Guys,
Sometime this week gonna revert back to eclair via odin for a few reasons, boy I wish I knew this place existed before using samsung kies mini to update to 2.2.
I want to get back to 2.1 get it the way I want it, nandroid that puppy then move on to a new rom. I assume this will be my emergency fall back should things go wrong when the experimenting starts.
I originally went to 2.2, rooted, via titanium backup removed lots of bloatware, never really thinking to back things up in case or anything. Then found out today via MUCH reading (after my clockworkmod recovery install failed due to signature issue) and finally made my first post to find out that the 3e recovery would not allow me get the recovery console changed, etc etc. I hope that sounded right.
It will be a good learning experience so heck, why not.
My real question is this, since I am new to the rom scene, I would like some suggestions on first time rom users.
I am not a heavy user at all, I don't play games, I don't watch tv on the phone, I don't facebook or social network or anything along those lines. I don't use the GPS, etc etc. I don't use email on the phone, rather I go to my web mail instead.
All I do thus far is make calls, txt and go on the net to my usual places. For every app I had interest in on the market, I can just go to a website, basically checking weather and things like that.
Any suggestions on a good solid proven rom that does what I need but is bug free as possible. I don't think I am ready for cutting edge stuff yet.
I keep my phones simple, black background, no fancy animations of any kind. I like minimal and that also helps with battery life etc etc.
Please point me in the right direction. I checked the development section and there are so many to choose from, I am not sure really what I am reading about half the time. All this stuff with improved modems, kernels and such.
Just want to start the learning process and get my feet wet with a nice solid rom for me to explore and maybe start to take advantage of what the phone has to offer.
Thanks for listening to my verbal diarrhea btw
ps - most interesting is that I am a die hard linux user other than at work, all home pc's and laptops have it. I am pretty well versed in dealing with linux so I hope this will be easy to pick up over time.
edit I keeping reading that bionix 1.3.1 is pretty darn good and stable, what ya think? I see on their website there is touchwiz and gingerbread editions, not sure what the difference is?
bionix is a good start for a noob!
First of all, welcome. My laptop is running Debian and ODIN friggin hates it! I always have to go to my PC running XP to get ODIN to werk when I goof something up. Just a tip. As for a stable ROM Bionix is a great choice for a first flash. I personally have always been a big fan of MALICE. There are tons of options as you can see and everyone has their own opinion. Good luck!
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Thanks guys, after doing more reading last night, I think bionix will be my first go. Gonna odin back to 2.1 today at work, do the usual steps, nandriod it, then jump into bionix.
Despite being nervous, I hope it goes fine
kawika: yep, will doing everything at work on my xp machine
I've had good luck with Project V as well.
Check out ZenDroid too. Very slim and snappy. And ECOTOX's DragonMOD kernels are fantastic for battery life and performance too.
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i went with simply galaxy first and pretty much been with it since, iv tried loads of roms for a few days here and there but none of them seem to have the same feel that simply galaxy did as soon as i tried it
and touchwiz is like stock is and gingerbread is like ..... with the 3d app drawer, i prefer touchwiz but thats just me
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I would recommend Project V, its pretty fast and stable. And for the kernel, Super Dragonmodz if you want stability and performance, but OK battery life, and Bali's 1.8.6UV if you want battery life, but OK performance.
With regards to galaxy and project V, how is the stability, like I mention, I am a very light user and don't do much other than call, txt and use the web, maybe take a pic here and there or hd video but not often? I have been reading through different rom threads and all seem to have small issues, nothing serious but would like to install something that I don't have to uninstall right away.
I am back to 2.1, already rooted, bloatware removed and backup created and done via clockworkrecovery console.
So, I am just about ready to start playing but don't want to go to crazy trying different roms every few days.
Thanks for your comments BTW
The stability I've had on Project V is near perfect. No FCs, etc. I'd have to say of the ROMs I've used recently (including CM7 which is fun to play with and is pretty stable but just not my cup of tea right now) Project V has been the one that I like the best.
CM7 is fun being AOSP but having played with it, there are things that Samsung did that I actually prefer so Project V fits my needs well.
I installed bionix touchwiz just to get my feet wet since I really couldn't make up my mind. It's nice, fast, only problem is can't update superuser but not really a big deal.
I am sure shortly I'll move to one of the others you guys recommended.
Process was pretty straight forward so now all my nervousness is gone in terms new rom installs and such.
i was like that at first
was thinkin about it like a week then finally did it lol
Welcome to our world, prepare to become a flash addict. It really is simple and remember ODIN is your friend. Although its alot like your drunken friend that doesn't like to listen all the time and you gotta slap him around to get it to werk right sometimes and he's a mean drunk too not a funny sloppy drunk.
As to Project V - I've only been running it for a day now and everything runs fine for me no bugs as of yet. Only issue for me is I HATE THE PINK TMOBILE CRAP! boot and shutdown. It was the reason I first rooted and started playing with my phone, I had to get that off it. Now I've been so spoiled with bootanimation.zip's that I can't remember how to get rid of it, LOL. Oh well, as is life I just miss my XDA bootanimation. Glad you got it figured out!
Yep, it's just like modding my subaru, once it starts the mod bug never ends, hahahaha.
So played with bionix a bit and realized it really does look like froyo but with some nice added touches and runs nicely.
So, of course, as you said, I can see lots of flashing in the future eventhough, half the roms, I don't really understand all the tech stuff they put in the OP.
One more question, of course, using any future rom, is it always best to odin back to 2.1 before going with a new rom?
I see in other rom threads that ppl just flash over the current rom to a new one, sometimes with success, sometimes not. Some ppl clear all the caches as well? what's your guys take on this or is it best to use the directions that are normally clearly posted in the makers OP?
So again, can't thank you guys enough, I am sure I will chime in here and there with more questions, hopefully not ones due to mistakes LOL!
doesnt hurt to flash over the top, i havent had any problems
i started by going back to 2.1 but then odin had a spaz and froze on me for like 10 min so i unplugged and was hard bricked, had to take it to get fixed so now i dont odin unless i have to
if its going to freeze you want it to be at the beginning, can get it back from there it was doing the last thing for me when i hard bricked
i just..
factory reset/wipe data
clear cache
flash
advanced menu
wipe dalvik
fix permissions
go back
reboot, leave for 10 min
reboot again
some roms just say wipe then flash and reboot but i still go through all that just to make sure it goes ok, only takes like 20 sec more
kyle51 said:
doesnt hurt to flash over the top, i havent had any problems
i started by going back to 2.1 but then odin had a spaz and froze on me for like 10 min so i unplugged and was hard bricked, had to take it to get fixed so now i dont odin unless i have to
i just..
factory reset/wipe data
clear cache
flash
advanced menu
wipe dalvik
fix permissions
go back
reboot, leave for 10 min
reboot again
some roms just say wipe then flash and reboot but i still go through all that just to make sure it goes ok, only takes like 20 sec more
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I couldn't agree more with everything in this post. ODIN is rarely called upon for me unless I borked something up and need saving or if I flash 2.3 or higher. The only thing I do different is I always flash a ROM with my battery at 100% and in the advanced menu I also do the clear battery option. Also after initial reboot I let it sit 15min then turn off completely without doing any setup and then let it sit again for another 10min. Every time I flash a new ROM I don't use the phone for at least 30min just letting it sit and reconfigure. Good luck!
*TIP* If you find issues with data or reception try flashing different modems. These are easypeasy just flash in CwRecovery no need for any clearing of stats or any real precautions just flash the duck outta them! Kernels are the same way.
*Suggestion* Step up your car game bro! If you like the all-wheel scene you should really get into Audi quattro! (Shameless plug, I werk for Audi)
*My friends suck* At least ur attempting to read the OP's man. I've rooted a few of my friends phones and none of them will read the OP's. They all call me asking about crap for their phones like my opinion and I'm like "READ THE OP! I have no clue about ROMs/bugs for your phone, nor do I want to" they all say "frack that, I'm just gonna flash it" OMG! so kudos to you sir!
Thanks for the added info guys
kawika: there is no way I could ever afford an audi despite me loving some of the current models that are out, I would be more than happy to get as a gift anything with an RS in front of the number LOL.
Subaru's have a distinct sound and feel that can't be found in most other cars. The boxer flat fours are very cool engines, and the boxer "BURBLE" as we call it has such a distinct sound, it's hard not to know when one is passing you buy. Yeah sure, there are some heavily riced ones out there, but most of tastefully mod them.
I'm more old school about things, I try to read and learn before asking the questions.
I read so much the first day or so being on the board that I got a headache between all the roms and info on rooting, flashing, etc etc. The amount of info is just unreal, which is awesome!!!!
Before I found xda, I can't remember how I found it, I was using google to find info and I didn't really trust all the info out there. So XDA is my android home and you can't beat the ppl here
So now that we got all the warm and fuzzy stuff out of the way, LOL, I think this weekend I'll jump into Project V and give that a whirl
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Hi all,
I have been lurking around the forums for a while and I have gone from being totally oblivious to at least feeling as though I am somewhat android-literate now, although I still have a lot to learn. I finally took the plunge and rooted my phone last week without a hitch by using the guide here. Now I'm ready to tinker.
I'm currently running on the stock Vibrant updates...the last thing I did was the OTA GPS fix that came out maybe a month or two ago (which has worked great for me btw, no more issues with GPS). I'm trying to pick a new ROM, but I'm not familiar enough with them to pick one.
My wishlist:
-I'd like to move up to a 2.2 build
-go to a more vanilla Android (not TouchWiz)
-I'd prefer speed and stability over snazzy theming or custom animations
-I'd love to get rid of the long time to startup, and the annoying sound that goes with startup/shutdown
-At this point I'm not looking to overclock (one step at a time )
-I do like my Swype keyboard, and would like to keep it
-I plan to start using my phone in place of my iPod, so music friendliness would be a plus.
I'm not sure what other info would help narrow this down, but any suggestions? I'm loving the idea that my awesome phone could be even better.
Sounds like Eugene R2 with Swype added back (it doesn't come with it).
His io kernel helps. You would really benefit from voodoo though.
Thanks for the response. I'll give that a try. I may have to read up on voodoo because I have no idea what that is, but I think I'm fairly comfortable with how to put in a new ROM or kernel.
Thanks for your help! Any other suggestions (or just agreement with the first one) would be welcome.
Yeah, curious if others have another suggestion. Nero with voodoo us gold for me.
Here is voodoo:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870480
Nero has it though, you just need to enable it (he has really good instructions In the nero v3 thread). Always remember to disable before you flash anything else though, or you'll have to use odin to get back to stock (my warning, seriously, worth it though)
Ext4 makes the Vibrant a new phone.
I would second that opinion on Eugenes GingerBread Clone R2 . Ive been running it and I cant say anything bad about it . IO kernel has great battery life as for swype I just pulled it from NeroV3 . If you want you can go to Q&A section and I have directions and the files need to get swype running . The title is "WHERE DO I GET SWYPE FOR EUGENES GINGERBREAD CLONE?" .
I really appreciate the help guys. I'm going to give the GingerBread Clone a run here in the next hour or so and see how it goes.
Any last advice for a first time ROM-flasher?
Make sure you are not hardware locked before you do anything .
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I just wanted to thank everybody again. I kind of fell off using forums for a while, but I thought it was worth coming back to give an update. I flashed the Gingerbread Clone ROM that night and have been using it since.
I love it! My battery lasts between 30-35 hours per charge most of the time as long as I'm not gaming on it. There was a little bit of an adjustment period for a couple things, but I'm definitely happy with it. No pulldown settings toggles was a change, and the non-Swype keyboard was too. I'd say I actually prefer the new keyboard because of the good autocomplete options within just a couple letters, and I never went back to Swype.
I don't know if I could even quantify all of the little differences, but overall it seems to be snappier with better battery life. Can't complain about that! Thanks to everybody who offered suggestions.
I said 30-35 hours, but I just looked at my phone and saw I'm currently at 2 days and 6.5 hours since my last charge. Haven't used my phone a ton the last couple days, so that gives an idea of how intense the battery life has been. I'm at 54 hours and I still have another couple left if the battery indicator is to be believed.
My dad just got my mom this Tablet, I dont want to mess with it to much, so no custom roms. All I want to do is give her access to the android market. I have read tons of posts and they all start with open the market then close the market, but I dont have the market. Is there an APK to download to install the market then do the "clear cache till I get an error" fix. Or is the only way to get the market is to install a custom rom that already has the market. Please any help would be greatly appreciated.
Just flash a custom rom and make it run 10 times faster and more stable. The whole process will take less than 20 minutes if you follow my instructions down to the letter.
http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummies.webs.com/starthere.htm
You're either a code green or yellow. Take your pick.
I'm serious about it. The stock rom is really not that great. If you want to maximize the user experience for your mom, flash her a custom froyo rom. I like the calkulin+clemsyn combo the most. Make sure you pay attention to which branch of development you're on.
Ya, I was afraid that was going to be the response. I actually have been on your site for dummies. I am not new to android as I have a Motorola Atrix and have done my share of modding on it, but am nervous about screwing up my moms new present and never hearing the end of it. Gues I might just have to bite the bullet and get it done.
Go on and do it...
goodintentions said:
Just flash a custom rom and make it run 10 times faster and more stable. The whole process will take less than 20 minutes if you follow my instructions down to the letter.
http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummies.webs.com/starthere.htm
You're either a code green or yellow. Take your pick.
I'm serious about it. The stock rom is really not that great. If you want to maximize the user experience for your mom, flash her a custom froyo rom. I like the calkulin+clemsyn combo the most. Make sure you pay attention to which branch of development you're on.
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I'm 65+.
That said, I went to goodintentions website, followed the instructions, and wala, I have a custom ROM, running at blazing speed and could not be happier.
Calkulin+Clemsyn 1.5ghz Froyo Combo V6 BL1.2
I'd give it a shot.
And don't forget to make a donation to goodintentions...
Moms about to drop the tablet off. Once I find out which branch it is on, I am going to start the process goodintentions has on his "Start Here" page. thanks all for the input.
Goodluck modding the tablet. I put a custom rom on my fathers tablet. Boy did he yell at me as i was halfway through but then he used it that night, called me up and said "holy **** what did you do?" Quite funny in the moment.
Sent from my Galaxy S running Galnet's MIUI v2.2 @ 1.3ghz!
Another vote for Calkulin+Clemsyn 1.5ghz Froyo Combo V6 BL1.2
It's been perfectly solid and stable for me. Your mom shouldn't have any troubles for the foreseeable future.
The good thing is, it's essentially unbrickable, so there's always a way to back out. I assume that she's been using her Tablet since getting it, so she may be used to the UI of stock Tapntap...
That being said, if you flash a rom (another +1 here for Calk+Clem combo 1.6 for bootloader 1.2) and she doesn't like it, you can always take it right back to stock for her. I highly doubt that she'll hate the custom rom, though. She'll have full market access, speed WITH battery management, stockish settings menus, A way to backup the system OS (through CWM) , and basically just a whole new experience that is far superior to stock...
NOW, I'm sure you know, but make sure to backup whatever apps she's already got prior to flashing the new rom...
but, yeah...flash a new rom, let her use it for a few days, THEN ask her which she liked better...
All right, got the new rom and have been playing with and I am quite happy. She only had it for a day or two so I she still was getting use to it. That is why I did it right now before she got to attached to the stock rom. Not seeing the full market but need to do the clear cache and force close thing and see if it will work. I noticed several apps that I wanted to install were not showing up.
smcastillo said:
All right, got the new rom and have been playing with and I am quite happy. She only had it for a day or two so I she still was getting use to it. That is why I did it right now before she got to attached to the stock rom. Not seeing the full market but need to do the clear cache and force close thing and see if it will work. I noticed several apps that I wanted to install were not showing up.
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In theory, you will never ever have "full" market. Google market is set up so that certain device only gets certain apps. It is impossible for any one device to have access to all apps. Don't ask me why google does this.
My "girlfriend" just bought the transformer. I've been playing with it. Right away, I noticed that the market for the transformer is missing a whole bunch of apps.
That said, if you want more market access, go to the following link and read.
http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummies.webs.com/apps/blog/categories/show/1101880-02-market-fix-
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Moms about to drop the tablet off. Once I find out which branch it is on, I am going to start the process goodintentions has on his "Start Here" page. thanks all for the input.
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Don't forget to repartition and fix permissions first...
Ya, I actually started on goodintentions site "code green" and did each in order so I should have covered everything. I also did the market fix and I am able to find alot more apps now. I know you will never see everything, but there is alot more apps showing after the clear cache, force close fix.
My wife and I had Motorola XT720s and her USB borked out the other day. Our carrier replaced hers with a Vibrant and sent her on her way. Needless to say, she liked the XT720 and wants me to take the Vibrant. Since we have been on the most unholy of manufacturers (locked bootloader and no updates-yep was sold and bought on 2.1 [eclair kernal] over a year ago) I have been maintaining both our phones. We have successfully upgraded our phones to 2.2, miui, CM6/7 all with the locked bootloader and a little erseverance and a lot of adb learning.
My question is what can I do with the Vibrant and what are the better ROMs that you have? I am not affraid to get into the guts of the phone and work from that way. She just got it yesterday and when I got home, she pitched the switch to me, so this weekend, I'll root it, back up and then checkout the forums to see what is what.
Good ROMs/ Kernals (stability v experimental)?
Overclocking?
How to unlock the bootloader? I kow how on Nexus S but that is not this obviously.
Known issues with the phone in general, either software or hardware (i.e power button breaks after 2 mos. Stuff like that)
I already looked at the sticky nOOb guide for rooting. Is that update.zip the best way. Or should I use z4 or Superoneclick? I used Universal Androot before but that doesn't support Froyo kernals.
Basically, what do you like and and your opinions. The decision will be mine but I like to be informed. And I actually do like to read the threads, but we just got this yesterday and wanted to put out the feelers.
Thanks to all for your help and I look forward to the responses.
first, if your hardware locked, youre gonna havr to find the thread on how to unlock... do this FIRST.
We have several roms, they range from stable to fast and unstable
Imo, that would be froyo like bionix to cm7 respectively.. cm7 flys but its batt sucks and gps is practicallu nonexistant (not that good iin froyo tho)
There is oc up to like 1.7ghz tho my phone doesnt do more than 1.6 stable...
Also, never use kies under any circumstance and learn to use odin Well.
Thats my advice... welcome
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younix258 said:
first, if your hardware locked, youre gonna havr to find the thread on how to unlock... do this FIRST.
We have several roms, they range from stable to fast and unstable
Imo, that would be froyo like bionix to cm7 respectively.. cm7 flys but its batt sucks and gps is practicallu nonexistant (not that good iin froyo tho)
There is oc up to like 1.7ghz tho my phone doesnt do more than 1.6 stable...
Also, never use kies under any circumstance and learn to use odin Well.
Thats my advice... welcome
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That's great. Just the sort of thing I am looking for.
Couple of questions.
As far as OC. Is that an app or is it through a differnt kernal. I know that some kernals oc and undervolt or stock cpu and undervolt. There is an app in the market that was for Motorola that was called Milestone Overclock (I know real original right) and with that and SetCPU was able to oc my 550mhz to 1100. Is there a Vibrant app similar?
How do I tell if my hardware is locked? Once I know, then I will search the threads for that. I already saw some in here with regards to how to do it. I already got into stock recovery last night just to check and see if I could (have't put CWR in or rooted yet-will do that later on tonight). Does this mean it isn't HWL or am I completely missing the target?
Odin I assume is what RSDlite is to Motorola. You power up to bootloader, connect to PC and flash "stock" sbf files (which is basically what came in the box). I always like to have that on hand just in case. I'll google and check it out.
Thanks for the info and glad to be here.
Read the noob stockier guide. Has all the info you need. Also in the development section down load the aio vibrant toolbox. Has Odin, all the files you need. I recommend the rom bi winning V3. It has a kernel that can overclock. You need an app for that tho. I like set CPU because it has profile management for off screen, charging etc.. good luck.
To tell if your hardware locked turn your phone off and hold down both volume rockers and press the power button when you see the vibrant logo pop up, keep holding untilled it goes away then pops up again. Then let go of the power. It should boot into recovery mode. It will be black screen with blue letters that say reboot phone, reinstall packages, wipe data. It may take a few times to get the hang of it. If your unable to then your phones is hardware locked.
Okay, youce been in recov so youre not hw locked.... greggory, you only have to hold power button till you see anything oon the screen the first time... holding it after that just makes it hw reboot whivh works, but is a waste of time.
Okay OP, odin has some nice ffeatures that let you flash bootloaders and firmware both.. truthfully, you can flash ANY rewritable media in your phone except internal and external sd from.odin afaik.
Oc requires an oc kernel and an oc app... app for ocing include voltage control, which was made for samsung galaxy s, set cpu, which i dislike, cpu master, no-frills ... all of em work most of the time and i use Voltage control..
Am i forgetting tto address anything?
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Ok so I've been using for a few days & I have to say the I really like this phone. Rooted and installed CWR lickity-split. Want to mess around and get more comfortable with surroundings, but have a few questions.
I dl'd Tegrak OC and am using it just fine. Any suggestions on stock kernal settings. Not applying any ROMs/Kernals for now, but setting suggestions would be helpful.
Got USB connection loop. Think I have a fix for that. Need to test some more.
Do I really have to name it update.zip to make "it" work, or can I name it anything else. Tried a few other names and they don't seem to install. Update.zip v buttermilkbiscuit.zip. why?
Does zipthemer work on this phone and do I have to name it Update.zip to make it work?
To change fonts, where do I put ttf? In settings there is a font changer, but where is the folder for that. Know it isn't /system/fonts BC that is a global changer but can't find it anywhere else. Looked in /data, /android and /sdcard. Clues?
Woodrube said:
Ok so I've been using for a few days & I have to say the I really like this phone. Rooted and installed CWR lickity-split. Want to mess around and get more comfortable with surroundings, but have a few questions.
I dl'd Tegrak OC and am using it just fine. Any suggestions on stock kernal settings. Not applying any ROMs/Kernals for now, but setting suggestions would be helpful.
Got USB connection loop. Think I have a fix for that. Need to test some more.
Do I really have to name it update.zip to make "it" work, or can I name it anything else. Tried a few other names and they don't seem to install. Update.zip v buttermilkbiscuit.zip. why?
Does zipthemer work on this phone and do I have to name it Update.zip to make it work?
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Ok i think you should flash rom an kernel it takes phone to another an you do have to name it update.zip that is what recovery looks for an that is how custom one is installed i dont know what zip themer is but if u mean apply thme with zip then yes u can
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Ok i think you should flash rom an kernel it takes phone to another an you do have to name it update.zip that is what recovery looks for an that is how custom one is installed i dont know what zip themer is but if u mean apply thme with zip then yes u can
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I'll flash soon enough, just want to get my feet wet a bit. Only had phone for two days, so still picking and searching. More suggestions on ROMs/kernals, other than above?
Zipthemer is sweet. It takes all unzipped Metamorph.xmls, packages into one .zip and also creates and undo.zip too. Great themer.
There is a font changer in settings, but where is the folder to put the ttf file? /system/font is global, but looked in /data and /android and can't figure where to put it.
Just doing some house cleaning in my account and found this thread. It was my first thread in the Vibrant fora, just 5 short months ago.
Seems like so long ago. Have learned so much since then. Some have gone and some are still here, but I love this phone and the community that supports it.
Woodrube said:
Just doing some house cleaning in my account and found this thread. It was my first thread in the Vibrant fora, just 5 short months ago.
Seems like so long ago. Have learned so much since then. Some have gone and some are still here, but I love this phone and the community that supports it.
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Lmao I was reading this thread going .... is wood trolling us right now till the last post then I looked at the dates lol
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Woodrube said:
Just doing some house cleaning in my account and found this thread. It was my first thread in the Vibrant fora, just 5 short months ago.
Seems like so long ago. Have learned so much since then. Some have gone and some are still here, but I love this phone and the community that supports it.
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Lol ... I couldn't resist! Just had to take a peak here - esp. seeing Woody's name and "New to the phone" in the title!! :what:
Woodman ...
The Vibrant fora wouldn't be the same experience without your participation, brother. Your ICS Guide thread (and our extensive GB BL discussion ... lol) originally inspired me to take the ICS leap (as well build the nerve to finally register and participate in threads here - ie. I was a long time "lurker"). Haven't looked back since.
Thanks for your efforts to ensuring all our Vibrant experiences stay ... well ... "Vibrant"!
That is funny. I just went back a re-read that thread. There is some good Q and A in there about all types of scenarios. Alot of familiar names too that have moved up in the ranks of experience as well.
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That is funny. I just went back a re-read that thread. There is some good Q and A in there about all types of scenarios. Alot of familiar names too that have moved up in the ranks of experience as well.
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Haha ... I just did the same. That thread could have been called, "Everything you wanted to know about ICS ... but weren't afraid to ask." Hilarious.
I'm not sure what wasn't discussed. We hit all the corners including some homescreen screenshots as icing on the cake. Great (re)read!
I completely forgot that some of the Zen crew had joined in ... Mostdef, bobshute, xriderx66. Lol. :thumbup:
Noobs these days
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This was fun to read, seeing Wood just entering the Vibrant community. The new guy on the block. Now look at you, you're one of the most recognized Vibrant users.
I remember my first post on XDA. I was messing around with Rom Manager and accidentally installed CWR. You wouldn't believe how much I was panicking, I thought I had bricked my phone! Lol, shows how much I knew.
Actually, that's why my name is "N00B_IN_N33D", because I was a noob who was in need of help. After I figured out how to Odin back to stock, which removed the (what I thought was) evil CWR I thought I wouldn't mess with my phone anymore. However s15274n talked me into flashing a custom froyo rom, Trigger, if I remember correctly. From there I blossomed in my understanding of Android and my Vibrant...
Anyhow, back on topic. It's amazing how experienced people have become here.
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We all growed up real good.
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This was fun to read, seeing Wood just entering the Vibrant community. The new guy on the block. Now look at you, you're one of the most recognized Vibrant users.
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Anyhow, back on topic. It's amazing how experienced people have become here.
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The Woodman deserves his due "respect" (but you have to say it the way AliG would to get the full effect). True Zen-like patience and an extremely rare dedication to help people. He's good peoples. No doubt!
Speaking of the way-back machine ... I can't even remember what Froyo was like. Do you? Then there's Eclair (yikes!). :what: I do remember the jump from Froyo to GB was pretty substantial. CM7 with those novel toggle bars and major speed boosts. Then ICS just took the phone to another level.
I remember the first time I rooted my phone, I was soooo damn nervous that I'd end up with a brick. I was just using SuperOneClick ... lol. The first time using Odin after reading all the horror stories here. The first time waiting through the VLF EXT4 conversion (seemed to take forever).
Been a fun ride.
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The first time waiting through the VLF EXT4 conversion (seemed to take forever).
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The first time I flashed a Froyo Voodoo kernel, I was in my basement watching a west coast baseball game and it was late. The wife and kids were asleep and like you said, it took forever. Forgot to turn the volume off when I did it. So I am sitting there watching the game and I see the Bali palm tree. I think cool, whatever. I return to the game and out of nowhere, I hear this lady's voice. Thought it must have been the parabolic on TV picking up some lady in the stands. Then I hear it again. Kind of freaked me out until I realized it was LINDA. I'll tell ya, if you are ready for her, she'll freak you the f**k out.
Anyways, thanks for the kind words. I remember one of the many freak out, panic sessions I've had in the past and there was always someone who helped me out. Just feel it is my duty to give back. Now if I can solve this Encryption Error bug, I'll have come full circle. It is driving me nuts.
I remember one of my first threads back in 2009
It was a fake Hero ROM for G1
I bashed on two devs and everyone was pissed at me....then when I moved to the Vibrant I got a clean start
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The first time I flashed a Froyo Voodoo kernel, I was in my basement watching a west coast baseball game and it was late. The wife and kids were asleep and like you said, it took forever. Forgot to turn the volume off when I did it. So I am sitting there watching the game and I see the Bali palm tree. I think cool, whatever. I return to the game and out of nowhere, I hear this lady's voice. Thought it must have been the parabolic on TV picking up some lady in the stands. Then I hear it again. Kind of freaked me out until I realized it was LINDA. I'll tell ya, if you are ready for her, she'll freak you the f**k out.
Anyways, thanks for the kind words. I remember one of the many freak out, panic sessions I've had in the past and there was always someone who helped me out. Just feel it is my duty to give back. Now if I can solve this Encryption Error bug, I'll have come full circle. It is driving me nuts.
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atleast your LINDA issue was panicked and gone.
I was in the bathroom taking a dump while the conversion went on... it freaked me out, and my mom thought i was watching porn in there -.-'
She then told this story at our family reunion... Almost died of embarrassment
So hey all, I am new here so bear with me. I have been on Android for about a year and am finally ready to root and run a rom. Started out with a Samsung Fascinate which got traded for a Droid X and that got replaced with a Droid X2. Having some small issues with the DX2, and since I need to factory reset I figured I would go ahead and try to root and run a rom...
So my question is being a complete noob would I be better with CM7 or Miui. Originally on the DX I looked into Miui and really liked how it looked and really wanted it and did a lot of research on it, but before I could try it I had to send back my DX and they replaced it with a brand new DX2 in the box. Then looking into it I noticed that Miui was not available for the DX2, so I just gave up and stayed put.
Recently reading thru the forums I see Miui is available now for the DX2, but I also was looking into CM7 which also looks really nice. I was wondering would either of them be easier for a noob? (i.e. install and post install customization) I have read up on both not having functional FM radio and HDMI, which are not big deals because I rarely use either... but are there any other big problems with either of these roms that would make a noobie like myself steer clear from them and is one of them faster than the other? I also looked into eclipse and not sure if that is something I should consider. Are there any major issues with eclipse and is it more stable than the other two? Honestly right now I am just trying to figure out where to start. I want to do something, but also want the easiest route so that I do not brick my phone as my wife would probably kill me, haha.
There is just so much info out there, I really don't know where to start. I know you guys probably get these questions all the time, but I could not find a specific thread that talked about just these two (or three) roms specifically for the DX2. I have been trying for the past month or two to research this stuff, and I have learned a lot, but I need a little help to push me in the right direction...
Oh, and if you couldn't guess I am on stock GB 2.3.4 unrooted...
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So hey all, I am new here so bear with me. I have been on Android for about a year and am finally ready to root and run a rom. Started out with a Samsung Fascinate which got traded for a Droid X and that got replaced with a Droid X2. Having some small issues with the DX2, and since I need to factory reset I figured I would go ahead and try to root and run a rom...
So my question is being a complete noob would I be better with CM7 or Miui. Originally on the DX I looked into Miui and really liked how it looked and really wanted it and did a lot of research on it, but before I could try it I had to send back my DX and they replaced it with a brand new DX2 in the box. Then looking into it I noticed that Miui was not available for the DX2, so I just gave up and stayed put.
Recently reading thru the forums I see Miui is available now for the DX2, but I also was looking into CM7 which also looks really nice. I was wondering would either of them be easier for a noob? (i.e. install and post install customization) I have read up on both not having functional FM radio and HDMI, which are not big deals because I rarely use either... but are there any other big problems with either of these roms that would make a noobie like myself steer clear from them and is one of them faster than the other? I also looked into eclipse and not sure if that is something I should consider. Are there any major issues with eclipse and is it more stable than the other two? Honestly right now I am just trying to figure out where to start. I want to do something, but also want the easiest route so that I do not brick my phone as my wife would probably kill me, haha.
There is just so much info out there, I really don't know where to start. I know you guys probably get these questions all the time, but I could not find a specific thread that talked about just these two (or three) roms specifically for the DX2. I have been trying for the past month or two to research this stuff, and I have learned a lot, but I need a little help to push me in the right direction...
Oh, and if you couldn't guess I am on stock GB 2.3.4 unrooted...
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Eclipse is the most stable. Cm7 and miui are both betas and not everything works.. Cm7 is good for speed, and miui for crazy customization options.
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Jubomime said:
Eclipse is the most stable. Cm7 and miui are both betas and not everything works.. Cm7 is good for speed, and miui for crazy customization options.
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Can I ask if you were just starting out and never messed with any roms before, which one would you choose out of the three?
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Can I ask if you were just starting out and never messed with any roms before, which one would you choose out of the three?
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Eclipse is likely the most stable, with CM7 following closely behind. MIUI is still in alpha. I haven't tried MIUI yet, but I've read people are having problems. For installing, they should all follow the same process.
Woops, accidentally clicked thank on your post. Oh well lol
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Can I ask if you were just starting out and never messed with any roms before, which one would you choose out of the three?
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Definitely recommend eclipse for starting out.
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Well Eclipse is currently based on Android 2.3.5, which means if you decided on that ROM, you would have to update to 2.3.5 then flash the ROM. Then if you ever wanted to switch to a different ROM, you would have to go through the process of SBF'ing back to Android 2.3.4 since all other ROMs are 2.3.4 based. However, Eclipse is the most stable as was mentioned already. Now between CM7 and MIUI, both are great ROMs. MIUI has some issues with audio and video in some scenarios but still works well. Flashing ROMs isnt that hard so if you have the time, try them all out. Just have all the files ready to restore your phone back to health in case something goes wrong.
One other thing to think about between Eclipse (which is stable and the upcoming 2.0.4 release is really stable and fast) and CM7/MIUI is HDMI.
Eclipse still can output HDMI since it still has some of the BLUR components in it.
CM7/MIUI are both compiled from AOSP components and have ALL of the BLUR components removed, hence no HDMI.
So, if you use HDMI and it's deal-breaker for you, then Eclipse is definitely the way you want to go. But, stability is also nice thing for Eclipse.
I see the stability of the ROMs as follows with the most stable listed first:
Eclipse 2.0.X
CM7 Beta
MIUI
CM9 (not released yet but it has Ice Cream Sandwich)
I was on Eclipse 2.0.3, then went to CM7 and stayed there for awhile. Then, I got onto the Eclipse beta team and started testing 2.0.4. The latest 2.0.4 is the most stable I've seen Eclipse, after a few minor issues, but that's why were were beta testing it. Definitely, I'm sticking with Eclipse.
One thing I've noticed, no matter how hard you try to leave Eclipse, I'm always noticing that people keep coming back to it. That alone should tell you how great a ROM it really is.
Thanks everyone. Seems like maybe I should try out Eclipse first, which is fine. I do want the most stable rom when it comes to my first time... then if I am feeling adventurous later I can try out the others. I will go do a search and hopefully can find a post that lets me know everything I need to do in one post. Thanks again for all the help, if anyone else wants to chime in, please do, I am open to any and all suggestions!
Go here:
http://www.eclipserom.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=46
Motcher has given a step-by-step explanation on how to get Eclipse 2.0.3 up and running. Once you have that, then when Eclipse 2.0.4 goes public, you'll already be set to flash it.
Eclipse 2.0.3 is here -> http://www.eclipserom.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=11
Both of these links go to the Eclipse forums where Nitro posts all his releases now.
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Can I ask if you were just starting out and never messed with any roms before, which one would you choose out of the three?
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Thanks everyone. Seems like maybe I should try out Eclipse first, which is fine. I do want the most stable rom when it comes to my first time... then if I am feeling adventurous later I can try out the others. I will go do a search and hopefully can find a post that lets me know everything I need to do in one post. Thanks again for all the help, if anyone else wants to chime in, please do, I am open to any and all suggestions!
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Eclipse is a good choice for your first time. It'll be gentle I promise.
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Thanks everyone. Seems like maybe I should try out Eclipse first, which is fine. I do want the most stable rom when it comes to my first time... then if I am feeling adventurous later I can try out the others. I will go do a search and hopefully can find a post that lets me know everything I need to do in one post. Thanks again for all the help, if anyone else wants to chime in, please do, I am open to any and all suggestions!
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Lucky for you, motcher created this sticky in the Development forum here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1391824
[REF]How to go from any 2.3.4 stock/custom rom to any 2.3.5 (412) based custom rom
It has all the instructions you need in one place , it is all very easy also , don't be afraid of bricking your x2
We have this little thing called sbf, as long as you have a computer you will be able to bring you phone back from any "bricked" state if any problems happen.
just stay away from modifying any boot partitions or anything like that. Stick to basics like flashing roms and tweaks/mods/scripts that are found here in the x2 forum and you won't ever hard brick your x2 to the point of no return lol
if you are ever unsure about what exactly a mod/tweak/script/ROM/hack does to your phone then just ask before doing it, trust me tho, sbf is freaking great, so many times I've gotten "bricked" at the Motorola dual core splash screen and a quick sbf flash brings it right back...
And in case you didn't notice, I recommend eclipse enjoy, happy flashing, and welcome
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Thanks so much for the info! I was out searching and wanted to ask if there was a specific link I could get that I could trust, but I didn't want to bother you all as I am sure you get these same questions over and over again. So thank you so much for passing that along... such a huge help and I am gonna attempt it here in a few moments...
Yeah, I have read a lot about sbf'ing and some people still act like I should be worried about bricking my phone, but I have also read other places where people have stated they have yet to see a phone they couldn't get back. So I am gonna try this, and just follow it step by step so I don't screw anything up! Will let you all know how it goes. Again, I can't thank everyone enough for all the great info!!
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Thanks so much for the info! I was out searching and wanted to ask if there was a specific link I could get that I could trust, but I didn't want to bother you all as I am sure you get these same questions over and over again. So thank you so much for passing that along... such a huge help and I am gonna attempt it here in a few moments...
Yeah, I have read a lot about sbf'ing and some people still act like I should be worried about bricking my phone, but I have also read other places where people have stated they have yet to see a phone they couldn't get back. So I am gonna try this, and just follow it step by step so I don't screw anything up! Will let you all know how it goes. Again, I can't thank everyone enough for all the great info!!
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Yea
I haven't seen anyone truly hard brick an x2
just stay away.from the mounts& storage options in BSR , and I think the only things you should touch in the advanced menu in BSR is wipe dalvik cache and battery stats...don't mess with anything else and you will be just fine brotha
Also, if there is anything you are to "embarrassed" to ask on the forum, then just shoot someone a private message my pm inbox is always open
And yes, when rooted and you are doing hacks and tweaks and such, you always have the risk of something going wrong, but like I said, never seen a truly hard bricked x2 that couldn't be fixed via sbf, ...you really gotta kinda be TRYING to brick for that to happen lol
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Yea
I haven't seen anyone truly hard brick an x2
just stay away.from the mounts& storage options in BSR , and I think the only things you should touch in the advanced menu in BSR is wipe dalvik cache and battery stats...don't mess with anything else and you will be just fine brotha
Also, if there is anything you are to "embarrassed" to ask on the forum, then just shoot someone a private message my pm inbox is always open
And yes, when rooted and you are doing hacks and tweaks and such, you always have the risk of something going wrong, but like I said, never seen a truly hard bricked x2 that couldn't be fixed via sbf, ...you really gotta kinda be TRYING to brick for that to happen lol
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Okay one quick question. On the link you provided the very fist download, RSD lite is not available. When you go to download it you get "Such file does not exist or it has been removed for infringement of copyrights." I went into the eclipse forum and there is mention of it being updated, but that is all I can find. Do you know where else I could get this file?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22117008&postcount=135
Someone else asked same question other day
that link shows my response
Also,
U said you were on stock 2.3.4 right?
you won't need to sbf if you are, just install the 2.3.5 update zip
Then root with zergrush and good to go
Unless you are just getting everything set up for just in case you need to sbf...which is a great idea also
Good luck
ashclepdia said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22117008&postcount=135
Someone else asked same question other day
that link shows my response
Also,
U said you were on stock 2.3.4 right?
you won't need to sbf if you are, just install the 2.3.5 update zip
Then root with zergrush and good to go
Unless you are just getting everything set up for just in case you need to sbf...which is a great idea also
Good luck
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Yes, thats exactly what I was doing. I wanted to make sure I had everything just in case something went wrong. Just figured it would be good to have everything all set But thanks again... much appreciation!
Miui is my rom of choice when it's in full release candidate polish, and maybe eventually Ace's Miui4DX2 will get there. In the meantime, there's a battery-eating wakelock issue, app-by-app sound issues (sound sometimes just doesn't work), and some kind of rendering issue that slows Netflix/certain games/MX Video and various other media apps to a 1 frame per minute crawl. There's also an issue where wifi drops out periodically and doesn't reconnect unless you prompt it (or install a service like "Wi Fi Fixer" that toggles it for you).
So until Ace releases a better beta (which could be as soon as tomorrow, or as late as never), I'd count Miui out as a daily driver.
CM7 as a rom is great--not quite as pretty as Miui (and I find Miui eliminates a lot of the sloppiness in pre-ICS Android), but it is rock solid. DZK's build is an almost perfect CM7 build, except it has the same wifi connectivity issue as Ace's Miui. The advantages it offers more than compensate for the annoyance of having to run Wi-fi Fixer and every now and then waiting for wi-fi to reconnect.
I'm running CM7 on my DX2 and am quite happy with it. I'll give Miui another shot if there's another release (and I'm excited to see how DZK's CM9 runs), but CM7 is likely to be the best daily driver for the X2 for at least another month or two
Eclipse is Blur based (so it has the advantage of functional HDMI), but suffers from the slowdowns/choppiness/audio tearing when multitasking we all know Blur brings. Nitro did a good job of cutting Blur's visual crap out, and he built in a few useful scripts.
Eclipse is definitely better than stock, but if you're gonna go through the trouble of rooting and rom-ing, I'd go with CM7. There's also the issue jsgraphicart mentioned about 2.3.5 vs 2.3.4 requiring a couple extra SBFs if you ever want to switch to something else.
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Miui is my rom of choice when it's in full release candidate polish, and maybe eventually Ace's Miui4DX2 will get there. In the meantime, there's a battery-eating wakelock issue, app-by-app sound issues (sound sometimes just doesn't work), and some kind of rendering issue that slows Netflix/certain games/MX Video and various other media apps to a 1 frame per minute crawl. There's also an issue where wifi drops out periodically and doesn't reconnect unless you prompt it (or install a service like "Wi Fi Fixer" that toggles it for you).
So until Ace releases a better beta (which could be as soon as tomorrow, or as late as never), I'd count Miui out as a daily driver.
CM7 as a rom is great--not quite as pretty as Miui (and I find Miui eliminates a lot of the sloppiness in pre-ICS Android), but it is rock solid. DZK's build is an almost perfect CM7 build, except it has the same wifi connectivity issue as Ace's Miui. The advantages it offers more than compensate for the annoyance of having to run Wi-fi Fixer and every now and then waiting for wi-fi to reconnect.
I'm running CM7 on my DX2 and am quite happy with it. I'll give Miui another shot if there's another release (and I'm excited to see how DZK's CM9 runs), but CM7 is likely to be the best daily driver for the X2 for at least another month or two
Eclipse is Blur based (so it has the advantage of functional HDMI), but suffers from the slowdowns/choppiness/audio tearing when multitasking we all know Blur brings. Nitro did a good job of cutting Blur's visual crap out, and he built in a few useful scripts.
Eclipse is definitely better than stock, but if you're gonna go through the trouble of rooting and rom-ing, I'd go with CM7. There's also the issue jsgraphicart mentioned about 2.3.5 vs 2.3.4 requiring a couple extra SBFs if you ever want to switch to something else.
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Well hrmm, now you got me thinking about CM7 again, lol. I am in the process of downloading the Eclipse files and maybe I will look into CM7 some more before I proceed. Honestly, I am not at all concerned with the HDMI issue, as I rarely use it... but with that being said can you tell me any more issues with CM7 that would turn off a user from making it their daily rom? if no HDMI is the only issue, that is not a deal breaker for me...
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Well hrmm, now you got me thinking about CM7 again, lol. I am in the process of downloading the Eclipse files and maybe I will look into CM7 some more before I proceed. Honestly, I am not at all concerned with the HDMI issue, as I rarely use it... but with that being said can you tell me any more issues with CM7 that would turn off a user from making it their daily rom? if no HDMI is the only issue, that is not a deal breaker for me...
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I had issues with apps sometimes hanging and having to kill them. Also, Super User would sometimes forget an app already had the permissions to run as root. Sometimes, I'd have to go into the application manager and tell it to stop the application and try again and then it would get the SU permissions.
With Eclipse, I've have never had this problem. Again, it just shows how Eclipse is much more stable.
As it is, I don't know how much farther Dragonzkiller will stick with CM7 since he's working on CM9 right now. He's been so busy trying to get CM9 out that any more development/enhancing of CM7 and curing the SU and hanging process issues seems to have stopped at this point. But, not pointing the blame at DKZ as he's one busy dude with CM9.
However, Nitro is constantly busy working on Eclipse and not just for the X2. He also does it for the Bionic, RAZR, Galaxy Nexus, and Droid Charge. I don't know how he does it!
Great points. Thanks for the info. I tried to thank your post, but being new I did not know I was limited to 8 thanks per day, lol. But I wanted to let you know I appreciated the feedback!
So I posted in the build thread, but thought maybe someone might have a quick answer that I've missed.
I Unlocked (I used the 1.83 clean SBF since megaupload was down and I couldn't find the 2.3.4 one) then followed the instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1302423
and some youtube videos and some other sites lol, it was VERY stumbly getting it to give root, the unlock went fine, I think I could have even done it on the stock install I had, but I didn't... I used the 1.83 sbf in the pudding thread. (not sure if that was the right thing to do or not. I'm kind of confused on the whole rolling back thing and how it gets bricked with certain roms. I also didn't do a back up of my stock locked install so I have no idea how to get back to stock but I don't really care about that now)
Rom'd this Tablet UI:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1532182
and ran the Gappsv10 linked there. That didn't work, ran it again then it did work for gmail voice talk... but Maps, navigation, g+ all won't install and show as incompatible with my device. Same goes for FB Foursquare, Netflix, and tons of other apps... Not sure if I did something wrong or if this is normal. Oh I also tried running the latest Gapps v12 still no dice.
Any help is appreciated, I just don't have too much time to figure all this crap out... I dip in and out of romming phones for brief periods and everything changes so much and each phone is so different it always takes me forever to figure out what's what.
Since I'm begging for easy pointers which everyone hates, might as well go all in...
I want an ICS rom that has Gentop or Full Ubuntu or whatever for use in the laptop dock... is that doable?
I'll pay someone who's willing to hold my hand through getting my perfect rom sorted out. $30 first offer? It will be a pain though... I ask lots of questions.
I love XDA but I sure do wish people were a little more noob friendly and elaborate in their replies... buzz words and quippy short answers don't do it for me.
I've been doing this for years and once I know my way around a phone I'm more than happy to do so myself, and on all the car forums I'm on I try to give thoughtful complete replies to noobs, remember we were ALL noobs once at EVERYTHING.
I'm a little loopy on pain meds for a kidney stone so forgive me if this is a little ranty.
No one?
I'm going to try to reinstall the rom again. I did all the wipes and formats and reset etc before getting it running the first time....
But I rom'd cm9 last night and did the signed gapps install (tried that on the tablet ui too) and maps/navigation and all the prev. not working apps work fine...
There are a few apps that don't work but they were few and far between. CM9 is great, only downside I've seen so far is no video which is kinda big for me, I've got kids so half of my phone use is video's.... but so far I love ICS/CM.
Ensure you are using the correct gapps version. This one is for cm7.
http://db.tt/XU1igdoL
MB860, CM7.2.0, Faux 026b1 1Ghz
thanks, I think either the rom I had didn't install right or is borked.
I installed clean cm9 nightly and all gapps work fine.
If only the camera and finger print scanner worked.. webtop wouldn't hurt either but overall I'm REALLY impressed with cm9 on an unsupported device.
Runs smooth hardly any glitches decent battery life.
Thanks again
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Videocam illusion works OK. Free @ play store.
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