm playing around in the CLIP. I use Gojimi's calibration app but I'm personally leaning more to 'it doesn't like to wake up properly' as it seems to go away when I reboot?
I am pretty sure this is because of the case (to be precise, it is the part that wrap around and infront of the tablet)case.
I have an apad case and had the same problem. My tab has no problem outside of the case.
To solve the problem, I had to cut out the leather part that wrap around the tab and use a piece of velcro to keep the tab inside the case. I had no prolem now.
I am with you steve, that A key gets messed up.. and it does appear to be software, because it appears (my subjective opinion) that you can improve the sensitivity by doing simple things like hiding and exposing the keyboard. It also seems to be different depending on what you are doing.. for example, you would think that if it were a dead spot on the touchscreen, it would interfere with typing when you held it vertically, but it does not seem to.
BTW, is the clip case any good? I am debating whether to buy a dock from you
Dan
Maybe its just me but since i've received my M1... which i love. My touch screen seems too sensitive... i'm click stuff when its suppose to be scrolling... I'm going to say its not the case... Because my is doing the exact opposite.
on a side note when i originally got my gtab sensitivity was awful... i switched to the gingerbread rom and it seemed to fix itself.
All the more reason for making the switch once it pops into Beta!
I have one of the M1 cases and the Skinomi screen protector and just did some tests with and without the case. I can not discern any difference at all when the case is on.
The main problem is that your fingertip is less compatible than your finger pad due to calluses, etc... With the case on you cannot get a clean shot at the extreme most corners. You can only hit it with your fingertip. This will vary by person. A construction worker will have a harder time than a surgeon. When you take it out of the case, you are hitting the area square with your whole pad.
Is anybody else still experiencing this with the M1 case? I'm trying to decide between the M1, P3 and the Clip and decreased screen response would be a huge deal breaker for me.
clankfu said:
Is anybody else still experiencing this with the M1 case? I'm trying to decide between the M1, P3 and the Clip and decreased screen response would be a huge deal breaker for me.
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Did you read my response? It is not the case.
TEK112 said:
Did you read my response? It is not the case.
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Yea, I did but not sure I totally follow what you're saying. Why would a person use only fingertips with a case as opposed to their whole finger pad without one?
clankfu said:
Yea, I did but not sure I totally follow what you're saying. Why would a person use only fingertips with a case as opposed to their whole finger pad without one?
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The case is not flush against the device. On the edges where it covers the screen there is an ever-so-slight upward curve (just the nature of dealing with this material). So, when you try to press the edge of the screen where it meets the edge of the case your finger is partially blocked by the case. That means that sometimes only the tip of your finger makes contact and sometimes that is not enough to trigger the action you desire. So, I think people were experiencing this occasional malfunction and blaming it on the case. The case is sort-of to blame, but it does not reduce screen sensitivity.
Do that make more sense?
TEK112 said:
The case is not flush against the device. On the edges where it covers the screen there is an ever-so-slight upward curve (just the nature of dealing with this material). So, when you try to press the edge of the screen where it meets the edge of the case your finger is partially blocked by the case. That means that sometimes only the tip of your finger makes contact and sometimes that is not enough to trigger the action you desire. So, I think people were experiencing this occasional malfunction and blaming it on the case. The case is sort-of to blame, but it does not reduce screen sensitivity.
Do that make more sense?
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Yea, I think I got it. Thanks for the clarification.
Maybe I'll opt for the Clip since it doesn't seem to cover any of the screen.
clankfu said:
Yea, I think I got it. Thanks for the clarification.
Maybe I'll opt for the Clip since it doesn't seem to cover any of the screen.
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I am looking to do the same, eventually. However, even if I didn't buy the M1, I still can't justify $50 for a case. That is almost the price of 2 M1's.
Yea, the price is making me think twice about it.

Clip for the pen

added a little something to my pen for ease of bring it around.
coz I tend to clip my other pens either to my shirt pocket or pants pockets.
in the mean time will have to wait for the PO s600 case...and it expensive
Just bought a cheap mechanical pencil which came with a clip. transferred it to my scribe pen but suffered a little scratch, as both are metallic. here's the pic.
also a screenshot of my power status and consumption.
unplugged at 4am till now. started watching videos, listening to music, camera, internet, email, Facebook.
all on push settings. and I didn't put he flyer on sleep mode between 2300-0600 (this was default under power management)
this post, taking of picture of the pen, screenshots and uploading were all done via the flyer.
uploaded via mediafire.
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Awesome on the pen. I can't believe there is no attaching device on it from the factory. Will have to look into that.
precisely.
as it is, i'm already a person who is very prone to losing pens/pencils lol
sharpie cap
You can also use a small Sharpie cap . It fits well. Makes the pen actually more like a real pen in size. However the metal clip looks much nicer.

Accessories for N2E

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Well, there is not much on accessories side for Nook STR. Cover, screen protector, external light and SD cards.
I'll stick with my cheapo cover from amazon.
apeine said:
Well, there is not much on accessories side for Nook STR. Cover, screen protector, external light and SD cards.
I'll stick with my cheapo cover from amazon.
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Link to cheapo cover on Amazon, please?
Jrec,
The cover is the Casecrown one. Was cheaper a couple of weeks ago. It fits snuggly, blocks only SD cover, and it makes a little harder to hit the button savior arrow on the right side. Besides that, a winner.
Casecrown cover
Thanks! I trust that in time we'll see lots more after market stuff for the N2E.
jrec said:
Thanks! I trust that in time we'll see lots more after market stuff for the N2E.
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I really like the stock cover from B&N.
A Great Light For N2E...
I just bought the Kandle Ozeri II light for my N2E it works great. Amazon has it for $25.00 (not able to post links yet). It runs on the button batteries two for 20 hours. At first I was against this but you can by 25 for $5 on Amazon. It also has two settings for brightness however the lowest setting works great for me with no dark spots on the screen. Some of the reviews stated it looked cheap and some of the clips have broken on them. Mine seems good so far but I'm careful putting it on and taking it off.
Mine even goes on with the nook cover (Lautner Case) I just got at Barnes. When I slide the light on I still put the clip in between the cover and the back of the device. But I think it would fit over the case also.
Also one more thing it does block the power button when you clip it on top of the N2E but I turn my device on before I stick the light on.
Hi,
Has anyone insights about stylus ? (cf. "Simple-Touch-Reader-Generation-Accessories" on Amazon)
Thx !
Have a Verso Arc Rechargeable reading light, and it fits perfectly on my nook.
USB keyboard
Would love to buy a working USB keyboard/dock, once it exists.
olivierkes said:
Hi,
Has anyone insights about stylus ? (cf. "Simple-Touch-Reader-Generation-Accessories" on Amazon)
Thx !
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There will not be a stylus for the Nook STR that will offer any sort of precision because of the IR touchscreen. IR touchscreens aren't extremely accurate and require a large contact area on the screen to reliably pick up the touch. It's not capacitive, so a capacitive stylus won't do you any good, and neither will a typical stylus for a DS or palm or other device sporting a resistive touchscreen (resistive touchscreens can essentially be poked with anything and that anything can be used as a stylus)
Simply put, it's because of the IR touchscreen needing such a big contact area that you're not going to see any effective stylus, ever.
However, a finger and a whiteboard widget does result in an effective notepad.
dorino1 said:
There will not be a stylus for the Nook STR that will offer any sort of precision because of the IR touchscreen. IR touchscreens aren't extremely accurate and require a large contact area on the screen to reliably pick up the touch. It's not capacitive, so a capacitive stylus won't do you any good, and neither will a typical stylus for a DS or palm or other device sporting a resistive touchscreen (resistive touchscreens can essentially be poked with anything and that anything can be used as a stylus)
Simply put, it's because of the IR touchscreen needing such a big contact area that you're not going to see any effective stylus, ever.
However, a finger and a whiteboard widget does result in an effective notepad.
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I picked up an iFrogz stylus from Staples for my phone it works great on the Touch too. It's got a soft tip so it's not going to mess with the screen and it's accurate enough to work or write with.
I use the rubber on the end of a pencil to hit chromium browser tabs while in vncviewer... seeing as it's not a capacitive screen
rather good...

Magic pen upside down

Hey, have I just noticed this last night. If you use the top of the magic pen on the screen, it works just like your finger does. More specifically, it works like a capacitive stylus would! This wasn't advertised as a feature, was it? If not, I'm glad I figured it out. It makes it so I only have to use my fingers sporadically.
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HOLY CRAP YOU'RE RIGHT!!!!!!
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It's an old trick to use the negative side of a battery on a capacitive screen for a makeshift stylus. Since the negative side of the battery is cap side, it takes advantage of said trick.
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Actually it has nothing to do with a battery..
It's just a metal conductor touching your fingers with a large contact area, you could use a frozen sausage!
Use the back of a teaspoon on the screen and it works just as well!
Take care though, the metal can easily scratch the screen.
Best thing to do is attach a small piece of conductive foam (the soft black kind that delicate IC's are sold in) to the top of the pen.
Farsquidge said:
Actually it has nothing to do with a battery..
It's just a metal conductor touching your fingers with a large contact area, you could use a frozen sausage!
Use the back of a teaspoon on the screen and it works just as well!
Take care though, the metal can easily scratch the screen.
Best thing to do is attach a small piece of conductive foam (the soft black kind that delicate IC's are sold in) to the top of the pen.
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I will somewhat disagree.
While the pen may act as a conductor, holding the pen with a pair of insulated pliers and using it upside down also works. Thus, it is the battery as well
Sometimes I shouldn't be allowed to play with stuff when I get bored.
Regardless, it is a neat unintended feature
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kardain said:
I will somewhat disagree.
While the pen may act as a conductor, holding the pen with a pair of insulated pliers and using it upside down also works. Thus, it is the battery as well
Sometimes I shouldn't be allowed to play with stuff when I get bored.
Regardless, it is a neat unintended feature
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Agreed, it will work this way due to negative charge on capacitive coupling but we always look at MISS (Make it simple, stupid!)
If i can explain to readers, a better use of their pen with a nice bit of conductive foam on the top (EVEN if the battery is missing or completely flat) then that is the best option in my opinion, no need for confrontation.
Oh, BTW, your choice of pliers will have an effect on your experiment! If they have any metal content, the capacitive coupling pick-up from your hand is increased, just try it with non-conductive plastic tweezers/forceps and it won't work... We ain't talkin miiliamps here, were talkin nanoamps...
Farsquidge said:
Actually it has nothing to do with a battery..
It's just a metal conductor touching your fingers with a large contact area, you could use a frozen sausage!
Use the back of a teaspoon on the screen and it works just as well!
Take care though, the metal can easily scratch the screen.
Best thing to do is attach a small piece of conductive foam (the soft black kind that delicate IC's are sold in) to the top of the pen.
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List if things that worked
1 frozen sausage
2 popcicle
3 Starbucks straw with frapp in it
4 back of pen with battery taken out
5 sweat from my face from laughing so hard
Ps this all works on my EVO 3d as well
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Neat that those things work and all, but how cumbersome is it to use
some hulking monstrosity as a makeshift stylus that is intended to be used for delicate/precise touches such as drawing? Wrap a leaf blower in foil and connect that to 300 feet of copper wire which is spun around your body and leave a length of wire as long as your finger coming off the top of your hand and you don't even have to hold it!
Sent.
thurstroubadours said:
Hey, have I just noticed this last night. If you use the top of the magic pen on the screen, it works just like your finger does. More specifically, it works like a capacitive stylus would! This wasn't advertised as a feature, was it? If not, I'm glad I figured it out. It makes it so I only have to use my fingers sporadically.
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Yep this is a little old-- New news is that when Honeycomb drops it's supposed to have support for the pen tip to be used as the stylus.

[Q] Problem with Using S-Pen

So I just got my Note II last night and so far I love it. However, the S-Pen isn't working correctly (or I just don't know how to use it). When writing a note, the writing begins as soon as my pen is close to the screen and all my writing is connected and I can barely read it. Also, if I use the pen to select an app, sometimes it doesn't detect the pen and other times the item is launched as soon as the pen is close. I read that you need to keep the pen at a 45 degree angle, which I have tried, but still doesn't work very good. Is there a way to reset the pen feature? Is there some feature I need to enable/disable? Is it because of my Zagg screen protector?
Any help would be greatly appreciated as I want to use the pen but can't with the current issue.
Thanks,
Cary2238
you tried the pen banging method? Seems to work for some at least on overly sensitive pen.
johnchad14 said:
you tried the pen banging method? Seems to work for some at least on overly sensitive pen.
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You mean just bang the tip on something like a desk?
You should try to keep the pen perpendicular to the screen or 90°. Not 45°!
Does you pen nib move in and out when you put your finger on it? It should move in and out slightly. Maybe just under 1mm. You should only be able to write when the nib is pressed in. If you are able to write without the pen nib being in contact with the screen the nib is probably getting stuck.
I do not suggest you bang it against a hard surface although many claim that it works. You could try tapping it repeatedly against a hard surface (a hand mirror!?) to see if you can loosen it.
Dmwitz said:
You should try to keep the pen perpendicular to the screen or 90°. Not 45°!
Does you pen nib move in and out when you put your finger on it? It should move in and out slightly. Maybe just under 1mm. You should only be able to write when the nib is pressed in. If you are able to write without the pen nib being in contact with the screen the nib is probably getting stuck.
I do not suggest you bang it against a hard surface although many claim that it works. You could try tapping it repeatedly against a hard surface (a hand mirror!?) to see if you can loosen it.
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Thanks Dmwitz. Taping it several times seems to have loosened the tip and the pen works a lot better. :good:
I am having the same issue as the OP is having. I've tried the tapping mentioned but doesn't seem to help.
Weird how this is happening. If i can't figure out out I'll be returning mine for another one.
Ok, I had to really bang on the tip but all seems to be much much better. I just kept on letting the tip of the pen bounce off the top of my glass top table and then went into a new "note" and tried it, now it seems to be working likes is supposed to.
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Jetdr said:
I am having the same issue as the OP is having. I've tried the tapping mentioned but doesn't seem to help.
Weird how this is happening. If i can't figure out out I'll be returning mine for another one.
Ok, I had to really bang on the tip but all seems to be much much better. I just kept on letting the tip of the pen bounce off the top of my glass top table and then went into a new "note" and tried it, now it seems to be working likes is supposed to.
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I had the same problem. The bang method only made it worse for me. It got to the point where I couldn't use it. I returned the phone and got a new one. Doesn't do it anymore. Glad to hear it is working better but I have a feeling it's going to happen again. Worse case, they are only $30 on amazon.
Best of luck.

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