I want to know of their is any way to stop my O1 to crash when I overclock it to 806mhz...
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LOL, stick it in the fridge... Or solder a bunch of heatpipes on it?
Seriously, if it is unstable, you do not need more cooling but primarily more voltage. And since that is just impossible to do, go and do some less overzealous overclocking -> problem solved.
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LOL, stick it in the fridge... Or solder a bunch of heatpipes on it?
Seriously, if it is unstable, you do not need more cooling but primarily more voltage. And since that is just impossible to do, go and do some less overzealous overclocking -> problem solved.
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Just curious as to why it's impossible to up the voltage on this chipset. I've searched and can't find any info.
On a side note the msm7227 in the galaxy ace runs at 800 and there are many p500's that can't handle that clock speed. Wonder if it is running at a higher voltage in that phone or if something else is different about it.
Something else is definitely different....
I run my phone at 806 with the Franco kernel although I think that it was unstable on other kernels. I would like to try higher I know it at least booted before at 825
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Just curious as to why it's impossible to up the voltage on this chipset. I've searched and can't find any info.
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Voltage adjustment unsupported by chipset/CPU.
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Voltage adjustment unsupported by chipset/CPU.
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Thanks for the reply. I had read that there was no voltage scaling but wondered if the the overall voltage could be increased with the proper kernel. Aosp said he was going to be working on a kernel, had my hopes up that it might include a voltage increase. Sucks to hear its a hardware limitation.
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Hi! Nexus Guys
See this:.. 1267 [email protected] Kernel 100 % stable at our devices
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=682419
If the desire easily can handle it why the nexus not ? @ 1.3 V some HW/Chip changes ?
is this working on your devices ( the 0x21 Line @ 1.3V)?
I installed this kernel. This kernel work @1133MHz and WiFi not work
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Hi! Nexus Guys
See this:.. 1267 [email protected] Kernel 100 % stable at our devices
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=682419
If the desire easily can handle it why the nexus not ? @ 1.3 V some HW/Chip changes ?
is this working on your devices ( the 0x21 Line @ 1.3V)?
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1.3V is not sufficient voltage for the N1, not at the higher frequencies. Dunno why Desire does, don't have one....
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1.3V is not sufficient voltage for the N1, not at the higher frequencies. Dunno why Desire does, don't have one....
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I understand the voltage not being sufficient, but can we push the voltage a little higher?
Yes I understand the risks of frying your chip and all, but is it possible?
And the Desire has a lot of different hardware compared to the Nexus, such as the TPA2018 speaker amplifier which gives it its louder audio, and hardware keys. People seem to forget that it is a different device, they don't have the same hardware
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I understand the voltage not being sufficient, but can we push the voltage a little higher?
Yes I understand the risks of frying your chip and all, but is it possible?
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Changing the regulator voltage has been done despite being a completely stupid idea - it's not very hard but if you can't figure it out check out Gr8Gorilla's posts as he's (controversially) documented the process.
I've never understood the appeal - it's not a show of ability since it's just luck as to which silicon you got, and it's not achieving much... but some people like frying phones for some reason.
100% stable? Crazy, I had my N1 running 1.267ghz and I could use the phone for about 15 seconds and it would reboot. I think I was at 1.35V though.
0x21 absolutely does not work with stability on most most N1s, no matter how much voltage you pump in.
0x22+ should not even work on the qsd8x50 without really low level tweaks that nobody but Qualcomm knows how to do. It might be impossible.
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0x21 absolutely does not work with stability on most most N1s, no matter how much voltage you pump in.
0x22+ should not even work on the qsd8x50 without really low level tweaks that nobody but Qualcomm knows how to do. It might be impossible.
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Okey then
What is it? Purpose? How do you do it? How does it optimize my phone?
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Google is your friend. Search CPU OVERCLOCKING.
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It's something cool, you could use SetCPU or Overclock Widget, and it's like adding rocket-fuel to a campfire.
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Google is your friend. Search CPU OVERCLOCKING.
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the time it took you to be a smart ass you could have just said what it did.
i did a search for it and yet it wasnt informative enough. hence why i came here and asked.
Google want enough? Wow! Over clocking increases the clock speed of your cpu making it calculate faster.
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the time it took you to be a smart ass you could have just said what it did.
i did a search for it and yet it wasn't informative enough. hence why i came here and asked.
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Alright, then I'm sorry Google couldn't answer your question. (Which is odd, since overclocking is kinda popular.)
Anyways, Overclocking means to "Make the CPU go faster than it was designed for". Some devices "like the hero" can jump from 518mhz to a stable 691mhz by overclocking, this increases the speed of the CPU so that programs and the OS can work faster.
But overclocking is about finding the highest speed, while having the stability to use it. Since it's no use to overclock, if it makes your phone unusable to use. (Force closes, phone freezing etc.)
Overclocking CAN harm your device, if you take a too high value. But if you stay inside a stable zone, there shouldn't be any harm to your device.
You can experience that the phone is getting a bit hot, or that the battery is emptied faster than normal.
Since the CPU drains so much power, there are settings that allow to set a different clock (how fast the device should go in mhz) when the phone is at sleep. So that it can run at a much lower frequency, when you don't use it.
ROM developers normally post ( 691/197 ) or something at their thread, the first number is the CPU speed when it's on and you're using it. And the other is when the phone is at sleep.
If there's anything other you want the answer to, ask it here.
But, please use Gooogle search Before posting anything.
Overclocking increases the clock speeds of a CPU. And as a result means it can do *things* faster.
Overclocking on a desktop PC tends to increase the voltages to overclock the device over this isn't really an option on a phone as it has limited battery life. So overclocking on a phone is normally done by software changes. When CPU makers make a CPU they can not be 100% accurate on the performance of that chip - in fact its very much the opposite, so after each chip is made it is tested and then given a clock speed and locked to that, overclocking breaks that and allows you to manually increase the clock, however overclocking capabilities will be different on every device.
If you take an example of an Intel Chip, a 2.66GHz Core-2-Duo, this is exactly the same chip as the 3.06GHz however when tested it wouldn't run as fast so Intel sell it at a stable clock speed.
Overclocking the hero shouldn't really have any implications for the device, however overclocks can reduce the life-time of a CPU (and any other hardware you might overclock). You shouldn't notice much extra heat from the device as the voltages being used are not changing.
Hope that cleared some of it up for you.
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the time it took you to be a smart ass you could have just said what it did.
i did a search for it and yet it wasnt informative enough. hence why i came here and asked.
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Did you forget to press the search button?
Some of the top results from google:
Wikipedia
What is Overclocking?
What is overclocking?
What is overclocking?
Overclocking Guide
Really was that so hard?
First I am aware that overclocking is not "safe" and all that kind of stuff
However for some reason I am unable to OC my SGS2 and run the phone on a steady way.
I have tried several ROMs (stock and custom) with different kernels and OCing apps with no avail.
I am not even able to run at 1.4Ghz or 1.6Ghz without having my phone reboot or hard lock on me.
Is there a particular or recommended setting (most successful combination) that anyone out there can suggest me trying?
Sometimes it will hang under heavy gaming but sometimes even browsing app and regular stuff will cause the phone to reboot or lock. If I work with no OCing at all then everything is fine and dandy.
Thanks, you can see my current configuration @ my signature.
Sounds like a very temperamental cpu. Currently I have the same setup you do and have never had issue with 1400mhz or 1600mhz. Though I usually leave mine at 1200mhz. What app are you running when it hangs?
And just as important, do you have alot running in the background? The modified touchwiz launcher unnamed comes with can be enabled to show a red dot next to the apps that have been opened and are in the background.
If you could list the apps with the red dots.
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The modified touchwiz launcher unnamed comes with can be enabled to show a red dot next to the apps that have been opened and are in the background.
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It does? That sounds more like one of the themes that includes TW4.5.
Not all CPUs can overclock - there's a reason it was sold as a 1.2 GHz chip.
Well as I've mentioned before, it could even hand when browsing through my apps menu, browsing the gallery, playing a game (non in particular) and the funny part is that the phone is not even hot to touch.
What I know for sure if that if no OC = no hangs, no reboots.
I do have the App monitor widget that comes with the stock ROM and currently using it on UnNamed 1.3.1 and I only have Widget Locker App. However I have try closing it and still will happen.
Not sure if maybe this CPU is somehow having an issue that makes it unstable as soon as I OC it.
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Not all CPUs can overclock - there's a reason it was sold as a 1.2 GHz chip.
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Now that is new to me, I thought that all of them were OCable. Is there anyway to identify which can be or not OCed?
nope.. just by testing. it does have to do a little bit with the kernel and rom. the roms didnt originally have stable OC. i would assume that all of them do now. one thing you might try is giving them a little more voltage (just a little) at the higher clocks, but be careful. if you increase the voltage that means that you will sink more enery through the cpu and it will get hot quick. make sure you watch the temp.
i find that setcpu is less stable than the built in cm7 oc menu but cm7 doesnt have a voltage menu.
but on the same token... why OC? i can and i did but i dont need to... everything is like butter and i didnt see that huge a gain by OCing it anyways
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nope.. just by testing. it does have to do a little bit with the kernel and rom. the roms didnt originally have stable OC. i would assume that all of them do now. one thing you might try is giving them a little more voltage (just a little) at the higher clocks, but be careful. if you increase the voltage that means that you will sink more enery through the cpu and it will get hot quick. make sure you watch the temp.
i find that setcpu is less stable than the built in cm7 oc menu but cm7 doesnt have a voltage menu.
but on the same token... why OC? i can and i did but i dont need to... everything is like butter and i didnt see that huge a gain by OCing it anyways
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I know, this Exynos processor is the best out there right now, forget about Qualcomm's Snapdragon on the Skyrocket. I am just trying to OC for the fun of it
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I know, this Exynos processor is the best out there right now, forget about Qualcomm's Snapdragon on the Skyrocket. I am just trying to OC for the fun of it
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Although it makes me wonder if the CPU could be having an issue, since it hard locks when attempting to.
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Although it makes me wonder if the CPU could be having an issue, since it hard locks when attempting to.
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have you ever overclocked PC CPUs? if you have spent much time doing that, then you would know that not every chip, even within the same model/family, will clock the same. take 2 CPUs, from the same batch, same model, with identical hardware tied to them. you will probably find that one clocks higher stable speeds than the other.
its very likely the proc in your phone just cannot handle the overclocks that the next person's could.
Like pirate said, no two pieces of hardware are identical. Sort of shows how much variance there can be in a manufacturing process. Id guess theres a few chips that come off the same line that arent stable at 1.2 ghz, but they dont make it to the devices, whereas one that can handle a higher clock will. (No sense tossing one that exceeds minimum requirements, thatd just be throwing good hardware away)
You could try nudgin the voltage up and seeing how it behaves, just use caution.
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It does? That sounds more like one of the themes that includes TW4.5.
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My bad. You are correct.
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To get mine to overclock to 1.4 and 1.6Ghz I had to actually INCREASE the voltage settings via Voltage control app. So my settings are: 1.6Ghz= 1475mV and 1.4Ghz=1325mV
Try those out and see if is better for you. I tried undervolting the higher voltages and would either lockup or reboot instantly until I tried adding voltages. So you may need to play with your settings to get it to work for you.
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twiggums said:
Like pirate said, no two pieces of hardware are identical. Sort of shows how much variance there can be in a manufacturing process. Id guess theres a few chips that come off the same line that arent stable at 1.2 ghz, but they dont make it to the devices, whereas one that can handle a higher clock will. (No sense tossing one that exceeds minimum requirements, thatd just be throwing good hardware away)
You could try nudgin the voltage up and seeing how it behaves, just use caution.
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Yup, or if they want to sell a "premium" device with a higher clock rate, they will take the parts that test well at 1.4 and sell them as such - meaning parts rated 1.2 will be LESS likely to be overclockable if a device comes out with CPUs rated at 1.4 - like the Galaxy Note did.
Before, anything that could meet the requirements of stable at 1.2 was sold to any Galaxy S II - but now, the premium parts are going into the Note.
RockRatt said:
To get mine to overclock to 1.4 and 1.6Ghz I had to actually INCREASE the voltage settings via Voltage control app. So my settings are: 1.6Ghz= 1475mV and 1.4Ghz=1325mV
Try those out and see if is better for you. I tried undervolting the higher voltages and would either lockup or reboot instantly until I tried adding voltages. So you may need to play with your settings to get it to work for you.
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I am having the same issue as the original poster on my new GS2. I will have to try the settings you mention but would it be possible to do this and also apply /UV to the remaining lower (1000ghz to 200ghz) processor speeds and maintain stability?
ive tried every rom/kernal combination and with each i get lock ups when doing intensive cpu work such as a game or benchmark overclocked to 1.6 any ideas? Thanks
Just means your processor was built a little weak. Its only built to run at 1.2ghz so anything above that is pushing it hard... some phones can be oc'd that much, some can't. Just take it down to 1.4. I can't even get mine to 1.4 so he thankful
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What voltage do you have it at? Try raising it 25mV at a time stressing you cpu at each step until you're stable. That is if you are determined to run 1.6 and i would not push more than +100mV personally.
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ive tried every rom/kernal combination and with each i get lock ups when doing intensive cpu work such as a game or benchmark overclocked to 1.6 any ideas? Thanks
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Have you considered there is a reason that your phone was only sold as capable of 1.2 GHz?
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Have you considered there is a reason that your phone was only sold as capable of 1.2 GHz?
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Wow... You got real issues man..The OP is just looking for some tips from others that have succeeded in getting their phones to 1.6.. You need some help buddy...
If youve nothing nice to say..
But then I guess youd never speak would you?
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Stevenrogers_420 said:
If youve nothing nice to say..
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Hope you heed your own advice.
Stevenrogers_420 said:
Wow... You got real issues man..The OP is just looking for some tips from others that have succeeded in getting their phones to 1.6.. You need some help buddy...
If youve nothing nice to say..
But then I guess youd never speak would you?
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I do not think entropy is the one who has issues...
This has been discussed in 10 different threads already and in great detail. If the OP did as much as search he would of have found the answer himself. That is why they call it research
the only question left is...... You mad bro?
Keep all voltages stock, then use voltage congrol and click on 1400 and increment the slider+ 25, then do the same for 1600. This is what i had to do to get my phone stable at 1.6 Some phones may need EXTRA voltage and others need less. It takes some testing to get your particular phone stable at anything over 1.2Ghz. I only did it to see if I saw any gains. Actually for me and my phone I found as far as MY SETUP and testing many different benchmark style apps at 1.4Ghz i got better benchmarks than i did at 1.6Ghz. Now everyones phones will act sligbtly different so your mileage may vary.
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At 1.6 ghz... your phone will be discharging your battery ON your charger... I personally wouldn't recommend doing it as it gets the phone really hot, and causes the chip lots of stress due to high heat. Personally if you need more performance (this phones pretty damn fast anyways) go to 1.4ghz.
Most of our phones can be overclocked to 1.4 and some can go to 1.6 but not all. If you change the voltages and it still craps out, then take it down a notch to 1.4 and see how that works for you.
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Have you considered there is a reason that your phone was only sold as capable of 1.2 GHz?
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Now now. Since when do we encourage keeping things stock.
My point is - if it were guaranteed to hit 1.6, it would be sold as 1.6.
Being able to hit 1.6 is luck of the draw, pure and simple.
There's a reason:
1) OC is not default on my kernel
2) I held off on providing OC support for a while here, and NEVER released it on Infuse (users weren't mature enough to handle it over there)
3) I have a warning in GIANT RED LETTERS not to complain about OC stability issues on my kernel thread.
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My point is - if it were guaranteed to hit 1.6, it would be sold as 1.6.
Being able to hit 1.6 is luck of the draw, pure and simple.
There's a reason:
1) OC is not default on my kernel
2) I held off on providing OC support for a while here, and NEVER released it on Infuse (users weren't mature enough to handle it over there)
3) I have a warning in GIANT RED LETTERS not to complain about OC stability issues on my kernel thread.
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This is all true... but the OP was simply asking a question now lets all play nice.
We should have an OC that allows n00bs to melt their cpu.... 2.5ghz ftw
No no no.... We have too many "I tried to load the ICS in the I9100 forums, and I bricked my phone, please help!" threads. we don't need "I OC'ed my phone to 8ghz and melted my cpu" threads too
Tegrak allows you to go past 1.6. I thought these CPU were locked @ 1.6 but i had to up my voltage at 1.7 and i got a small bump in my benches though i probably did run my test enough to confirm the bump. At so.e point, when i get some time ill beat on my CPU some more
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At 1.6 ghz... your phone will be discharging your battery ON your charger... I personally wouldn't recommend doing it as it gets the phone really hot, and causes the chip lots of stress due to high heat. Personally if you need more performance (this phones pretty damn fast anyways) go to 1.4ghz.
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I ran my phone at 1.6 for days just to see performance. No UV at all.. battery certainly drained faster, but not while charging. It charged just fine.. and stayed cool even when stressing. Like many have stated, all CPU's are slightly different .. just cause yours melts at 1.6 and wont charge doesn't mean this will happen for anyone trying to run 1.6GHz.
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Try bumpin' up the voltage 1-2 notches.
Just to add to the stats...
I've been able to run @ 1.4 with the same voltage as 1.2, but my phone will freeze once in a while when running apps like camera or navigation. Had to bump the voltage up slightly to get it stable, though I will likely just run 1.2.
I cannot run at 1.6.
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Just to add to the stats...
I've been able to run @ 1.4 with the same voltage as 1.2, but my phone will freeze once in a while when running apps like camera or navigation. Had to bump the voltage up slightly to get it stable, though I will likely just run 1.2.
I cannot run at 1.6.
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Try changing or updating your kernel. Im the OP and had the same problems. with the new siyah kernel at 1.6 even if i try i cant make it lock up or freeze.
Your processor was made from a different silicon wafer than other people's phones and was rated for 1.2ghz.
Since each wafer is different, some processors take voltage better than others as well as speed. It happens.
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Hey guys,
I have just installed OmegaRom by Team Cooper and what a Rom it is!!! Amazing is an understatement.
Okay so with there new Rom v2, it has an OC kernal built in and it does work...BUT I need to know how to OC the thing safely and squeezing as much performance as possible!
I have it at 825 and min 806 mhz, scaler is performance.
What settings would you pro's recommened?
Thanks!
Edit 1- I am using SetCPU to OC.
"overclock" and "safe" cannot be use in the same sentence, it just wrong.
theres no safe overclocking. moreover each and every device is unique even for the same model.
what is working with others doesnt guarantee it'll works with yours.
an0nym0us_ said:
"overclock" and "safe" cannot be use in the same sentence, it just wrong.
theres no safe overclocking. moreover each and every device is unique even for the same model.
what is working with others doesnt guarantee it'll works with yours.
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What I meant was a stable OC that may work with my phone... I OC computers too so I know the risk's involved. So what I was asking was what OC's worked with peoples phones so I could get a rough idea on how to govern my cpu and OC it without totally messing it up.
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What I meant was a stable OC that may work with my phone... I OC computers too so I know the risk's involved. So what I was asking was what OC's worked with peoples phones so I could get a rough idea on how to govern my cpu and OC it without totally messing it up.
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i hope u are aware of the ill effects of OCing.....battery takes a real beating....well i have done it upto 886 mhz....many others have done it upto 1ghz mark...but i personally do not recommend...
CPU Tuner
I try CPU Tuner, is similar ti setCPU but is free whit THE END 3.0 custom ROM and use the 864-254 mhz for screen on and 480-122 for screen off whitout problems, previously I use 904 mhz, but sometime it freeze...
Bye Pistaaa
sreesh87 said:
i hope u are aware of the ill effects of OCing.....battery takes a real beating....well i have done it upto 886 mhz....many others have done it upto 1ghz mark...but i personally do not recommend...
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I have OCed it to 902 mhz..
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Thanks for the comments guys... Gives me a rough estimate on its limits.
So far I have been running 844mhz performance for a while, since I created this thread and the battery has remained at 82%!
I have benched using AnTuTu twice and have excellent read and write speeds, compared to other benchies I have seen, OmegaRom is the best Rom I have ever used!
Cheers,
i tried cpufrills and its the best for me
I don't Think U mustuse over clocking,even my setting was min245 max 902,the effect just draining more battery,and if using to much can damaging ur prosessor
I know you might think what I'm going to write is unnecessary and going to contradict with your believes here. but I'm going say it anyway.
If you are going to use your device for a long time then I would suggest not to overclock too much. You'll know when something will go wrong with your over-clocking. Your SGA would start rebooting randomly. Heating up would be excessively common once you start overclocking, using your SGA while it's charging. Over clocking will definitely reduce your processor life span. People who do can over clock their device to get the max out of their device and know they're going to change the device in sometime later anyway.
Rushyang said:
I know you might think what I'm going to write is unnecessary and going to contradict with your believes here. but I'm going say it anyway.
If you are going to use your device for a long time then I would suggest not to overclock too much. You'll know when something will go wrong with your over-clocking. Your SGA would start rebooting randomly. Heating up would be excessively common once you start overclocking, using your SGA while it's charging. Over clocking will definitely reduce your processor life span. People who do can over clock their device to get the max out of their device and know they're going to change the device in sometime later anyway.
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Don't worry! Like I said, I have experience O/C'ing processors etc and I know how bad the effects can be! I am not going for a massive overclock at all. Just a tiny bump in the speed. At the moment, I am running 825mhz and already the speed has improved dramatically. I may go a little further but 902mhz is a bit mental for my liking.
Pistaaa said:
I try CPU Tuner, is similar ti setCPU but is free whit THE END 3.0 custom ROM and use the 864-254 mhz for screen on and 480-122 for screen off whitout problems, previously I use 904 mhz, but sometime it freeze...
Bye Pistaaa
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SetCPU is free for XDA members and it's the best one ever...period
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419
Pistaaa said:
I try CPU Tuner, is similar ti setCPU but is free whit THE END 3.0 custom ROM and use the 864-254 mhz for screen on and 480-122 for screen off whitout problems, previously I use 904 mhz, but sometime it freeze...
Bye Pistaaa
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setCPU is free to if you download it from the forum