I hate to start a new battery thread but I've searched, read all the ones out there, and nothing seems to have helped. I just got this phone late last week and I first upgraded it to the latest OTA, then odin cww and finally installed com rom 1.3. Let me just say I've never seen a battery drop this quick. I haven't even activated the phone on my account because I'm so scared of how quickly I see it dropping without touching a thing on the phone. I also noticed the following:
baseband version
S:i500.04 V.ED03
Kernel Version
2.6.32.9
Build Number SCH-I500.ED01
The baseband and build ED0? don't seem to match up. Would this cause the problem? How do I fix that?
Just so that you get an idea, I've had the phone disconnected for 5hr 30min and I'm down to 55% battery with a fresh clean install of com rom 1.3. I did the battery calibration and that's about the only thing I've even installed on the phone. When I hit batt use here's what I get.
Display: 52%
WiFi 26%
cell standby 15%
Phone Idle 7%
I've had android for about a year and have an incredible that I love so I know that something just isn't right with this fascinate. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Mike
my understanding is that the build and baseband don;t have to be equal, baseband is modem/radio and build is just the rom i believe.
From what I hear, the only thing you have to keep track of is using an eclair modem with a froyo rom as there will be issues...
You can try going to the ED01 modem (works better for me vs ed03)
I also had battery "problems".. barely get through 12 hours without needed charge with little use.
I just installed Green power app from market.. it seems to work similarly to juice defender, just is easier to configure for the noob like me, and is MUCH more limited. works on the basis of only turning on transmission intermittently.
Now I can go 18+ hours and remain above 50%.. 80% if I don't touch my phone.
Turn off wifi when you're not connected, my phone lasts 36 hours using juice defender to turn off radios when screen is off
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The radio firmware makes or breaks the battery life on this phone. I've tried every combo of roms and radio firmwares. Go back to the DL09 or EA28 (my preference) radio firmware and recalibrate your battery bro. The eclair-era radio firmwares have proven to be much better than the newer ones.
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Com Rom is built off of ED01 so it will say that.
ED03 is the latest build basically the same as ED01 just 3 fixed some bug that had a few phones stuck on EA28 if I remember correctly.
I haven't noticed much battery difference between the different modem/radios, personally it seems like the kernels make a bigger difference to me.
Also if you just clear the battery stars to calibrate the battery the battery gauge will be messed up for a couple cycles, best if you run it all the way down too. One of tie batteries I was calibrating in my phone said 0% for almost an hour before it actually turned off.
These phones aren't great on battery life anyways. One of the good things about using a kernel like OTB included in com rom is it allows you to use aftermarket batteries and still charge then in the phone. I get the Samsung batteries (I think they are technically for the epic), out of China for $2 each. Have 5 of them right now the wife and I rotate through. We also have two external chargers, we both just carry a spare battery to use if our phones die during the day.
Thanks for the tips. I think I'm going to try the different radio files and see if that helps. I guess I was just wondering why my display shows as if it's using so much battery and if that was caused by some other conflict. I've had phones with bad battery life but this is just crazy. From the time I wrote the first post (a little less than 2 hrs ago) I've gone from 56% to 36% with nothing installed or running. That's just beyond bad battery life. Something is hosed. I'll try the radios and cross my fingers.
Have you tried under the task manager and choose the ram manager do the level 2 clear, should close everything that is running, that helps me quite a bit. Also auto rotate can be turned off when you aren't using it that will help battery life too.
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Thanks for the tips. I think I'm going to try the different radio files and see if that helps. I guess I was just wondering why my display shows as if it's using so much battery and if that was caused by some other conflict. I've had phones with bad battery life but this is just crazy. From the time I wrote the first post (a little less than 2 hrs ago) I've gone from 56% to 36% with nothing installed or running. That's just beyond bad battery life. Something is hosed. I'll try the radios and cross my fingers.
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As was stated earlier, turn off wifi when you are not using it, that will help a lot. Also under wifi settings, advanced, and change the wifi sleep policy to when screen is turned off. And when you look at those percentages under battery use are not a percentage of the total battery, just a percentage of whatever battery use there is. So if you are losing 8% of your battery per hour, that 52% next to display just means display is draining 52% of that 8% per hour drain. Display is almost always going to be the top drain because of the super amoled screen.
^^^ Yeah, display is most of it. Turn brightness down (as opposed to automatic or full brightness) and see how that helps. If that doesn't help, turn off mobile data until needed, if that doesn't help (should do this anyway) recalibrate your battery and cycle it like 2 times. Give it a couple days, it will go back to normal.
Radios are the biggest battery drain, not the screen, I've used airplane mode and watched movies with four hours of screen on time and used 20% battery, all you need to do is keep wifi off when not in use, it pings something like every 20s trying to find when you're in range of networks, 3g is your second biggest killer...also do not use auto task killers, for reasons I'm too lazy to get into...lowest screen brightness setting helps some but I've found it a pain going into bright sun and having to change it, the auto dimmer works rather well
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Click on the items in battery stats and tell us how long your display has actually been on. The display on this phone can fairly easily burn through 1%/minute of being on (in fact, doing the math, my phone's display is at just under 1%/minute right now).
And, personally, I hate JuiceDefender and those apps. They're not fixing the source of the problem, just doing a half assed job of duct taping over what might be tangentally related (while doing horrible things to syncing). Try to find what is _actually_ trying to keep the network awake if that is actually what is going on (the Facebook widget is known to utterly destroy battery life). Make sure apps are using Push instead of Pull notifications where ever possible (Pull uses an astronomically large amount of battery life in comparison to Push).
I get around 15 hours on any other radio than dl09, on which I get around 24-36 hours depending on how much I'm using to phone. Also make sure you turn off wifi when you aren't using it.
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thefunkbot said:
I get around 15 hours on any other radio than dl09, on which I get around 24-36 hours depending on how much I'm using to phone. Also make sure you turn off wifi when you aren't using it.
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Ok, thanks to everyone. I wanted to give you all a quick update in the hopes that this will help someone in the future. I replaced the radio file with EA28 and wow what a difference it made. I now don't see the percentages drop right before my eye and I have a shot of making it through the day. I'm also pretty surprised by the amount of battery the screen uses up. My AMOLED droid incredible usually shows the display as using the least percentage of battery. I guess the super really isn't that super.
One question I do have is if I go back down to DL09 to get the better battery life, what's the trade off?
I haven't noticed any differences between the DL09 radio and any Froyo radio.
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Hey everyone,
Ive head nothing but raving about the App Juice Defender and Ultimate Juice. Im personally having really bad battery life on my vibrant, and seems everyone is recommend this app. Im not running OCed, currently using Voodoo, have cycled battery recently, and I get around 6-8 hours on a battery. Although I know i'm somewhat of a high powered user, I think I should be getting better.
What is everyone using for settings in Juice Defender for settings, and is it really helping your battery life?
Thanks!
zimphishmonger said:
Hey everyone,
Ive head nothing but raving about the App Juice Defender and Ultimate Juice. Im personally having really bad battery life on my vibrant, and seems everyone is recommend this app. Im not running OCed, currently using Voodoo, have cycled battery recently, and I get around 6-8 hours on a battery. Although I know i'm somewhat of a high powered user, I think I should be getting better.
What is everyone using for settings in Juice Defender for settings, and is it really helping your battery life?
Thanks!
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I would also like to know this??
Master™ said:
I would also like to know this??
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Sorry to semi-thread jack... But from what i understand, one of the main features of juice-defender is that when your screen is off, so is mobile data. I used google voice for all of my sms, would they still come through if there was mobile data off?
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Sorry to semi-thread jack... But from what i understand, one of the main features of juice-defender is that when your screen is off, so is mobile data. I used google voice for all of my sms, would they still come through if there was mobile data off?
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No because GV uses data
Juice Defender will definitely save you battery, but it depends what type of user you are.
I used to love this app. It was one of my top 3 apps and I recommended this app to everyone I knew. It saved me a few hours of battery life with the default settings. But one day I decided to turn it off to see how my phone would preform. I noticed that JD slows down my phone (not too much, but since I play with my phone a lot, I do notice a difference). I kinda figured this since every time I turned my screen on, it would have to reconnect itself to 3G. It got a bit of annoying, but I'm pretty sure it won't bug that many people.
Now, my friend uses this app as well, and he gets amazing battery life with JD enabled. He only turns on his phone when he needs to (check email, responds to text, picks up a call, etc.)
So for the past month or so, I have stopped using JD. I'm the type of guy that touches my phone every 30 min or so. I like turn it on and mess with it just for the hell of it. So if you're like me, then I do not recommend this app, since you will notice a slight lag after turning the screen on with JD enabled.
Now if you're at work and only check your phone when you have to, then I highly recommend this app. It will definitely save you battery life. Don't know too much about the settings since I haven't touched it in awhile, but I mainly left it at the default settings.
Another tip that I noticed that saves battery is orientation. Ever since I disabled it in settings, I do notice a battery increase (I'm guessing the sensors are not always on causing it to save more battery?) Hope this little review helps zimp.
You can set it to turn on every 15 mins or whatever so you can still get your messages. I didn't like how it keep turn off my data every time the screen turned off even if it was only for a sec. I'm not convined that continually turn data on/off improves battery. If you leave phone on stand by for several hours then maybe, but I don't think a.power user gets much benefit from it. Also it is always running in the background so just having a widget to switch to plane mode might work better for you.
I actually used both and ended up uninstalling.. didn't really see much of a difference. look at my mods on my signature.. those nearly doubled it. i used juice plotter to graph the difference. that and I manually disable mobile and wifi with the power widgets. ya i spend a second pressing the button but works out better that way for me. so save the money and just disable it yourself.
also that when you use defender it takes a while for the data to turn back on when you open the screen compared to using the widget.
in short defender is basically you using the widgets but it does it automatically. BUT you are using an app to run all the time in the backround and that itself uses battery life... when i went to bed and turned off mobile and wifi. with my mod i didnt not lose 1% for those 8 hrs.. and went a full 24 hrs with no recharge..
i also have no task manager or cache cleaner.
real battery life depends on MOD, kernel, radio, and how you use it. these apps in my opinion are a waste. but it's up to you ...
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I actually used both and ended up uninstalling.. didn't really see much of a difference. look at my mods on my signature.. those nearly doubled it. i used juice plotter to graph the difference. that and I manually disable mobile and wifi with the power widgets. ya i spend a second pressing the button but works out better that way for me. so save the money and just disable it yourself.
also that when you use defender it takes a while for the data to turn back on when you open the screen compared to using the widget.
in short defender is basically you using the widgets but it does it automatically. BUT you are using an app to run all the time in the backround and that itself uses battery life... when i went to bed and turned off mobile and wifi. with my mod i didnt not lose 1% for those 8 hrs.. and went a full 24 hrs with no recharge..
i also have no task manager or cache cleaner.
real battery life depends on MOD, kernel, radio, and how you use it. these apps in my opinion are a waste. but it's up to you ...
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I am using Bionix 1.3 with KingKlick and I have been using it pretty heavily all day and I have about 75% left on battery (It's 5:30 PM right now)
I noticed way better battery life after uninstalling this app. At night, my battery would make it through with just 10% without changing, and half way through the next day. With JD, my battery dropped down to 2% when I would wake up.
Not for me.
To op, I used Juice Defender and Ultimate Juice and noticed it would slow my phone down and I would miss syncs and my information would go out of wack. I found the best way to conserve battery as an overuser is to turn off 3g. I use 2g 3g switcher. It allows you to switch between 3g and 2g. I gained at least 6 more hours on a full charge by turning it on only when I need the 3g speeds. Ie: downloading and surfing the net. For everything else Edge was more than enough. I went from roughly 12 hours medium-heavy use to 20-24. I'm also using Jac's uv voodoo kernel and vibrant 9.
I hope this helps,
Russ
HG! said:
I noticed way better battery life after uninstalling this app. At night, my battery would make it through with just 10% without changing, and half way through the next day. With JD, my battery dropped down to 2% when I would wake up.
Not for me.
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Agreed, I noticed an increase in battery life after uninstalling jd.
I did get better batery life after installing JAC's kernel (with undervolting) on top of bionix 1.3. I did not oc, yet. I read in the op you use vodoo, there is a JAC's kernel with voodoo written in with it now, but the process from going from your stock with voodoo to a new kernel with voodoo is admittedly beyond my experience level to talk about. That might garner some research on your part. The undervolting written into the kernel does extend battery life, I've been off my charger since about 9 this morning, normal to heavy use, currently at 43 percent battery left.
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use Tasker app. much better then JuiceDefender and much more options.....pretty much endless options. and it also supports all Locale Plug-ins.
Thanks for the recommendations! Interesting that so many of you actually had worse battery life after using it. May try it for another day and see how it works out.
Regarding the voodoo, I am still testing to see if voodoo uses more power or not. Theoretically it shouldn't, but who knows. its extremely easy to enable\disable voodoo, so easy that its worth keeping even if you keep it disabled, as its the same kernel as JAC's UV but + voodoo.
Appreciate the responses. I will play w/ JD for another day or so, will try tasker, adn see which has the best results.
To those that were worried about syncs like Voice, Emails, tweets, etc, its really easy to set it up so that those processes arent interrupted, especially w/ the ultimatejuice. I have it set up so it still syncs and background data apps like pandora work fine, just interested in everyones experience
Zim, I was having battery drain issues with jac's oc-uv kernel until I did the cycle/reset batt stats. Not I am getting GREAT battery life! You prolly already tried it but if not give it a shot.
Juice Defender has increased my battery life by x2.22...........really remarkable this program is!
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Master™ said:
I am using Bionix 1.3 with KingKlick and I have been using it pretty heavily all day and I have about 75% left on battery (It's 5:30 PM right now)
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So here's the situation...basically am getting about 12-14hrs of battery life. I have been switching roms, sticking mostly with bionix. However it doesn't matter what rom I still average about the same.
I'm not sure what I actually should be getting so I thought I would ask. I user my phone for basic use; texting, checking email, 30 min podcast, and an app or something. I don't game or watch videos.
Can we here what people are getting and if there is something that can be done to get more life on my battery?
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The other dozen threads on the same topic didn't provide enough information?
Use 2G/3G Network Switcher and stay in 2G mode unless you really need speeds faster than EDGE (downloading a podcast). For texting and email, 2G is fine and will help battery life. Also using Juice Defender can help as well.
Go download Auto Killer, and set it to whatever level you want.
Also, go wipe you battery stats.
See if that helps...
Yup I've done all the above. Just curious if I'm still getting what is standard. I've searched the forums but if you know the best place to look then point me in the right direction. Keep the advice coming
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12-14 hours is pretty good. Best I got was with Franken-Twiz 3. I think the J16 modem in Franken-Twiz 4 is killing my battery faster so you can flash Modem J12 or try Bionix 1.8 which has Modem J12 in it.
how do you wipe battery stats?
Yeah how do you wipe battery stats
The guy on the couch
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wipe battery stats
Welp with 3g and wifi off I'm easily getting 16hours and on average I'll have 50-70% left of my battery.
I just normally use it as a phone thou. You know some emails, text messages, some surfing.
Just in case you think I'm nuts heres a screen shot as of now. 98% with 3hours on the battery and 48% with 16hours on the battery.
Last night I went to bed at 10pm and my phone was off the charger since 6am and I had 72% on the battery.
I've learned the more you fiddle with your phone the more battery it uses obviously. I've had several phones so I don't have to constantly play with it. Play videos or stream and well it will eat batteries. Use GPS and wifi it will destroy your battery life. Of course I'm not a power miser, but honestly I use it when I need it and when I don't it just sits there until I do.
Got it thanks
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kizer said:
Welp with 3g and wifi off I'm easily getting 16hours and on average I'll have 50-70% left of my battery.
Last night I went to bed at 10pm and my phone was off the charger since 6am and I had 72% on the battery.
I've learned the more you fiddle with your phone the more battery it uses obviously. I've had several phones so I don't have to constantly play with it. Play videos or stream and well it will eat batteries. Use GPS and wifi it will destroy your battery life. Of course I'm not a power miser, but honestly I use it when I need it and when I don't it just sits there until I do.
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I'm getting similar performance with the JI6 OTA, and I generally leave both GPS and 3G on all the time. I just checked my battery stats and my phone's been off the charger for almost 4 hours and my battery percentage is still at 99%. Granted, I've only made two short calls and checked e-mail a few times but I'd call this very good performance. I also woke at 7:30am and surfed around on my phone reading forums and web sites (my display was on for the ENTIRE hour+) for over an hour this morning and when I plugged back in at 8:45 am, I'd used less than 10% battery. I'm also noticing that my phone is charging WAY faster than stock or JI2.
Personally, I have posted about this topic many times but I'm ignored. My battery was terrible before I rooted and did OCLF. After root+lag fix my battery literally tripled in life. I could go 2 days with the same amount of use. Watch videos, surf internet, make calls, do whatever and it would barely use my battery. After this JI6 update I am back to square one. I 'reconditioned' my battery by running it down to zero then charging it back up completely. It definitely helped but I'm still losing a percent by the minute just having the screen on.
Dont waste your time telling me to use juicedefender, turning off wifi, switching to 2g only, task killers, blah blah blah, or any of that crap. I've done it all. I"m still looking into the JI6 radio draining my battery though. Theres a lot of talk about that being an issue.
The JI6 Modem does drain your battery. No doubt about it. I've switched to JI2 and yes my GPS appeared to have suffered a bit and sometimes my Edge connection isn't as good as JI6, but way better battery life.
Or you can do what I do and leave your headphones plugged in and leave the music playing overnight. Seems to make my battery last about 2-4 hours more than it regularly would. Hope that helps
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I have uninstalled any battery app because I noticed they drained my battery faster. What I have noticed about the phone, when I charge it with lets say 25 percent still remaining it charges faster,, naturally,, but the battery drains much much much faster. To remedy this,,i use the phone until the battery icon is blank and blinking before I start charging the phone. Naturally, this causes the phone to need a substantial amount of time to charge however the battery doesn't drain nearly as fast. I am a heavy user btw...give it a shot and confirm what I say.
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I flashed bionix 1.8 two days ago, charged it up, wiped the battery stats, and let it dry clean.
The phone was in Auto mode for EDGE/WCDMA, reinstalled/downloaded my apps and some more, tested GPS on a few occasions, watched some HQ content on Youtube, and tested VideoPlayer, a few calls, some SMS and MMS, I listened to my music for the most part on it. 30+ hours later the phone finally drained.
With any stock FW's I could not get through more than 24 hours of a regular use with 2G mode only.
Currently I am at 79% at 11hr mark since unplugged.
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The JI6 Modem does drain your battery. No doubt about it. I've switched to JI2 and yes my GPS appeared to have suffered a bit and sometimes my Edge connection isn't as good as JI6, but way better battery life.
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True. You have to sacrifice something.
Hi,
I just flashed SuperClean 2.9.2 (non-voodoo) yesterday, and I love the speed, but it really drains the battery pretty fast. For example, with minimal usage it drains from 100 to 82 in less than two hours. That's a lot worse than the stock settings I had on there before. Since I'm new at this, is that normal? If I switch to a better kernel would that fix it? Any suggestions on what to do or tweak?
Thanks!
[Update] 3/30/11
So after a full day of observation, I've noticed that it seems to go from 100 to 80 fairly quickly (less than 2 hours), but then the rate slows down. It took 4 hours to go from 80 to 62. Then last night I left it on all night, starting at 78 and it is now at 48 (almost 12 hours). Obviously I wasn't using it much overnight, but I wasn't using it much when the initial drain from 100 to 80 happened. Might just be that the meter is not consistent? But at least I know that it's not draining faster than the old setup.
Still looking into the idea of an undervolted kernel. Any good suggestions?
Thanks!
An undervolted kernel might help but who knows... if I get over 5 hours I usually consider myself lucky.
i updated this morning, have an extended battery, and seem to notice massive drains, but i guess with power comes sacrifices
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An undervolted kernel might help but who knows... if I get over 5 hours I usually consider myself lucky.
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5 hours?! Dude, that totally sucks! Hmmmm, maybe it's time for a new battery?
Mine lasted about 6 and a half hrs then was at 8%
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5 hours?! Dude, that totally sucks! Hmmmm, maybe it's time for a new battery?
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It's brand new.
Dude this battery is acting like the Droid incredible batterry that's bad
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Not sure why this double posted. Must have been my frustration waiting 5 minutes just to edit an already posted post to correct the name of the app....
Each phone reacts differently to ROMs / Kernels when it comes to battery life. Same setup shows different battery life for different people.
First I would use the "Spare Parts" app and see if you can find any app taking up a lot of your battery life and remove it. (included in SC ROMs)
People also report different battery life with different Kernels. You can flash different Kernels that work with your ROM to see if you can get better battery life.
You also may need to remap your battery. There are posts on how to do so. Basically you charge to 100%, shut down and wait for it to show 100% with power off, then boot, go into Terminal gain SU and type bstats. Phone will reboot. This should be done anytime you flash a new Kernel and some do it with ROM flashes too.
Also don't run screen at 100% bright, use auto or something at or less than 30% unless you are in sunlight.
When not in use turn off WiFi and GPS as well.
All I can think of right now
acarter316 said:
i updated this morning, have an extended battery, and seem to notice massive drains, but i guess with power comes sacrifices
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I know some of the kernels are designed to recognize an aftermarket battery (see link below)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1012571
Each phone is different, but when you are getting 18+ hours with dj05 then you go to sc 2.9.2 and only get 5 hours after you follow the directions there is a problem
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Running not even 2 hrs yet and mines at 70% right now from a full charge, so I feel your guys(gals)' pain. I checked with Spare Parts and noticed that under "Network Usage" there is a "0" that seems to be using up a LOT of juice. Searching it up on google brought me to a possible issue with GSM/CDMA (Time w/o signal issue). I remember issues with this with the D1 and the Eris, usually you could fix it on those phones by turning on Airplane Mode for a little while, then turning it back off.
EC10 is based off a GSM SGS phone if I'm not mistaken, and because of that may make the phone try to find a GSM signal. My time without signal was around 45% this morning so I dug around threads with similar issues with other phones brought me to this Hero CDMA thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651848 .
Now we do have the same menu as shown here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sung_Galaxy_S_Series&oldid=13336#Secret_Codes
My thing is that I can't access it using SC 2.9.2. It doesn't automatically go to any of the menus. Anyone else have an issue getting into any of the secret menus?
It also looks like turning the airplane mode on and off seems to work for now.
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Running not even 2 hrs yet and mines at 70% right now from a full charge, so I feel your guys(gals)' pain. I checked with Spare Parts and noticed that under "Network Usage" there is a "0" that seems to be using up a LOT of juice. Searching it up on google brought me to a possible issue with GSM/CDMA (Time w/o signal issue). I remember issues with this with the D1 and the Eris, usually you could fix it on those phones by turning on Airplane Mode for a little while, then turning it back off.
EC10 is based off a GSM SGS phone if I'm not mistaken, and because of that may make the phone try to find a GSM signal. My time without signal was around 45% this morning so I dug around threads with similar issues with other phones brought me to this Hero CDMA thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651848 .
Now we do have the same menu as shown here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sung_Galaxy_S_Series&oldid=13336#Secret_Codes
My thing is that I can't access it using SC 2.9.2. It doesn't automatically go to any of the menus. Anyone else have an issue getting into any of the secret menus?
It also looks like turning the airplane mode on and off seems to work for now.
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so a solution for now would be a stock rom? Or an aosp?
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selvikin said:
Running not even 2 hrs yet and mines at 70% right now from a full charge, so I feel your guys(gals)' pain. I checked with Spare Parts and noticed that under "Network Usage" there is a "0" that seems to be using up a LOT of juice. Searching it up on google brought me to a possible issue with GSM/CDMA (Time w/o signal issue). I remember issues with this with the D1 and the Eris, usually you could fix it on those phones by turning on Airplane Mode for a little while, then turning it back off.
EC10 is based off a GSM SGS phone if I'm not mistaken, and because of that may make the phone try to find a GSM signal. My time without signal was around 45% this morning so I dug around threads with similar issues with other phones brought me to this Hero CDMA thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651848 .
Now we do have the same menu as shown here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sung_Galaxy_S_Series&oldid=13336#Secret_Codes
My thing is that I can't access it using SC 2.9.2. It doesn't automatically go to any of the menus. Anyone else have an issue getting into any of the secret menus?
It also looks like turning the airplane mode on and off seems to work for now.
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Read like 20 threads about the "0" and came to no conclusion haha. People just said it means root... and it could mean any app that requests Super User/Root permissions. Who knows though... I'm about to wipe date and reinstall afresh.
Hey guys,
How much battery life do you get on your X2?
I just installed CM7 and I'm down to 60% after 5 hours of LOW use :/. Could I need a new battery?
Are you doing anything with the settings of the CPU, such as setting minimum frequency, keeping both CPUs online at all time (this might be set via tweaking scripts)?
In fact, ARE you using any type of tweaking scripts (V6 Turbocharger, speedy, etc)?
I don't use any of them and my battery life is pretty good. I also have an extended battery as well, so that helps.
Let the ROM settle in. After two days you should get a better picture of what it's like. Don't forget to do a battery calibration. I haven't even done that yet and have been lucky enough to have great battery longevity. Can also look into managers like Juice Defender. There's also another app I have used in the past that can limit when an app can run. Like limit Facebook from always running in the background and syncing for data. Ithink it'd LGE or LBE security?
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Are you using the beta and not the alpha? The alpha has a problem with running the CPU at a high percentage when it shouldn't, which cause the battery to suck.
It is possible that you may need a new battery, but more likely is that the X2 simply has notoriously bad battery life. There are, however, things you can try to help. Go to your settings app, scroll down and click on "applications", and from there, open "running processes". Check out some of the processes. There may not be any, and if you see processes running for games or apps you haven't used in the last few minutes, it may mean that they are constantly running in the background. In that case, you may want to consider uninstalling. Try to use wifi over 3g wherever available. Screen brightness is a major battery killer, and as such, may want to keep it on the lowest setting; I've found it to be the most noticeable improvent in battery life. People are going to tell you to calibrate your battery, but I've done that many times on 2 X2s, never seen a difference. My friends and I agree its just a myth, but there's no reason not to try.
Honestly I don't know squat about batteries, but I remember hearing that the voltage of our batteries is 4.2 volts. If that's a measure of capacity like I think, you can try the app "battery left", which I believe has a voltage meter. If its less than that, maybe you should consider a replacement. Please don't take my word on this though, I can't confirm any of this to be true lol. Maybe someone else can offer their opinion on battery health.
This whole post probably seems like a big collection of thoughts. I'm tokin' right now, took me like 20 minutes to type this.
Hope I could help
To add to theredvendetta's comment, if you have your email set to check for messages, it can really have an effect on your battery. If you set it to never check, I'll bet you will see a difference.
iBolski said:
In fact, ARE you using any type of tweaking scripts (V6 Turbocharger, speedy, etc)?
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I have nothing of the sort extra installed (CM7 might of had this stuff, but I don't know).
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Are you using the beta and not the alpha? The alpha has a problem with running the CPU at a high percentage when it shouldn't, which cause the battery to suck.
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I am using the Beta.
@theredvendetta: I installed the Battery Left widget, and when I go into details it's saying some interesting things.
I'm at 50% battery right now. For one, its saying my battery is at 3787 mV. 3.8 volts I would say considerably lower then the 4.3 it should be. My battery is only ~6 months old, but, for 4 of those months it sat unused, uncharged, and in my hot/cold car. I've only run it down a bit and charged it up 4 or 5 times this week since then.
It is reporting "battery health" as good, but idk.
Under "Accuracy" it's saying the charge reading is "Inaccurate" and the bar is totally red, indicating that the estimation of charge is very inaccurate.
Where can I calibrate the battery? I'll look around under Settings for now. EDIT: It's likely I was only around 60% charged or so when I installed the rom.
And as for background tasks, aside from the default stuff and my few widgets (not a heavy user of those) there's just Facebook+Words with Friends, Songbird, GO Keyboard. Not too terrible, I think.
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I have nothing of the sort extra installed (CM7 might of had this stuff, but I don't know).
I am using the Beta.
@theredvendetta: I installed the Battery Left widget, and when I go into details it's saying some interesting things.
I'm at 50% battery right now. For one, its saying my battery is at 3787 mV. 3.8 volts I would say considerably lower then the 4.3 it should be. My battery is only ~6 months old, but, for 4 of those months it sat unused, uncharged, and in my hot/cold car. I've only run it down a bit and charged it up 4 or 5 times this week since then.
It is reporting "battery health" as good, but idk.
Under "Accuracy" it's saying the charge reading is "Inaccurate" and the bar is totally red, indicating that the estimation of charge is very inaccurate.
Where can I calibrate the battery? I'll look around under Settings for now.
And as for background tasks, aside from the default stuff and my few widgets (not a heavy user of those) there's just Facebook+Words with Friends, Songbird, GO Keyboard. Not too terrible, I think.
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I probably should have said this to begin with, but when I was talking about the voltage, I meant 4.2 was the charge when at full charge. I can see I worded my original statement poorly, apologies. Try charging up to full, and then check battery left.
When it says "innacurate", its reffering to the battery percentage reading its giving you. When you have cycled the battery once or twice, it will tell you it is "accurate", and the bar Williams turn green. You may notice parts of the bar turn green while first using the app; this means its picking up readings for the percentage of battery you're on at the time. I mean if you're on 50%, it will soon turn green halfway through the bar. After you have completely cycled the battery once or twice, it will stay green and accurate until you reset it or uninstall.
To calibrate the battery, you have to enter Android recovery. I can't remember 100%, but I believe that you hold the up volume button while booting up the phone. It may be down, you can try both. Hold it until you see text pop up that I think says "fastboot". When you see this, let go of the volume button, and now hit volume down until you see text that says "android recovery". If you accidently cycle past it, keep clicking volume down, as the list loops. When you stop on android recovery, press the up volume key. After a few seconds you will see a new screen with an exclamation mark. Press the up and down keys at the same time. A list of options will now appear. Don't use any of them unless you know what you are doing. There should be an option called advanced or something similar. Cycle to it by using the volume keys, and hit the power button to select it. There will be an option to calibrate you battery in there. Itbwill take a few seconds, and after that, return to the main menu and reboot the phone.
Good lord that took me ages to type. There's no hope with dope kids.
I feel like a broken record, but again, battery calibration does not do anything. If there's a chance the meter is off, just charge until your battery's voltage levels off and use the battery fully before charging again.
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I feel like a broken record, but again, battery calibration does not do anything. If there's a chance the meter is off, just charge until your battery's voltage levels off and use the battery fully before charging again.
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I agree with you. He asked and I answered. 'Sides, there's no harm in trying it, as there are no negative aspects to it.
Im running cm7 and the only mod im running is the 8 touch points. I do have my screen set to the most dim setting thoough. My phone gets unplugged at 5:30 in the morning though out the day I'll talk send some text might play a few games and usually be on the internet about a hour or so. When I get off at 7pm my battery is usually anywhere from 75% to 69%. A few times it has gone 18 hours and only been down to 52%. Give it some time, CM7 has by far the best battery life that Ive seen for this phone.
Yeah, after clearing the davlic cache and going through a few charge cycles, it seems to of improve greatly.
I'm running CM7 and my phone has been unplugged for 23.5 hours with medium usage including 72 minutes total voice call time and I'm currently sitting at 23%, hence my signature lol and this is a stock battery.
SBF'd from my tasty X2 MAXX
give it a few days but cycle it hard, like don't plug it in until you're below 5%. I have the BH6X (1850mAh vs. 1600mAh) so it's not much of a jump in capacity... your voltage should start out right around 4.2v and drop to about 3.5 when it's close to dead. My phone sucks at telling me how much battery is left, it always has, I typically run this thing dead every day, but some days I'll have upwards of 40% left (voltage is still above 3.8v)
I honestly don't even pay attention to the percentage 'cause I can watch an entire episode of beavis and butthead in HD with the brightness all the way up using software rendering (more power consumption) when I'm below 10% and it won't shut off on me.
it takes me almost a solid two days to kill my battery and I've been on CM7 Beta for a week as of yesterday. at first my battery life was absolute crap, but it has improved... every time you wipe the dalvik it'll take a solid 2-3 days to rebuild it. that uses much more power.
I am prepping for CM7 now. With my mostly stock X2 using Juice Defender I am getting about 1.5 days between charges. When I charge I am about 20% or less on the battery and this is with mostly lite usage. I expect once I make the switch it could take up to a week for everything to level out as it will have to synchronize many things because it will be like having a new phone. When my X2 was new it took about a week to settle in and stop the random crashes. That was also about the time the battery improved from about 1 day between charges. I will write back in a week or two once I have my phone switched and stable.
I used juice defender for awhile but I realized I was really only using it to control data. I just keep a data toggle in the notifications bar. It's really not that much of a hassle to switch it off and it reconnects fast enough. Saves quite a bit of battery power. When I was doing that with my extended battery on liberty I could get about three days.
I am actually impressed with my x2's batt life (although it is a brand new batter when I got the phone a few months ago). I used to have the HTC Desire, and it wasn't the greatest with battery life. My bone stock x2 didn't have the greatest batt life when I first got it, and still wasn't a whole lot better with cm7 installed. But now that I have installed miui on it, and screen brightness is about 70% constant, with wifi ALWAYS enabled. I am going on almost 24 hours now (maybe more??) and I am at 57% with little usage. I've used the phone maybe 2 times today for a total of about 10 minutes talk time, I have no 3g/data, other then wifi when I am at home, so I'm sure that has alot to do with it.
Another tip, that probably everyone already knows, and some people say it doesn't matter, but it seems to for me. ONLY charge your phone when it is less than 10% left, and then make sure it is charged for at least 6-8 hours before you unplug it. I know they say the newer batteries are not effected by this but my wife had the HTC Hero (worst android phone ever IMO), but she would charge it every chance she got, even if it was at 80%. Now, the phone is lucky to hold a charge for 5-6 hours with NO USAGE at all (except wifi always turned on). Granted the phone is older than dirt, and so is the battery, but still. My desire still holds a decent charge considering how old it is. I can get maybe 14-18 hours with no use on it (or very little use) with wifi always on (granted, the phone is bone dead after this time though).
I just altered the cm7 performance settings... back to normal. This combined with a custom juice defender ultimate profile has easily tripled my battery life..
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Stuckinabox said:
I feel like a broken record, but again, battery calibration does not do anything. If there's a chance the meter is off, just charge until your battery's voltage levels off and use the battery fully before charging again.
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Yeah I've seen nothing come from battery calibration. I have problems with my meter some days draining really quick and some days just normal. If it's bothering my I'll do a reset and that will usually sync it up. I'll try the charged voltage level off and empty thing and see if that helps.
Thanks.
I've tried a bunch of different combinations but I have gone back to GB every time. I don't even care about features anymore I just want to get the most out of my battery life. If you are getting great battery life will you post your kernel, firmware, and ROM please? Please post if you are on Ext Batt or not.
Thanks
I have an extended battery and I think my battery life is really good. Primarily, I turn off most automatic syncing and keep my screen turned down as low as possible at all times. I use a widget called Brightness Level and I keep it at 13% most of the time. I also keep GPS, Bluetooth, and WiFi off unless I specifically need them. Other than that, I'm not doing anything special. I'm on Clean ROM 4.5 Standard.
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I think the biggest culprit is the screen. I'll get varying battery life every day, anywhere from 2 to 12 hours on a standard battery, or 4 to 30 hours on extended.
The only common factor in each of these for me is screen-on time. I'll get 1.5-2 hours on standard or 3.5-4.5 on the extended battery before it dies.
However, as previously mentioned, turning off Bluetooth, wifi, GPS, mobile data, and sync will always help battery life. Too bad I rely heavily on some form of data, email, and Bluetooth headsets for my work.
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I've got a system...
I usually can get through the day with a regular battery; a few things to remember:
1) Mail/messaging/anything push
if you can deal with it, set peak hours from like 7am to 7pm and get stuff every two hours during peak and every four hours during off-peak. Push means your phone is actively waiting or doing something almost all the time. This one single thing will make the biggest difference, except for...
2) The Display
The biggest energy hog of all. Actually not much you can do here but set it to time out quickly (a minute or less) and set to either auto brightness or remember to turn it down indoors.
3) Audio
Running audio through the speakers also uses more battery. Try headphones.
Bluetooth audio is great but again bluetooth also uses more energy than headphones.
4) Networking startup services
Lots of games install startup services that run constantly in the background checking for data from the mothership and/or other players. Get rid of them or turn them off if you can. Some apps also do this, I dont have a list but a little Googling will enlighten you.
Any other tips? I'm always looking for other (reasonable) ways to save battery.
PS: as you probably know, the phone (and any smartphone) will charge about %500 faster if its completely turned off. Common sense, I know, but you'd be surprised...
this will keep you going all day:
http://www.amazon.com/Xantrex-XPowe...IC/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1337500958&sr=8-12
Seriously though, if you actually use your phone throughout the day, its probably better to just get the extended battery. Anytime you turn the screen on, it sucks battery.
You can try juice defender. I have it set to extreme and tell it which apps can turn on data with and without screen on, so 4g is only on when it needs to be.
I've heard ROM toolbox can keep apps from opening in the background but haven't paid for it yet. This would be good for games like draw something and WWF that seem to suck power constantly.
Thanks for the replies. I changed my power from performance to normal and that made a big difference because the phone won't sleep in performance mode. Just a note it will still sleep data even though my hotmail is on push. I am using the hotmail app not the htc mail app. I see people with 3+ hours of battery life in the battery thread and I don't see how they do it. I have the extended and I can make it through a day but I only use the screen for under an hour it seems. I'm not really seeing anything new in here I'm not doing but I do keep my screen auto a lot so I might jack that down. I keep every feature off when not in use.
I'm using stock rooted 3.14.605.5 with same firmware and over been getting better battery life since flashing.
I'm mad as hell about losing unlimited data!
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this will keep you going all day:
http://www.amazon.com/Xantrex-XPowe...IC/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1337500958&sr=8-12
Seriously though, if you actually use your phone throughout the day, its probably better to just get the extended battery. Anytime you turn the screen on, it sucks battery.
You can try juice defender. I have it set to extreme and tell it which apps can turn on data with and without screen on, so 4g is only on when it needs to be.
I've heard ROM toolbox can keep apps from opening in the background but haven't paid for it yet. This would be good for games like draw something and WWF that seem to suck power constantly.
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Man, That's some serious ****
I generally get great battery life-around 4 hours screen on, 4g, gps. However, a few days ago I noticed higher than normal temps, and poor battery life.
So what changed?
I traced it to the installation of one free app. Picsart-uninstalled and everything is peachy again.
This is my second rezound, the first one always ran hot and drained the battery.
If you're having problems with heat and drain, run a full ruu and see if it helps, if not you may have a bad device or possibly a bad sim. I don't think that the device is the problem in most situations. More likely a runaway app, bad radio/firmware/build combo, user error, or expectations too high.
My setup:
Latest ruu-cleanrom de 1.4-take it easy on the apps and widgets!
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This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
We're pretty close.
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This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
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Your issue may lay mostly in poor reception. I notice your signal strength thing is in yellow most of the time. Use WiFi if you can. I get pretty good battery life on
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Feb OTA firmware. Don't remember the numbers.
Dsb 1.1.3 undervolted by about 100mv via incredicontrol (UV depends on the device, each is diff) and under clocked to 1188mhz and with interactive governor.
I think my power setting is on Normal.
Also I have weather sync every 3 hrs. Facebook every 4 and leave my Gmail accounts on sync.
I get between 3.5 and 5 hours every day of screen on time through out the day if I'm using my phone a lot. This would also be coupled with usually around 30 minutes of phone calls too. But usually I only charge it every other day (when it gets to around 30%). I get more time out of it on WiFi (5+ hrs and less on 4G (3.5 to 4 hrs at most throughout the day). I also never run my phone down to less than 20% if I can help it. I'm on stock battery too
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This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
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That battery life isn't great if you're only using 9m of screen on time. 60% after 5 hours isn't unusual for me if I have medium usage of my phone. Like platinum mentioned, your signal is terrible. The Rezound (and most phones) tend to use a lot of battery if they're trying to constantly find a signal.
Right. Battery should only drop 1 to 2 percent per hour on good signal. Bad signal can kill it... If I was on 3G my phone would be around the mid 90s with the same usage.
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That battery life isn't great if you're only using 9m of screen on time. 60% after 5 hours isn't unusual for me if I have medium usage of my phone. Like platinum mentioned, your signal is terrible. The Rezound (and most phones) tend to use a lot of battery if they're trying to constantly find a signal.
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Does it matter if I turn off data or it will still drain looking for cell signal?
As long as you don't have partial wake issues, there are only two real concerns for battery.
It's not processor. Again, if the phone's not 'awake' while the screen is off, your phone's processor is not ramping up to full speed at all. While it's on and in your hand, 1.5ghz is a great speed for it to operate. Slower speeds than that significantly slow down how your phone operates, and you will have your screen on for seconds longer (Which uses WAY more battery than the higher clock speed).
In Facebook app, go to menu > settings > and change the refresh interval to NEVER!!!
As of Android 2.2, Facebook does push notifications. You don't need Facebook refreshing very 4 hours (OR EVER!). This wakes up your phone (ramps up processor speed, and so on), uses data (battery), and is unnecessary (since you get push notifications anyway). Turn that crap off. Same with Twitter. Turn it down to manual refreshing only (look in settings > accounts and sync as well as in the app). Same with Friendstream (which will automatically have its own refresh settings - fix them).
There are two things that use your battery.
1 - Screen. Turn your screen off when you're not using it. Stop turning your screen on every 12 minutes to 'see if you have any notifications'. Trust the green LED blinking light, or listen for your phone. You can stop checking it. You're using a TON of battery lighting up that 4.3" screen AND waking the phone back up (ramping up the processor, among other things, and it will stay awake for at least minutes, even after the screen goes back off).
2 - Data. Turn wifi off if you're not using it. Turn Mobile Network (GASP!) off when you're not using it. Pull down your notifications and hit Quick Settings, and turn Mobile Network off. Don't have that? Make the HTC Widget > settings > Mobile network. Turn it off when you're out with your friends after midnight. a) you're not going to post anything reasonable or coherent when you're out drinking anyway to Facebook, and b) call and text still works, so you can still mack on honeys all night (and text them drunkenly). You don't need your damn Gmail at 1am. I know you don't. Don't try to convince me otherwise.
If you keep your screen time to a minimum (and brightness down if you're not using auto brightness), and TURN OFF mobile network (internet) when not using it, your battery will last DAYS. Yes, the stock battery. Now, do you do 100+ texts per day? Sorry, your battery is going to die today. And tomorrow. Every day. The screen time murders the battery, and the Wake time that your phone will have as a result (like every time the phone lights up - for minutes at a time, it'll stay 'awake').
That's how you keep your battery going. On any android phone. Yes, an extended battery works great. I bought one (half price in a verizon store) AND got an EXTRA one for $4 (on amazon.com). Yes, it's for thunderbolt, but YES it's the same part number. It's running my phone right now. Keep it charged, and in your glove compartment. Your life will be better.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0055OTNK4/ref=pe_175190_21431760_C1_cs_sce_3p_dp_1
Go get it. Turn off your internet, and your screen. Trust your LED notification light. Stop using MMS Screen On. Your battery will last all day, every day. Unless you text a lot. Then, good luck.
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We're pretty close.
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Does it matter if I turn off data or it will still drain looking for cell signal?
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In short, yes.
If u turn off data it will help. But you will still have poor signal, so Idk how much it will help. apps and processes that use background data won't be using it, that alone will keep your phone from reconnecting so much, so it will help.
It takes your phone longer to connect on poor signals and your speeds are slower so it takes longer to do the same things. This also keeps your processor running faster for longer times.