I am running a ROM on my EVO 4g with pieces of sense 3.0 and so many ways to reach frequent apps ... dam overkill
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This is the pull down notification bar ... i liked it better with quick power control widgets on the top, HTC should of thought about implementing that... and maybe have the quick setting tab be favorite apps
here is another way of reaching frequent apps .. holding down home button... can be accessed from anywhere just like above method ... two things doing the same thing now.
And here is the application button which takes u to another screen (apps,frequent,downloads) with the star being frequent instead of favorites ...
How many ways do we need to reach frequent apps ... they def should of made one of them pull up favorite apps that could of been customized
If i am missing something .. please correct me .. who knows if this will change on the day of release but this is overkill to me in which they could of implemented more useful features ...
sorry for the rant .. just had to get that off my chest .. i feel better now .. how do we get HTC to read this ...LMAO
Yup, too much nonsense in Sense lol. AOSP is far cleaner and thus faster as well.
How did you change the "Sprint" name?
Yeah Im wayyyy too used to the power control widgets in the pull down. Gonna cross fingers they can get implemented. though I think itll be tough with the spot already taken up...
You realize other than the flashlight, all of the power widgets functionality is in the quick settings tab of the pull down. I don't really use the recent apps function but I'm not used to it being there. I ran a desire hd ROM before but ditches because of the lack of 4G. So its only been about 2 or 3 weeks that I'm rocking a sense 2.1 or 3 ROM. I'm going to live with it for a few months before I deem it redundant. If anything, I'd leave the recent apps in the pull down in place and replace the holding of the home key for running apps only. Or the home key for webos like running apps preview. I know there is an app that does that already but in my opinion its very clunky.
I like the multiple options. I use the pull down recent Apps. My girl uses the home key press. I have liking the second tab with power controls.
DeathBySnuggles said:
You realize other than the flashlight, all of the power widgets functionality is in the quick settings tab of the pull down. I don't really use the recent apps function but I'm not used to it being there. I ran a desire hd ROM before but ditches because of the lack of 4G. So its only been about 2 or 3 weeks that I'm rocking a sense 2.1 or 3 ROM. I'm going to live with it for a few months before I deem it redundant. If anything, I'd leave the recent apps in the pull down in place and replace the holding of the home key for running apps only. Or the home key for webos like running apps preview. I know there is an app that does that already but in my opinion its very clunky.
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haha nope didnt know that. my evo has been on cruise control for awhile n hadnt messed with the 3.0 roms yet. lol
itouch24 said:
i am running a rom on my evo 4g with pieces of sense 3.0 and so many ways to reach frequent apps ... Dam overkill
here is another way of reaching frequent apps .. Holding down home button... Can be accessed from anywhere just like above method ... Two things doing the same thing now.
How many ways do we need to reach frequent apps ... They def should of made one of them pull up favorite apps that could of been customized
if i am missing something .. Please correct me .. Who knows if this will change on the day of release but this is overkill to me in which they could of implemented more useful features ...
Sorry for the rant .. Just had to get that off my chest .. I feel better now .. How do we get htc to read this ...lmao
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there is more than one way to skin a cat.
I agree aosp is much cleaner but htc is just trying to be more idiot proof
j2themax said:
there is more than one way to skin a cat.
I agree aosp is much cleaner but htc is just trying to be more idiot proof
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You calling me an idiot?
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Just went to three forums and found this exact post in all three.
Since you just copy and paste each one I would have to call this spam
http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-3d/92842-evo-3d-new-sense-overkill-frequent.html
http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-3d/353127-evo-3d-new-sense-overkill-frequent.html
lafester said:
Just went to three forums and found this exact post in all three.
Since you just copy and paste each one I would have to call this spam
http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-3d/92842-evo-3d-new-sense-overkill-frequent.html
http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-3d/353127-evo-3d-new-sense-overkill-frequent.html
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Oh no. Internet police is here. Officer I swear she said she was 18!!
sgt. slaughter said:
haha nope didnt know that. my evo has been on cruise control for awhile n hadnt messed with the 3.0 roms yet. lol
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I'm running virus kingdom 1.3 right now and so far so good. My phone is very fussy so I'm surprised its working so well thus far. But if you want to try a sure fire 2.1 ROM (which has the recent apps pull down) I highly recommend mikg 1.03. That is the perfect compromise of new and exciting without issues and degraded performance. No special partitioning required either. Just flash and play.
lafester said:
Just went to three forums and found this exact post in all three.
Since you just copy and paste each one I would have to call this spam
http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-3d/92842-evo-3d-new-sense-overkill-frequent.html
http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-3d/353127-evo-3d-new-sense-overkill-frequent.html
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Don't forget this one!
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=220881
banzaiwolfe said:
Don't forget this one!
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=220881
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HaHa I guess there are allot of geeks like me registered at multiple sites
iTouch24 said:
HaHa I guess there are allot of geeks like me registered at multiple sites
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Come on man, they are all the exact same post. You posted them all.
That said, I'm all for extra choices.
I really like the recent apps up there, its quicker when you are using your touchscreen to just flick it down and hit the app for me (im running synergy on my evo w/ it)
I've personally been using Task Switcher by Shisho since I got the evo.
A short press on the home button brings up your choice of running apps - or, if you enable it, recent apps as well.
The list is MUCH larger than the standard 6, and a quick second press drops you back to the home screen.
You can map a long press of the search button to it as well, but I never have. It's FAR more useful than the long home press, and the recent (but closed) apps list is great for pulling up something you've accidentally backed out of, even if you have half a billion other programs running.
That said, it does have its limits - the recently used apps do drop off after a while. I haven't figured out its method of dropping them *shrug*
This program has proven to be invaluable with the Sense 3.0 stability issues on the Evo.
It lets you select your home screen as well (press menu to reset it) - so switching between launchers takes mere moments, and can be accessed with only 5 presses from any app - one on home to bring up Task Switcher, one on menu, one to select the home screen, one to set it, and home again to launch it.
Go launcher served as a GREAT backup when Sense 3 failed me... but even going to Go Launcher was unnecessary 99% of the time - because of the recent/running app list in Task Switcher....
iTouch24 said:
HaHa I guess there are allot of geeks like me registered at multiple sites
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whats with the copypasta man?
rockypr said:
How did you change the "Sprint" name?
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There's an app for that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=960099
I did mine's differently, but I forgot how because it was a long time ago. I downloaded something called CDMA Tools, or something, and did everything on my PC. Therefore, I can't verify that the app works, but I've read positive feedback about it.
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whats with the copypasta man?
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who cares .. u make it sound like i copied and pasted the same thread all over xda ...
there are some people that are just on xda and some people that are just on android central, etc ..
was just trying to get a conversation going ... it was a rainy boring day yesterday
not everyone is registered at all the same sites ...
i didnt know ...
xda
androidcentral
androidforums
sprintusers
were all the same site ...
but for those that just need something to complain about .. i am sorry that it bothers you ...
hopefully we can drop it and just have a friendly conversation going forward about the EVO and its new sense
nothing good comes out about complaining about things .. nothing can be changed now
this message is not just to you ... it was to all the people who i got upset from posting same thing in multiple sites ...
please lets move forward
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Didn't get the chance to install 2.1 myself, but view a few few reviews on here and YouTube, not sure i would want 2.1 if it was the same spec released tomorrow.
Why only 24 icons a page now and not 32?
Knowlonger 1 wallpaper per room
Can knowlonger delete unwanted rooms
Never disliked the old keyboard that much and now no arrow keys
With a 2.1 update i was hoping for (as i never had a problem with 1.6)
Open home page in portrate
Positive
Bookmark thumbnails in browser!
Anyone go any major positive/negative to report
Maybe Dell will read this before release and take note if there are enough comments one way or the other!! Then they might not!!
I was also hoping for a portrait homescreen and a more interesting homescreen something like the sence from htc...and maby a portrait program menu when opening it directly from the homescreen!
Maby someone of the rom devs here will be able to create a 2.2 rom with htc sence on it than it would be perfect for me
To be fair, this is a leaked Beta version. I'm sure I hope they have quite a bit more to add
Like FFC support in the camera app (works in fring).
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checkbox111 said:
Didn't get the chance to install 2.1 myself, but view a few few reviews on here and YouTube, not sure i would want 2.1 if it was the same spec released tomorrow.
Why only 24 icons a page now and not 32?
Knowlonger 1 wallpaper per room
Can knowlonger delete unwanted rooms
Never disliked the old keyboard that much and now no arrow keys
With a 2.1 update i was hoping for (as i never had a problem with 1.6)
Open home page in portrate
Positive
Bookmark thumbnails in browser!
Anyone go any major positive/negative to report
Maybe Dell will read this before release and take note if there are enough comments one way or the other!! Then they might not!!
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I did a crappy review on my site (in sig, not the food one lol) if you want to check it out.
I like the new keyboard, the old keyboard was a pain with the number pad making everything squished to the left. BUT a left and right arrow key would be nice for sure (since no trackball).
As for all the other bad things you mentioned, easy fix is download ADW Launcher from the Market and then set it as default for when you hit the home button and then go into ADW Settings and change the rows and columns to 6 and you'll have all the space you ever needed on your home screen plus portrait rotation
@jmhalder
Front facing camera would be nice but how about zoom option lol Just want the Android 2.2 camera app from my Nexus... sigh
Now if only someone would make an AOSP Android 2.2 build for the Dell, I'm be in love with this phone....
I did a crappy review on my site
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Not so crappy, one of the best imho. It is great to hear from an informed enthusiast rather than just an opinionated commentator.
Not too sure about the intruding background music. Personally I found it distracting (that's a euphemism for annoying btw) to the extent that I stepped through the review in the rush to switch it off.
But that is just me, no doubt you gets loads of compliments asking for it to be turned up.
I like the scope of your site too and shall check in regularly.
Just to make sure I'm not missing anything. The Dell Facebook widget is NOT in the 2.1 update? Just did it and don't see it in the listing. Only the stock Android Facebook widget... Ohwell... Liked the Dell one... Any APK's floating around..? Also, anyone know if the HTC keyboard works with it..?
HTC keyboard is a no go... Crashes on launch... sigh...
i hope theres more to add to this in the final release!!!
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Just to make sure I'm not missing anything. The Dell Facebook widget is NOT in the 2.1 update? Just did it and don't see it in the listing. Only the stock Android Facebook widget... Ohwell... Liked the Dell one... Any APK's floating around..? Also, anyone know if the HTC keyboard works with it..?
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To be honest Id assume that itll be in the final release (remember this is a beta release) because there is also no facebook integration for your contacts built in like there is in 1.6 so Im guessing all the Facebook stuff is missing.
You can download Facebook fkr Android and it has its own widget.
HTC's keyboard would be a nice addition...
There is the option for facebook integration in the accounts section, but once you enter you credentials it disappears.
So I would expect it in thefinal
PS the only negative I have (over 1.6, as I would also prefer portrait-especially because all apps default to portrait and im sick of flipping the phone to keep it in landscape) is that I cannot see all the apps in the market, annoying but I can live with it....just
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rebski said:
Not so crappy, one of the best imho. It is great to hear from an informed enthusiast rather than just an opinionated commentator.
Not too sure about the intruding background music. Personally I found it distracting (that's a euphemism for annoying btw) to the extent that I stepped through the review in the rush to switch it off.
But that is just me, no doubt you gets loads of compliments asking for it to be turned up.
I like the scope of your site too and shall check in regularly.
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Really?! Thanks I truly appreciate it. And Im glad you like my little site too. (I didnt mean to come off as promoting myself by the way, hope I didnt).
Ha, is it loud? I thought I had made it softer in the video, maybe I didnt lol. Ill tone it down a bit for the next one, appreciate the honest feedback.
Fazziebear said:
There is the option for facebook integration in the accounts section, but once you enter you credentials it disappears.
So I would expect it in thefinal
PS the only negative I have (over 1.6, as I would also prefer portrait-especially because all apps default to portrait and im sick of flipping the phone to keep it in landscape) is that I cannot see all the apps in the market, annoying but I can live with it....just
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Ya true.
As for your negative, have you tried ADW Launcher from the market, itll get you that rotation on the homescreen then once your in portrait just go to settings and turn off auto rotate and it should stay portrait.
As for the market issues, Google 'Market Enabler.apk' and install it. It lets you mimic different carriers etc so you can see more of the market. You just have to experiment with the settings till you get one you like.
Hope that helps you for now.
I can't see a number of apps including some that I bought also.
MyPlayer(free) has disappeared and logmein ignition(not free) has disappeared.
Excellent i'll give those tips ago
Update: the marketenabler worked great. Many thanks
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dcogen said:
I did a crappy review on my site (in sig, not the food one lol) if you want to check it out.
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Yeah seen that already, that was one of those reviews i saw that made me think i'm glad i didn't jump on the 2.1 bandwagon
rebski said:
Not so crappy, one of the best imho. It is great to hear from an informed enthusiast rather than just an opinionated commentator.
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Fazziebear said:
Excellent i'll give those tips ago
Update: the marketenabler worked great. Many thanks
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can I ask how you got the market enabler to work and with what settings ??
and if you are in the UK
Cheers
Dave
dcogen said:
I did a crappy review on my site
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Actually, not crappy at all, excellent in fact. Thanks for taking the time to put it together.
I put the phone to German settings. Chosen because its in Europe. When I set the settings back to stock the market still works so i'm guessing the restore doesn't work. But no probs so far
The enabler can be found.......
http://code.google.com/p/market-enabler/downloads/detail?name=MarketEnabler_v3.0.8.apk&can=1&q=
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Possibly a dumb question but if I customize my homescreens with adw launcher and other things (going to try for a "hubs" look) when ICS update comes around will that ruin all the customizations? It will be a decent amount of work to get the customization done so would hate to do it and then have to redo it all in a weeks time.
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Possibly a dumb question but if I customize my homescreens with adw launcher and other things (going to try for a "hubs" look) when ICS update comes around will that ruin all the customizations? It will be a decent amount of work to get the customization done so would hate to do it and then have to redo it all in a weeks time.
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yes, more than likely it will erase all of that..sorry...but ICS own launcher n skin is better anyways so you can try to customize that. plus I heard something along the lines of Google making the ICS launcher n homescreen mandatory or something like that. not sure of the details. maybe that only goes for manufacturers n other companies so they don't put their own skin on top of ICS and slow it down. they said they will be some kind of customization option though. not exactly sure what it is though.
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Possibly a dumb question but if I customize my homescreens with adw launcher and other things (going to try for a "hubs" look) when ICS update comes around will that ruin all the customizations? It will be a decent amount of work to get the customization done so would hate to do it and then have to redo it all in a weeks time.
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Alright thanks. I kind of figured it would work like that. Glad I decided to check!
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One of these things is not like the other...
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Not sure I follow. Are you saying my thread title doesn't reflect my question?
edit. Lol never mind see the sticky now. Any way I can change where this is posted?
IMO, a General should not be demoted to a Hack, he covers more ground whereas a tinkerer is more specialized. But there is indeed a Q & A section, and there's also a Dev Section so why is hacking called General?
the update can clear your settings but adw has an option for backing up settings.
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the update can clear your settings but adw has an option for backing up settings.
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hmmmm, well think I will wait for the update either way just in case.
adw can back up settings, but last i checked, it can't backup your homescreen configuration.
but it's just going to depend on if the ICS update needs a data wipe, if it can be flashed on top of HC, then you should be fine, otherwise, you'll just need to reinstall adw and reconfigure it.
for the comment regarding the launcher being a necessary requirement for 4.x it's not accurate, google requires that OEM's include the stock "halo (holo?)" theme in the OS to be allowed access to gaaps/market, but it basically means OEM's can still **** up the OS however they want so long as unskinned apps default to the stock theme.
so people who are expecting this to help OEM's update their **** faster, it's not going to do anything at all for anyone really, aside from making apps that don't have their own chrome/framework/skin look like stock ICS apps.
ADW does backup home configuration including icons and arrangement.
I just bought ADW EX so I hope it wasnt a waste of time and money as I absolutely love it.
demandarin said:
... plus I heard something along the lines of Google making the ICS launcher n homescreen mandatory or something like that. not sure of the details. maybe that only goes for manufacturers n other companies so they don't put their own skin on top of ICS and slow it down. .
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I was hoping this was a true statement. Manufacturer skins/themes turn me off big time. It feels like heavy bloatware.
adiliyo said:
adw can back up settings, but last i checked, it can't backup your homescreen configuration.
but it's just going to depend on if the ICS update needs a data wipe, if it can be flashed on top of HC, then you should be fine, otherwise, you'll just need to reinstall adw and reconfigure it.
for the comment regarding the launcher being a necessary requirement for 4.x it's not accurate, google requires that OEM's include the stock "halo (holo?)" theme in the OS to be allowed access to gaaps/market, but it basically means OEM's can still **** up the OS however they want so long as unskinned apps default to the stock theme.
so people who are expecting this to help OEM's update their **** faster, it's not going to do anything at all for anyone really, aside from making apps that don't have their own chrome/framework/skin look like stock ICS apps.
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thanks for the clarification. that halo theme is what I really meant. I knew it was something..lol
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I was hoping this was a true statement. Manufacturer skins/themes turn me off big time. It feels like heavy bloatware.
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I believe this is what he is referring to.
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2012/01/holo-everywhere.html
Should let you revert back to Holo theme in most instances, and help to get a more uniformed look across differente devices from different manufacturer. This with the Disable App function should help the non-root user get closer to vanilla android. Good approach IMHO
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i stand corrected, i looked at it last night and it does look like it does it now.
it backs them up on /sdcard though, so i would move those files to your computer or microsd card before updating so that if anything gets wiped you don't lose them
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I believe this is what he is referring to.
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2012/01/holo-everywhere.html
Should let you revert back to Holo theme in most instances, and help to get a more uniformed look across differente devices from different manufacturer. This with the Disable App function should help the non-root user get closer to vanilla android. Good approach IMHO
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this is what i was referring to, but that does not effect the end user in any way, it's not a way for the user to choose the device theme, it introduces a default (holo) theme that developers can choose to force their apps to use (since it must be included in gaaps/market devices) and it seperates the skin/framework for OEM's to hopefully allow them to push updates quicker since they can work on their UI overlays outside of the OS itself. it also allows developers to let their app choose whatever is set as the default skin for any 4.x device, so if you have a TW or Sense device running 4.x the app can adapt to the framework for those overlays to provide the end user with a consistent UI experience if the developer chooses to do so.
however, as sense and TW dig deeper into the OS itself, this will still keep those OEM's from updating their devices even relatively quickly.
what android needs to do is sandbox the OEM overlays, and force them to release devices with vanilla android and then allow the user to install the OE skin if they choose to do so.
but being that android is made for manuf, and not end users, that's never going to happen.
That fancy Launcher TSF shell which we all got a preview of earlier in December has finally come out:
http://tinyurl.com/7owwsfo
Any body take the plunge and drop 17 bucks on it yet?
I am considering doing it cause it looks amazing and I'm sure it'd run awesome on our GSIIs.
Belongs in the apps section.
Also I rather not spend $17 for something that might just kill my battery.
LiLChris06 said:
Belongs in the apps section.
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You could have reported the post so I could have seen it and gotten to it faster. Geeeeeeeez
johosophat said:
that fancy launcher tsf shell which we all got a preview of earlier in december has finally come out:
http://tinyurl.com/7owwsfo
any body take the plunge and drop 17 bucks on it yet?
I am considering doing it cause it looks amazing and i'm sure it'd run awesome on our gsiis.
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it does not work. I wasted my money on it and it force closes. Running stock.
Same RESULT on my tmo gsm tab
UPDATE
WELL ... JUST WANTED TO SAY AFTER 2 UPDATES IT NOW WORKS ON BOTH GSM TAB AND SGS2 BOTH TMO
VERY RESPONSIVE, FAST BUT LACKS SOME OF THE BELLS AND WHISTLES FROM THE VIDEO
Giving it a try. Pretty damn smooth; there are a few features that aren't up and working yet, but it's very impressive. The lack of instructions is causing a few headaches, however.
It can only get better with time. While it doesn't quite have the HD look that SPB Shell has, it seems smoother, and just more useful. SPB looks good, but it's like it never got past demo stage. High hopes for TSF.
EDIT: If you are trying to make it do the "snake" thing from a folder and are having problems, someone on another thread figured out that you have to have more than 7 apps in it to make it work. It's seriously cool once you figure that out. Makes for a nice favorite contacts app.
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Giving it a try. Pretty damn smooth; there are a few features that aren't up and working yet, but it's very impressive. The lack of instructions is causing a few headaches, however.
It can only get better with time. While it doesn't quite have the HD look that SPB Shell has, it seems smoother, and just more useful. SPB looks good, but it's like it never got past demo stage. High hopes for TSF.
EDIT: If you are trying to make it do the "snake" thing from a folder and are having problems, someone on another thread figured out that you have to have more than 7 apps in it to make it work. It's seriously cool once you figure that out. Makes for a nice favorite contacts app.
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How much memory does it use?
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This is pretty amazing!!! I'm going to wait a little bit longer then buy it! I have to say, if it isn't to much of a batter drain, then I could see this being a pretty nice launcher.
I actually set my "SetCPU" to 800 max, and everything ran SMOOTHLY!! no problems at all! I don't think this uses much more then 200 Mhz, because after fussing around for almost 15 minutes on it, I have CPU Spy saying 200 Mhz was being used for 9 minutes. So . . .
(It might be using the GPU tho, in which case I don't know how to check that.)
Looks interesting. Anyone run into any type of ROM specific issues yet?
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How much memory does it use?
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Looking at 5.48MB.
Still liking it; it's got lots of potential. I'm really digging the snake function of the folders. Load the folder up with apps, when you want one, just drag it out and tap it. I'm getting a list of tweaks it needs for the developer, like the snake needs to collapse after you use an app in it, stuff like that. Let's see how things go. I still find myself trying to swipe to move to the next screen, but you can't enable that and keep the core function of grabbing and manipulating multiple apps on a screen. I'm going to use this for a few weeks and see if I have the urge to return to a standard launcher.
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Looks interesting. Anyone run into any type of ROM specific issues yet?
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No ROM specific issues just yet. The video that shows off the launcher seems to be on a phone with MIUI, I think that they would be well suited for each other.
The favorite contacts folder I made works pretty cool; drag the contacts out, tap on one, and it gives you the quick info popup for it. The demo in the video looks different because it's MIUI.
The snake thing only works if you have at least seven items in your folder, and the folder won't hold more than twelve items, so some people might end up with multiple contact folders, like friends, family, work.
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I look forward to your review. I'm tempted to pull the trigger, but I've paid for way too many apps that I thought would be cool and useful that I used once and never again.
I got it, but I'm not pleased with it. It's kind of a pain to get to your apps.
Watched the video, read the reviews - even when it's done, it seems like they missed out on an essential factor - it's supposed to be a launcher. And it looks like they layered too much candy on that basic function for it to be usable as a daily driver.
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Watched the video, read the reviews - even when it's done, it seems like they missed out on an essential factor - it's supposed to be a launcher. And it looks like they layered too much candy on that basic function for it to be usable as a daily driver.
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Not sure why you think it's not a launcher. Instead of launching the app drawer like stock/LP/ADW/ect, the app drawer is the first homepage. The MIUI launcher doesn't have a standard app drawer either. And as far as launching the phone/contacts/messaging/ect, they are located on the left side pop-up bar. Granted, it feels different when you start using it, but I'm driving with it just fine. There are some bugs in it that would keep me from keeping it if they don't get addressed, but they seem to be doing updates pretty often and I'm hopeful it will continue to improve.
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Watched the video, read the reviews - even when it's done, it seems like they missed out on an essential factor - it's supposed to be a launcher. And it looks like they layered too much candy on that basic function for it to be usable as a daily driver.
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This. It just isn't comfortable to use. I'm still using it, hopefully it gets better.
SmittyRN said:
Not sure why you think it's not a launcher. Instead of launching the app drawer like stock/LP/ADW/ect, the app drawer is the first homepage. The MIUI launcher doesn't have a standard app drawer either. And as far as launching the phone/contacts/messaging/ect, they are located on the left side pop-up bar. Granted, it feels different when you start using it, but I'm driving with it just fine. There are some bugs in it that would keep me from keeping it if they don't get addressed, but they seem to be doing updates pretty often and I'm hopeful it will continue to improve.
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I didn't say it isn't a launcher, I said that it doesn't seem to function well as a launcher. If it's working for you, I'm glad - and I'll continue to watch and see if they live up to the promises made in the demo. It may well be as you say that I'd just have to get used to it - which I've done before, and will again, when I think the learning is worth it. Although I do like a clean home screen (yes, I know I could do it that way, but that defeats their design).
I've been playing with it and I think it's cool. There is a learning curve and it's not perfect but there are some nice features in it. I stopped using it though as soon as I discovered one feature it lacked that was a must have for me. scrollable widgets. They dont seem to work
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I've been playing with it and I think it's cool. There is a learning curve and it's not perfect but there are some nice features in it. I stopped using it though as soon as I discovered one feature it lacked that was a must have for me. scrollable widgets. They dont seem to work
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Ok, good chance to ask - which scrollable widgets are a must have? I like to keep my home screens clean, and watch battery drain (too) obsessively, so the only widgets I use are Simi Clock (covers clock, weather, and launching apps), 3G Watchdog, and music (PlayerPro and Subsonic). What am I missing?
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Ok, good chance to ask - which scrollable widgets are a must have? I like to keep my home screens clean, and watch battery drain (too) obsessively, so the only widgets I use are Simi Clock (covers clock, weather, and launching apps), 3G Watchdog, and music (PlayerPro and Subsonic). What am I missing?
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Well I did say for me they are a must have I use Android Pro widgets, I use about 3 of them(at least scrolling ones) all on their own home screens. I have one that loads twitter and FB updates, another that loads my agenda and one for my text messages. Then a full screen music widget(poweramp) on another screen and a full screen weather widget(fancy widget). I'm not too obsessive over my battery because I ALWAYS either have a spare charger or an extra oem battery (or both) with me
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Well I did say for me they are a must have I use Android Pro widgets, I use about 3 of them(at least scrolling ones) all on their own home screens. I have one that loads twitter and FB updates, another that loads my agenda and one for my text messages. Then a full screen music widget(poweramp) on another screen and a full screen weather widget(fancy widget). I'm not too obsessive over my battery because I ALWAYS either have a spare charger or an extra oem battery (or both) with me
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Thanks - I can see the use if I were a more connected person, but I'm not that big on Twitter or Facebook, full screen weather seems excessive (I look out the window , and tapping the weather icon on Simi Clock takes me to Weatherbug), don't text much (and get notifications for that), and my calendar is a tap away... I'm really never that far from a charger, but I like not having to plug in from the time I get up till I dock when I go to bed. If I were out more, I might need it, but I tend to do the home-work-home thing most of the time.
I picked this up. I like it, but some functionality is missing. I'm not talking about things they show in the video that you would have to figure out on your own, I'm talking about buttons that are available to use, but if you try to use it, it says the feature isn't enabled yet. That's kind of annoying. No need to have the button there if you don't have the functionality in.
Battery in my opinion definitely is affected. With my current build below, I was getting about 1% loss per hour. With this launcher it's approaching close to 3% per hour. I don't know why as it's not like my wakelocks are increasing.
So, if you have ever tried s voice, you probably understand my frustration with it. I much prefer googles own voice search. Is there anyway to map the s voice double click home button to the google voice search instead? I miss my search key.
looks like for now...You just have to either use the widget...or long press the menu button.
BTW...since i don't use S Voice...disabling the double tap cause no lag when hitting home now. B-)
SiNJiN76 said:
looks like for now...You just have to either use the widget...or long press the menu button.
BTW...since i don't use S Voice...disabling the double tap cause no lag when hitting home now. B-)
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long press menu does something? doesnt that bring up the keyboard? it did on my old phone. I would try now, but i need to leave it activated on my brothers line till tomorrow in order to get my rebate.
Long press menu brings up recents
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Yup. that's what it did on my nexus one. but in the s3...it brings up the search screen. doesn't do anything while in an app tho.
SiNJiN76 said:
Yup. that's what it did on my nexus one. but in the s3...it brings up the search screen. doesn't do anything while in an app tho.
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Huh? Is it different between carriers? Long press menu is recents for me..
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SiNJiN76 said:
BTW...since i don't use S Voice...disabling the double tap cause no lag when hitting home now. B-)
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THANK YOU FOR THAT
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jkxklutz said:
Huh? Is it different between carriers? Long press menu is recents for me..
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Recents is a long press Home here on Tmobile, which you seem to be on.
Google search widget?
Hey fellow galaxy s3 owners! Hoping you can help me find the google voice search widget to put on my home screen on the gs3. Neither me or my wife think S Voice works as good as Google Voice Search but I cannot find the widget on either of our phones. I know I can put the long search bar but I just wanted the mic button. Thanks for your help!
Forgot to mention both phones are using Go Launcher EX and are not rooted.
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Hey fellow galaxy s3 owners! Hoping you can help me find the google voice search widget to put on my home screen on the gs3. Neither me or my wife think S Voice works as good as Google Voice Search but I cannot find the widget on either of our phones. I know I can put the long search bar but I just wanted the mic button. Thanks for your help!
Forgot to mention both phones are using Go Launcher EX and are not rooted.
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It should be Google search in widgets
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I'm using apex launcher for personal reasons but you can see below the google stock one for ICS
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I know about the search bar. What I am looking for is just the microphone widget by itself. I don't want the large search bar taking up that much room.
I kinda figured out a work around for just displaying the Microphone widget. Add the full length bar widget like in jgalan14's screenshot and then resize it down to a 1x1. Doesn't look great but at least the google voice search widget is on my screen for easy access without having that large bar.
Copy and pasted my post from another forum that was only about an hour ago..
I was bored and started playing with the google voice search to see what kind of quick answers it would give me at the top of google..to see if it could be a google now lite or something. It did alright.
Then I thought...hey why not give Svoice another shot?
I'll click search the web
umm...this looks odd...i'll click view desktop version
I guess this wouldn't be that bad....if i could actually zoom out and make the text smaller...which i can't do.
Holy ****. :bowrofl: I said the first time I used it there has to be some kind of settings error or something thats not allowing this thing to work. It couldn't tell me how tall Lebron James is, kept cutting me off, told me there was a network error after i asked it to turn wifi off. The first two times I asked it to turn wifi off, it asked me who i wanted to call. It sometimes missed or even added simple words I never even said (the, of, or etc) Couldn't understand basic words, made Corvette plural....If you click search the web even the google webpage is all fubar. All zoomed in and you can't really change it or make it look right. Basically looks like viewing google on a phone from 5 years ago. Not to mention sometimes the app becomes unresponsive to the voice command. I sat there and said my unlock command 30 diffrent times in every different tone and volume you could imagine until i finally just hit the button.
Holy hell this has to be the worst app ever made lol
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I know about the search bar. What I am looking for is just the microphone widget by itself. I don't want the large search bar taking up that much room.
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Maybe install Vlingo and use it's widget? I think it has a microphone widget.
I cannot remember if you can tell Vlingo to use Google search though.
^I find my own comments amusing because Vlingo made the S-Voice app.
That was hilarious JD!
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That was hilarious JD!
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this has to be the worst app i've ever used.
I've been playing with it the last few minutes sitting here wondering how in THEE HELLLLL did they get it to work so well on stage? And it wasn't *that* bad in the demo's...it passed the woodchuck test even.
I can confidently say this thing will give you an answer less than 5% of the time. I've gotten maybe 3 or 4 answers and when I do get an answer it gives me a huge long list that I have to scroll to the top to actually find the answer.
90% of the time if it acutally understands what you are saying it says I'm sorry I dont have the answer, would you like me to search the web?
It mishears you a lot too. Cuts you off every now and then. Seems you have to hit the button or say the wake command between every single question with the app open too.
I have asked it the most basic questions in the world for the last 10-15 minutes and the only answers I got were to- When did Mickey Mantle die and who is Michael Jackson, and what a stock is worth. Every time it finds an answer it takes 5-10 seconds to give me an answer, and thats on wifi.
Could answer me all sorts of common knowledge sports questions, music questions, questions about who owns a company or a team. Who makes the Corvette, when the first mustang was made, how tall Lebron James is (which was also demonstrated to work)
I almost refuse to believe the app is THIS bad. I've fiddled with settings and nothing has improved. Its almost as if they want you to click search the web every time so they get some kind of hits or credit or something. Its just baffling.
I completely agree that S Voice is as bad as on mine and my wife's phone as your experience jd. It is THAT bad. lol You have to just laugh about it. :laugh:
Install Nova launcher. You don't have to use the launcher, but it makes available shortcuts that you can use in any launcher.
Use the shortcut, "Nova Launcher" (available under "Widgets" in TW Launcher), and choose voice search.
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Install Nova launcher. You don't have to use the launcher, but it makes available shortcuts that you can use in any launcher.
Use the shortcut, "Nova Launcher" (available under "Widgets" in TW Launcher), and choose voice search.
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Thank you very much! Now I am trying to get it to work in Go Launcher. Having a little difficulty but the option is there. I can get the widget on the screen but it will not activate for some reason.
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Thank you very much! Now I am trying to get it to work in Go Launcher. Having a little difficulty but the option is there. I can get the widget on the screen but it will not activate for some reason.
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You can also try using the shortcut, "Activities," scroll down to "Voice Search," click that, then click, "RecognitionActivity." That should do the same thing.
Cognition One
The goal of this rom is to be clean, stable and smooth! I am not interested in overclocking or feature stuffing, if something looks useful to me, I will add it.
Version 0.6
Advanced Power Menu
Volume to Wake
Added Flashlight App
Added Calculator App
Version 0.5
Added Superuser (koush)
Updated su binary
Added ES File Explorer
Version 0.4
Switched to Linaro Toolchain for compiling the kernel
Linaro -o3 optimizations
Enabled Fast Charging
Fixed /system not being writable (for real this time)
Version 0.3
ADB always enabled
Increased sweep2wake timeout
Enabled USB OTG
Disabled USB OTG white list (allow more devices)
Updated defconfig (lots of kernel changes)
Version 0.2
Fixed /system not being writable
Fixed busybox not symlinking
Fixed kernel not flashing
Removed app/Watch.apk
Removed app/LMIRescue.apk
Removed app/LMIRescueIcon.apk
Removed app/LMIRescueSecurity.apk
Removed app/Magazines.apk (Play Magazines, get from market)
Removed app/Books.apk (Books, get from market)
Removed app/Music2.apk (Play Music, get from market)
Removed app/Videos.apk (Play Videos & TV, get from market)
Removed app/ChromeWithBrowser.apk (Chrome, get from market)
Removed lib/libchromeview.so (chrome support file)
Removed bootup sound
Shortened the bootup animation
All Apps updated
Version 0.1
Sweep2wake
Long press back for menu
Disabled persistent adb debug notification
Disabled persistent PowerSaver notification without hiding it in settings too
Disabled persistent IME Switcher notification
Enabled Secure Box and Block List in MMS app
Enabled GPU UI rendering
Initial Release:
Changed a lot of configuration to make it more like the AT&T version (/system/customize)
Rom based on RUU_M7_UL_JB_50_BrightstarUS_WWE_1.29.1540.3
Kernel based on m7ul-jb-crc-3.4.10-42e6c45
Kid Mode disabled
Power Saver notification disabled
Handset earpeice fixed (kernel)
Wifi throughput fixed (kernel)
Headset/Handset switching fixed (kernel)
FauxSound (kernel) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teamkang.fauxsound
Removed HtcSpeakNGF.apk (Not only a huge waste of space, it sucks)
Deodexed
Rooted
Probably some other little things I forgot
Kernel Source: https://github.com/designgears/m7_dev_kernel
Download: http://tinyw.in/EhqR
Mirrors: http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=22946563261203720
Come chat with us!
#Cognition on Freenode.net
Disclaimer: I cannot be held responsible for what you do to your phone. Please be aware of how to recover your phone if things do go wrong, this is not a support thread. If you don't like that, like me, like my rom, cool... gtfo.
Donations NOT accepted, I haz a day job!
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Pro Tips
Fix Bluetooth Range
Disable Wifi! This is a known HTC bug, and this is the current workaround.
How to enable "Press and hold back for menu"
Open settings > Display, gestures & buttons > Back button
How to enable Fast Charge (off by default)
Turn on:
echo 1 > /sys/kernel/fast_charge/force_fast_charge
Turn off:
echo 0 > /sys/kernel/fast_charge/force_fast_charge
How to fix data throttling (not related to rom)
1-Make a backup of your current build in cwm
2-Open root explorer and change r/o to r/w
3-Navigate to Data/System
4-Inside Data/System you will find a folder labeled Throttle
5-Long press Throttle folder and select permessions
6-Change permissions to Owner: read and execute only, everything els should be unchecked, when finished press ok and go back
7-Open Throttle folder and there should be two items in it if your on stock and three if your on Shevron Rom
8-Make copies of all items in throttle folder wether it be two or three and save them on your pc or a new folder on your sd..That way if something were to go wrong youd have your backup and copies of the files
9-Once you have made copies of the throttle folders contents delete them (wether it be two or three) from throttle folder
10-Back out of Data/System and change r/w back to r/o, exit root explorer and reboot
Cognition!! Can't wait to try it out, still remember my old Samsung Captivate days...
File is up! Ignore the reported file size on their site, not sure whats up with that. Its ~685MB.
zeezz said:
Cognition!! Can't wait to try it out, still remember my old Samsung Captivate days...
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Same here. I don't miss that phone though.
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Haha now the party has started
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File is up! Ignore the reported file size on their site, not sure whats up with that. Its ~685MB.
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Good morning
Great to see more ROM options coming to the AT&T One.
I have been following the CleanRom development and have a couple of suggestions for Cognition that scott had worked on.
Adding the long press back button for menu is a must have
The tether hack is a must (media Link HD won't work without it)
The Percent Battery Mod is very handy
The Ad Blocking HOST file is another must have
An advanced Power Menu is nice but not a problem if its not in their.
I would like to to see the tbalden sweep to wake and logo menu button built in @ some point
Looking forward to your progress with this project, and thanks for offering it here.
S.o.b I can't get any phone without dg being involved :thumbup:
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my thoughts after 2 hours of use
Overall it's pretty smooth but it did seem like the screen is a little less sensitive in some apps ( Amazon - Google music - Play store )
9 apps out of date on first play store run ...including play store it's self
Sign up for dropbox on install only nets you a 2 gb account not 25 like the international version
No file manager installed
the home and back buttons seem less sensitive than normal/stock AT&T
Car Icon in app tray - Good, it's not in the AT&T rom's
Hotspot works
LTE Works but the 4G icons are missing
Bluetooth works ... used two different devices no problem
GPS / Maps work fine.
I'll continue testing and keep you posted
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Same here. I don't miss that phone though.
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I loved that phone man, it was freaking indestructible, me and my room mate would toss our around the house with no worries. And since it was competing against the iPhone 4 for some of its life that was a great feature to win people over.
Also the battery clasp on the back was the most satisfying of any phone I've ever used.
But when it comes to performance I do love my new One!
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Thanks DG, I'll get to testing, this will be the first time using one of your ROMs since Perception for the Captivate.
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my thoughts after 2 hours of use
Overall it's pretty smooth but it did seem like the screen is a little less sensitive in some apps ( Amazon - Google music - Play store )
9 apps out of date on first play store run ...including play store it's self
Sign up for dropbox on install only nets you a 2 gb account not 25 like the international version
No file manager installed
the home and back buttons seem less sensitive than normal/stock AT&T
Car Icon in app tray - Good, it's not in the AT&T rom's
Hotspot works
LTE Works but the 4G icons are missing
Bluetooth works ... used two different devices no problem
GPS / Maps work fine.
I'll continue testing and keep you posted
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I didn't do app update yet because I may be ripping out anything available on the market, probably add some options in aroma for them.
I'll look into the dropbox thing, but I am pretty sure that is due to build.prop stuff
filemanagers galore on the market, again, probably something I will add to aroma
sensitivity should be up a bit in the next build, let know
the 4G/4G LTE icons are an AT&T thing, I prefer the ones in there now, much cleaner, again, maybe an aroma option later
clsA said:
Good morning
Great to see more ROM options coming to the AT&T One.
I have been following the CleanRom development and have a couple of suggestions for Cognition that scott had worked on.
Adding the long press back button for menu is a must have
The tether hack is a must (media Link HD won't work without it)
The Percent Battery Mod is very handy
The Ad Blocking HOST file is another must have
An advanced Power Menu is nice but not a problem if its not in their.
I would like to to see the tbalden sweep to wake and logo menu button built in @ some point
Looking forward to your progress with this project, and thanks for offering it here.
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I opted for logo2menu instead of long pressing back button, much cleaner.
I don't have the media link hd to test with, if anyone has one and can test, let me know
I will be adding aroma installer later and including options like percent battery and hosts file
Sweep2wake, logo2menu, logo2wake are all in the next version
Baby thus is a hot cake
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zeezz said:
Cognition!! Can't wait to try it out, still remember my old Samsung Captivate days...
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Same Here Glad I have the same phone as designgears
I have change my mind on logo2menu, I thought the htc logo was the button, but its a small space above it on the screen.
The reason I like a file manager pre installed is I keep a set of apps on the phone/sd and no way to install them without adding a google account and downloading one. Updating the stock apps is no big deal just kind of a courtesy I suppose. The 3 dot menu takes screen space is why i prefer the long press back.
+1 on the 4G/4G LTE icons are an AT&T thing, I prefer the ones in there now, much cleaner. Agree was just making the observation.
The screen and button sensitivity is high on my wish list. Seems I'm hitting the home and back buttons 3 and 4 times before they respond, never had that on the AT&T Roms.
Took some photos the camera seems normal ...not sure what the fix for it was suppose to do.
Play Music forced closed on the first start but worked fine after that.
4G LTE Speeds seem the same as they were on CleanRom/Stock
Wifi may actually be a little faster now.
It took several hours for the lock screen clock to show my actual city name and not just "My Location"
Couple of benchmarks the Stock One is the higher of the 2
LOL benchmarks
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DG you're back! You were the only dev I used back in the Captivate days. We need you to unlock the SGS4 buddy!
designgears said:
I have change my mind on logo2menu, I thought the htc logo was the button, but its a small space above it on the screen.
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Ya same here. I founds myself hitting it when hitting the sapace bar.
Maybe only logo to wake assuming it works in deepsleep as well.
Drew
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clsA said:
The reason I like a file manager pre installed is I keep a set of apps on the phone/sd and no way to install them without adding a google account and downloading one. Updating the stock apps is no big deal just kind of a courtesy I suppose. The 3 dot menu takes screen space is why i prefer the long press back.
+1 on the 4G/4G LTE icons are an AT&T thing, I prefer the ones in there now, much cleaner. Agree was just making the observation.
The screen and button sensitivity is high on my wish list. Seems I'm hitting the home and back buttons 3 and 4 times before they respond, never had that on the AT&T Roms.
Took some photos the camera seems normal ...not sure what the fix for it was suppose to do.
Play Music forced closed on the first start but worked fine after that.
4G LTE Speeds seem the same as they were on CleanRom/Stock
Wifi may actually be a little faster now.
It took several hours for the lock screen clock to show my actual city name and not just "My Location"
Couple of benchmarks the Stock One is the higher of the 2
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The benchmarks are mostly useless, scores on both fluctuate enough to call them equal imo.
Not sure whats with the "my location", I only saw it on first boot.
No FC on play music first run for me, might have been in the middle of an update.
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LOL benchmarks
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DG you're back! You were the only dev I used back in the Captivate days. We need you to unlock the SGS4 buddy!
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Heh, you'll have to send me an SGS4, I'm tapped out, bought the HTC One off contract
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Ya same here. I founds myself hitting it when hitting the sapace bar.
Maybe only logo to wake assuming it works in deepsleep as well.
Drew
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Same here, really annoying.
ADHDassassin said:
I loved that phone man, it was freaking indestructible, me and my room mate would toss our around the house with no worries. And since it was competing against the iPhone 4 for some of its life that was a great feature to win people over.
Also the battery clasp on the back was the most satisfying of any phone I've ever used.
But when it comes to performance I do love my new One!
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Thanks DG, I'll get to testing, this will be the first time using one of your ROMs since Perception for the Captivate.
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I agree with you there. That was the only Samsung I've ever owned that didn't fly apart when it hit the ground. The AT&T guys broke two before they figured that clasp out.
Cognition ROM seems smooth so far. Ran it most of last night and today.
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