Hi guys...my O1 is less than 1 week old everything stock 2.2.1 ver 10c dec 2010..but i installed few apps & games..i tried each of them to move in sd card which are possible(internal mem=80mb free,memory card=1.09gb free)..at the beginning it gives quadrant of 454 but after installation of other apps(10) & games(3) its now giving around 415..I dont want to go for custom roms & kernals now..pre loaded task killer set to Auto kill on screen lock..So i want to know are there any cleaner available to clean out the junks or residues out..???Plzzz coment..
Jaani said:
Hi guys...my O1 is less than 1 week old everything stock 2.2.1 ver 10c dec 2010..but i installed few apps & games..i tried each of them to move in sd card which are possible(internal mem=80mb free,memory card=1.09gb free)..at the beginning it gives quadrant of 454 but after installation of other apps(10) & games(3) its now giving around 415..I dont want to go for custom roms & kernals now..pre loaded task killer set to Auto kill on screen lock..So i want to know are there any cleaner available to clean out the junks or residues out..???Plzzz coment..
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Remove that task killer, it slows your phone and drains your battery. Froyo has an incorporated task killer, it keeps active apps that require to be active and closes others. If you really want to force close an app you can do that from the menu.
It also depends what other apps you have installed. Some slow your phone by running in background.
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Remove that task killer, it slows your phone and drains your battery. Froyo has an incorporated task killer, it keeps active apps that require to be active and closes others. If you really want to force close an app you can do that from the menu.
It also depends what other apps you have installed. Some slow your phone by running in background.
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Ok i have stopped task killer & i had look up mobile security but security kept off but now i have uninstalled that too..i dont have too many apps & games loaded..i have
poweramp
mobo player
file expert
quadrant
barcode scanner
opera mini
go launcher(not using it)
Dictionary
raging thunder 2 lite
angry birds seasons
wave blaster....thats it & updated the some google apps among which maps,thinkfree office took max internal space 11 & 15mb respectively..now 84mb free..any good device optimizing app available???
any further suggestions???Tell me guys if i root then will i able to remove those pre loaded apps permanently???& move the needed ones to the sd card???
try supermanager, clear your cache and there is a limit that you can go with an unrooted phone to make it faster.its like applying the brake while u accelerate.to release the brake u have to root and install an oced kernal or a custom rom.
if u dont wish to root please do not complain....stock rom is built for stability only not for speed.
josinpaul said:
try supermanager, clear your cache and there is a limit that you can go with an unrooted phone to make it faster.its like applying the brake while u accelerate.to release the brake u have to root and install an oced kernal or a custom rom.
if u dont wish to root please do not complain....stock rom is built for stability only not for speed.
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I am not complaining.. I am just asking for some suggestions...
if i root can i uninstall the pre loaded apps from the phone???Are there any apps available which can stop the autoruns of the apps which runs automatically in the background???does the operator(in india)takes charge for using google maps for navigation without using gps???1
Jaani said:
if i root can i uninstall the pre loaded apps from the phone???
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Yes, if you root you can uninstall what you want.
I wasn't accusing u.please donot feel offended.ok root gives you the power to be the master of your phone.if u want to have any help pm me.oh and I from India too...gmaps uses data connection and needs to download it occationaly.well there are applications like sygic that uses mapmyindia maps which is saved on ur sdcard and doesn't require any data connection. I am using it on my p500.its good but not as good as gmaps.
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I installed a task killer and noticed that when killing certain apps, the phone just lags real bad. I discontinued use of it and now the phone has no serious pausing. I was killing unknown apps with Android box icons.
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I installed a task killer and noticed that when killing certain apps, the phone just lags real bad. I discontinued use of it and now the phone has no serious pausing. I was killing unknown apps with Android box icons.
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yeah I uninstalled it as well. I heard Android does great job of managing ram and as soon as it gets low, it will start killing other apps automatically.
you need to learn what apps need to stay running, but some apps are just fluff and worthless... you may need to set up you task killer to ignore certain apps like handcent and clock... killing any android processes is usually a bad idea.. I just kill my 3rd party apps that open for no reason or use it to close apps when I am done using my phone for a while...
You should not need a task killer with this phone. Android has been managing its own memory and background services quite nicely for a while now.
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You should not need a task killer with this phone. Android has been managing its own memory and background services quite nicely for a while now.
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Thats what i was told but when i uninstalled the task killer my phone lagged with everything i did. Even when closing programs properly it still lagged. Im keeping my task killer.
acjames said:
Thats what i was told but when i uninstalled the task killer my phone lagged with everything i did. Even when closing programs properly it still lagged. Im keeping my task killer.
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yeah maybe its not as good as most people say it is at controlling its own memory usage.
Task Killers = meh,
Android has a way of doing things and that means keeping apps open for some time, I tried using app-killers and it did not seem to make my phones run better, and auto kill everything is even worse...
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I installed a task killer and noticed that when killing certain apps, the phone just lags real bad. I discontinued use of it and now the phone has no serious pausing. I was killing unknown apps with Android box icons.
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idk if youre rooted or not, or if this app works on the vibrant cuz it does an amazing job on the g1, but you could try autokiller, tho it requires root. what it does is change the android memory management settings and will kill apps more frequently depending on the settings you choose.
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idk if youre rooted or not, or if this app works on the vibrant cuz it does an amazing job on the g1, but you could try autokiller, tho it requires root. what it does is change the android memory management settings and will kill apps more frequently depending on the settings you choose.
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I still need to use it for those unruly apps but I got so used to it because my old phone would lag with Slacker even in the background and I had to kill it. I've stopped using it and I've stopped having major problems. Just an FYI for those out there that still use one, it's not needed here on a regular basis really.
I noticed that I can't use the "kill all" function in Advanced Task Manager by Arron La any more without making my phone freeze up. My brother suggestion Task Manager by Rhythm Software (he has a MyTouch Slide). This program doesn't give me any problems when killing files and also doesn't list system files (that I've noticed).
The people who are having problems with task killer are the ones that are not setting it up correctly or don't have enough apps installed for it to make any difference.
If you don't setup the ignore list correctly your phone will freak out or make your existing problem worse.
Android 2.2 is a different story though, Froyo is faster without a taskiller
Buddy here's what .....
Download AutoKiller from the market , then go to the dev's webpage ,there he has a lot of information about android and memory management .... then you can make an informed decision .... the lag issue you continue to have .,.,..., you might have to do a hard reset to clear the system of that poorly coded task/app killer ....
Here's some more information http://androidforums.com/samsung-vibrant/124542-constant-apps-restarting-themselves.html
I hope that here on xda we can help people to understand Android and memory management , so they are not fooled by these task/app killers that work against the system ......
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I still need to use it for those unruly apps but I got so used to it because my old phone would lag with Slacker even in the background and I had to kill it. I've stopped using it and I've stopped having major problems. Just an FYI for those out there that still use one, it's not needed here on a regular basis really.
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I used to have the original my touch 3g, lag central, even on custom roms. Task killer was handy, so I got in the Babbitt if killing tasks. I then got me a nexus, and it seemed to have not needed one, but I still used it out of the Babbitt and being paranoid of my plbattery being wasted with apps on the background and lag lol. Well, I'm now done with them, seriously, no need for task killers. I think on this phone it does more damage then good, most apps need to be running on the background, killing them just lags your phone. Like you'd lose signal, or it would run time and date update again, etc.
Task killers may not be necessary for memory management, but it will help save on battery by killing 3rd party apps that stay running in the background. I use Advanced Task Manager myself, and never get any lag when I run it. The main thing you need to "exclude" if you havnt already, is the TWLauncher(or whatever launcher you're running).
Hello all,
what a wonderful forum this is.. i feel like a noob here.. so much knowledge to grasp..
well.. i bought a Optimus 1 and installed advanced task killer.. question is whne i kill application not required and exit advanced task killer.. after 2 3 min again some of these applications start.. music.. gmail.. gtalk.. browser etc..
if i want to kill them for good so that they start ONLY when invoked what can i do??.. will task manager v 3.1 help here??
i knw on a comp this can be done by using msconfig..
how to do this on optimus one..
kindly help please..
Install Titanium Backup and then use the "freeze" function to stop the app from starting.
But dont kill all apps. Its ok to kill/freeze apps like Gtalk if you dont use em often but i suggest you leave browser, music etc running.
They run in the background and dont consume the battery or the cpu. The android system is very efficient in managing apps.
hey kewlsid.. thnks fopr the reply.. i ll install this app..
i didnt knw android manages the apps on its own as stated..
is there a way to figure out which currently active app is taking how much of cpu and memory??
Didn't Android have the feature to stop apps as and when memory goes low? Its a 'feature', apparently.
Also, apps like those are going to start anyway. If you have 150 to 200MB+ memory on LG Optimus One (All apps installed), consider yourself lucky.
You can also have TasKiller which is a bit crappy, but helps you know what app is starting on its own. You can use one of the many system monitors to notify you about the apps that are using much memory (Apps like GMail and GTalk won't consume that much memory, hence not a PITA)
You can remove the stock apps (crappy apps that start up on their own and refuse to go away and you never use) if you root your phone. I guess no one would use GTalk that much?
Leave them alone. Sure, they're using some RAM, but more or less they're not using the CPU, so the battery shouldn't be draining.
Killing + them starting again = more battery wastage.
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Leave them alone. Sure, they're using some RAM, but more or less they're not using the CPU, so the battery shouldn't be draining.
Killing + them starting again = more battery wastage.
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I back this statement up
I am using Android 2.3.6 stock rom. My phone becomes very slow every 2-3 mins. When i open a task killer it shows 44mb-51mb ram. I have to clear all the apps and still it would show me 65mb-70nb ram. Phone gets ridiculously slow. Please help me with the solution.
Tusharkamath said:
I am using Android 2.3.6 stock rom. My phone becomes very slow every 2-3 mins. When i open a task killer it shows 44mb-51mb ram. I have to clear all the apps and still it would show me 65mb-70nb ram. Phone gets ridiculously slow. Please help me with the solution.
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-go back to froyo
-or buy a new phone
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Delete useless apps that use RAM unnecessarily...
Prawesome said:
Delete useless apps that use RAM unnecessarily...
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Yea, like Samsung Apps, such a memory hog -.-
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use another task killer, or stop some services from settings->applications->running apps->from there, stop some apps you think uses your phone's memory too much.
other thing, remove any apps that uses data transfer or any background services.
First stop DATA then u need to stop some APPS like Samsung APPs. The way ur telling invokes that ur in STOCk
try to install custom ROM.
or delete some useless app.
Delete bloatware apps.
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i have found a thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18561098
reflash n try a custom rom
Are you using the stock task manager, or some app from the market (play)? If you're using an app, then begin by deleting that app. They do nothing good for your phone, quite the opposite in fact. As long as there is free ram left, then the ram is not to blame. And android should free the ram on it's own, so basically you shouldn't even need to free the ram by yourself.
If that is not the reason, then it is some app you have installed, which keeps running on the background and needlessly uses resources. The ace runs fine, even on stock rom. And that means that, either you or some app, is doing something wrong...
Hy, I have an xperia s 0.73 firmware.
I dont know why, i have everytime opened new aplications in the task killer, and in settings (runing services), i close them, but in a few seconds ar opened again! Like musik player, email, office suite, liveware manager, etc .....
What can i do?
I use advanced task killer, but i think thats not ok to open aplications itselfs.
(Sorry for my english)
Theres a lot of programs built into the Sony that you cannot remove without gaining root access.
You can go to settings/applications/manage applications and the you can remove some of the programs but not all.
yes i know there are o lot of aplications, i dont want to remowe them, just to to someting, to the phone, to not open the aplications itself!!
Liveware will always work cuz its required for hadsets, speakers etc
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Are you new to Android? I had this same confusion when I first moved to Android.. Because it runs on a Linux basis it works differently..
2 things to consider.
1, Android will hold programmes in memory but in a suspended state, not using any resources until they are called for from the kernel.
2, with Linux based OS empty memory is wasted memory. (refer to point 1 above!)
Don't try to kill things that the phone need to have running in the background it will waste resources and battery!
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ies i'm new.
i used ios from three years ios
So i recommand to remove tjhe task killer?
If your device is rooted, you may try install apps like autostarts
Task killers are ok.. But you only need to use it to kill apps which are causing problems (usually just apps which you have installed rather than any preinstalled or system apps)
And generally a bad idea to use any auto kill apps.. Avoid that!
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You just have to live with that unless you are willing to root your phone then use titanium backup to freeze the app. My xps is less than a month old so I just let them be for now because I dont want to root it just yet. There is plenty of ram and does not affect the speed of the phone.
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Task killers are ok.. But you only need to use it to kill apps which are causing problems (usually just apps which you have installed rather than any preinstalled or system apps)
And generally a bad idea to use any auto kill apps.. Avoid that!
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+1 to that. I only use a task killer to get problem apps out of memory sometimes. As a rule android is very good at managing memory.
These things will always start and it usually means the apps stay up quicker.
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+1 to that. I only use a task killer to get problem apps out of memory sometimes. As a rule android is very good at managing memory.
These things will always start and it usually means the apps stay up quicker.
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In addition to that, it doesn't take more or less battery power if the memory is full or empty.
Killing apps and starting them however does take battery power.
OK, THANKS!
I understand.
I thinking about, that open apps are influencing the battery life. But now its clear!
So no auto task killer.
Thanks again!
Am I being paranoid or is my phone getting slower and slower :S I get tired of closing apps in the 'Running Services' tab. Is there a way to completely close an app? I got in the habit of hitting back until I return back to the homescreen but that doesn't work on all apps such as Facebook.
No thats the propper way..
If an app doesnt stop after hitting the back button it wont do this anyway
you have to kill it on task manager
apps like facebook wont close doen because they own notifications and live messaging
jiffer1991 said:
No thats the propper way..
If an app doesnt stop after hitting the back button it wont do this anyway
you have to kill it on task manager
apps like facebook wont close doen because they own notifications and live messaging
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Task Manager? Where is that? I have an Xperia Play
There is a way ... If you use CM go to settings --> applications --> development and stop app via long press
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Hi
Android are supposed to keep apps 'cached' in the background - having them ready should you need them once again.
One way to 'kill' apps, to free memory is to install a 'task manager' og 'task killer' (search one of these phrases in play).
They are designed to kill a list of apps with a single touch...however Google doesn't recommend this way, as they claims it might leave the system in an unstable state.
As i can't post links, you can 'google' this: 'task-killers-answer-google-developers'
You might have a rogue app or memory leaks, or your VM values are bad for your device. Are you running out of RAM? Is your CPU usage maxing out? Are you using swap or compcache? What are your VM/sysctrl values? All these things and much more can destroy a ROM.
I find that many custom ROM's have a habit of using stupid VM values. Try getting RAM Manager from Play Store and using the "Balance" preset, it works great. I also highly suggest "SystemPanel App" from Play Store (costs $3), it has an awesome Monitoring function to record a history of how all your apps, services and processes are using the CPU. That is, if the CPU is maxing out... get a CPU Usage Monitor to find that out.
EDIT: If you are using an sd-ext partition, it can also kill performance. Especially if you move dalvik-cache to sd.
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Task Manager? Where is that? I have an Xperia Play
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ehm i got a samsung so if i long press the home button it appears if u dont have a taskmanager built in ur rom hjust download task killer from the playstore