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I'm new to the Thunderbolt world. Previously learned all I know from my old OG Droid. Then relearned all from my Droid X. Now on a tbolt. Learned all about this now. Currently running das bamf 1.6.3 and loving it. Sure would love gingerbread but unsure how daily cm7 is.
Anyway my question is this whole bit about radios. I read thru the radio thread and many others but still unclear as to what/which I should be running. I took a screenshot of my settings/about page that shows my current radio.
I'm not in a 4g area. I have not had a single reboot since i got the phone 13 days ago. Been running bamf since 9 days ago. from what i can tell, I'm on the old radio but thats where i get confused. this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13093559&postcount=1 has different setups and i'm unsure of what one to go with or if it is even necessary to change anything.
Any help would be great. I've been a lurker here for over a year but never needed any help until now. got to get my post count up haha. Thanks guys.
pitchblack86 said:
I'm new to the Thunderbolt world. Previously learned all I know from my old OG Droid. Then relearned all from my Droid X. Now on a tbolt. Learned all about this now. Currently running das bamf 1.6.3 and loving it. Sure would love gingerbread but unsure how daily cm7 is.
Anyway my question is this whole bit about radios. I read thru the radio thread and many others but still unclear as to what/which I should be running. I took a screenshot of my settings/about page that shows my current radio.
I'm not in a 4g area. I have not had a single reboot since i got the phone 13 days ago. Been running bamf since 9 days ago. from what i can tell, I'm on the old radio but thats where i get confused. this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13093559&postcount=1 has different setups and i'm unsure of what one to go with or if it is even necessary to change anything.
Any help would be great. I've been a lurker here for over a year but never needed any help until now. got to get my post count up haha. Thanks guys.
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You're on the old radio, if you look in the baseband in the screenshot yours ends in r which is the stock version. The new one ends in w_1.
Im like you, i don't have 4G available to me either. I flashed radios and all i got was reboots. Flashed back to stock radio, reboots stopped, but tethering went to ****. I flashed the 2nd or 3rd radio down on the radio thread, an so far i have not had any reboots. So if its not broke, don't fix it, but if you must try the radios, do it in consecutive order down the list til you find one that works.
I really like the second radio from the top, it seemed to help my GPS lock on faster and I have a better signal. I also had issues of random reboots with the leaked new radio, so far with the second one on that page no reboots and increased performance.
Thanks guys. That's what I figured. Everything is working perfect...gps, calls, even 4G just worked driving thru easton pa. Nice to have everything working but addicted to this stuff lol.
Maybe I'll just leave well enough alone for now. Very happy with the tbolt but would love to see 2.3.3 or .4 with sense. Loving bamf remix but missing gingerbread from my Droid X. Damn phones. Wish I could have multiple haha.
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Figures. Soon as I go getting cocky, my gps starts acting up. If I go to Maps, it finds me just about instantly. However if I go to navigation and click maps or driving directions, it says searching for gps. After 2 minutes I just backed out of it. Nuts.
Gps (first time I tried navigation on 1.6.3) worked perfect on 1.6.1. Why would it come up instantly on maps but not nav? Damn. Downloaded all the posted radios. Hoping I didnt have to use any...
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Flashed all listed in link. Gps still says searching on every radio. Going with link 1 for now and see how it goes.
The last link in the link I posted is the stock radio/baseband, correct?
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I flashed the first radio on the list but it didn't update my LTE radio. Any thoughts why?
Unsure. I'm currently on the radio in link 1. Going great. Unsure of LTE changing. I don't have 4g here so I can't test if and how it works. Not sure how you check which LTE radio I have anyway... sorry I can't be more helpful.
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No matter what I do.. the software and build number don't change.
Thanks for the response.
Just got the Gingeritis Rom, which is a 2.1 sense 2.3.4 gingerbread Rom, and getting the radio to work properly was a pain.
Just noticed my 6 bar reception in Bamf changes from white and full at my house to none periodically. Seems like it does out for a second. Maybe time for stock kernel again...
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pitchblack86 said:
Flashed all listed in link. Gps still says searching on every radio. Going with link 1 for now and see how it goes.
The last link in the link I posted is the stock radio/baseband, correct?
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Credit goes to: kejar31 over at XDA
(I didn't write this, but i cant find the thread that I found it in)
Download and flash the ImproveGPSlock.zip found here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?7ujg6lws6k8cosj
So my tbolt has been acting weird lately. I am using synergy ROM with 2.5 radio and have never had any real issues. These past 3 days however my phone has not been cooperating well. When charging it will sometimes turn off and will not turn back on for a while. Also when I did get it turned on this morning I had 4g for a short amount of time then it went away. I now only have 3g and want to have my 4g back. Does anyone know if greensboro NC has no 4G today? And any solutions to my problem would be helpful!
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if you updated the newest Synergy, it runs off of the latest 2.11 build. that being the case, the 2.5 radio might not work very well with it and i suggest switching to the new 3.5 radio.
Not even sure if we have any choices here, but the new ICS leak has a weaker radio imao. I don't get as good of a connection in some places as before. Is there list of radios yet? Google no show here...
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Mine improved, a bit. Sorry.
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weak radio
Bronyr said:
Not even sure if we have any choices here, but the new ICS leak has a weaker radio imao. I don't get as good of a connection in some places as before. Is there list of radios yet? Google no show here...
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I noticed the same issues....strong on wifi at work but weak and slow at home and my mobile network suuucks...but i am happy to be ics'd finally....
I think the updated radio is improved. I was doing internet speed test against the OneS and it was just as fast if not faster than it. But WiFi (after testing for a day) is really shoddy. It's slow do upload anything data related after rebooting my router and modem. I get faster speeds with 4G on 2bars..lol
Wait....I sent this with Tapatalk?
sub'd. I'd like to see what everyone else has to say about the radio. Like I said in the other thread, I get terrible reception at work and I really don't want to make it worse.
I always get 3-full bars
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my wifi is tons stonger
The radio in this ICS ROM leak is definitely worse. I sit in the same place at work everyday, and where I usually use to get a consistent 4 bars, I get 0 - 2, and sometimes 4. It just fluctuates wayyyyyy too much. Data speeds may be a little faster, but if I have no signal, data doesn't do much good. Pings are much higher too.
Are there other options here. I'm not sure I can bare. My signal at home is not far inferior too, and I always had 3 - 4 bars, as I have the Cel-fi booster.
Double0EK said:
I think the updated radio is improved. I was doing internet speed test against the OneS and it was just as fast if not faster than it. But WiFi (after testing for a day) is really shoddy. It's slow do upload anything data related after rebooting my router and modem. I get faster speeds with 4G on 2bars..lol
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My wifi doesn't even work at all. Bummer.
I got a text today from T-Mobile saying that they have free signal boosters. Basically if you call them and say you have bad signal at home, they'll send you a signal booster free of charge. The catch? You need to live in a single family home, you need to have bad signal at home, and it'll reset your contract to 2 years from the day you request the signal booster.
(I just called and ordered mine earlier today)
Can you go back to the old radios?
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aiwapro said:
The radio in this ICS ROM leak is definitely worse. I sit in the same place at work everyday, and where I usually use to get a consistent 4 bars, I get 0 - 2, and sometimes 4. It just fluctuates wayyyyyy too much. Data speeds may be a little faster, but if I have no signal, data doesn't do much good. Pings are much higher too.
Are there other options here. I'm not sure I can bare. My signal at home is not far inferior too, and I always had 3 - 4 bars, as I have the Cel-fi booster.
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I can definitely second this. With the ICS radio, my signal is about half what it used to be in the office. I also have issues where I have signal and a data connection, but the phone will still not make/receive calls or txts until I recycle the radio or restart the phone. I suspect we'll see another firmware out before the official release. My guess is that this is the hold up for a final release since everything else seems pretty smooth - even wifi calling is working great at home.
ziggy46 said:
Can you go back to the old radios?
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normally, a radio version from a prior build will work on a newer build, but not in reverse. once you updated to ics, you can not use a gb radio afaik
example
on gb firmware, can use ics rom with gb radio
on ics firmware, have to use ics radio on gb/ics rom
needless to say, were stuck with the ics radio until they update it
Mines works great, although i flashed a radio from Android HD not sure if that worked well after super wipe.
Bronyr said:
Not even sure if we have any choices here, but the new ICS leak has a weaker radio imao. I don't get as good of a connection in some places as before. Is there list of radios yet? Google no show here...
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Yesterday I woke up, looked at my phone and it kept saying 4G with full bars..... tried to load facebook..... wouldn't load....
Turned phone off, then on..... service disappeared altogether
Battery Pulled x2
Started working..... at sh!tty speeds!
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mrmako777 said:
normally, a radio version from a prior build will work on a newer build, but not in reverse. once you updated to ics, you can not use a gb radio afaik
example
on gb firmware, can use ics rom with gb radio
on ics firmware, have to use ics radio on gb/ics rom
needless to say, were stuck with the ics radio until they update it
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LOL. Speak for yourself, I'm thinking about going back to my precious Energy Rom until the official update comes out.... or stock ics rom
mznatnat said:
Yesterday I woke up, looked at my phone and it kept saying 4G with full bars..... tried to load facebook..... wouldn't load....
Turned phone off, then on..... service disappeared altogether
Battery Pulled x2
Started working..... at sh!tty speeds!
W
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LOL. Speak for yourself, I'm thinking about going back to my precious Energy Rom until the official update comes out.... or stock ics rom
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Did you get throttled like I did? Cuz 3.6 is/was fast as Hell on my phone till the throttle hit
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kered424 said:
I got a text today from T-Mobile saying that they have free signal boosters. Basically if you call them and say you have bad signal at home, they'll send you a signal booster free of charge. The catch? You need to live in a single family home, you need to have bad signal at home, and it'll reset your contract to 2 years from the day you request the signal booster.
(I just called and ordered mine earlier today)
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That's the thing, I have had the booster for almost a year maybe, and it works pretty well, but since switching to this ICS leaked ROM, my signal is terrible, even with the booster.
I have S-On, HTC Dev Bootloader Unlock, T_Mobile ICS RUU leak. My Data improved and more consistent. I use to get anywhere between 2MB-4MB to now 8+MB. WiFi worked like usual. I haven't notice any signal loss(Knock on wood).
I was S-On before with HTC Dev Unlocked Bootloader. Then just re-locked it, flashed T-Mo ICS leak, flashed 4Ext Recovery, Su, then Busybox. All is well. Initial setup went through WiFi. So, I don't know, maybe just got lucky.
After many weeks of GPS not locking, or taking 5 plus minutes to lock on the recent leaked AT&T ICS ROM's I have found the problem. Not everybody has a problem, but many of you do.
No matter what I did, GPS simply wouldn't work. Flashing back to stock, re-flashing several ICS ROM's with complete wipes of the phone including EMMC and SD card did nothing. The last AT&T leak, as well as the official did nothing to fix the problem. As soon as I flashed back to sauROM or any gingerbread ROM, GPS would start working perfect, with 6 second lock, but back to ICS and GPS would quit again. Last week I finally found and fixed the problem. I flashed the radio from the gingerbread bread ROM on several ICS ROM's including the new official, and it's worked perfect for the last week. The UCLF5 leak and the New official AT&T ROM. I'm running Flapjaxxx ROM with no issues. GPS locks in under 10 seconds, LTE here in Tampa, FL signal strength is the same as is LTE giving me 21MB down and 12MB up, on this UCLA1 radio. Just because it's an older radio, doesn't mean performance is effected.
Flash with Odin (I'm using v1.85) Don't unzip/extract and place it in the phone space, NOT PDA
Make sure phone is in download mode and you have the samsung USB drivers installed.
Nice work, The quirky inconsistent ics- GPS behavior is consistent with your discovery. I've had Stellar gps on gingerbread, but i have yet to test the gps with my newly flashed cm9 rom. If i experience the degraded performance being reported, i will give your procedure a go. Thanks for taking the time to shareware your findings.
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Having had mostly good but sometimes quirky GPS since running Flapp ROM based off official ICS and having nothing better to do at 1am I gave this a try. I will say that on ICS I had either gotten a quick lock or it would take 15+ seconds to over 5 minutes for a lock and it varied with no pattern I could notice (reboots, charging status, time since last used, etc.). In another post I had noticed that my 'in use' satellites had decreased.
Initial results seem positive. Got more satellites 'in use' according to GPS test (compared to just prior to testing) and locks are back down to a couple seconds. Will be able to try it out again tomorrow after the phone has been on charge all night and I can drive with it. Maybe it's voodoo but If nothing else it doesn't seem to have worsened anything.
Urkk..
ATT
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Rogers :
GB stock modem fixed my gps problems
4. I717RUXLA2_phone_secure_Q1_ROGERS_REV_00_CL870799. tar.md5 (26.09 MB) PHONE FILE
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1657262
I flashed now mine shows no BB in the about phone. Is that normal?
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borijess said:
I flashed now mine shows no BB in the about phone. Is that normal?
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Yep, mine says same thing. I been using this modem for several days. No bugs on my end
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Looks like it fixed my GPS issues.
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Works!
StarLog said:
Looks like it fixed my GPS issues.
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Same here! I flashed the GB radio on top of Flapp's ICS official ROM and GPS locks like it did when I was on GB...awesome! This kind of reminds me of my Blackberry days, using different radios and even hybrid ones, lol.
I also claim this as fixing my problem. Thanks @ OP!!
Didn't work for me. I had to flash back to uclf6.
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Ok for two days using the Ops conf no change it still doesn't lock on under 16 minutes
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I have tried this on my last note and it did not make any difference. In the mean time at&t replaced my note and this new replacement seems to be working better so far. However, flashing this modem it takes a while to connect to lte network after reboot but once it connects it works fine.
i will report back tommorrow, need more time to test 2.3.6 UCLA1 modem.
after i flashed ucla1 radio, it locks really quick! then again, i always get fast locks after a reboot.
let see if it still fast locks tomorrow without the reboot.
Thanks a lot. I was having GPS issues where the connection time was taking at least 10mins or more and at that rate I'd reach my destination before I'd even get close to a solid lock. With this radio I am now getting 2 to 6 second GPS connections.
Works
I have been using this for a week... Even before the op posted. Locking satellites as it should when I was using ginger bread. No issue so far with xalls, text, or LTE. However, I found that during navigation with google nav, co pilot and waze. The tracking was drifted, lag behind. Not significant but you miss a turn if it freeze at the right moment. I kinda pissed that they screwed up one of the important function of the phone. Iused this daily so kinda frustrated. I meed to send complain to ATT and Samsung. Just wondered if ATT and Samsung are awared of thi issue.
I dot think its the modem I have tried it. I am on the official CM9 and GPS locks within seconds inside my house using the uclf6 modem.
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Thanks for the idea, lf5 working great for me.
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Just to verify the GB radio works great paired with Flapps ICS ROM (official), I tested it as I drove around the city today. I was getting instant locks and accuracy within 10'. I honestly get the GPS locks I did on GB! It really works on my device WITHOUT ANY ISSUES and as with all things, ymmv.
I've had my thunderbolt for over a year now and its been rooted for most of that time. Up until recently everything been working fine. I was running CM7, but for the past few weeks I haven't been able to get data when connected to 4G. The 4G icon shows up but is grayed out, but when I toggle airplane mode it turns blue but still does not work. My first though was that my radios were wrong so I flashed a bunch of different radios but none of those worked. Next I tried flashing a bunch of different roms (all AOSP because I hate sense), no help. I finally figured it was my SIM card so I got a replacement from verizon.
So none of this worked and on a whim I decided to flash a sense based rom, and 4G worked!
Is this a common problem with thunderbolts or does anybody have a fix for this? I really want to switch back to CM7 (running MIUI with no MMS right now).
EDIT: I forgot to mention, for some reason 4G data works on the MIUI rom I'm currently running. So for now I'm opting for speed over MMS.
For anyone interested my radios are currently:
LTE: 0.01.79.0331w_1
radio: 1.49.00.0406w_1
-Nex
Hello,
I have had my tbolt rooted for over a year as well, I am a flashaholic and never had a data problem, maybe u need to switch ur kernel, I'm on ziggys kernel and I've been on since it released and never had a problem, I never really changed my radio, hope this helps.
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There are 4G issues with AOSP, you get slower data speeds and for some reason my coverage recording maps don't record 4G properly when using AOSP. Sense works fine.
jonah1234 said:
Hello,
I have had my tbolt rooted for over a year as well, I am a flashaholic and never had a data problem, maybe u need to switch ur kernel, I'm on ziggys kernel and I've been on since it released and never had a problem, I never really changed my radio, hope this helps.
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I did switch to imosyens lean kernel on a few roms after things started acting up. I don't think my kernel is the issue though, seeing as I was running CM7 for so long with no problems.
–Nex
geoff5093 said:
There are 4G issues with AOSP, you get slower data speeds and for some reason my coverage recording maps don't record 4G properly when using AOSP. Sense works fine.
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Odd that it worked for so long and randomly crapped out. You wouldn't happen to know of any fix or work around to this problem, would you? I really just can't stand the notification menu and icons that come with sense.
–Nex