I was very disappointed with my htc evo 4g. This issue was never fixed even if thought it was. after the (suppostly fix) Most kernel and htc firmware upgrade were able to reach around 50-53fps but never did it reached 60fps like my nexus. With a few tweaks It was able to reach closer to 60fps but you would get screen tearing. so please can anyone confirm this. i don't want to run games or sense cap at 30fps again.
eduardmc said:
I was very disappointed with my htc evo 4g. This issue was never fixed even if thought it was. after the (suppostly fix) Most kernel and htc firmware upgrade were able to reach around 50-53fps but never did it reached 60fps like my nexus. With a few tweaks It was able to reach closer to 60fps but you would get screen tearing. so please can anyone confirm this. i don't want to run games or sense cap at 30fps again.
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There will obviously be no 30fps cap on the EVO 3d.
While I agree with you, it isn't so obvious....i felt it should have been obvious that the 4g wouldnt have had the cap, the nexus didn't...hell, my ****ty samsung moment didn't...
That said, I would be thoroughly shocked and horrified if it does have an fps cap...at which point I will return it, wait for the sgs2 and boycott htc for good...
...fool me once, etc etc etc
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As much as HTC bends over for the community I doubt this will be an issue. This is HTC not Motorola.
Has to b able to push atleast 60 to even attempt 3d right? Maybe different tech
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ktrotter11 said:
Has to b able to push atleast 60 to even attempt 3d right? Maybe different tech
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Different tech, youtube parallax barrier to see how it works, im too high to explain right now, I'd end up writing a novel lol.
ktrotter11 said:
Has to b able to push atleast 60 to even attempt 3d right? Maybe different tech
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We were discussing doing 3d in portrait, but the problem lies in how it works.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14558982&postcount=134
Judging by this, I would say there's no 30 fps cap.
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Judging by this, I would say there's no 30 fps cap.
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Yeah from all the recent benchmarks of the sensation it looks like it might be 60...like even the anandtech ones...in quadrant they max out at 61 and it seems like it was clearly trying to do more but was limited
Sounds like a vsynch issue...
Also what's the point of rendering more frames then the refresh rate of the S-LCD anyway?
Except to generate heat, reduced battery life, increased tearing, and bragging rights for days...
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Just to clarify, the human eye cannot register more than 30-35 fps. Going higher is just an ego boost.
With that said, I'm guilty of going for max fps also.
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Just to clarify, the human eye cannot register more than 30-35 fps. Going higher is just an ego boost.
With that said, I'm guilty of going for max fps also.
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Don't know about you, but I can easily tell the difference between 30 and 60fps here.
Maybe if you showed them one at a time, it would be harder, but when they are (side by side) or one on top of the other in this case, the difference is easily apparent.
http://www.boallen.com/fps-compare.html
Night·Fire said:
Just to clarify, the human eye cannot register more than 30-35 fps. Going higher is just an ego boost.
With that said, I'm guilty of going for max fps also.
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That's been proven wrong quite a while ago. But then again the no HTC phone since the EVO has been capped at 30 fps including the Evo shift so why would anyone even assume the EVO 3d would have this problem?
StellarWiid said:
Different tech, youtube parallax barrier to see how it works, im too high to explain right now, I'd end up writing a novel lol.
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Puff Puff Pass, ***** LOL
Night·Fire said:
Just to clarify, the human eye cannot register more than 30-35 fps. Going higher is just an ego boost.
With that said, I'm guilty of going for max fps also.
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Just to clarify, you have no idea what you're talking about. Google it.
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ATRIX users, check this camera app out. It has 1080p working. I will post more results when I do more testing of the app for smoothness and ability to work well. There is a paid version and a free version. My phone is stock gingerbread and it works.
Observations:
Colors are richer
Recording choppy, but playback not as much
Will do more observations.
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yup its been noted to work with 2.2 as well. choppy though.
y2whisper said:
yup its been noted to work with 2.2 as well. choppy though.
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Mostly during the recording of it. The playback is smoother than recording.
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Same 10 sec static image with no audio. You will see the file sizes for D3 and lg are very close. The lgcamera app timer is running too fast, hence it showing only an actual 9-1/2 secs in GSpot, when I was closer to 10-1/2 seconds using the apps timer. Playback of both videos on a 24" 1080p monitor was crap for both samples, so I am not convinced anyone has yet given us true hardware/firmware supported 1080p on the Atrix. My position is that it will take a dev to do some serious work, or Moto to release an update which gives true support. If 1080p were this easy to get on the Atrix, Moto would have done it at release.
<edit> Notice the D3 is running at 31fps. I haven't verified if this is consistent across multiple samples.
<edit 2> After reading the OP again, I would say I noticed no difference in colour, clarity, etc., between either video samples.
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I have no video lag or delay. But will put up on plasma flatscreen to check. I have sound
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The reason I don't use sound to test is because sound is unpredictable, and can make a big difference to file size. Similarily I take video with a static image so that I have the best chance of reproducing the same results multiple times. If you video moving objects and/or pan and scan, your bit rate changes a lot, and again you will never achieve like results. I do pan and scan to test for jitter, etc., but not to pull data from for comparisons.
On another note, how does the audio sound through an external source?
I have not checked this with the camcorder at all yet.
I am interested to see how it performs at concerts. I have seen a couple of videos of concert footage, and the audio doesn't seem too bad.
it work in my 2.3.4 with custom rom too
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I would normally agree with you here, but with the leaked LTE Atrix 2, I have a feeling they're not going to include it just because that will give you another reason to go to the Atrix 2. It's very possible with our hardware, and software shouldn't matter too much (hell, if LG can do it, anyone can). I honestly think we've been shafted. With that said, my D3 Camera with build prop edits does make files that are much larger than the 720p counterparts. I don't have a 1080p display to test it on, but when I stop stills they do look more crisp (which is really the only reason to use 1080p for me [that said, maybe it's just the placebo effect]).
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I would normally agree with you here, but with the leaked LTE Atrix 2, I have a feeling they're not going to include it just because that will give you another reason to go to the Atrix 2.
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I would tend to agree with you here, if the leaked MB865 is indeed the Atrix 2. If it does happen to be so, Motorola will never see another red cent from me after this. I like the Atrix, but if they are about to release a 2nd derivative of this phone so soon, then this proves they knew all along while they were developing it that we would not get all that was promised on the MB860.
Tried it on my HDTV
I tried it on my Samsung HDTV and the monitor indicated the video was 1080x1920. Picture looked good to me.
Note: I did have to go into settings on entertainment center and check that I wanted 1080 playback if file was recorded higher than 720.
i just want to get an idea of what others think of that display resolution. I am used to iphones retina display so to me it looks aot worse... writing isnt clear..just looks yucky.. but what do others think?
480x800 is a resolution not pixels. Anyway, to me it doesn't matter at all due to the ppi increase and the larger screen size.
ppi is still like 100 less then iphones... the larger screen size means jack if resolution is crap..true?
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ppi is still like 100 less then iphones... the larger screen size means jack if resolution is crap..true?
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It's all we have for now. The truth is that the graphics are fuzzier then on iPhone 4, but nothing you can do about it.
which is why i think iphones still win
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which is why i think iphones still win
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That's your opinion on the matter, just go with whatever floats your boat. I can never live with an iphone cause they just suck for pure media capabilities.
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which is why i think iphones still win
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It depends on what you want from your phone. I actually like the AMOLED display and larger screen, and don't care for resolution as much. Every product has it's audience.
Disfected said:
That's your opinion on the matter, just go with whatever floats your boat. I can never live with an iphone cause they just suck for pure media capabilities.
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+1. The iPhone's screen is a bit sharper when viewing text, but the colors that the GSII produce are unlike any other non-Samsung device. Super vibrant, perfect screen size (for me), and battery-saving.
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what do u mean by media capabilities?
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what do u mean by media capabilities?
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Certain flash access to sites, no conversion for media content, plays all .mkv format with subtitle support on the fly. Stuff like that isn't really capable on an iphone because it lacks support or just requires more time input to make it work, by tedious conversions.
what about graphics chip? is it much worse noticable compared 2 the iphone 4s..in ur opinion??
No idea since I never use my phone as a gaming device because I carry a 3DS with me.
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erm....win what?
seems like this guy is just trying to stir up ****.....who goes into a forum for a particular product and asks the users if their product is crappier than another product
im not trying 2 stir nothing up... i just think iphones win in overall performance and simplicity
The iphone wins in regards to sharpness and gaming performance. But here's the thing. Give it 1-2 yrs before that gpu is finally put to use (by the time 2 yrs cone you'll be on your next phone, so whooptydoo) . So in other words, whatever game or not comes out right now for the iphone, the sgs 2 can more than handle them. The sgs 2 of course wins in customizability, no contest is that.
$1 gets you a reply
you started 3 posts about the same thing, obviously you're trying to stir ****. who cares if u think the iphone wins blah blah
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seems like this guy is just trying to stir up ****.....who goes into a forum for a particular product and asks the users if their product is crappier than another product
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That's exactly what I'm feeling/thinking too.
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Obviously we are all Android lovers right?
But as I was skimming around one of the general Android forums, I came upon a thread that was talking about something called "Bootdroid." Assuming that this is not fake, Bootdroid allows you to dual boot Android and iOS 5.
I'm going to be honest, being able to boot into iOS 5 on an Android device seems pretty interesting to me. Booting into (a jailbroken) iOS also means being able to use iOS apps that aren't found in the Play Store. Also, buying those expensive iOS devices won't be a problem because you would now be able to take a cheaper Android device, such as the O1, and boot iOS on it.
Probably the only reason why I would choose iOS over Android (other than the apps) is because of how Android lags due to how it renders the UI:
https://plus.google.com/100838276097451809262/posts/VDkV9XaJRGS
I would guess that our phone's hardware can probably run iOS smoothly given the specs of an iPhone. While the iPhone has a stronger CPU (1GHz Cortex-A9 compared to our 600Mhz ARM11) and a stronger GPU, both the iPhone and the O1 have 512 MB RAM. Also, on the project page, it says that iOS works well on the Motorola Droid, which has a 600Mhz CPU and 256MB RAM.
What's cool about this Bootdroid is that according to the blogspot below:
Android devices that have screen resolutions that are lower than 960x640, or if you can divide the resolution 960x640 by an integer to equal your current devices resolution, then it will likely be more compatible with the iOS 5 firmware and the pixels will be less diluted.
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Of course, if Bootdroid is fake, this would all just be wishful thinking. But it seems pretty legit to me:
http://code.google.com/p/bootdroid/
https://github.com/Peter42/BootDroid
http://bootdroid.blogspot.com/
What are your thoughts?
Interesting, this would actually benefit us because of the many things in iOS, but then again, Android is awesome. I hope this isn't a fake like the other ones i've seen because it would be pretty sweet to have Android and iOS dual-boot
Looks really cool.... but our O1 resolution is not in proportion to 960x640
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Looks really cool.... but our O1 resolution is not in proportion to 960x640
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Actually it is
Isn't our phone 480x320? We can divide 960x640 by 2 to get the resolution of the O1.
This is one of those few times where having a smaller resolution comes in handy. Good luck to those who have 480x800
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Actually it is
Isn't our phone 480x320? We can divide 960x640 by 2 to get the resolution of the O1.
This is one of those few times where having a smaller resolution comes in handy. Good luck to those who have 480x800
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oh OK...I thought the other way...I thought that the proportion between length and width should be the same... like 480 is 1.33 times of 320 but the same is not the case with 960x640..
and what about phones with hd display...
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and what about phones with hd display...
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Well luckily for us, our phone's resolution is proportional to that of the iPhone. For higher-end phones with a greater resolution (such as 480x800), it's going to be hard to resize everything
Gotta be nice
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I thought the project was at a standstill, but it looks like there is some activity going on. If you check out the blogspot, every previous post seems to be deleted. The only post shows a smiley face with the title "Copyright Infringement: Part II" and the words "The Battle has begun. We'll be back soon." I don't know if this is a good thing or a bad thing, but at least something is happening
ios on Android phone sounds good..
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sweetnsour said:
Actually it is
Isn't our phone 480x320? We can divide 960x640 by 2 to get the resolution of the O1.
This is one of those few times where having a smaller resolution comes in handy. Good luck to those who have 480x800
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I actually lolled at that one
However, iPhone 2G and 3G have HVGA display so iOS running on the O1 doesn't seem impossible. Just hope that they based it on iOS 2/3/4 and not 5.
But the HVGA variants (screens have 480×320 pixels (3:2 aspect ratio), 480×360 pixels (4:3 aspect ratio), 480×272 (~16:9 aspect ratio) or 640×240 pixels (8:3 aspect ratio)) doesn't include 640x960.
But I'd love to get iOS on my phone especially because of uber smooth scrolling.
Now it says that he's meeting with his lawyer and the website should be running normally in the next few days
Guys you have been talking about resolutions and things. But i think it should be least of our worries . being the Orwellian philosophy that apple follows, will it be possible to hack and slash it up to our needs. of course its our wet dream but the hardware support, kernels all these things- it Wiil definitely be some time before the greatest devs figure it all out.
I'm sincerely not saying this in derogatory sense, just giving you guys some perspectives.
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Android is laggy because it had no UI hw acceleration on GB... now ICS is soooo smooth
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HTC’s upcoming 5-inch, 1080p superphone reaffirmed ahead of fall release
BGR exclusively reported this past April that HTC (2498) will be the star of Verizon Wireless’s (VZ) fall lineup thanks to a new 5-inch superphone with a 1080p high-definition display, Scribe stylus support and a quad-core Krait CPU paired with an Adreno 320 graphics processor. Now, citing unnamed industry sources, Digitimes on Monday reported that HTC plans to launch a smartphone with a “5-inch display featuring a resolution of 1794 by 1080 pixels” some time in either September or October. The massive HD handset could be just what HTC needs to finish the year strong after a rough second quarter and continued struggles in the third quarter, but it’ll certainly have some stiff competition from the Galaxy S III, the upcoming Galaxy Note II and Apple’s (AAPL) next-generation iPhone, which will be announced on September 12th.
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Saw that and it looks killer, but I gotta say, after playing with the streak a while ago, I don't think I could go any bigger than the screen size of the lte. Of course I said the same thing when I got my og...
Makes sense. Samsung is going to announce a new Galaxy Note, so HTC will try to compete with them in the phone/tablet hybrid market.
Sounds great.
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Pretty cool. Except that I could never use Verizon. Slow data as it may be, at least its not capped or throttled on sprint. Plus my house has been lit up with LTE for the past week now and I pull a solid 10mbps down, and 5-10 up everytime I test it. (hit as high as 14 down)
And we all knew the quad-core kraits were coming later this year. That screen is going to look awesome as well.
As the new iPhone release is coming up, I think our current phones will give it every bit of a run for it's money, and this just emphasizes the android hardware dominance over it even more so.
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Pretty cool. Except that I could never use Verizon. Slow data as it may be, at least its not capped or throttled on sprint. Plus my house has been lit up with LTE for the past week now and I pull a solid 10mbps down, and 5-10 up everytime I test it. (hit as high as 14 down)
And we all knew the quad-core kraits were coming later this year. That screen is going to look awesome as well.
As the new iPhone release is coming up, I think our current phones will give it every bit of a run for it's money, and this just emphasizes the android hardware dominance over it even more so.
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That screen will be delicious. 1080p is twice the number of pixels as 720p. On a 5" screen, 1794x1080 would be a PPI of 418.8. Compare that to this phone's PPI: 312.47.
To bad most things don't take advantage of the high res netflix still doesn't do hd on most phones and I don't think hulu does either and a few media players iv tried don't work right and crash often or freeze
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As soon as you walk out of the store, something even more advanced drops. Sigh!
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As soon as you walk out of the store, something even more advanced drops. Sigh!
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That's technology for you. My computer cost about $1000 to build two years ago, and now I could build the same rig for about $300 less.
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That's technology for you. My computer cost about $1000 to build two years ago, and now I could build the same rig for about $300 less.
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That's sweet I'm due for an upgrade on my Verizon account anyway hell yeah!
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Is anyone else underwhelmed with the "3D" in our phones? I think I may have taken one 3d pic of my GF the day I got the phone. Nothing since....
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Is anyone else underwhelmed with the "3D" in our phones? I think I may have taken one 3d pic of my GF the day I got the phone. Nothing since....
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I played with it a bit but other than that I really couldn't care less about it. I like to think of the Evo 3D as a nice phone that just has 3D as a gimmick.
more than a thousand 3 d pics in less than a year...
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Yeah, I probably used the 3D features for a month or two, but haven't used them much at all since the phone came out. But I am still very happy with the phone overall, still a beast in today's smartphone market.
I also didn't use the 3D too much like only 12 shots or so but i like to show this 3D gimmick to people their faces are priceless when i show them that my phone has 2 cameras hahaha and then i show them few best pictures and i can just see their eyes shining because of such awesomeness hahaha.
Just used it to make a special video once and that was it.
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DarkRazorZ said:
I played with it a bit but other than that I really couldn't care less about it. I like to think of the Evo 3D as a nice phone that just has 3D as a gimmick.
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It's funny, a buddy and I were discussing this just last week and came to the same conclusion. I hardly use it, it is cool and such, I just think there needs to be more devices with 3D before it really becomes worth while.
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Well par for course, Apple hype the personification of the device by giving it a name like "Deanna" or iD, then pretend they created it. Then sue HTC and LG.
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I have used the 3D quite a bit actually. I would say that a third of the pictures I take are in 3D. The problem I have with the camera isn't the 3D but rather the quality of the pictures. Not even a year later the One S can take much better pictures even in the dark.
Speaking of 3D, and has anyone noticed the 3D Lyrics in Shazam?
I sometimes regret having bought it..
I dont use thisn function and i bought it because of it..
sometimes i wish i had bought Galaxy S2
I default to pictures and video in 3D.
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I use 3D all the time. I play the games in 3D - I watch movies in 3D, convert most of them myself. I use the 3D camera.
I Love the 3D features.
If not for the 3D, I would have moved onto a new phone by now. Its the only reason I bought this phone. I may even buy a spare one if the price gets much cheaper.
We need more 3D content.
I wonder about all the people that "moved on" from these forums while we were still on GingerBread roms.
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+1
nothing like taking a cool picture in 3d and can't upload it for all your friends to see because they all have iphones or samsung pieces of dog excrement
look i want to share why i bought this phone
1. the specs / price ratio
2. not about the 3d all because the specs / prices ratio i buyed it unlocked HTC EVO 3D GSM for 300 euros if i would buy a sgs 2 for that price i have to wait like 3 years to get it for that price so thats my opinion
I love using the 3d but just hate sense so I'm 3dless until they can find a fix for aokp.
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Yeah, I agree with most of the rest. I used 3d initially, but it is useless if I can't share photos or videos with anyone else. Cool? Yes. Useful? No.
When I bought the 3d, it was for the hardware specs, but not 3d capability.
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Well par for course, Apple hype the personification of the device by giving it a name like "Deanna" or iD, then pretend they created it. Then sue HTC and LG.
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Here's a picture of what it would look like
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For every 3d pic I take, I do 100 in 2d.
The EVO 3d can take very nice pictures IF you get away from the "auto" settings. There has been several tutorials linked on XDA how to improve them.
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