Can I flash Ginger Blur using 2nd init?
I can't figure out how to acccess it.
Did you read the guide on how to flash gingerblur?
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2nd init is for roms which we don't have.
Gingerblur is a skin, all the instructions are in the gingerblur thread
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Sorry, I should have been more specific. In the 2nd init thread, edgan posted this:
Warning! This conflicts with Tenfar's ClockWorkMod(aka CWM) Recovery
If the phone is wall charging, you shut down the phone, and start it, it will boot CWM
To avoid this, open System Recovery and hit Charge Mode.
It may also conflict with other recovery tools, or other things that tweak the normal boot process.
I assumed this meant I couldn't use CWM anymore.
Sinful Animosity said:
Sorry, I should have been more specific. In the 2nd init thread, edgan posted this:
Warning! This conflicts with Tenfar's ClockWorkMod(aka CWM) Recovery
If the phone is wall charging, you shut down the phone, and start it, it will boot CWM
To avoid this, open System Recovery and hit Charge Mode.
It may also conflict with other recovery tools, or other things that tweak the normal boot process.
I assumed this meant I couldn't use CWM anymore.
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Its not really ready as there are no roms. For the end user, dont even bother with it yet
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We've tested and can confirm this bootstrap recovery is working. Thank you to bane449 for testing. The recovery is a straight APK pull from the Droid X2. Worked thanks to the similarities between devices.
Instructions and download:
http://briefmobile.com/motorola-photon-4g-root-custom-recovery-now-available
Looks successful to me: DroidX2 Recovery GFAN.COM V2.5.1.8
And it booted back into Android properly, even
So what will this allow me to do? What are its advantages? What are the risks?
sub2k1 said:
So what will this allow me to do? What are its advantages? What are the risks?
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CWM allows users to easily install unsigned update packages. This will open up the Photon to pseudo-ROMs, all sorts of modifications, and more.
Forgive my ignorance but what is a "pseudo-Rom"?
kennethpenn said:
CWM allows users to easily install unsigned update packages. This will open up the Photon to pseudo-ROMs, all sorts of modifications, and more.
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I know what ROM's are, never heard anyone say psuedo-ROM.
Lokifish Marz said:
Custom ROMs (if available for the Photon) like MIUI, CM7 etc...
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mikeyinid said:
I know what ROM's are, never heard anyone say psuedo-ROM.
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Psuedo meaning "not really" a ROM. A locked bootloader will prevent true custom ROMs, but P-ROMs will be possible.
P-ROMs are based off of stock files and modifications. They don't replace the kernel or modem.
Yup i installed this and rebooted into recovery mode. It worked just fine for me. What happens if Sprint releases an OTA update? Can i recover root access or downgrade with this? Sounds like I can't because I can't modify the kernel.
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I can't seem to get mine to reboot into CWM. I run the apk, hit install recovery, says installed sucessfully, hit recovery mode and it reboots back into system.
b-reezy said:
I can't seem to get mine to reboot into CWM. I run the apk, hit install recovery, says installed sucessfully, hit recovery mode and it reboots back into system.
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Make sure your device is plugged into the wall charger when you do Reboot Recovery. That's the only way it'll work since it's a bootstrap recovery.
kennethpenn said:
Make sure your device is plugged into the wall charger when you do Reboot Recovery. That's the only way it'll work since it's a bootstrap recovery.
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Can you explain why this is? I'm a little confused as to what makes a "bootstrap recovery" different from a regularly flashed "recovery.img".
brianez21 said:
Can you explain why this is? I'm a little confused as to what makes a "bootstrap recovery" different from a regularly flashed "recovery.img".
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Caveats:
This is not a *real* recovery. The way this recovery works is by hijacking portions of your boot process during system initialization and starting into recovery instead. So, if you hose your system *COMPLETELY* you will need to SBF. Specifically, if your logwrapper, logwrapper.bin, or hijack binary are missing from /system/bin, you will be screwed.
This is from koush himself concerning droid x/2 bootstrap. I would seriously wait til an sbf surfaces before flashing any of these "psuedo-ROMS" or even just deleting any system apk's. Just my opinion.
sub2k1 said:
Yup i installed this and rebooted into recovery mode. It worked just fine for me. What happens if Sprint releases an OTA update? Can i recover root access or downgrade with this? Sounds like I can't because I can't modify the kernel.
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Does the phone need to be rooted first in order to installl this recovery apk?
Is this "ClockworkMod" recovery, or something else? If it's CWM, what version?
So what specifically did this do to my phone? What files were modified to allow this to run at bootup? Anybody have any info on this (just in case I want to return my phone to stock.)
mediawiz said:
Is this "ClockworkMod" recovery, or something else? If it's CWM, what version?
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This is CWM bootstrap. Original one was on the Droid X, created by Koushik Dutta. Then it was ported to the Defy. Then to the Atrix. Next, the Droid X2. Now, the Photon 4G.
V2.5.1.8
Sbf is gonna be your friend when it comes to unrooting and restoring. It will pop up soon.
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So what specifically did this do to my phone? What files were modified to allow this to run at bootup? Anybody have any info on this (just in case I want to return my phone to stock.)
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Once I'm in CWM, is it safe to unplug the charger or does it need to be connected until I exit and reboot?
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Once I'm in CWM, is it safe to unplug the charger or does it need to be connected until I exit and reboot?
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You can unplug.
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Hey guys,
I need some help with this CWM. It is my first time using this phone.
Ok, I will go through all the things I have down so far.
I got the phone yesterday from AT&T (America) and immediately updated OTA to official firmware 4.5.91.
I then downloaded pudding for AT&T/android 2.3.4, downloaded the latest windows 7 drivers, and the latest RSD lite 5.3.1.
I used RSD to flash pudding onto the phone, but did not enable USB debugging, or the other option to allow non-android/certified installations (located at setting, applications...I think)
That resulted in a no OS found, error 1x000 on the phone, and an error in RSD. RSD said something around the likes of: error - could not switch...something the phone then gave me a list of options and went into fastboot protocol mode.
I thought to myself: "darn, I bricked my phone", but I saw that it went into fastboot mode. I did the fastboot cmd's from my computer to unlock the phone, which seemed successful (unlock on the top left corner), but after I did fastboot reboot, the phone was stuck in the dual core screen, with unlock on top left still.
I had to pull out the battery, but the phone then booted up normally.
Thinking that everything is now fine, and still forgetting to enable those setting in the phone, I booted the phone in fastboot protocol mode and installed ROMracers CWM.
However, I didn't use the second command to delete CWM before installing romracers. It installed fine though, from what I saw.
So I then try to go into the CWM by holding the power button and volume down, then scrolling down to recovery and hitting volume up.
Then the android guy and the triangle warning sign shows up. Great.
What did I do wrong? Everything seems to have worked so far. I am using the latest versions of everything.
I am following a tutorial video on youtube (two weeks old), and I am at work right now so I have not gotten to the part where he gets the same error on his demonstration phone; however, i saw that the guy downloaded a file explorer that can do a specific thing that other programs cannot, but it costs money. I didn't see any more.
What should I do?
Download and install a root file manager, and delete recovery-sh from /system/etc, then try again
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If you tap the bottom right corner of the screen you will get stock android recovery options.
If you flash the cwm of your choice and immediately boot into recovery after you flash it you should be able to get into ur custom recovery until you fully try to reboot again. I think..... its been a while since I was in that boat.
You soft bricked it, that happens if you unlock the bl after 2.3.4 is on the phone. Its common
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Thanks guys.
What program should I use to delete that file? Preferably a free one...why doesn't everyone else have to get an app to successfully install CWM?????
Also can I just install this even though my phone is already unlocked with pudding on it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138204
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Thanks guys.
What program should I use to delete that file? Preferably a free one...why doesn't everyone else have to get an app to successfully install CWM?????
Also can I just install this even though my phone is already unlocked with pudding on it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138204
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You can use es file explorer and use the root option in the preferences,
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I went through the same thing you did up until the ROM choice. Even the pulling of the battery. So I would say that is normal and you should not think the problem is there.
My Atrix came with the 2.3.4 update already installed and I did the pudding bit with RDS (which didn't give me root, I had to use the adb method). I flashed the Ninja Speed ROM (very happy with it) and I didn't have any problems.
Did you check with known issues of your ROM? Some require specific recovery apps.
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Javi97100 said:
You can use es file explorer and use the root option in the preferences,
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I downloaded the app, but the root feature only works on rooted ROMS/firmwares.
Seeing that I can not put any ROM's on my phone because CWM doesn't work, I am stuck...
Does this help at all...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1138204
dragon_76 said:
I went through the same thing you did up until the ROM choice. Even the pulling of the battery. So I would say that is normal and you should not think the problem is there.
My Atrix came with the 2.3.4 update already installed and I did the pudding bit with RDS (which didn't give me root, I had to use the adb method). I flashed the Ninja Speed ROM (very happy with it) and I didn't have any problems.
Did you check with known issues of your ROM? Some require specific recovery apps.
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Do you mean my CWM choice?
Most of the guides say that you should install CWM before installing ROMs.
They also say that the Rom's themselves root the device.
I do not know what to do...
Someone help me out
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Did you successfully root your device? If you did just download a terminal app and delete it through the command line. If you don't know how to do that we can help.
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Here's a link to help understand CWM: http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&drKey=1359&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.xda-developers.com%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D1214513&v=1&libid=1313371129935&out=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.addictivetips.com%2Fmobile%2Fwhat-is-clockworkmod-recovery-and-how-to-use-it-on-android-complete-guide%2F&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.xda-developers.com%2Fforumdisplay.php%3Ff%3D995&title=CM7%20PreBeta%232%20-%20xda-developers&txt=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.addictivetips.com%2Fmobile%2F...omplete-guide%2F&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13133710923571
As far as your recovery...sounds like you do not have the latest tenfar recovery or romracer recovery.
Tenfars : http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=641508&d=1309404399
Link to Romracers thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204500
Use RomRacers CWM.... much better... install via fastboot
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Sorry I saw you didn't root it. Do you have the Motorola RSD lite program for your computer? I would go into the firmware super thread and use RSD lite to get your phone back to square 1.
I used plain old CWM and I am more than happy sticking with mainstream recovery options.
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Sorry I saw you didn't root it. Do you have the Motorola RSD lite program for your computer? I would go into the firmware super thread and use RSD lite to get your phone back to square 1.
I used plain old CWM and I am more than happy sticking with mainstream recovery options.
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Do not use rsd to go back to square one!!!!
Your atrix has the retail ota on it, you WILL HARDBRICK if you flash using rsd. All you can do on 2.3.4 with rsd is flash pudding. Ifyour unlocked already, delete rsd!
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eurosport360 said:
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This should help you get back to romracer's recovery.
1) Download romracer's recovery for your AT&T phone from his recovery thread in the development section. Make sure you download the fastboot version, not the .zip version.
2) Connect your phone to your computer, and put it into fastboot
3) Open up a command prompt on your windows computer, and issue the following commmand:
fastboot erase recovery
moto-fastboot flash recovery recovery.img***
***you should replace recovery.img with whatever the recovery file you downloaded is called
4) Then boot into recovery and it should be the recovery that you chose in the first step. Hope this helps. If it does, make sure to thank joeavery2, as it is part of his complete wipe guide!
Well, I have tried to flash my phone with cm7 for the last 3 days and when I go to reboot recovery it freezes at the LG screen and I am forced to pull my battery possibly bricking my phone. Does anyone, I mean anyone have a safe sure way to flash my phone? And I have no pc access.....srry
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You need a computer. Either you didn't install recovery right. Or you're too impatient. Sometimes it hangs for a minute or so.
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omgpk said:
Well, I have tried to flash my phone with cm7 for the last 3 days and when I go to reboot recovery it freezes at the LG screen and I am forced to pull my battery possibly bricking my phone. Does anyone, I mean anyone have a safe sure way to flash my phone? And I have no pc access.....srry
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use terminal emulator and reflash your recovery with flash_image. you got a bad flash or a bad download of the recovery it sounds like.
there is a slim chance you aren't rooted correctly too, in which case it won't let you flash the recovery until you get permanent root. hopefully this isn't the case.
Pretty dumb question what's flash image n just incase how do I check. For a permanent root?
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Pretty dumb question what's flash image n just incase how do I check. For a permanent root?
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My advice is not to do ANYTHING until you are at a computer and have at least a half an hour available. This sounds like your first time flashing a ROM, take some time to look up key terms and such, your patience will reward you greatly. It is difficult to flash without a computer. Go to a friends house, a library, something and do it from there. To check if you have root, download the app root checker from the market. Then, after confirming root status, work from there and flash a new recovery by pushing it through ADB. Then, place the ROM on the sd card and flash it through your recovery, then Google Apps. If you follow everything I say, and it still doesn't work, come back to this thread or send me a PM and we will go from there. Look into guides before posting, not trying to be mean, but they are there for a reason.
so i flashed alien ROM and i started getting the com.android.phone unexpectedly closed blah blah....i have no access to any sort of web or internet...dont have file explorer and the cwm recovery app is not installed on here....
how do i get to recovery to attempt to reflash the ROM..
forgive me if this is in the wrong section...was not sure where to put it...hah and i dont have a phone right nowww
EDIT:
first attempt to fix this
1.using RSDlite and reflashing the sbf file fix this
now posting to hopefully find solutions and maybe help anyone else that may be in the same position...move if in the wrong section
EDIT2: attempt solved the problem....i am so satisfied haha
I did the same thing, using rsd lite fixed it for me.
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how did you flash alien rom without cwm? i dont think im understanding you.
With the boot strap recovery in the Dev section. It installs like a app, then you have to plug your phone into the charger and click recovery. Them your in clock work recovery.
Edit: you can use this with the boot loader locked to flash alien rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1199405
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Hi every 1 I did not search and don't know if any1 has posted this but on my Droidx2 I found that u do not need the use the bootstrap app to get into cwm recovery if ur phone is off and u plugg it into AC power and when the Motorola screen comes on unplug wait for a few seconds and plug AC power back in and it will boot into cwm recovery.
hope this helps if no1 new this lol
Yes pwr off & plug in = cwr as long as recovery mode is set. Rebooting no.
sen1366 said:
Hi every 1 I did not search and don't know if any1 has posted this but on my Droidx2 I found that u do not need the use the bootstrap app to get into cwm recovery if ur phone is off and u plugg it into AC power and when the Motorola screen comes on unplug wait for a few seconds and plug AC power back in and it will boot into cwm recovery.
hope this helps if no1 new this lol
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u don't need to unplug when u see the moto logo
if recovery mode is set all u need to do is
power off and plug in as said above
it does this because our recovery hijacks charge only mode, its the only way we can boot into BSR at this time
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sen1366 said:
Hi every 1 I did not search and don't know if any1 has posted this but on my Droidx2 I found that u do not need the use the bootstrap app to get into cwm recovery if ur phone is off and u plugg it into AC power and when the Motorola screen comes on unplug wait for a few seconds and plug AC power back in and it will boot into cwm recovery.
hope this helps if no1 new this lol
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Note: To clarify potential confusion... The BSR (Boot Strap Recovery) is NOT the same as CWM or CWMR (ClockWorkMod or ClockWorkModRecovery). PLEASE use the correct terms to avoid confusing people. Thank you! (Sorry, pet peeve. )
Ciao!
Okay, call me stupid here, but I thought CWM didn't work with the X2? I saw another post that explained how to do it, but it confused the living hell out of me!
What are the advantages of using CWM over BSR or am I reading something wrong here?
Thanks!
To me it (ours 2.5.1.8) is a hacked version never written to be installed by an apk. They all come from cwm. Once you are in cwr you can flash a different "cwr".zip.
Whether it successfully restores your bu ONLY Tenfar has hacked one that works for the (locked BL versions of the phones) Atrix, Photon and the Dx2 and they are all the same "cwr".zip!
Ibolski are you referring to my "wish" post?
It's CWM ported to our phones. Nothing more, nothing less. It's the same thing except we have to connect our phones to a wall charger. Otherwise, once you're in there, it's the same. Looks the same, the whole works. I have CWM on a couple devices here and there isn't any difference. Perhaps some of the options don't work for the X2 but, it's still the same thing. Can you tell I'm trying to tell you that it's the same?
Thanks for the responses. I'll stick with BSR then. It just seems people were so gung-ho about CWMR and I can't see why as there isn't a clear advantage to it over BSR.
I just had an idea. How about, instead of replacing charge mode, replace stock recovery and add an option in CWM to go into the stock recovery if needed. I can't do any of it but if a developer wants the challenge.
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skwoodwiva said:
To me it (ours 2.5.1.8) is a hacked version never written to be installed by an apk. They all come from cwm. Once you are in cwr you can flash a different "cwr".zip.
Whether it successfully restores your bu ONLY Tenfar has hacked one that works for the (locked BL versions of the phones) Atrix, Photon and the Dx2 and they are all the same "cwr".zip!
Ibolski are you referring to my "wish" post?
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There is no point in using a recovery from another phone that has less options then bsr. U may be able to flash stuff like bsr but if it wont restore system there is no point in even posting it other then creating confusion when people cant nandroid back after something goes wrong. Save yourself a lot of issues people use bsr and deal with pluging it in. Its functional where the alternatives are not.
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weldawadyathink said:
I just had an idea. How about, instead of replacing charge mode, replace stock recovery and add an option in CWM to go into the stock recovery if needed. I can't do any of it but if a developer wants the challenge.
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If this was possibke it would be done already
(Oops I ment) motcher41 .
You are missing my boat! The old Atrix, the Photon and the Dx2 bootstrap.apk are the same files/apks. The photon and ours have the same md5 sums.
skwoodwiva said:
iBolski.
You are missing my boat! The old Atrix, the Photon and the Dx2 bootstrap.apk are the same files/apks. The photon and ours have the same md5 sums.
I was only saying this to show YOU that these are the only ones that are alternatives yet they are the same.
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After all, everything everyone said...I'm jittering...need to flash something new...omg!!! Calling VZW now for warranty alternative...lol
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skwoodwiva said:
(Oops I ment) motcher41 .
You are missing my boat! The old Atrix, the Photon and the Dx2 bootstrap.apk are the same files/apks. The photon and ours have the same md5 sums.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22610152
That's the thread post I was refering to mainly
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ashclepdia said:
If this was possibke it would be done already
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Where does the rom manager one install?
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Where does the rom manager one install?
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If my memory serves me correctly... which it rarely does lol... because of the locked bootloader the install fails. Stock recovery is in the bootloader and we cannot modify the bootloader so we can't install recovery. Or does install but the bootloader overrides it and brings us to stock. Something like that.. vodka is making it all foggy lol I'm pretty sure that's close though
Actually i think somewhere in the system... preinstall I think. But our locked bootloader is why it does not work and cannot work. That I remember for sure
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weldawadyathink said:
Where does the rom manager one install?
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Where RM puts the recovery IDNK but it's not preinstall.
BTW
Tenfar was one smart cookie getting cwr working w/ one apk on 3 different phones.
Moltcher41
my post about a the the newer atrix recovery WAS in response to a MX2 Q about RECOVERY SAVING AS TARBALLS and they could not get a working recovery anyway.
Now some Mx2's can use ReRecovery manually as a work around.
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I have flashed lots of foreign recoveries - no problem as I never install them. They run in the same environment created by our bsr.
But using Rom Manager to install any recovery, other than the still non-functioning dx2, will require an sbf.
nope.
ashclepdia said:
u don't need to unplug when u see the moto logo
if recovery mode is set all u need to do is
power off and plug in as said above
it does this because our recovery hijacks charge only mode, its the only way we can boot into BSR at this time
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the power thing doesn't work..
cnsd said:
the power thing doesn't work..
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then you are doing it wrong
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