New MR2 GB Radio - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys first time posting here, wanted to know if this one was safe? I know that the first gb radio was bricking, but is this new one safe?
I was really hoping to run bamf 2.0 safely.

I haven't bricked in the 52 minutes since flashing......
But I didn't brick during the two weeks I was running the other one either. It's sort of wait or flash at your own risk (which it always is really) at this point. I don't remember seeing a definitive diagnosis on why the other radio was causing bricks. There wouldn't be a way to verify if that problem is fixed if they didn't know what the problem was to begin with...

Yeah, I know there's always a risk.
But like you see the radios in the obligatory radio thread of the tbolt? All the froyo ones are safe I think I'll wait till the gb ones are like that.
So after all that chaos that happened a few days ago here it finally is. I would personally like to thank all of you guys that were sensitive to the situation and refrained from downloading, flashing, and or distributing this radio when it was stolen and pre-maturely leaked. Good things always come for those who wait.
Was chingy trying to say, that this was significantly safer?

I'm glad you asked that, Icey.. I was getting ready to start something with the same question.. I just rooted my bolt yesterday and I really don't wanna brick it on day 2! hehe
That being said, if this is a little safer, i'll try it!
If anybody is reading this who is smarter than me, AND THAT DOESN'T TAKE MUCH, can you give me any insight on what my procedure needs to be to get from my current Das BAMF 1.7 over to a gingerbread rom with the new radio??? Like I said, i just rooted yesterday and i'm a little more nervous, hesitant and unsure on this bolt than I was on my old Evo.. Especially since i'm brand spankin' new on ADB... Any insight from you geniuses would be GREATLY much appreciated!
Thanks in advance!

dont read into the brick issue to far or you will never get the phone running like a beast, the new radio,imo's 3.0 kernel and the bsmf with sense3.0 rocks this phone
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[Q] Are you a Crack Flasher?

Before I got my first Android I was a dedicated Iphone lover and I swore nothing would beat it until I got my hands on a Nexus 1 which was my first android and it just happened to be rooted and I had no clue what flashing was but when I figured it out ive been a crack flasher ever since.... So what's your story?
Upon a quick glance at the question and then the "high guy" avatar, I thought someone was asking for drugs.
I used to be until CM7 came out for the INC and then I stayed with that. With the TB I was switching between CM7 & BAMF, but i've stuck with BAMF for a couple weeks now.
I used to flash my old WinMo 6.5 Omnia, and when I came over to Droid, it made it that much easier to really go nuts, there was just SO much cool stuff to play with. I'm on a quest for the "perfect" rom. So far, plenty of close calls, but there's always that little something that I want, or that isn't quite right. I'd LOVE LOVE LOVE to teach myself to build ROMS so I don't have to hound these poor devs for mods all the time.
I guess I'm a flashing addict.
Lol, I flash a new ROM practically every day.
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Lol, I flash a new ROM practically every day.
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Ditto. I actually stuck with a single rom for about 2 months with my Droid X on Liberty 1.5 with the EpicBlue theme. That was a major record for me! I trend to install, on average, probably 5 roms/themes a week on my tbolt.
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i used to flash like twice a day on my OG till i discovered MIUI and then i started slowing down, now im much more moderate with flashing, back in the day though without nandroid, i wouldve been lost lol
The thunderbolt is my first android and I rooted and flashed it the day I got it. I flashed it with the perfect storm 1.4. I thought I was going to flash a bunch of other roms. But as it turns out, I haven't found anything in this rom that makes me want to figure out how to make a backup of my current setup. And if i don't have a way to get back to my current setup (all Apps and data), i dont really feel like flashing a different rom.
My gadget hacking days have an origin way before android phones. Started back when I was flashing custom firmwares on my PSP. The reason I got an android phone was for rooting and customization. None of my gadgets usually last more than a day or so before they're hacked some way or another
Definitely have enjoyed flashing on the Thunderbolt...although now pretty much the only time I flash is when Bamf gets updated...
I may or may not have a problem lol
First smartphone I ever had was an HTC Eris. I had never even heard of rooting till a few months after I had gotten it. I had just seen it mentioned somewhere on the internet, and I decided to research it (technology is a passion of mine). I was definitely a crack flasher with my Eris (mainly because tazz updated his ROM every day ) Then I had gotten a Droid 2. Not as bad of a crack flasher with that after liberty came out.
I just got my tbolt 2 weeks ago. I had it rooted within 4 hours of buying it. I am definitely not a crack flashed with it. I still can't decide if I want to keep it stock (or at least plain jane) or if I want a custom ROM. Right now, I'm using das BAMF 2.0 with adrynalynes 2.0 kernel, and it seems promising.
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had the OG droid and flashed tons on it.. now on the tbolt and seems to go between cm7 and bamf2.0.. mainly cuz of the recent bricking stuff..
gets bad i work at a verizon store and trying to get all my co workers to do it too..
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gets bad i work at a verizon store and trying to get all my co workers to do it too..
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"come'on all the cool people are doing it"
this is my first android phone, and im loving CM7, i can't get enough of the AOSP experience
kinda sickening most of my co workers are going iphone!!

[Q] Really worried about bricking phone

I rooted my phone about a week ago. Things are going smoothly but I keep reading all these horror stories about people bricking while running Gingerbread ROMs. Im running BAMF 3.0 RC3 with the MR2 radio. Do I really have anything to worry about? Im not one to experiment with different kernels, etc. I'm really starting to think I should un-root before something goes wrong. Any comments would be appreciated!
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I rooted my phone about a week ago. Things are going smoothly but I keep reading all these horror stories about people bricking while running Gingerbread ROMs. Im running BAMF 3.0 RC3 with the MR2 radio. Do I really have anything to worry about? Im not one to experiment with different kernels, etc. I'm really starting to think I should un-root before something goes wrong. Any comments would be appreciated!
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If it was meant to happen it will happen.
People who had never rooted their phones have had bricks too. But it's always a possibility when messing with things you are not supposed to. Plus what are you more likely to see the hundreds of people who's phones run flawlessly or the handful who have some flaw with theirs. I was worried too but I'm now starting to lead towards it not being a radio issue but just a hardware failure. Maybe for peace of mind though you should unroot or revert back to froyo till something guaranteed stable comes out.
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Are there any special ways to unroot since I have GB/MR2 radio? Will this work?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009423
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Are there any special ways to unroot since I have GB/MR2 radio? Will this work?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009423
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I'm not sure, but you could always flash back to Froyo and a Froyo based radio before you un-root
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Never mind I found what I was looking for. That tread says I can. Thanks! Just sucks cuz I love the way GB and Sense 3.0 look!
If you don't flash anything new, you should be fine where you are. You're probably more likely to brick trying to unroot than sticking with what you have now.
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Agreed - you're most likely to have problems when you're flashing a Rom/radio or rooting/unrooting. People haven't been having problems with the current GB radio from what I've heard
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Your phone wont just up and become a brick out of the blue one day. Bricking occurs while you are actually trying to flash a new rom or something like that. Since you successfully flashed yours, you should be good to go for life now. Problem for you is if you somehow break compatibility with future software because your phone is no longer stock, you may have to unflash/unroot which could then cause you problems.
The only reason for me to root is so I could have free WiFi hotspot, which is a convenience thing really. I dont mind wired tether at all. Well I realize I only need to tether like 3 times per year, when I'm on vacation or something. And even then most hotels offer free wifi anyway. So it was really serving zero purpose for me. PDAnet can fill in the holes and at least I have the peace of mind knowing my phone works the way it was meant to. Bloatware? Meh, I can ignore it. Thunderbolt seems to ship pretty clean.

Flash leaked 3.0 GB or wait till GB is officially released?

I have been thinking of switching to a BAMF 3.0 GB rom, however rumors say official GB will be out soon... What are you thoughts? Wait or switch now, I just don't have the time to change roms as frequent like some people do.
EDIT: THANKS GUYS FOR ALL YOUR INPUT IT WAS VERY HELPFUL, I AM GOING TO MAKE THE JUMP TO SENSE 3.0. I LOVE THE BAMF REMIX I HAVE NOW SO IM HOPING ILL LOVE THE 3.0 EVEN MORE. YOU KNOW THAT BAD NEWS TRAVELS FASTER THAN GOOD NEWS, SO IT WAS GOOD TO SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ENJOYING THE ROM INSTEAD OF READING POSTS WITH ISSUES.
BAMF is a good way to go. Pretty stable from when I used it. If you want to lose root, go for the OTA.
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BAMF is a good way to go. Pretty stable from when I used it. If you want to lose root, go for the OTA.
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Well i wouldn't go OTA, but when an offical GB is released you know developers will use that to build roms off of, instead off of a leaked version.
Go ahead & join the GB party! You will enjoy your phone so much more.
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Ya das barf is pretty solid. My phone looks exactly like my girlfriends sensation now. And at this rate gingerbreads not coming out till the fall
BAMF 3.0 RC4 is very stable, I have had no problems with it whatsoever. Even with it being built off an alpha build it is prob more stable than the official GB will be when it does come around. Also the OTA is not going to have sense 3.0 but 2.1. I highly recommend joining the BAMF club now.
Personally, I would go ahead and download and install bamf 3.0 for the simple fact that it has most of the aspects of gingerbread AND sense 3.0. Also, when gb is released, they will update the rom to incorporate anything that was missing.
Also look into synergy very good.
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I hesitated to flash anything beyond Froyo until BAMF 3.0 came out. After flashing the leaked GB radio and dealing random reboots I quickly un-rooted only to re-root a few days later. When 3.0 dropped I jumped onboard immediately and never looked back. RC4 is solid.
Bamfsense3.0 RC4 runs great on mine
bmx5656 said:
I have been thinking of switching to a BAMF 3.0 GB rom, however rumors say official GB will be out soon... What are you thoughts? Wait or switch now, I just don't have the time to change roms as frequent like some people do.
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take the plunge on BAMF 3.0. the official GB may be months away. once it does drop, the devs will rip through it and give us another sparkling example of what the phone can do.
I am running ginger theory 4.5.1 and really like it, been pretty stable for almost 2 weeks of use now.
I would wait if I was you,that way you could ask again. Sorry but you are asking oeople that took the leap,experimented with their phone so you dont have to take a chance,tisk tisk, just leave it rooted and let htc and vzw be your test bunnies.
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The leaked versions will always be better, believe me. And don't listen to the guys who have horror stories. Most likely, they did something wrong in the installation process. Or gave up with the smallest problem. Research is the key for android. Someone has probably had the problem before you.
Trial and error is what it is,do and learn,no one can tell you how it will run on you device or which rom,kernel,radio is best,just jump in and try it for yourself.
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Trial and error is what it is,do and learn,no one can tell you how it will run on you device or which rom,kernel,radio is best,just jump in and try it for yourself.
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If you don't take anything else from this thread, take this advice. It's spot on.
BAMF 3.0 RC4 FOR THE WIN. That's my opinion try a couple to see which ones you like that'll be the only way to find out
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vzw GB will never have 3.0. IMO, that's reason enough to take the jump. I've been on BAMF GB since the debut. Stuck with it through the whole "bricking scare". And to be honest, I had serious stability issues for the first few weeks. Random reboots, missed texts, etc. But now it's as stable as anything I've ran on this or my old droid
Verdict is, switch to bamf and follow the directions. You and your phone will be fine!
couple of questions:
What's the battery life like compared to stock?
Are there any rebooting issues?
Can you do wifi tethering?
Thanks!

CM7 or Miui for this noob...

So hey all, I am new here so bear with me. I have been on Android for about a year and am finally ready to root and run a rom. Started out with a Samsung Fascinate which got traded for a Droid X and that got replaced with a Droid X2. Having some small issues with the DX2, and since I need to factory reset I figured I would go ahead and try to root and run a rom...
So my question is being a complete noob would I be better with CM7 or Miui. Originally on the DX I looked into Miui and really liked how it looked and really wanted it and did a lot of research on it, but before I could try it I had to send back my DX and they replaced it with a brand new DX2 in the box. Then looking into it I noticed that Miui was not available for the DX2, so I just gave up and stayed put.
Recently reading thru the forums I see Miui is available now for the DX2, but I also was looking into CM7 which also looks really nice. I was wondering would either of them be easier for a noob? (i.e. install and post install customization) I have read up on both not having functional FM radio and HDMI, which are not big deals because I rarely use either... but are there any other big problems with either of these roms that would make a noobie like myself steer clear from them and is one of them faster than the other? I also looked into eclipse and not sure if that is something I should consider. Are there any major issues with eclipse and is it more stable than the other two? Honestly right now I am just trying to figure out where to start. I want to do something, but also want the easiest route so that I do not brick my phone as my wife would probably kill me, haha.
There is just so much info out there, I really don't know where to start. I know you guys probably get these questions all the time, but I could not find a specific thread that talked about just these two (or three) roms specifically for the DX2. I have been trying for the past month or two to research this stuff, and I have learned a lot, but I need a little help to push me in the right direction...
Oh, and if you couldn't guess I am on stock GB 2.3.4 unrooted...
kalojado said:
So hey all, I am new here so bear with me. I have been on Android for about a year and am finally ready to root and run a rom. Started out with a Samsung Fascinate which got traded for a Droid X and that got replaced with a Droid X2. Having some small issues with the DX2, and since I need to factory reset I figured I would go ahead and try to root and run a rom...
So my question is being a complete noob would I be better with CM7 or Miui. Originally on the DX I looked into Miui and really liked how it looked and really wanted it and did a lot of research on it, but before I could try it I had to send back my DX and they replaced it with a brand new DX2 in the box. Then looking into it I noticed that Miui was not available for the DX2, so I just gave up and stayed put.
Recently reading thru the forums I see Miui is available now for the DX2, but I also was looking into CM7 which also looks really nice. I was wondering would either of them be easier for a noob? (i.e. install and post install customization) I have read up on both not having functional FM radio and HDMI, which are not big deals because I rarely use either... but are there any other big problems with either of these roms that would make a noobie like myself steer clear from them and is one of them faster than the other? I also looked into eclipse and not sure if that is something I should consider. Are there any major issues with eclipse and is it more stable than the other two? Honestly right now I am just trying to figure out where to start. I want to do something, but also want the easiest route so that I do not brick my phone as my wife would probably kill me, haha.
There is just so much info out there, I really don't know where to start. I know you guys probably get these questions all the time, but I could not find a specific thread that talked about just these two (or three) roms specifically for the DX2. I have been trying for the past month or two to research this stuff, and I have learned a lot, but I need a little help to push me in the right direction...
Oh, and if you couldn't guess I am on stock GB 2.3.4 unrooted...
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Eclipse is the most stable. Cm7 and miui are both betas and not everything works.. Cm7 is good for speed, and miui for crazy customization options.
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Jubomime said:
Eclipse is the most stable. Cm7 and miui are both betas and not everything works.. Cm7 is good for speed, and miui for crazy customization options.
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Can I ask if you were just starting out and never messed with any roms before, which one would you choose out of the three?
kalojado said:
Can I ask if you were just starting out and never messed with any roms before, which one would you choose out of the three?
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Eclipse is likely the most stable, with CM7 following closely behind. MIUI is still in alpha. I haven't tried MIUI yet, but I've read people are having problems. For installing, they should all follow the same process.
Woops, accidentally clicked thank on your post. Oh well lol
kalojado said:
Can I ask if you were just starting out and never messed with any roms before, which one would you choose out of the three?
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Definitely recommend eclipse for starting out.
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Well Eclipse is currently based on Android 2.3.5, which means if you decided on that ROM, you would have to update to 2.3.5 then flash the ROM. Then if you ever wanted to switch to a different ROM, you would have to go through the process of SBF'ing back to Android 2.3.4 since all other ROMs are 2.3.4 based. However, Eclipse is the most stable as was mentioned already. Now between CM7 and MIUI, both are great ROMs. MIUI has some issues with audio and video in some scenarios but still works well. Flashing ROMs isnt that hard so if you have the time, try them all out. Just have all the files ready to restore your phone back to health in case something goes wrong.
One other thing to think about between Eclipse (which is stable and the upcoming 2.0.4 release is really stable and fast) and CM7/MIUI is HDMI.
Eclipse still can output HDMI since it still has some of the BLUR components in it.
CM7/MIUI are both compiled from AOSP components and have ALL of the BLUR components removed, hence no HDMI.
So, if you use HDMI and it's deal-breaker for you, then Eclipse is definitely the way you want to go. But, stability is also nice thing for Eclipse.
I see the stability of the ROMs as follows with the most stable listed first:
Eclipse 2.0.X
CM7 Beta
MIUI
CM9 (not released yet but it has Ice Cream Sandwich)
I was on Eclipse 2.0.3, then went to CM7 and stayed there for awhile. Then, I got onto the Eclipse beta team and started testing 2.0.4. The latest 2.0.4 is the most stable I've seen Eclipse, after a few minor issues, but that's why were were beta testing it. Definitely, I'm sticking with Eclipse.
One thing I've noticed, no matter how hard you try to leave Eclipse, I'm always noticing that people keep coming back to it. That alone should tell you how great a ROM it really is.
Thanks everyone. Seems like maybe I should try out Eclipse first, which is fine. I do want the most stable rom when it comes to my first time... then if I am feeling adventurous later I can try out the others. I will go do a search and hopefully can find a post that lets me know everything I need to do in one post. Thanks again for all the help, if anyone else wants to chime in, please do, I am open to any and all suggestions!
Go here:
http://www.eclipserom.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=46
Motcher has given a step-by-step explanation on how to get Eclipse 2.0.3 up and running. Once you have that, then when Eclipse 2.0.4 goes public, you'll already be set to flash it.
Eclipse 2.0.3 is here -> http://www.eclipserom.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=11
Both of these links go to the Eclipse forums where Nitro posts all his releases now.
kalojado said:
Can I ask if you were just starting out and never messed with any roms before, which one would you choose out of the three?
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kalojado said:
Thanks everyone. Seems like maybe I should try out Eclipse first, which is fine. I do want the most stable rom when it comes to my first time... then if I am feeling adventurous later I can try out the others. I will go do a search and hopefully can find a post that lets me know everything I need to do in one post. Thanks again for all the help, if anyone else wants to chime in, please do, I am open to any and all suggestions!
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Eclipse is a good choice for your first time. It'll be gentle I promise.
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Thanks everyone. Seems like maybe I should try out Eclipse first, which is fine. I do want the most stable rom when it comes to my first time... then if I am feeling adventurous later I can try out the others. I will go do a search and hopefully can find a post that lets me know everything I need to do in one post. Thanks again for all the help, if anyone else wants to chime in, please do, I am open to any and all suggestions!
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Lucky for you, motcher created this sticky in the Development forum here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1391824
[REF]How to go from any 2.3.4 stock/custom rom to any 2.3.5 (412) based custom rom
It has all the instructions you need in one place , it is all very easy also , don't be afraid of bricking your x2
We have this little thing called sbf, as long as you have a computer you will be able to bring you phone back from any "bricked" state if any problems happen.
just stay away from modifying any boot partitions or anything like that. Stick to basics like flashing roms and tweaks/mods/scripts that are found here in the x2 forum and you won't ever hard brick your x2 to the point of no return lol
if you are ever unsure about what exactly a mod/tweak/script/ROM/hack does to your phone then just ask before doing it, trust me tho, sbf is freaking great, so many times I've gotten "bricked" at the Motorola dual core splash screen and a quick sbf flash brings it right back...
And in case you didn't notice, I recommend eclipse enjoy, happy flashing, and welcome
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Thanks so much for the info! I was out searching and wanted to ask if there was a specific link I could get that I could trust, but I didn't want to bother you all as I am sure you get these same questions over and over again. So thank you so much for passing that along... such a huge help and I am gonna attempt it here in a few moments...
Yeah, I have read a lot about sbf'ing and some people still act like I should be worried about bricking my phone, but I have also read other places where people have stated they have yet to see a phone they couldn't get back. So I am gonna try this, and just follow it step by step so I don't screw anything up! Will let you all know how it goes. Again, I can't thank everyone enough for all the great info!!
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Thanks so much for the info! I was out searching and wanted to ask if there was a specific link I could get that I could trust, but I didn't want to bother you all as I am sure you get these same questions over and over again. So thank you so much for passing that along... such a huge help and I am gonna attempt it here in a few moments...
Yeah, I have read a lot about sbf'ing and some people still act like I should be worried about bricking my phone, but I have also read other places where people have stated they have yet to see a phone they couldn't get back. So I am gonna try this, and just follow it step by step so I don't screw anything up! Will let you all know how it goes. Again, I can't thank everyone enough for all the great info!!
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Yea
I haven't seen anyone truly hard brick an x2
just stay away.from the mounts& storage options in BSR , and I think the only things you should touch in the advanced menu in BSR is wipe dalvik cache and battery stats...don't mess with anything else and you will be just fine brotha
Also, if there is anything you are to "embarrassed" to ask on the forum, then just shoot someone a private message my pm inbox is always open
And yes, when rooted and you are doing hacks and tweaks and such, you always have the risk of something going wrong, but like I said, never seen a truly hard bricked x2 that couldn't be fixed via sbf, ...you really gotta kinda be TRYING to brick for that to happen lol
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I haven't seen anyone truly hard brick an x2
just stay away.from the mounts& storage options in BSR , and I think the only things you should touch in the advanced menu in BSR is wipe dalvik cache and battery stats...don't mess with anything else and you will be just fine brotha
Also, if there is anything you are to "embarrassed" to ask on the forum, then just shoot someone a private message my pm inbox is always open
And yes, when rooted and you are doing hacks and tweaks and such, you always have the risk of something going wrong, but like I said, never seen a truly hard bricked x2 that couldn't be fixed via sbf, ...you really gotta kinda be TRYING to brick for that to happen lol
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Okay one quick question. On the link you provided the very fist download, RSD lite is not available. When you go to download it you get "Such file does not exist or it has been removed for infringement of copyrights." I went into the eclipse forum and there is mention of it being updated, but that is all I can find. Do you know where else I could get this file?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22117008&postcount=135
Someone else asked same question other day
that link shows my response
Also,
U said you were on stock 2.3.4 right?
you won't need to sbf if you are, just install the 2.3.5 update zip
Then root with zergrush and good to go
Unless you are just getting everything set up for just in case you need to sbf...which is a great idea also
Good luck
ashclepdia said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22117008&postcount=135
Someone else asked same question other day
that link shows my response
Also,
U said you were on stock 2.3.4 right?
you won't need to sbf if you are, just install the 2.3.5 update zip
Then root with zergrush and good to go
Unless you are just getting everything set up for just in case you need to sbf...which is a great idea also
Good luck
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Yes, thats exactly what I was doing. I wanted to make sure I had everything just in case something went wrong. Just figured it would be good to have everything all set But thanks again... much appreciation!
Miui is my rom of choice when it's in full release candidate polish, and maybe eventually Ace's Miui4DX2 will get there. In the meantime, there's a battery-eating wakelock issue, app-by-app sound issues (sound sometimes just doesn't work), and some kind of rendering issue that slows Netflix/certain games/MX Video and various other media apps to a 1 frame per minute crawl. There's also an issue where wifi drops out periodically and doesn't reconnect unless you prompt it (or install a service like "Wi Fi Fixer" that toggles it for you).
So until Ace releases a better beta (which could be as soon as tomorrow, or as late as never), I'd count Miui out as a daily driver.
CM7 as a rom is great--not quite as pretty as Miui (and I find Miui eliminates a lot of the sloppiness in pre-ICS Android), but it is rock solid. DZK's build is an almost perfect CM7 build, except it has the same wifi connectivity issue as Ace's Miui. The advantages it offers more than compensate for the annoyance of having to run Wi-fi Fixer and every now and then waiting for wi-fi to reconnect.
I'm running CM7 on my DX2 and am quite happy with it. I'll give Miui another shot if there's another release (and I'm excited to see how DZK's CM9 runs), but CM7 is likely to be the best daily driver for the X2 for at least another month or two
Eclipse is Blur based (so it has the advantage of functional HDMI), but suffers from the slowdowns/choppiness/audio tearing when multitasking we all know Blur brings. Nitro did a good job of cutting Blur's visual crap out, and he built in a few useful scripts.
Eclipse is definitely better than stock, but if you're gonna go through the trouble of rooting and rom-ing, I'd go with CM7. There's also the issue jsgraphicart mentioned about 2.3.5 vs 2.3.4 requiring a couple extra SBFs if you ever want to switch to something else.
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Miui is my rom of choice when it's in full release candidate polish, and maybe eventually Ace's Miui4DX2 will get there. In the meantime, there's a battery-eating wakelock issue, app-by-app sound issues (sound sometimes just doesn't work), and some kind of rendering issue that slows Netflix/certain games/MX Video and various other media apps to a 1 frame per minute crawl. There's also an issue where wifi drops out periodically and doesn't reconnect unless you prompt it (or install a service like "Wi Fi Fixer" that toggles it for you).
So until Ace releases a better beta (which could be as soon as tomorrow, or as late as never), I'd count Miui out as a daily driver.
CM7 as a rom is great--not quite as pretty as Miui (and I find Miui eliminates a lot of the sloppiness in pre-ICS Android), but it is rock solid. DZK's build is an almost perfect CM7 build, except it has the same wifi connectivity issue as Ace's Miui. The advantages it offers more than compensate for the annoyance of having to run Wi-fi Fixer and every now and then waiting for wi-fi to reconnect.
I'm running CM7 on my DX2 and am quite happy with it. I'll give Miui another shot if there's another release (and I'm excited to see how DZK's CM9 runs), but CM7 is likely to be the best daily driver for the X2 for at least another month or two
Eclipse is Blur based (so it has the advantage of functional HDMI), but suffers from the slowdowns/choppiness/audio tearing when multitasking we all know Blur brings. Nitro did a good job of cutting Blur's visual crap out, and he built in a few useful scripts.
Eclipse is definitely better than stock, but if you're gonna go through the trouble of rooting and rom-ing, I'd go with CM7. There's also the issue jsgraphicart mentioned about 2.3.5 vs 2.3.4 requiring a couple extra SBFs if you ever want to switch to something else.
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Well hrmm, now you got me thinking about CM7 again, lol. I am in the process of downloading the Eclipse files and maybe I will look into CM7 some more before I proceed. Honestly, I am not at all concerned with the HDMI issue, as I rarely use it... but with that being said can you tell me any more issues with CM7 that would turn off a user from making it their daily rom? if no HDMI is the only issue, that is not a deal breaker for me...
kalojado said:
Well hrmm, now you got me thinking about CM7 again, lol. I am in the process of downloading the Eclipse files and maybe I will look into CM7 some more before I proceed. Honestly, I am not at all concerned with the HDMI issue, as I rarely use it... but with that being said can you tell me any more issues with CM7 that would turn off a user from making it their daily rom? if no HDMI is the only issue, that is not a deal breaker for me...
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I had issues with apps sometimes hanging and having to kill them. Also, Super User would sometimes forget an app already had the permissions to run as root. Sometimes, I'd have to go into the application manager and tell it to stop the application and try again and then it would get the SU permissions.
With Eclipse, I've have never had this problem. Again, it just shows how Eclipse is much more stable.
As it is, I don't know how much farther Dragonzkiller will stick with CM7 since he's working on CM9 right now. He's been so busy trying to get CM9 out that any more development/enhancing of CM7 and curing the SU and hanging process issues seems to have stopped at this point. But, not pointing the blame at DKZ as he's one busy dude with CM9.
However, Nitro is constantly busy working on Eclipse and not just for the X2. He also does it for the Bionic, RAZR, Galaxy Nexus, and Droid Charge. I don't know how he does it!
Great points. Thanks for the info. I tried to thank your post, but being new I did not know I was limited to 8 thanks per day, lol. But I wanted to let you know I appreciated the feedback!

[Q] [POLL] Have you upgraded to new firmware yet?

If "No", please let us know why you chose to hold off, and if/when you plan to upgrade to the leak/ and or OTA.
I will start.
I chose not to upgrade yet.
Mainly because, if anyone reading this was around during the Eris, 2.1 leaked fiasco, you will understand my new and improved policy of waiting at least 3 full days on anything leaked.
Anyway, I also am holding out because
1) Joelz (I hope) will be making a patch for us folk who are waiting.
2) I have been getting better batt life on GB
3) hasn't been 3 days yet.. but now that the firmware is out, I may be editing this post in a couple days.
Reminds me of the 3 day rule for not calling a chick after you get her number. HAH!
I went ahead and updated....we'll see how this goes.
I just upgraded to CleanROM 3.7, so I'm going to wait for the official release of ICS before I flash a next ROM.
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I voted No... ICS is not that big of a deal for me. My phone is #1 a business tool and having it work is more important that how it looks. That being said, I am quite content right now with GB, how the device looks and works. Battery life is acceptable and I can use all of the tools I need to use. It is one very AWESOME phone as it is right now.
This might change if I see a lot of users using it without a lot of issues, but I might just wait until the Official OTA arrives.
There are more things to life than ICS....
Never ending... after the masses gets ICS they will want JB and then they will demand KLP.... it never ends.
I did almost bricked in the process as well
But all in all I say its worth it. We atleast have a method to downgrade the hboot if needed
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I am holding off until I see there are no issues AND there is a way to get back to stock GB via Ruu in the crazy case I need to return to Verizon.
They may not check much but I'd rather be safe since 4.0 is noticeably different.
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ericsignals said:
I am holding off until I see there are no issues AND there is a way to get back to stock GB via Ruu in the crazy case I need to return to Verizon.
They may not check much but I'd rather be safe since 4.0 is noticeably different.
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You can ruu back with the mainver fix
Unless you haven't unlocked it yet
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Nope still on GB. when the ota comes and custom kernels for ICS ill take the plunge. Still hoping for cm9 as well.
I have upgraded but I'm having trouble with the service.
Phone keeps telling me to insert a sim card when I already have one...
Just saw in Scotts ics thread you can't go back to Gingerbread after Ics ruu (he even updated his op).....so I will be holding off....at least until gets proven otherwise
Edit: now Scott is saying you can go back but there's a sd issue...however he said there is a fix....
so looks like I will keep on waiting for everyone else to be the guinea pigs lol
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I didn't vote because there's no option for "I'm on the second ICS leak and waiting for more ROMs to be based off of the third leak".
I just hope there will be a Rom that doesn't require the ics ruu as a prerequisite.
I am sure those of us with our tin foil hats would really appreciate it.
Also I can only imagine the forums whenever the official release comes and by chance it doesn't play nice with the leak.
Looks like gb for me, unless there's a Rom that doesn't require this leak. Guess time will tell...hopefully everything works out for everyone but I will just err on the cautious side.
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I voted "no", though it is tempting, but its still early development.
brando56894 said:
I didn't vote because there's no option for "I'm on the second ICS leak and waiting for more ROMs to be based off of the third leak".
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lol i was just messin around on the polls. please vote
andybones said:
I will start.
I chose not to upgrade yet.
Mainly because, if anyone reading this was around during the Eris, 2.1 leaked fiasco, you will understand my new and improved policy of waiting at least 3 full days on anything leaked.
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That was the worst.. What was it? something like a few days after the 2.1 leak had been out, root was attained (but only if you hadn't installed the leaked firmware)?
Anyways, I installed the newer firmware despite all this. I have confidence the Dev section here will carry us through any issues that arise
I did last night. Scary but easy. Clean Rom 4.0 seems absolutely flawless this far. Battery is great. Stopped using extended battery its so good lol.
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new firmware
I got the AndroidPolice all-stock zip of the new VZN ICS. Experimented all day with it including the TAMPERERED warning, and other stuff. Found out that when 100% bone stock, the new ICS will allow you to freeze/eliminate all the things I don't use, like VZN Navigator, Twitter, Trneds, NFLMobile, Lets Golf,Hot Pursuit, Freindstream, etc. So, I am ReLocked, and stock and happy because a bunch of bloaty things don't start and can't be seen in the app drawer. Bottom Line: the new ICS is gonna be so great, some folks won't have to unlock to get exactly what they want. Warning: if you check it out, getting back to GB isn't impossible, but it's a hassle.
fo0you said:
That was the worst.. What was it? something like a few days after the 2.1 leak had been out, root was attained (but only if you hadn't installed the leaked firmware)?
Anyways, I installed the newer firmware despite all this. I have confidence the Dev section here will carry us through any issues that arise
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Yessir, no root was for me. lol, after about a week, I ended up calling CS and getting a refurb, they said nothing about the phone being on a leak lol.
i would rather wait a get the official OTA firmware. rather than some leaked ****.

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