A guy from another forum, Triforce, made me notice this:
If the phone its idle, it will show UMTS, but if its transferring data it will have HSPA.
Anyone have experienced this with an AT&T Atrix?.
I tought I didn't have HSPA, but I was wrong .
Yes i just realized that. You can use an app called "Network switcher alert". It always switches from umts to hsdpa after you turn screen on. Is there any app to lock only hsdpa?
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josuetenista said:
Yes i just realized that. You can use an app called "Network switcher alert". It always switches from umts to hsdpa after you turn screen on. Is there any app to lock only hsdpa?
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Maybe its something related to the phone system, meant to save battery?.
Its not a big deal, since you have HSPA when you transfer data. You should not need HSPA when the phone its idle ;P.
Did you solve your radio issues?. I used the 4.1.8.3 the whole day and it works perfectly.
The phone never gets hot, not even under heavy usage.
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Maybe its something related to the phone system, meant to save battery?.
Its not a big deal, since you have HSPA when you transfer data. You should not need HSPA when the phone its idle ;P.
Did you solve your radio issues?. I used the 4.1.8.3 the whole day and it works perfectly.
The phone never gets hot, not even heavy usage.
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I am using the 4.1.8.3 radio and works just ok. I tried all the possible radios and same result: dropped calls, poor internet connection. In conclusion my SIM card is failing. Or could it be something hardware related?
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I am using the 4.1.8.3 radio and works just ok. I tried all the possible radios and same result: dropped calls, poor internet connection. In conclusion my SIM card is failing. Or could it be something hardware related?
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I'm using the 4.1.8.3 rom with latest Gingerblur and its working fine.
Sometimes I loose signal completely, but the signal returns after a few seconds.
I see it flip from umts to hspa as well. My question is what is the difference from hspa and hsdpa? Sometimes I see the network type change to hsdpa. Anyone know why and what the difference is, if any...
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I see it flip from umts to hspa as well. My question is what is the difference from hspa and hsdpa? Sometimes I see the network type change to hsdpa. Anyone know why and what the difference is, if any...
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HSDPA stands for High Speed Downlink Packet Access
HSUPA stands for High Speed Uplink Packet Access
HSPA stands for High Speed Packet Access and it includes both protocols above.
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Hi All,
Ever since I debranded my phone when I first got it, I almost constantly get "H" rather than "3G" in my home. However, lately I have been getting a mixture of H and 3G. Is AT&T "downgrading" their network or something?! Knowing that they are crappy, I would not be surprised if they are actually starting to "cap" or "throttle" the speed of their network in some areas.
Anyone else experience a similar thing?
No they didn't. H comes in when you do something like go on the browser. Otherwise it just says 3g but its really h
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No they didn't. H comes in when you do something like go on the browser. Otherwise it just says 3g but its really h
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That's the thing, even when I go on the browser it sometimes stays on 3G.
Afaik they are not throttling their service on the 3g end only when they light up the lte. Mine has been consistently h unless it's idle as someone suggested.
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Sometimes. Not since switching from Rendeiros last rom to his latest. I would reboot then try it again with wat u were doing. That worked for me
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Yep same here. 3g as I type this, obviously not idle... Been seeing it more lately but not all the time
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I picked up my pebble blue SGS III about 5 hours ago and I noticed it is constantly cycling between the above data speeds.
Not sure what to do or how to problem solve this
I'm in the USA on at&t using a LTE micro sim
I have attached my APN settings.
Anyone else seeing this issue
Any help would be appreciated
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I picked up my pebble blue SGS III about 5 hours ago and I noticed it is constantly cycling between the above data speeds.
Not sure what to do or how to problem solve this
I'm in the USA on at&t using a LTE micro sim
I have attached my APN settings.
Anyone else seeing this issue
Any help would be appreciated
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I'm also using a micro Sim from my hox which is 4g lte. I don't know if that matters. But I am experiencing this as well. I'm with AT&T
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This is the normal function on 3G. When you have data transmission it will use H+ or H, but when it finished, it returns to 3G to save battery.
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This is the normal function on 3G. When you have data transmission it will use H+ or H, but when it finished, it returns to 3G to save battery.
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Ic, and thank you.
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This is the normal function on 3G. When you have data transmission it will use H+ or H, but when it finished, it returns to 3G to save battery.
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Sh!t your right thank you. As soon as I opened speed test it went right to H+
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I have this too with my SGS3 on AT&T. It makes sense I guess, but I've never experienced the constant cycling on any other phone I've had. It does appear to throttle up to H+ when using data but it just seems to act like a tweaked out druggy on the Vegas strip when idle.
I am trying to understand this. My AT&T GS2 never did this, but my int'l GS3 does constantly. Seems like there is more to the story. What am I missing?
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I am trying to understand this. My AT&T GS2 never did this, but my int'l GS3 does constantly. Seems like there is more to the story. What am I missing?
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As an above poster said, 3G and E (EDGE) takes up less battery than H and H+ so the phone automatically switches to 3G/E when there's no data being transmitted to save battery.
I had a question for you guys using the international on AT&T.
On my GS2 I remember when data was not being used and was idle the signal meter would show 3G and switch to UMTS and when I used the connection it would switch to H/H+ HSPA.
With my GS3 however, it's constantly showing H even when it's idle. It's NEVER really goes into UMTS mode even when it's idle. I've seen it switch to 3G for a split second every now and then, but then switches right back to H in a split second. In my status I see it's using the HSPA network, not UMTS. The times that I saw it switch to 3g for a split second (I happened to have the status open) I saw it switch to UMTS then switch right back to HSPA.
I know switching to UMTS when the connection is idle saves battery life So I'm wondering since mine doesnt switch to UMTS if it's affecting the battery life
I've tried different modems, in network settings it's set to Auto.
So my question (after that wall of text) is does your phone switch the UMTS when it's idle and show 3G? Or is it constantly showing H like mine?
I'm trying to figure out why the hell it wont stay in UMTS when there is no data activity. If it does switch to 3G/UMTS when it's idle anyone have any ideas what could be going on with mine?
anyone? lol
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I had a question for you guys using the international on AT&T.
On my GS2 I remember when data was not being used and was idle the signal meter would show 3G and switch to UMTS and when I used the connection it would switch to H/H+ HSPA.
With my GS3 however, it's constantly showing H even when it's idle. It's NEVER really goes into UMTS mode even when it's idle. I've seen it switch to 3G for a split second every now and then, but then switches right back to H in a split second. In my status I see it's using the HSPA network, not UMTS. The times that I saw it switch to 3g for a split second (I happened to have the status open) I saw it switch to UMTS then switch right back to HSPA.
I know switching to UMTS when the connection is idle saves battery life So I'm wondering since mine doesnt switch to UMTS if it's affecting the battery life
I've tried different modems, in network settings it's set to Auto.
So my question (after that wall of text) is does your phone switch the UMTS when it's idle and show 3G? Or is it constantly showing H like mine?
I'm trying to figure out why the hell it wont stay in UMTS when there is no data activity. If it does switch to 3G/UMTS when it's idle anyone have any ideas what could be going on with mine?
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gee2012 said:
You posted in the wrong thread, this is for the Inetnational Galaxy S3, go to the US Forum for AT&T
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Reading fail. Look at the first line of the OP and try again.
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Reading fail. Look at the first line of the OP and try again.
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No need to , are you one of the rare people that never makes a misstake.
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No need to , are you one of the rare people that never makes a misstake.
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Yes.
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anyone? lol
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I actually asked this question myself a few weeks back and never got a straight answer. It would be nice to know, since mine is always on H. My S2 did the same thing, would always switch to 3g when idle.
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Maybe you guys should try gokhanmorals fast dormancy app from the play store.
And maybe take a look at the thread that was floating around here about proper fast dormancy settings for at&t.
Mine switches from h to 3g as soon as it stops transferring data.
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Mine switches to 3G as soon as data is stopped transferring. No problems here. and it will sit on 3G until data kicks in again and picks up to H+
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Maybe you guys should try gokhanmorals fast dormancy app from the play store.
And maybe take a look at the thread that was floating around here about proper fast dormancy settings for at&t.
Mine switches from h to 3g as soon as it stops transferring data.
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Mine switches to 3G as soon as data is stopped transferring. No problems here. and it will sit on 3G until data kicks in again and picks up to H+
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hmm so it also happens to K Rich's phone. Can you do me a favor? from the dialer hit *#0011# what band does it say when it's connected to 3G/UMTS?
I can also get it to stay on 3G constantly by changing a setting in the advanced phone control menu, but then it doesnt switch to HSPA when data is active.
Sorry never mind. It doesnt do it anymore since i am on LG8 :/
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Sorry never mind. It doesnt do it anymore since i am on LG8 :/
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So yours is also sticking on H?
Correct
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Maybe its just an "issue" with CM9/10?
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I am on stock...
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I am on stock...
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ditto, well at least this week
Does Globe telecom philippines supports fast dormancy? There are others saying they do support and others saying they don't.
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Does Globe telecom philippines supports fast dormancy? There are others saying they do support and others saying they don't.
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They do support the fastdormancy in globe... I have a friend who works in Globe, technical department and he confirmed that they are using fastdormancy. I also confirmed by calling the customer support. Sad to say I was explaining for almost 30 to 45 minutes to get the answer as MOST OF THEM DIDNT KNEW what in the heaven I am talking about... but at last after 30 to 45 minutes I got the confirmation...
Thanks man for your effort.
Any time buddy...
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They do support the fastdormancy in globe... I have a friend who works in Globe, technical department and he confirmed that they are using fastdormancy. I also confirmed by calling the customer support. Sad to say I was explaining for almost 30 to 45 minutes to get the answer as MOST OF THEM DIDNT KNEW what in the heaven I am talking about... but at last after 30 to 45 minutes I got the confirmation...
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is it practical for us to disable fastdormancy on our gs3 running on globe network?what are the implications on disabling fastdormancy if it is supported by globe?
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is it practical for us to disable fastdormancy on our gs3 running on globe network?what are the implications on disabling fastdormancy if it is supported by globe?
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You can disable the fastdormancy if you want. there is an app developed by GOKHANMORAL called "togle fastdormancy for galaxy s3". you can find it on the forum. but my suggestion is keep it on as it saves battery if you are using GLOBE. I am not aware if it is supported in SMART or SUN network...
i highly doubt SUN has fd.. yeah, Globe does have fd but i disable it to save battery... i dont really use it
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i highly doubt SUN has fd.. yeah, Globe does have fd but i disable it to save battery... i dont really use it
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from what i understand i suggest you leave it enabled because globe supports fd. it will save you more battery than disabling it as it will draw more battery from your device as it stays on the highest possible cignal type or powerstate. i assume when you said "i dont really use it" is because your not enabling mobile data on your s3?
i rarely enable data on my S3 since I am on prepaid and finals week is here, i need to save some money lol
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from what i understand i suggest you leave it enabled because globe supports fd. it will save you more battery than disabling it as it will draw more battery from your device as it stays on the highest possible cignal type or powerstate. i assume when you said "i dont really use it" is because your not enabling mobile data on your s3?
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This is correct although you will get slower overall speeds since it is moving from the lower, battery efficient 3g states to the faster, battery draining h+ states in twenty second intervals.
If battery is your priority leave it enabled, if you want the fastest speeds disable it- but it will drain fast and you will have no signal in areas that only have the old antennas.
Globe tweaked it recently, before it would go all the way down to g, now it idles in 3g.
Personally I leave it enabled as losing signal is not an option for me.
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i rarely enable data on my S3 since I am on prepaid and finals week is here, i need to save some money lol
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A simple explanation...
1. If your carrier supports the fastdormancy AND you are using DATA frequently than LEAVE IT ENABLED AS IT WILL SAVE THE BATTERY...
2. If your carrier doesnt support the fastdoemancy AND you are using DATA OR NOT, disable it as it will save the battery...
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This is correct although you will get slower overall speeds since it is moving from the lower, battery efficient 3g states to the faster, battery draining h+ states in twenty second intervals.
If battery is your priority leave it enabled, if you want the fastest speeds disable it- but it will drain fast and you will have no signal in areas that only have the old antennas.
Globe tweaked it recently, before it would go all the way down to g, now it idles in 3g.
Personally I leave it enabled as losing signal is not an option for me.
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I occasionaly disable fd when im streaming movies on my ps3 tethered on my s3 or if i want it to stay on H+. The only time i enable it is when im on travel. But it really doesnt matter if your on a 2g network or if you manually set your connection to gsm. Anyway guys how much speed are you getting on globe's HSPA+?im currently here in davao and here is my speedtest attached with fd disabled.
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I occasionaly disable fd when im streaming movies on my ps3 tethered on my s3 or if i want it to stay on H+. The only time i enable it is when im on travel. But it really doesnt matter if your on a 2g network or if you manually set your connection to gsm. Anyway guys how much speed are you getting on globe's HSPA+?im currently here in davao and here is my speedtest attached with fd disabled.
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If you move into an area that is only 2g and you have fd disabled you will not have cellular signal. There are still some areas in manila and a lot in the farther provinces that are 2g only. You will not be able to make calls, sms, etc.
Imho it's wiser to leave it on as patel suggests.
But hey those are good speeds! Never had those in any part of manila, laguna or batangas. Looks like the bandwidth is all yours. Lucky you
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H+ in Globe is insane fast. I once downloaded 900+MB in less than an hour
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If you move into an area that is only 2g and you have fd disabled you will not have cellular signal. There are still some areas in manila and a lot in the farther provinces that are 2g only. You will not be able to make calls, sms, etc.
Imho it's wiser to leave it on as patel suggests.
But hey those are good speeds! Never had those in any part of manila, laguna or batangas. Looks like the bandwidth is all yours. Lucky you
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FYI you will still have cell signal on 2g and fast dormancy disabled. There is no fd on a 2g network. Enabled or disabled it will ignore what you have set.
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FYI you will still have cell signal on 2g and fast dormancy disabled. There is no fd on a 2g network. Enabled or disabled it will ignore what you have set.
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Actually you won't.
Disabling fast dormancy essentially turns off the 2g antennas of the phone. You can search this forum and you will see posts from last year stating people losing signal in places like capiz, batangas etc losing cellular signal with fb disabled and getting back the signal when enabling it.
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Actually you won't.
Disabling fast dormancy essentially turns off the 2g antennas of the phone. You can search this forum and you will see posts from last year stating people losing signal in places like capiz, batangas etc losing cellular signal with fb disabled and getting back the signal when enabling it.
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I provided screenshots for you too see im running on 2g with fd disabled. Fd doesnt disable 2g networks at all. It only switches powerstates if your connected on 3g. I guess people not having signal is because maybe they have set their phones to only search and connect on wcdma networks.
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Actually you won't. <br />
Disabling fast dormancy essentially turns off the 2g antennas of the phone. You can search this forum and you will see posts from last year stating people losing signal in places like capiz, batangas etc losing cellular signal with fb disabled and getting back the signal when enabling it. <br />
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I provided screenshots for you too see im running on 2g with fd disabled. Fd doesnt disable 2g networks at all. It only switches powerstates if your connected on 3g. I guess people not having signal is because maybe they have set their phones to only search and connect on wcdma networks.<br />
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Having gprs registered in your phone doesn't necessarily mean you're in a 2g area only.
You're in an area that has 3g but has shifted you to lower bandwidth most probably due to congestion. It's a different story when you're in an area that has no 3g.
Afaik switching to lower power states is disabling the higher powered antennas and switching to the lower powered ones. The inverse also holds true.
You will only see the difference if you are in a 2g only area for an extended time. Try staying in a 2g only place like some areas of san Juan batangas and you will see that you're the only one with no signal while your friends dumb phones will be perfectly fine.
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rab1412000 said:
Having gprs registered in your phone doesn't necessarily mean you're in a 2g area only.
You're in an area that has 3g but has shifted you to lower bandwidth most probably due to congestion. It's a different story when you're in an area that has no 3g.
Afaik switching to lower power states is disabling the higher powered antennas and switching to the lower powered ones. The inverse also holds true.
You will only see the difference if you are in a 2g only area for an extended time. Try staying in a 2g only place like some areas of san Juan batangas and you will see that you're the only one with no signal while your friends dumb phones will be perfectly fine.
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As ive said. Im currently in davao. But im from a province from surigao del sur.and i tell you theres no such thing as 3g on those areas. My s2 has always been set to only connect to a 2g network as theres no point on setting it to auto switch between gsm and wcdma as there is no 3g network in my province. My s3 is the oposite. Iv set it to only connect on wcdma because data is always enabled on this device. I only have signal loss on my s3 if im in an area where there is no 3g. And both my devices hav fb disabled. I hope this clears everything.
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... I only have signal loss on my s3 if im in an area where there is no 3g...
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Lol you just basically proved my point :high five:
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Does anyone know a method just to stick with h+ data signals instead of switching to 3g.
Fyi in my area 3g reception is poor n always toggle between h+ n 3g.
The h+ signal is pretty good n it's enough for use also.
Therefore I thought if I can stick with h+ it will save my battery life.
Please comment your idea or solution.
Thnx in advance
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You can only set your phone to your mobile providers Mobile Data capabilities. It is not something you can set to work at just h+... this depends on the strength of your carrier in the particular area you are at. Your phone will pick up the best signal it can. Mine also goes back and forth, depending where my location is... and the building structure I'm at (and how much interference there is between buildings, etc)... unless it's some hardware you can attach (like antenna on inside of back cover) to boost signal.
I remember for my S2 device... someone posted a way to just have a certain mobile data signal... but it didn't really work, just had the symbol, but obviously still can only get what my phone was able to pick up.
If someone else knows a solution I haven't heard of, would like to hear it.
Oh thnx.
Plus no one will try to create a mod to use the less power signal instead of 3g. So seems like this is it.
But my idea was if a developer can make a mod to stop looking for better signals after achieving h+ that's it.
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milroy319 said:
Oh thnx.
Plus no one will try to create a mod to use the less power signal instead of 3g. So seems like this is it.
But my idea was if a developer can make a mod to stop looking for better signals after achieving h+ that's it.
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Lol... H+ stands for hsdpa/hspa ...it is 3.5g...faster than 3g
The phone runs on H+ during data usage and 3g for calls
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Lol... H+ stands for hsdpa/hspa ...it is 3.5g...faster than 3g
The phone runs on H+ during data usage and 3g for calls
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Oh my bad. Thnx for correcting me.
Anyway is there any way u know to then just stop on 3g cus I really don't want 3.5g.
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Unfortunately there are no ways reported for 3g and H+ toggle as far as I know
Only 2g to 3g toggle is known
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When there no data transfer it will show 3g and when data is being used it will show h+ or h
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Using sevice mode to select HSPA only, no UMTS ( 3G )