Hi everyone,
I know it's a common question but I can't seem to find a straight answer anywhere, so here it goes >.<
I'm thinking of buying the SGS2. The hardware is really marvellous, unfortunately when I used one before, I thought the software bundled goes a long way to spoiling it.
Now I understand the only way to get rid of the bundled apps is to root, but rooting also voids the warranty, and runs up a counter, which can be reset but that reset runs up another hidden counter
Having dealt with Samsung before, their quality control seems to be lacking at best, so I would really want to keep the warranty intact as best as I can.
My question is this, does rooting just to remove apps completely void the warranty? Are there any reports of Samsung doing repairs on rooted devices?
And if not, if there any other way of at least masking or hiding the bloatware without voiding the warranty?
I'm going to be stuck with this device for 2 years if I get it, I dont want to lose the warranty just to get rid of some unnecesarry crap apps.
Thanks all, sorry for the newby thread, but I wanted a straight answer, and might be nice for other newbies coming over
jtc42 said:
Hi everyone,
Now I understand the only way to get rid of the bundled apps is to root, but rooting also voids the warranty, and runs up a counter, which can be reset
but that reset runs up another hidden counter WE are not 100% sure on that .
My question is this, does rooting just to remove apps completely void the warranty? Are there any reports of Samsung doing repairs on rooted devices?
samfirmware.com has the letter from Samsung rooted phones void warranty .
Suggestion is to have a copy of original firmware see dev section
Flash that back. to wipe root and return to out of the box state then remove apps that require root + recovery jig to reset counter .
jje
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Do i lose my guarantee if i install custom ROM or downgrade? Cus i have 2 years guarantee
I don't know the answer of your question
But I think the answer is no
Of course you will. But only if they find out, there are reports that some people could use guarantee even if they have rooted phone and custom rom. But, manual says that you will lose it.
I was slightly confused by your question... then it struck me that you meant warranty XD
Tasssadar is right, it's only when they find out that you will lose it. There are many methods to revert it back to stock, so there isn't much risk in performing custom recovery.
Hello,
I restore my original rom and I have only to remove the custom recovery menu to return my phone in original state. I want to return in original state because I need of waranty service. So can someone help to remove custom recovery menu? I think that my USB port on phone is brick and I have problem with display.
I have some questions about my Galaxy S II I bought a few weeks back, regarding returning the device to a pre-modified state?
After a few hours of browsing, (and, unfortunately, not being able to answer this question on my own), I've found that, should I root my device (and then do anything after, like installing a custom ROM), that my warranty is voided, and this being a $900 phone, that's something that troubles me (especially when I'm also paying another $15p/month to my carrier for additional cover ).
So, my main question is, is there a way that I can restore my phone to it's current state (carrier-installed apps, stock Samsung apps, no modifications whatsoever), so that it would be able to be returned under warranty (assuming that I go ahead and root it)? I've read that there is a counter for every ROM that is flashed (or modification made?), so I'd need to be able to return that back to it's original state as well, I assume.
I live in Australia, and my carrier is Optus.
The only thread that I've found that is of any use to me really, is this one:
[HOWTO] reset custom binary counter in download mode
Though I am slightly confused by the process
I've seen so many amazing mods, like the camera mod from here: [MOD] Hacked Camera.APK for better audio quality, usage with any battery life & MORE!
The audio mod: [GUIDE]DSP Manager + CM Music Player on SGSII = Awesome!
etc. and not to mention the overclocking potential of the GSII, I'm finding it hard to resist rooting this phone.
If someone could help me, I'd be eternally grateful. I've searched through the forums thoroughly, and returned nothing of substantial use, but I apologise if I've posted a previously-answered question
Stock Rom thread in Dev section or Branded rom thread dev section reflash original firmware removes root .
The only thread that I've found that is of any use to me really, is this one:
[HOWTO] reset custom binary counter in download mode
Though I am slightly confused by the process
process is turn phone off>> Plug USB jig in to USB port >> phone boots done .
jje
Oh wow, I feel like such an idiot for missing that...
For clarification, you were referring to this thread, yes?
[ROMS]Official i9100 carrier branded firmware download for Odin Flash
And after reading the requirements to reset the binary counter (which, as far as I can tell, is essential if I want to return the device), I don't think I'll be going ahead with rooting the device. Making the jig is out of the question for me, and I have no idea how to properly use it.
Either way, thanks for your help
You can buy the jig on ebay for something like £4, no need to make one yourself. As for using it, it's as JJ said: phone off, jig in... done. I'd be surprised if you couldn't find video instructions on you tube if you wanted to see it in action
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Thanks, Isadora.
So, am I correct in saying:
If I was to root the device, but then need to return it under warranty, all I'd need to do is flash it back to the stock ROM, and then use the jig to reset the binary counter, and it'd be able to be returned under warranty (in theory, at least)?
Sorry for the repetitive questions
screamworks said:
Thanks, Isadora.
So, am I correct in saying:
If I was to root the device, but then need to return it under warranty, all I'd need to do is flash it back to the stock ROM, and then use the jig to reset the binary counter, and it'd be able to be returned under warranty (in theory, at least)?
Sorry for the repetitive questions
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Yes mate - exactly that
I've red on another section of the forum that Samsung put a second hidden counter that cannot be reset... this could void the warranty anyway.
Can anyone confirm ?
NO.
Its a rumour until a second counter if it exists is found .
jje
Ok thanks. Hope it's just a rumour ...
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flute said:
I've red on another section of the forum that Samsung put a second hidden counter that cannot be reset... this could void the warranty anyway.
Can anyone confirm ?
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This is some BS, I've been searching for a second counter and cannot find anything to even suggest that one exists.
edit: Just to clarify I mean the rumour is BS.
I've got two questions,
Since I used a CWM kernal and made a backup of my 2.3.3 rom before I put back on the original kernal can I STILL put CWM back on and then flash and restore from that backup? It's still on the SD card.
Secondly, how do you get rid of the custom binary download counter, the one that shows up when you put the S2 into download mode. I'm just worried that Samsung would refuse service or a store would refuse to take it back plus when I need to return the phone I'd like to have it in as factory condition as possible; is there a way to reset that counter?
aniteshj said:
I've got two questions,
Since I used a CWM kernal and made a backup of my 2.3.3 rom before I put back on the original kernal can I STILL put CWM back on and then flash and restore from that backup? It's still on the SD card.
Secondly, how do you get rid of the custom binary download counter, the one that shows up when you put the S2 into download mode. I'm just worried that Samsung would refuse service or a store would refuse to take it back plus when I need to return the phone I'd like to have it in as factory condition as possible; is there a way to reset that counter?
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1. Yeah as long as you have the backup on your sdcard you can always restore it with CMW
2. You can reset the counter with a usb jig. You can find one from Ebay for example. Just search for a "Samsung Galaxy S II usb jig". This will reset the counter but there is a secondary counter that's counting the times you've used the jig, and there is currently no way to reset that counter that I know of.
I have put on a lot of custom roms and used the usb jib method and too be honest I would be very surprised if a repair happened samsung would't warrant it.
Until that happens and hopefully it won't then no one will really be able to know.
tenretni elibom said:
but there is a secondary counter that's counting the times you've used the jig, and there is currently no way to reset that counter that I know of.
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Is this true? I heard about this rumour several weeks ago here at XDA but no-one could really find or confirm this counter at that time. Could you please tell me where this has been confirmed?
Otherwise there is an obvious risk that this very weak rumour starts to become true due to misunderstanding.
daleski75 said:
I have put on a lot of custom roms and used the usb jib method and too be honest I would be very surprised if a repair happened samsung would't warrant it.
Until that happens and hopefully it won't then no one will really be able to know.
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Well I'll have to slip my supervisor a question about this, I'm only in sales but someone has to know about this.
aniteshj said:
Well I'll have to slip my supervisor a question about this, I'm only in sales but someone has to know about this.
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Why put a custom rom counter on a phone if not to inform service that a custom rom has been installed and therefore warranty is void . Absolutely no other point for the counter .
jje
Does just rooting the phone and not flashing any custom roms void the warranty? Even if I unroot it again?
I was of the understanding that it was flashing roms that started the counter ticking in the phone?
Finally, if I root does it mean I cant keep updating via Kies?
I'm quite sure you avoid your warranty by rooting the phone because for doing that you must replace the firmware with a rooted one
Unroot and use a JIG and you'll fake your phone, 'regaining' your warranty.
salvi1379 said:
I'm quite sure you avoid your warranty by rooting the phone because for doing that you must replace the firmware with a rooted one
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There is other methods of rooting where you don't need to replace the kernal or firmware... This shouldn't void warranty as the custom counter doesn't increase, this also means there's no need for the USB jig..
Have a look at " easy root galaxy s2 " in the forum threads for instructions.
Cheers
Samsung service bulletin clearly stated custom roms and or rooting invalidate Samsung's warranty .
jje
It really depends what country you live in, but in mine, a warranty is implicit - and while screwing around with your phone may void the warranty, it depends on what should be expected.
Given Samsung have clearly allowed ROMs to be easily flashed to devices, if you wanted to push hard enough, they would still have to honour the warranty whether you flashed a new ROM or rooted the device.
Of course if you screw up the device by doing these things, then of course, the warranty is voided - just like if you take it for a swim, or blow it up with dynamite.
Im currently using 2 android devices, the old one is already rooted using CWM recovery. The new one is quite costly and that's why wanted to make sure if rooting the device will void warranty?
Consider that im unrooting the device completely, before taking it to a service center.
ssijt28 said:
Im currently using 2 android devices, the old one is already rooted using CWM recovery. The new one is quite costly and that's why wanted to make sure if rooting the device will void warranty?
Consider that im unrooting the device completely, before taking it to a service center.
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First things first, To put it simply yes, it does void your warranty, And in this case, you are unrooting it to seem as if it was untampered with. That should do you just fine so long as there are no traces of any rooting left behind. Also with that in mind, some newer devices have built in tamper checks that may or may not be reversible. That might not be the case for your device but i figured i let that be known also.
Critical Detox said:
First things first, To put it simply yes, it does void your warranty, And in this case, you are unrooting it to seem as if it was untampered with. That should do you just fine so long as there are no traces of any rooting left behind. Also with that in mind, some newer devices have built in tamper checks that may or may not be reversible. That might not be the case for your device but i figured i let that be known also.
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thank you for solving my issue.
Another question, How do I make sure that traces of rooting isn't left behind?
The newest device I intend to root is Galaxy note 2, does this device comes with a built in tamper check???
The device which is already rooted is Galaxy Star Pro, it has only 1 month of warranty left, what measures should I take before handing this device to the Samsung technicians ?