just wondering since the xoom seems to support a bit more h264 codec wise. I would like to be abe to remux mkv files for play on my atrix, but it doesnt seem to work like it does on the xoom. I noticed there are files in axf format that appear to be for decoding of h264 and mp4, if I used the ones in the xoom or transformer would I gain functionality seeing as how they have the same cpu? I would try it myself but I dont have a xoom or transformer and cant seem to find the files im after.
I think that codecs can be ported as long hey have the same proc chip.
Another thing to consider is the differences between honeycomb, froyo and/or gingerbread
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I think that codecs can be ported as long hey have the same proc chip.
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I would love to try, could help me win an argument and be useful at the same time! Someone was trying to tell me the atrix cant play mkv because it isnt powerful enough after he misunderstood the "hardware" limitation of the tegra 2, tried to explain to him that it doesnt have the hardware codec for high profile h264...
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I would love to try, could help me win an argument and be useful at the same time! Someone was trying to tell me the atrix cant play mkv because it isnt powerful enough after he misunderstood the "hardware" limitation of the tegra 2, tried to explain to him that it doesnt have the hardware codec for high profile h264...
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There is no way to argument with a people that didnt understand the diference beetween HARDWARE limitation and DRIVERS limitation.
Our hardware is compatible with h264 and other things that aren't enabled or coded right now, but with unlocked bootloader we'll make our cellphone 2x more powerful.
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just wondering since the xoom seems to support a bit more h264 codec wise. I would like to be abe to remux mkv files for play on my atrix, but it doesnt seem to work like it does on the xoom. I noticed there are files in axf format that appear to be for decoding of h264 and mp4, if I used the ones in the xoom or transformer would I gain functionality seeing as how they have the same cpu? I would try it myself but I dont have a xoom or transformer and cant seem to find the files im after.
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You can ask for the files in Xoom forum. I'm sure somebody will help you.
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Isnt there a possibility to get the Xperia x10 Mini Pro to capture videos in High Definition 720p?
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Isnt there a possibility to get the Xperia x10 Mini Pro to capture videos in High Definition 720p?
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Sorry, but no, it happens because of your hardware, x10 mini Pro camera is very good, but still not enough to capture in HD. Fox example my friend has X10 and its 8.1mP so he spoke me he can capture in HD. Its because of his camera (8.1 )
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Sorry, but no, it happens because of your hardware, x10 mini Pro camera is very good, but still not enough to capture in HD. Fox example my friend has X10 and its 8.1mP so he spoke me he can capture in HD. Its because of his camera (8.1 )
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It's because our phone don't have the power to encode video in HD the camera resolution have nothing to do with video recording.
For example some tablets (xoon) or phones (galaxy R) have 5mp camera and record video in HD.
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VGA 640x480 is the highest possible.
As it has been said before, the X10 Mini and X10 Mini Pro simply don't have enough power to encode video in 720p and higher.
Just an idea... What about saving the raw video stream and encoding it on a pc... (yeah i know it takes a lot of space.)
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Just an idea... What about saving the raw video stream and encoding it on a pc... (yeah i know it takes a lot of space.)
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Not sure what class of sd card you'd need, but the mb/s could still be greater than even class 10 could handle! HD raw is a lot of bits a second.
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most probably no
to check just play a 720p(mp4) on arcmedia ,it lags alot
i think it might be possible to record vid on lower framerate(15 or lower)...
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it has nothing to do with megapixelzz eg:web cams have 2mpx with 720p
For me, X10mini & mini pro is enough powerful to record 720p because many less powerful Samsung or other featured phone can record HD. Also camera does not matter cause iPod touch has a VGA camera which is capable to record 720p at 30FPS. It is just about kernel & camera driver. It is not impossible but may be it is very difficult.
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For me, X10mini & mini pro is enough powerful to record 720p because many less powerful Samsung or other featured phone can record HD. Also camera does not matter cause iPod touch has a VGA camera which is capable to record 720p at 30FPS. It is just about kernel & camera driver. It is not impossible but may be it is very difficult.
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I think you are missing something....by power, i assume, u'r tryin 2 point 2wards "processing" power????...were did you find a cell with less than 600Mhz processing power and YET encoding 1280X720 videos???????!!!!!!!!!....it is just plain impossible......can u site any example to prove me wrong, please??????
Raqib said:
For me, X10mini & mini pro is enough powerful to record 720p because many less powerful Samsung or other featured phone can record HD. Also camera does not matter cause iPod touch has a VGA camera which is capable to record 720p at 30FPS. It is just about kernel & camera driver. It is not impossible but may be it is very difficult.
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I think you are missing something....by power, i assume, u'r tryin 2 point 2wards "processing" power????...were did you find a cell with less than 600Mhz processing power and YET encoding 1280X720 videos ???????!!!!!!!!!....it is just plain impossible......can u site any example to prove me wrong, please??????
is there any video player which plays 720p videos??
My media player only uses a 400mhz processor and 256mb RAM and can encode HD video from either DVB (already encoded to be fair) or analogue RGB input... However, the processor is geared towards media processing, in fact it was built to do that and that alone, if it was asked to render a simple vga 3D game it would probably output 1fps if anything at all!
Some processors are designed for specific tasks which they can do remarkably well, others are design to do many things but not quite as well. Software does play a mighty big part but it cannot overcome the constraints of the hardware in question.
Maybe other phones with HD recording have an inbuilt subprocessor or utilize functions inherant in Arm 7 but not Arm 6.. it might be possible to emulate the functions but the results might not be great.
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Not sure what class of sd card you'd need, but the mb/s could still be greater than even class 10 could handle! HD raw is a lot of bits a second.
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ITS very very very difficult
but nothing is imposible
see this:::
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698287
I don't think that processing power is the limitation here for higher quality recording. This is what SE used to say for froyo or gb and it's plain crap proven repeatedly.
The problems are:
a) the sensor, i.e. is it capable of higher res. for video recording? 5mpixels are more that enough for 720p (i.e. like the N1) but there's more than the mpixels in the camera sensor to be able to do more.
b) we don't have kernel support for anything more than VGA. And this is sensor specific. If we ever got lucky and another msm7x27 device used this sensor and had better resolution we might have been able to investigate if it's usable.
c) we can't load custom kernels (this stops any other thoughts for the time being).
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I think you are missing something....by power, i assume, u'r tryin 2 point 2wards "processing" power????...were did you find a cell with less than 600Mhz processing power and YET encoding 1280X720 videos???????!!!!!!!!!....it is just plain impossible......can u site any example to prove me wrong, please??????
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its not impossible
n8(680mhz)
omnia hd(600mhz)
Motorola MOTO MT716(600 android based))
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n8-3252.php
achyut said:
I think you are missing something....by power, i assume, u'r tryin 2 point 2wards "processing" power????...were did you find a cell with less than 600Mhz processing power and YET encoding 1280X720 videos???????!!!!!!!!!....it is just plain impossible......can u site any example to prove me wrong, please??????
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My friend, by the term "powerful" I meant the processing power too. If it is possible with Omnia HD's 600MHz then it is possible with 600MHz too. I have modded my old Motorola E2 which have a 1.3MPx camera & now I am able to record 720p at 17Fps with that. I just worked with kernel, because E2 runs linux & android is also using linux kernel I think it is possible. I am currently working on that. Let me see If I can prove you wrong
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. I just worked with kernel, because E2 runs linux & android is also using linux kernel I think it is possible. I am currently working on that. Let me see If I can prove you wrong
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buddy,dats da key point....we cannot yet load custom kernels
nd of omnia hd, or n8 or SE vivaz....dey r symbian. symbian is a lot "lighter" os dan android but as sed, processin power is not actually da problem....lets keep fingrz crossd
now that we have kernel support.. is HD video recording possible??
So I currently have a Thrive but looking to get a Flyer since I miss my old 7 inch Samsung tab and how portable it was but I have a couple questions?
1. Is there a difference between the wifi HTC flyer and Sprint's Evo View other then the 3g radio? (different rom, codecs, stock apps, color?)
2. Once flashed to 3.2 is there a way to get back to 2.3 if needed (US model)?
3.Will it run apps made samsung 7 tab or dell 7? (ex: Gameloft HD game for
Samsung Tab)
4.What codecs does it play natively? (H.264,avi,mov,mkv,divx?)
5.Is there tv-out?
6.Are the speakers and good/loud?
7.What the best Honeycomb and Custom 2.3 roms out now (I'm asking for experienced opinion for this one)?
8.When on Honeycomb can it run Tegra 2 app/games?
Lastly,
9. Where the cheapest place to get one (best buy has them for $300)?
If you can answer some or all or these it would really help me decide.
I trust XDA members opinions over stupid reviewers on the web.
Thanks Everyone
The Stock ROMs are the same for wifi or 3g.
The processor is not Tegra 2 so cannot run Tegra specific apps.
Other than Samsung proprietary apps, anything that ran on the Sammy 7 should run even better on the Flyer.
As of yet if you flash to HC, you cannot go back on US wifi only models, that is being worked. All the HC ROMs have pretty much the same features and issues as they are all built from the same leaked base.
There is HDMI out via the MHL Micro USB port, requires small MHL to HDMI adapter.
As far as I know BB has the best price.
the stylus is neat, there is a Ebay source for $30.
The speakers are good, the internal Mic is excellent.
Thank you
... anyone else wanna share some input?
synplex said:
So I currently have a Thrive but looking to get a Flyer since I miss my old 7 inch Samsung tab and how portable it was but I have a couple questions?
1. Is there a difference between the wifi HTC flyer and Sprint's Evo View other then the 3g radio? (different rom, codecs, stock apps, color?)
2. Once flashed to 3.2 is there a way to get back to 2.3 if needed (US model)?
3.Will it run apps made samsung 7 tab or dell 7? (ex: Gameloft HD game for
Samsung Tab)
4.What codecs does it play natively? (H.264,avi,mov,mkv,divx?)
5.Is there tv-out?
6.Are the speakers and good/loud?
7.What the best Honeycomb and Custom 2.3 roms out now (I'm asking for experienced opinion for this one)?
8.When on Honeycomb can it run Tegra 2 app/games?
Lastly,
9. Where the cheapest place to get one (best buy has them for $300)?
If you can answer some or all or these it would really help me decide.
I trust XDA members opinions over stupid reviewers on the web.
Thanks Everyone
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1. Yes. 3G Flyer is GSM, for AT&T, T-Mobile, stuff like that. Evo View is only for Sprint, and Wifi is, well, Wifi only.
2. No there is no way to go back. @globatron is working on a downgrade method, but it is not complete yet.
3. Well if it is a game made specifically for the Tab's hardware then it may or may not run. But most apps (non-gameloft) will work fine, even better than the Tab.
4. DigitalMD has a great explanation:
DigitalMD said:
As far as video formats, the Flyer supports all the standard Android supported formats. The stock player will only play standard formats that it has built-in codecs for.
AVI and MKV are not formats, they are containers and it depends on what is actually inside. For non-standard formats there are a number of 3rd party players on the android market that will play just about anything but if it does not match a hardware codec, performance may be degraded, but it will play.
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5. Again, haven't tried it out, but look here: http://www.myhtcflyer.com/htc-flyer-accessories/anyone-tried-tv-out-yet/
6. Speakers are amazing. They work great, no fuzz or anything.
7. HC, I don't know, all ROMS are really almost the same. GB Roms, IMHO, LeeDroid + FlyHigh are the best, they are both fast and have good Overclocks. Westfire is OK. This is personal choice.
8. Tegra 2 is hardware. The Flyer doesn't have Tegra 2, so no go.
9. Best Buy. Flyer for $299, Pen from ebay they are pretty cheap.
As far as video formats, the Flyer supports all the standard Android supported formats. The stock player will only play standard formats that it has built-in codecs for.
HTC Flyer Supported Audio formats
aac, .amr, .ogg, .m4a, .mid, .mp3, .wav, .wma (Windows Media Audio 9)
HTC Flyer Supported Video formats
3gp, .3g2, .mp4, .wmv (Windows Media Video 9), .avi (MP4 ASP and MP3), .xvid (MP4 ASP and MP3)
The stock player does not recognize the .mkv extension. That does not mean there is not a comparable accelerated codec necessarily.
Because...........
AVI and MKV are not formats, they are containers and it depends on what is actually inside. For example a .mkv file could contain a standard mp4 format. For non-standard formats there are a number of 3rd party players on the android market that will play just about anything but if it does not match a hardware codec, performance may be degraded, but it will play.
If you are rooted, you can install ChainFire3D, which has a Tegra-2 plugin. If it works, you'll be able to run Tegrazone games.
I've not actually tried it on my Flyer as I have a Galaxy Tab 10.1 and Asus TF anyway, but did use it on my 7" Galaxy Tab and it worked fine.
Regards,
Dave
I have not sold my old Galaxy Tab 7 yet and I already have my shiny, new and rooted Tablet S.
I keep my movies on my networked media tank on my LAN and I stream movies to my tablets over the network within the house.
I managed to load the cifs.ko module and mount the network media player on both units. I use BS Player Lite on both units (although I have also tried mobo player and mx player on the Tablet S).
So here is my question: The Galaxy Tab is able to play even 1080p mkv's without breaking sweat, basically anything I can throw at it, whereas the Tablet S struggles with some of the 720p mkv's and cannot even start the 1080p ones without freezing. Is this normal behaviour? Is it because the screen has a greater resolution and the Tablet S has to work so much harder than the 1024x600 Galaxy Tab?
The Tegra 2 CPU used in the Tablet S struggles with HD content encoded using H.264 and the High profile. It's a known limitation.
For videos you encode yourself using H.264/x264, you should use the Main profile.
For downloaded HD content that is already encoded using the high profile we're all out of luck
I usually use MX Player Pro on my tablet, but I've tried Dice Player and it is somewhat better at playing high profile stuff, so you may want to give that a try.
Thank you! I did not know this. So actually the hardware in this dualcore tablet is weaker than the 2-year-old Galaxy Tab? Or is this only a driver issue?
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Thank you! I did not know this. So actually the hardware in this dualcore tablet is weaker than the 2-year-old Galaxy Tab? Or is this only a driver issue?
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When it comes to HD video playback the Exynos 3110 CPU used in the Galaxy Tab has the upper hand, yes. I was a bit surprised to find out that the Tegra 2 wasn't better at video decoding myself. And no, AFAIK it's not just a driver issue, so it can't be fixed through software/firmware.
Heh. Thanks again! This is a real eye-opener. To tell you the truth it never occured to me to check whether a newer chipset / tablet would actually have lower performance than the previous generation. One would think they upped the resolution of these tablets to 1280x800 to meet 720p HD requirements....
I'm using Dice Player, it has HW acceleration.
I was mildly disappointed with the Sony's high-res Video playback capabilities after I also upgraded from my venerable GT-P1000 Galaxy Tab. Now I use MX Video Player and it seems to do alright, but the Sony's hardware accelerated mode as mentioned above is very finicky about its x264 video.
Also, even if an app claims to be hardware accelerated, chances are extremely good it's probably not. Built-in Hardware Acceleration won't go live until ICS and when video players use the "Hardware Decoding" option (note that its not the same), they just use the Sony's built-in chip and all the video players will deal with it pretty much the same.
real
I use Real Player and Mobo Player and have rarely any problems.
A help if you are having issues is to shut down all of the unneeded apps, clear out your ram and shut off the data connection.
When I start to play an AVI movie, Rockplayer asks if I want hardware or software to manage the file. Which is best on the Transformer Prime? What's the difference? Thanks for your help.
Depends on the codec, really. Use hardware if available; otherwise use software.
Also, 10-bit H.264 AVC does not decode well either hardware or software as of yet on Transformer.
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Depends on the codec, really. Use hardware if available; otherwise use software.
Also, 10-bit H.264 AVC does not decode well either hardware or software as of yet on Transformer.
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Thanks for your response. Both hardware and software seem to work, so I guess I'll use hardware. Thanks!
I mean, I just cant get how its possible that this phone's stock ROM and kernel have a decent MHL support, and a super customized ROM, like Cm, AOSP, AOKP (wich all of them include awesome tweaking capabilities....) doesn't have it?
I mean, most of the stock parameters appear on files that are editable on Notepad. So, is there any one referred to MHL setup? And so, why don´t you just "paste" it into the root of a custom non-stock ROM to get that feature available?
Today I got an "advance" in my hopeless quest on getting a decent MHL look on my phone (for those who read my older threads...). I recorded my phone screen using Screencast app on a Dead Trigger playing session (wich looks horrible on my HDTV through MHL...). I was expecting that the recording has a decent quality, but due to the S2 hardware capability, I could get an awesome, sharp and smooth looking recording of my game.
The surprise came, when I plugged my computer on the TV. The default output resolution is 1080p, and in the TV, it looks "too" sharp, with a little colour and quality loss. But in windows 7 I can change it, so I did it to 760 (or something like 764) and voilá, suddenly the screen was showing my desktop flawlessly (not losses of any kind), so I decided to watch the recording of the game in my pc through Skydrive... and the results shocked me. The quality was perfect. Super smooth, fast, awesome looking 3d graphics.
Now, thats a progress. A video in 1080p output resolution looks bad through DNLA, and HDMI out (on pc); the same on 764 looked perfect (and both were faaaar too better than the same video on MHL...)
So, it seems that lowering the MHL output to 764 would be a kick up on quality. Will be possible?? Only masters can talk...
Thanks for your time and hope you can bring your light on my research.
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I mean, I just cant get how its possible that this phone's stock ROM and kernel have a decent MHL support, and a super customized ROM, like Cm, AOSP, AOKP (wich all of them include awesome tweaking capabilities....) doesn't have it?
I mean, most of the stock parameters appear on files that are editable on Notepad. So, is there any one referred to MHL setup? And so, why don´t you just "paste" it into the root of a custom non-stock ROM to get that feature available?
Today I got an "advance" in my hopeless quest on getting a decent MHL look on my phone (for those who read my older threads...). I recorded my phone screen using Screencast app on a Dead Trigger playing session (wich looks horrible on my HDTV through MHL...). I was expecting that the recording has a decent quality, but due to the S2 hardware capability, I could get an awesome, sharp and smooth looking recording of my game.
The surprise came, when I plugged my computer on the TV. The default output resolution is 1080p, and in the TV, it looks "too" sharp, with a little colour and quality loss. But in windows 7 I can change it, so I did it to 760 (or something like 764) and voilá, suddenly the screen was showing my desktop flawlessly (not losses of any kind), so I decided to watch the recording of the game in my pc through Skydrive... and the results shocked me. The quality was perfect. Super smooth, fast, awesome looking 3d graphics.
Now, thats a progress. A video in 1080p output resolution looks bad through DNLA, and HDMI out (on pc); the same on 764 looked perfect (and both were faaaar too better than the same video on MHL...)
So, it seems that lowering the MHL output to 764 would be a kick up on quality. Will be possible?? Only masters can talk...
Thanks for your time and hope you can bring your light on my research.
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Roms like aokp and cm10 can't use mhl because of samsungs proprietary crap, so you need to use a stock based rom if you want mhl.
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Roms like aokp and cm10 can't use mhl because of samsungs proprietary crap, so you need to use a stock based rom if you want mhl.
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You men a copyright restriction?
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You men a copyright restriction?
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No, a lack of documentation on how to implement it is what I believe is the reason, I'm not a dev though.
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No, a lack of documentation on how to implement it is what I believe is the reason, I'm not a dev though.
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You are right. It is due to the parts being closed source and not part of the AOSP source code. Without this there is nothing the devs can do to make it work.
And exploring the phone's files? Maybe a trial or error test to find the MHL related parameter?
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And exploring the phone's files? Maybe a trial or error test to find the MHL related parameter?
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As this is very dependent on the kernel even if you could find the files without the proper kernel source code there is nothing they can do. Until it becomes part of the AOSP code there is little to no hope of it working properly
Now THIS is a progress:
http://mobility.forumsee.com/a/m/s/p12-9400-0110676--aokp-and-hdmi.html
It looks like a solution, just editing the build.prop
some ROM not supported HML as NFC
Actually, I added that line and now my phone is MHL compatible, although its ROM originally wasn't.
But only to play music and videos, nothing more shows on screen.
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