Hi All,
Since most of us have been moving to US Tmob and GB froyo, the blur launcher has been tweeked and made to work like a gem. It is really smooth and I do not find necessity to go to Launcher Pro.
Walter had previously put out a themed blur launcher like this one for his MS2 ROM. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743372
Unfortunately it cannot be used on these froyo builds. Can anyone please theme the stock launcher please?.
I tried many times on all froyo builds to make the themed launcher work but could not do so. Walter had given a zip file to install it from CWM but that kept bricking the phone and I had to use alternate launcher to keep the phone running and flash an sbf.
Can anyone do that pleaaase ?
Im with you on this one too. I actually like the original blur launcher but it would be nice if you could actually change the assignment of the right hand button to go to text messaging or setttings etc..
Wondering where walter is these days. He can help if he sees this.
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I'm sure this topic has been covered before but I'm not sure I have found my answer;
Is there any advantage to using a de-sensed Rom with a launcher such as Launcher Pro or Go over using a Sense Rom AND an alternate launcher.
Is there a speed or memory management or battery advantage?
I ask this because I like the work of the devs here but would like to use an alternate launcher with their existing framework. Thanks.
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I think the battery saving come from using a better kernel and not necessarily the launcher.
Otherwise, i think its just a matter of preference what you use. If I am wrong please correct me.
Hi
Just bringing up an old thread... I also wanted to know the same thing.
Does having Sense mean you can have FriendStream / HTCSense.com accoutn on you phone...
In other words, if you use a non Sense ROM, you cannot l=use the locate phoen feature of HTCSense ?
Plus, any other advantages/disadvantages.
What are some popular Sense / nonSense ROM's ?
Ta
There are a few AOSP stock Gingerbread launchers on the market. Which one is the best? I've used a few ROMs in the past that say they use one from the market, but I never saw which one.
I know the GB launcher that came in liberty rom was extremely fluid and you could add more icons to the dock as well. I think you could have up to 4-5 icons? You could try finding the rom extracting the apk and setting the proper permisisons. But It might look weird since I doubt it is coded properly for our resolution. Could ask kejar and see if he'll be interested in hooking you up perhaps? I'm not too sure about the market ones tbh, just found their performance lacking imo.
According to the CM team, Gingerbread's launcher was never open-sourced. So... who knows what that says about the supposedly AOSP launchers on the market.
CM went with ADW for their ROMs. Which pretty much mimic the look and feel of the stock GB Nexus launchers by default.
Long story short, about a year ago i got a Motorola Bravo (Android) phone for a few weeks but returned it because I couldn't really afford a data plan at the time. About a month ago I switched back to smartphones, this time for good, and now have a Samsung Galaxy SII.
The motorola phone had some AWESOME user-friendly features, such as resizing of widgets. Is this taken out because of Touchwiz or was that an older version of Android that's now obsolete? What all does Touchwiz take away functionality-wise? What does Gingerbread (2.3.6 to be specific) look like without Touchwiz?
I've yet to root my phone (the only reason I'd have right now is more battery life) but if I could reove Touchwiz and get some serious UI improvements, that'd definitely be a gamechanger for me
Motorola has Moto blur I think
HTC has sense
Samsung has TouchWiz
The clean Androind would be an AOSP based rom, like CM9/AOKP
I don't know if you understand me, I think I'm drunk or something right know can't remember
Oh
Galaxy Nexus is like what it looks witout the Touchwiz.
ScelestusAnimus said:
Long story short, about a year ago i got a Motorola Bravo (Android) phone for a few weeks but returned it because I couldn't really afford a data plan at the time. About a month ago I switched back to smartphones, this time for good, and now have a Samsung Galaxy SII.
The motorola phone had some AWESOME user-friendly features, such as resizing of widgets. Is this taken out because of Touchwiz or was that an older version of Android that's now obsolete? What all does Touchwiz take away functionality-wise? What does Gingerbread (2.3.6 to be specific) look like without Touchwiz?
I've yet to root my phone (the only reason I'd have right now is more battery life) but if I could reove Touchwiz and get some serious UI improvements, that'd definitely be a gamechanger for me
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Make sure to go the MIUI route if you're on GB or go the AOKP route if you're on ICS. Those are good starting points if you want to see some nice UI improvements. If you decide to go AOKP make sure to mess around in ROM control.
AOSP stock apps on ICS (AOKP/CM9) are much nicer than touchwizz/samsung ics apps.
UI Ranking
#1 AOSP (AOKP,CM9) and MIUI [all ICS based]
#2 MIUI GB , Sensation ROM GB (Samsung based rom), AOSP GB (CM7) (LunarUI theme)
#3 Stock Samsung ROM or Stock CM7 [both GB based]
Recommend Choice is AOKP http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574718
Just make sure you know what you're doing when you flash
You just need a different launcher. Try go launcher.
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Biporch said:
Motorola has Moto blur I think
HTC has sense
Samsung has TouchWiz
The clean Androind would be an AOSP based rom, like CM9/AOKP
I don't know if you understand me, I think I'm drunk or something right know can't remember
Oh
Galaxy Nexus is like what it looks witout the Touchwiz.
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Oh yeah! Now that you mention it, i remember reading about Motoblur.
Cryosx said:
Make sure to go the MIUI route if you're on GB or go the AOKP route if you're on ICS. Those are good starting points if you want to see some nice UI improvements. If you decide to go AOKP make sure to mess around in ROM control.
AOSP stock apps on ICS (AOKP/CM9) are much nicer than touchwizz/samsung ics apps.
UI Ranking
#1 AOSP (AOKP,CM9) and MIUI [all ICS based]
#2 MIUI GB , Sensation ROM GB (Samsung based rom), AOSP GB (CM7) (LunarUI theme)
#3 Stock Samsung ROM or Stock CM7 [both GB based]
Recommend Choice is AOKP http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574718
Just make sure you know what you're doing when you flash
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Are these custom Roms or just the normal Android OS without the company's additions to it? I have gingerbread atm (I'd rather wait for ICS until the official release from AT&T)
hobbs said:
You just need a different launcher. Try go launcher.
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I tried Go launcher. I didn't like how it was basically an OS on top of the normal OS. They both were running at the same time and I had to rearrange my apps to make them the same as they were. I just want the Android OS without the stupid additions/subtractions from Samsung/Motorola/etc >.<
However I have to say, I do like how Go Launcher doesn't require rooting
ScelestusAnimus said:
I tried Go launcher. I didn't like how it was basically an OS on top of the normal OS. They both were running at the same time and I had to rearrange my apps to make them the same as they were. I just want the Android OS without the stupid additions/subtractions from Samsung/Motorola/etc >.<
However I have to say, I do like how Go Launcher doesn't require rooting
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You do realize, right, that Touchwiz is a launcher too? And even vanilla Android builds use a launcher? When you use Go Launcher, it's not running "on top of" what's already there; it's replacing Touchwiz.
I'm sorry, but you can't have vanilla Android OS without installing it in the form of a custom ROM. Samsung makes their own builds of Android, which is what you have. If you want something else, somebody else has to build it...meaning the developers on this forum.
mattdm said:
You do realize, right, that Touchwiz is a launcher too? And even vanilla Android builds use a launcher? When you use Go Launcher, it's not running "on top of" what's already there; it's replacing Touchwiz.
I'm sorry, but you can't have vanilla Android OS without installing it in the form of a custom ROM. Samsung makes their own builds of Android, which is what you have. If you want something else, somebody else has to build it...meaning the developers on this forum.
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Maybe it just felt like that because I could cancel it at any time and go back and forth between normal touchwiz and Go launcher. I know this is a versatility feature, but I'd rather have that disabled, as crazy as it may sound.
But that's good to know. I didn't know a launcher was REQUIRED, just thought it was what most people did. I'll look into other launchers.
Is there still one where you can resize the UI elements and stuff like that?
ScelestusAnimus said:
Maybe it just felt like that because I could cancel it at any time and go back and forth between normal touchwiz and Go launcher. I know this is a versatility feature, but I'd rather have that disabled, as crazy as it may sound.
But that's good to know. I didn't know a launcher was REQUIRED, just thought it was what most people did. I'll look into other launchers.
Is there still one where you can resize the UI elements and stuff like that?
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As mattdm said, all Android builds require a launcher. Otherwise you'd have no usable GUI. When you were switching back and forth between GO and TouchWiz were you using a home/launcher switcher, or were you just using the default ui to choose one each time you went to your home screen?
You can have several launchers installed and use a switcher to make one "stick" until you decide you want a different look/feel.
Some prefer GO or LauncherPro. I use ADW EX and TouchWiz. ADW and LauncherPro are very configurable. VERY. Both have their ardent fans. I've not used GO.
PS: You do NOT want the ability to change launchers disabled. ;-)
ScelestusAnimus said:
Maybe it just felt like that because I could cancel it at any time and go back and forth between normal touchwiz and Go launcher. I know this is a versatility feature, but I'd rather have that disabled, as crazy as it may sound.
But that's good to know. I didn't know a launcher was REQUIRED, just thought it was what most people did. I'll look into other launchers.
Is there still one where you can resize the UI elements and stuff like that?
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Uhh... touchwiz lets you resize certain widgets... (UI elements) pretty sure go launcher and adw ex do too...
Biporch said:
The clean Androind would be an AOSP based rom, like CM9/AOKP
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CM9 uses the Trebuchet launcher. as it has been hammered multiple times, all roms use some sort of launcher. I'm not sure what AOKP uses, but I'd wager its either Trebuchet, nova, or apex..
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CM9 uses the Trebuchet launcher. as it has been hammered multiple times, all roms use some sort of launcher. I'm not sure what AOKP uses, but I'd wager its either Trebuchet, nova, or apex..
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I believe it comes with both apex and nova. They are fairly similar but each have a few unique features.
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CM9 uses the Trebuchet launcher. as it has been hammered multiple times, all roms use some sort of launcher. I'm not sure what AOKP uses, but I'd wager its either Trebuchet, nova, or apex..
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Tasks came with trebuchet. I switched to nova and I'm fairly sure that apex came on it too.
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ScelestusAnimus said:
Long story short, about a year ago i got a Motorola Bravo (Android) phone for a few weeks but returned it because I couldn't really afford a data plan at the time. About a month ago I switched back to smartphones, this time for good, and now have a Samsung Galaxy SII.
The motorola phone had some AWESOME user-friendly features, such as resizing of widgets. Is this taken out because of Touchwiz or was that an older version of Android that's now obsolete? What all does Touchwiz take away functionality-wise? What does Gingerbread (2.3.6 to be specific) look like without Touchwiz?
I've yet to root my phone (the only reason I'd have right now is more battery life) but if I could reove Touchwiz and get some serious UI improvements, that'd definitely be a gamechanger for me
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First off, Welcome to Samsung!
A little background.
AOSP = Android Open Source Program. Meaning, a open source of code editable by anyone.
Touchwiz/Motoblur/Sense = Not AOSP, they were written as a launcher/GUI for each phone by their developer (Motorola/Samsung/HTC). On top of that, these GUI/Overlays have their fingers into everything on a phone, this is why updates take so long. Google creates a new version of Android and passes it to the phone manufacturer, they in turn need to take that new version and paste their GUI/Overlay on top of it, this takes time and money. Further, once the phone manufacturer finishes updating, they need to give the software to the vendor (VZW/AT&T etc) who add more bloat/custom crap to the software.
Custom ROM's, are and are not AOSP, Some are pure AOSP like AOKP or CM (Cyanogenmod), they are written by groups of people, all of whom work in concert to bring you the ROM. Then there are custom ROM's that are not in the realm of AOSP. For example, I use Phone Bricker, written by LilChris here on XDA. This ROM is not really Open Source as it's written by one person, the author may give out the source, I don't know.
So what would your phone look like w/o Touchwiz? CM9/AOKP is as close as you'll get. Those ROMs use the closest to stock version of Android.
To confuse matters even more, there are Launchers, Go Launcher/Apex etc. They operate as yet another GUI on top of a GUI, inside a ROM. So you could have a stock, unrooted Galaxy S2, with Touchwiz and Go Launcher, and customize it to make it look like you want it too. Or, you could root your phone, Update to CM9 (running Ice Cream Sandwich btw), and use the launcher that they have there, or change that to Go Launcher.
The options are endless, read read read. I am new to Samsung, I came from Motorola where things are done quite a bit differently. I can tell you this though, you are infinitely better off with a Samsung phone than a Motorola Phone. Not only does Motoblur blow chunks, but Motorola is a terrible company as far as software updates go. Toss in locked bootloaders... anyway, I hope the above answered your question.
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I had an Incredible for almost 3 years and I loved the setup I had on it. I switched back forth between "Sense-less" (or de-sensed for Rezound users) and AOSP depending on what mood I was in. I was rooted and S-OFF.
I have been browsing through the forums, flashing various ROM, and trying desperately to catch up on all the in's and out's of our beloved phone. I really had my heart set on running CM10 once I got my Rezound, but unfortunately, bluetooth doesn't work on AOSP ROMs and that's a deal breaker. So, I've been shopping de-sensed ROMs and I can't find one that I really like 100%.
Why do I want de-sensed? I use third-party launchers because of the customization and ability to have multiple docks. Therefore, most of the Sense widgets are not needed on my phone.
The features that I am looking for:
- Based of the latest Global RUU, all VZW crap removed
- De-sensed to a degree where nothing becomes "broken" (I want everything to work. Sense camera is a must! Friendstream would be nice for Facebook contact pics.)
- AOSP lockscreen with Caller ID and Music Controls.
- No Volume screen wake.
- Long-press volume to skip songs would be nice.
I think that's it. I'll add some later if I can think of some, but these are the most important to me really. I have tried several ROMs and read the threads on most of the other candidates and I can't find one that really suits me.
If no one can point me in the direction of such a ROM, I have decided to develop my own. I have little Linux/Android experience. I am still S-ON so I have become comfortable with adb. I have a very basic understanding of how ROMs and kernel interact to make our phone work. I have some experience with C++ and VB. All I really need is some guidance.
Can I just re-flash the Global RUU and then de-Sense and de-bloat my phone by removing apks through adb? Then, if I can find Sense-compatible .zips that give me the volume controls I need, they should work right? Is that the same for compatible themes?
What gets broken when you remove Rosie? I can leave Rosie alone if it breaks the camera and such. I can just remove the unnecessary Sense widgets instead.
Is it possible to have the same lockscreen from CM10 on a de-Sensed ROM and have it fully-functional?
I have been thinking about this for a while and I have a ton of questions. If anyone is willing to help in anyway, please let me know. I love the phone, but I am dying for a ROM that really suits my needs.
Look up Adrenaline by Neo. There is a link near the end of the comments
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I don't think Adrenaline is based off of the newest RUU yet. I also don't want the 5-pt lockscreen if I can't customize it easily. Is there a way to put the regular lockscreen back?
Neo has some pretty sick ROMs. I was running his CM9 until i found out that bluetooth calls don't work.
blazin_phattys said:
I don't think Adrenaline is based off of the newest RUU yet. I also don't want the 5-pt lockscreen if I can't customize it easily. Is there a way to put the regular lockscreen back?
Neo has some pretty sick ROMs. I was running his CM9 until i found out that bluetooth calls don't work.
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Ahh, sorry. I didn't notice the note about global. Ineffabilis is based off of global, has a desense option while flashing, and has an option for AOSP lock screen. I've heard good things about it, but haven't run it myself.
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I run Ineff Deus v1.2 (global) de-sensed as my daily driver. I use a combination of Nova Prime and WidgetLocker. I believe the AOSP lockscreen is set up the way you're looking for. I know there's an option to bypass the lockscreen for incoming calls. There are a ton of options thru the Aroma installer and more in the MikTweaks menu to customize your setup.
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Neomax by Neo is pretty close to what you described, themed to look like AOSP, has Sense camera but rest stripped.
It hasn't been updated to be based on global, but you can still run neomax on top of global firmware and benefit from radio improvements. I ran Neomax for two months before switching to CM9 RAGE... CM 10 is still in alpha mode and may be a while in getting to usable state on Rezound.
The good news is that apps like Nova Launcher, SwiftKey and the XDA Google Now for ICS port give you early access to Jellybean features.
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