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and i have to say that it actually wasnt half bad.
one thing that i was kinda hoping not to be true was to feel the lesser speed which i did feel.
the LTE does seem promising. i got a full signal and i can't say that it was "blazing" fast on at&t's LTE, but it was great.
i could only imagine if it were an exynos chip how much more great it would be.
also, the vivid is a great phone for the cost. smooth, fast, and great in your hands.
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and i have to say that it actually wasnt half bad.
one thing that i was kinda hoping not to be true was to feel the lesser speed which i did feel.
the LTE does seem promising. i got a full signal and i can't say that it was "blazing" fast on at&t's LTE, but it was great.
i could only imagine if it were an exynos chip how much more great it would be.
also, the vivid is a great phone for the cost. smooth, fast, and great in your hands.
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So u felt a lag?
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So u felt a lag?
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yeah i did, but not much. i don't want ppl on here to go crazy denial on me like they did on my other post. lol
but i did feel it. but then again, i had my SGS2 oc'd to 1.5ghz. so it blew it away.
but at 1.2ghz, it was nearly the same. OG SGS2 a "little" faster.
but i was impressed. even though it has the same res as the SGS2, the screen wasn't horrible. put it like this: if you live in an LTE market and DONT have an OG SGS2 already, i'd get it. honestly.
plus, at&t is going to stop selling the OG SGS2 after nov. 6th.
but that's only at actual at&t stores, idk about like best buy, radioshack etc.
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plus, at&t is going to stop selling the OG SGS2 after nov. 6th.
but that's only at actual at&t stores, idk about like best buy, radioshack etc.
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Even in non-LTE markets? That seems doubtful to kill your flagship after a month. They still sell terrible phones, why stop selling the arguable best phone you offer?
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plus, at&t is going to stop selling the OG SGS2 after nov. 6th.
but that's only at actual at&t stores, idk about like best buy, radioshack etc.
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What is "OG" sgs2? Original?
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yeah OG is the original.
and dude idk!
i have no idea why they are going to stop selling it. it's messed up and we were all shocked about it.
they're even going to stop selling the atrix 2(which isn't great) but you get me?
i think it could only be in LTE markets, but still, it's the best phone we offer.
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plus, at&t is going to stop selling the OG SGS2 after nov. 6th.
but that's only at actual at&t stores, idk about like best buy, radioshack etc.
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whoa lol i work for best buy mobile and we haven't heard that yet if thats true damn haha can't wait to get my skyrocket
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yeah man it's wack.
but that's what it is.
i was totally dissapointed.
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plus, at&t is going to stop selling the OG SGS2 after nov. 6th.
but that's only at actual at&t stores, idk about like best buy, radioshack etc.
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Do you guys literally just make this stuff up? The company I work for pays about $1.5MM a year to AT&T and our corporate rep happened to be in today. We talked about LTE strategy, devices, and the merger. The strategy all along was to offer both phones as they appeal to different audiences. The ASGS2 actually has more features for corporate use (lock down) and is selling and expected to continue to sell well. They've offered aggressive corporate pricing since it launced and consider it a cornerstone phone for the corporate market.
Do you know how much it costs to launch a phone marketing wise, train staff to support it, and provide h/w service and replacements for two years after it's launched? It isn't like the Skyrocket snuck up on AT&T after they launched the ASGS2. If they didn't intend to sell both they never would have launched the ASGS2. So unless you know something that a major account rep doesn't it's hard to take what you said seriously.
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yeah man it's wack.
but that's what it is.
i was totally dissapointed.
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Does the lte sgs2 have an fm radio?
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Do you guys literally just make this stuff up? The company I work for pays about $1.5MM a year to AT&T and our corporate rep happened to be in today. We talked about LTE strategy, devices, and the merger. The strategy all along was to offer both phones as they appeal to different audiences. The ASGS2 actually has more features for corporate use (lock down) and is selling and expected to continue to sell well. They've offered aggressive corporate pricing since it launced and consider it a cornerstone phone for the corporate market.
Do you know how much it costs to launch a phone marketing wise, train staff to support it, and provide h/w service and replacements for two years after it's launched? It isn't like the Skyrocket snuck up on AT&T after they launched the ASGS2. If they didn't intend to sell both they never would have launched the ASGS2. So unless you know something that a major account rep doesn't it's hard to take what you said seriously.
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This.
Also, anyone who knows anything about marketing or brand management would know that to axe the ASGS2 after barely a month would be near-suicidal. Especially when the ASGS2 was touted as the rival to iPhone 4/4S and AT&T has been doing everything it can to wean itself off that dependency especially now that it's available on other carriers.
So far we've had... a dark horse who won't even identify himself, and a 3rd party retail-level employee do nothing but speculate.
BarryH_GEG said:
Do you guys literally just make this stuff up? The company I work for pays about $1.5MM a year to AT&T and our corporate rep happened to be in today. We talked about LTE strategy, devices, and the merger. The strategy all along was to offer both phones as they appeal to different audiences. The ASGS2 actually has more features for corporate use (lock down) and is selling and expected to continue to sell well. They've offered aggressive corporate pricing since it launced and consider it a cornerstone phone for the corporate market.
Do you know how much it costs to launch a phone marketing wise, train staff to support it, and provide h/w service and replacements for two years after it's launched? It isn't like the Skyrocket snuck up on AT&T after they launched the ASGS2. If they didn't intend to sell both they never would have launched the ASGS2. So unless you know something that a major account rep doesn't it's hard to take what you said seriously.
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Hey smartass, yeah you. Ill have documentation for you tmrw. They're gonna stop selling those phones in Houston for sure to advertise the LTE market. There's making.g things up here Guy. But its okay, one day you'll come to reality instead of a
Jake niece business Rep.
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This.
Also, anyone who knows anything about marketing or brand management would know that to axe the ASGS2 after barely a month would be near-suicidal. Especially when the ASGS2 was touted as the rival to iPhone 4/4S and AT&T has been doing everything it can to wean itself off that dependency especially now that it's available on other carriers.
So far we've had... a dark horse who won't even identify himself, and a 3rd party retail-level employee do nothing but speculate.
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Lol and yet here is another one who follows in footsteps of true specation. Do you really this.k I'd take the time to really make up the fact that they aren't selling the phones anymore here? If you haven't noticed, at&t's pride is much more on the LTE market rather than the a rial phone. But okay, you're right. I told you guys abput the skyrocket being a wack snapdragon, and ill tell you.again.about this.
All I wanted to do by getting.on.this forum is to become an android fan even more, and help inform you guys a bit more. But maybe.I was wrong and you all know things I.don't eh?
So much for the xda "noob" video explaining how rudeness and all that other junk.ain't allowed.
How bout this, stick.to my posts, and I guarantee that I will provide you.all with every at&t phone.spec for the new future there is. Lol
Honestly.
All I wanna say is, don't doubt, or actually, don't denounce my intelligence until I have provided you all with false information.
Thanks.
** and for the Guy up there, there's no FM RADIO-STOCK.
like I said, STOCK, there is no radio.
Just wanna be clear and correct for the make-believers.
They don't sell the OG S2 in California corporate stores, but I don't know if the Skyrocket is the reason.
No its not. Corporate stores will only order them for you. But starting this wknd even that is going to be to an end. :/
It already sucked that they never sold em in stores. Well, corporate stores. Lol.
I've learned to be very clear around here.
Maybe they're just taking their original SGS2's and replacing them with their new LTE chip, so that way, they're not necessarily restocking or anything...
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Hey smartass, yeah you. Ill have documentation for you tmrw. They're gonna stop selling those phones in Houston for sure to advertise the LTE market. There's making.g things up here Guy. But its okay, one day you'll come to reality instead of a
Jake niece business Rep.
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I'd like to see this documentation.
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Lol and yet here is another one who follows in footsteps of true specation. Do you really this.k I'd take the time to really make up the fact that they aren't selling the phones anymore here? If you haven't noticed, at&t's pride is much more on the LTE market rather than the a rial phone. But okay, you're right. I told you guys abput the skyrocket being a wack snapdragon, and ill tell you.again.about this.
All I wanted to do by getting.on.this forum is to become an android fan even more, and help inform you guys a bit more. But maybe.I was wrong and you all know things I.don't eh?
So much for the xda "noob" video explaining how rudeness and all that other junk.ain't allowed.
How bout this, stick.to my posts, and I guarantee that I will provide you.all with every at&t phone.spec for the new future there is. Lol
Honestly.
All I wanna say is, don't doubt, or actually, don't denounce my intelligence until I have provided you all with false information.
Thanks.
** and for the Guy up there, there's no FM RADIO-STOCK.
like I said, STOCK, there is no radio.
Just wanna be clear and correct for the make-believers.
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Dude, you haven't given proof of -anything- you've said over the past day or two. Nothing. No pictures of the new phone, no docs suggesting they're even thinking of completely removing the i777 from the market. How the hell can you even think that they would completely remove one of the -best- phones on the market?
As far as I, and many others can tell, you're just speculating on what will happen. There is no way you can know these things if you're a normal ATT employee. If every normal level employee knew this, there would have been massive leaks of this info as soon as they found out. And I -highly- doubt you're some top-level employee by the way you write and the way you're addressing everyone else.
There isn't even any documentation that you even work for ATT, I even find that hard to believe.
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Do you guys literally just make this stuff up? The company I work for pays about $1.5MM a year to AT&T and our corporate rep happened to be in today. We talked about LTE strategy, devices, and the merger. The strategy all along was to offer both phones as they appeal to different audiences. The ASGS2 actually has more features for corporate use (lock down) and is selling and expected to continue to sell well. They've offered aggressive corporate pricing since it launced and consider it a cornerstone phone for the corporate market.
Do you know how much it costs to launch a phone marketing wise, train staff to support it, and provide h/w service and replacements for two years after it's launched? It isn't like the Skyrocket snuck up on AT&T after they launched the ASGS2. If they didn't intend to sell both they never would have launched the ASGS2. So unless you know something that a major account rep doesn't it's hard to take what you said seriously.
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I can confirm this as well. My rep told me the same thing, the SGS2 is selling very well for AT&T and there are no plans to stop selling it.
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Hey smartass, yeah you. Ill have documentation for you tmrw. They're gonna stop selling those phones in Houston for sure to advertise the LTE market. There's making.g things up here Guy. But its okay, one day you'll come to reality instead of a
Jake niece business Rep.
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I'd love to see this proof you speak of.
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Lol and yet here is another one who follows in footsteps of true specation. Do you really this.k I'd take the time to really make up the fact that they aren't selling the phones anymore here?
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Yes, I do. Judging from your overly emotional response to posts that question the validity of your claims.
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If you haven't noticed, at&t's pride is much more on the LTE market rather than the a rial phone. But okay, you're right. I told you guys abput the skyrocket being a wack snapdragon, and ill tell you.again.about this.
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What does pride have to do with it? They will market LTE heavily in the areas that have, but they will not discontinue a phone that sells well to force people onto LTE. The store reps will BS the consumer into thinking the LTE phone is the greatest thing in the world.
Um... When did you tell us about the skyrocket being a "wack" snapdragon? Everyone correct me if I am wrong, but didn't information from sites/press release and the fact that the phone is out in Korea indicate the specs? Also let us not forget the fact that qualcomm will not or doesn't have to capability built in to offer an LTE solution that doesn't use their chips.
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Dude, you haven't given proof of -anything- you've said over the past day or two. Nothing. No pictures of the new phone, no docs suggesting they're even thinking of completely removing the i777 from the market. How the hell can you even think that they would completely remove one of the -best- phones on the market?
As far as I, and many others can tell, you're just speculating on what will happen. There is no way you can know these things if you're a normal ATT employee. If every normal level employee knew this, there would have been massive leaks of this info as soon as they found out. And I -highly- doubt you're some top-level employee by the way you write and the way you're addressing everyone else.
There isn't even any documentation that you even work for ATT, I even find that hard to believe.
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OK, #1, yes I know the forum rules (Not to bash, keep it clean, no religious stuff............) and I have not in my years here, broke them! BUT, I feel every now and then, I should be entiled to a free one? Today is that day!!
I say f**k Sprint! I was over at SprintFeed.com and Sprint has announced the EOL (End of Life) for Photon next month! I will tell you exactly why this pisses me off!!
#1 (Yea I know #1 is above, im starting over!). I went out and got the damm Evo for $500.00 summer of 2010. Last summer, Sprint blasted the TV with the Evo 3D but only one or 2 commercials for Photon. Photon, IMO, was and is, 100 times better than3D in every way, But Sprint blasted the damm Evo. I dont need a toy, I need a bussiness phone that will assist me in getting the job done. So I pay $638.00, no contract for Photon with 4G August 2, 2011.
#2. I work in IT, I have million $$$ ideas all the time, but it takes me 6 months to a year before anything actually gets done (plan, summary, approval, check, delivery) Therefore, with the November announcement of LTE, they knew damm right well when get got our phones, many of us, me included, did not have 4G and never would have it!! So the sales was entierly a lie!!!! (And to be honest, I cannot recall a TV commercial after August but I still see crap for the toy 3D!)
#3. If end of life is next month, then Q3 ICS is more smoke getting blown up our a**es!!
#4. With this announcement, my $638.00 Photon just became a worthless paperweight! Why? How much are you willing to pay me for my Photon, knowing that if it breaks or f**k's up one week later, your SOL? Seriously? This goes for anything in life! Would you pay top dollar for a I.B.M Thinkpad you know I.B.M no longer supports? NO!!!!
#5. Why is the original Evo still supported, but we did not even get a year? How come everyone got unlocked bootloader and ROM's out the a**? What did we get? Not a damm thing!!! (The development team here worked hard, but Sprint showed no support for them at all!!!)
#6. Also on SprintFeed.com, HTC and Sprint have big announcement April 4th where it is expected they will announce the new EVO for June 10th release date. If the spec's are whats expected, I will jump ship. Whats that gonna cost me?
#7. All so on that website, Wall Street had lowered the boom on Sprint. This means 2 things. They don't have the money they claim they have and could go bankrupt. and what happens to the LTE project and will I ever see 4G?
I just think, IMO, that this is a complete slap in the face to every Photon owner!!!
End of Rant!!
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#4. With this announcement, my $638.00 Photon just became a worthless paperweight!
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Huh, that's so weird, my Photon is still working great. I hope the devs here at XDA can come up with some kind of mod that blocks the worthless paperweight update.
Its not that serious bro, its just a phone. I love my photon and there's nothing sprint can do to change that.
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Dude!!!..... I can't complain abut my Photon, the 4 months or so it has been with me has NEVER let me down one bit, to this day it is the BEST phone I have ever owned, the international capabilities which I was finally able to try on a trip to Mexico last week made me love it even more. I was able to use a Telcel Sim card and used all the features in my phone with no problems no errors no nothing.
(Actually to my surprise Telcel's 3G speeds are awesome compared to Sprint's)
But sadly every phones has an EOL and technology is improving every second..
I don't really see the point of even have a fit about it LOL
Seeing that I no longer work for Sprint I have no issue saying this. Sprint half-assed the handling of the Photon since day one. Considering Sprint's history with Moto Android phones they had no faith in Moto's product and made no real effort to support or push the Photon. This started before the phone was ever released.
Sprint had the update fix for the silent call bug over a month PRIOR to the release of the Photon. Instead of pushing the update on launch day they held off for a month before releasing the fix. So you have a new phone with a major bug that didn't get fixed til after the crucial launch month window had passed. Result, a new phone that doesn't work for enough people to kill sales.
Sprint advertising and sales training was also almost nonexistant. In many cases it was "and Moto makes phones too but who cares" kind of approach. I had setup a live WebTop display running Firefox streaming HULU in the store I worked in. Customers thought it was the Evo 3D and didn't even know the Photon even existed. The first response when told it wasn't the 3D was "Yeh but the 3D can do that too." and very rarely could you convince them otherwise.
In short, Sprint could care less if they ever sell another Moto Android phone and have treated the Photon with that mindset from the start. They can now go back to Moto and say "Look, your crappy phone doesn't sell so no Sprint for you."
Just because it will reach EOL status doesn't mean a whole lot to me. I started with the original Droid on Verizon and EOL was reached a loooong time ago on it and a small update was recently available for it! And there is still development going on for it as well. As long as we have some good devs that still care about it, EOL status is irrelevant.
oh well, fun while it lasted, i upgraded to the photon over my OG evo, loved it since day one, i recently went back to my EVO 3D, so when the ICS update comes out (as promised i hope) i'll update my photon and go back to it, but when it's completely gone, all i'll say is, i have a rare sprint phone (just like my echo) that not a lot of people have, and wait for the newest smartphone to come out
You do realize that all Wimax phones will be going EOL come about Summer when lte launches. And everybody else is right EOL just means they start to pull inventory from the stores no biggie. like the evo shift, epic, nexus, and trender i work at a store and we haven't gotten a shipment for them in 2 weeks and we are out.
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Agreed
As I'm sure MOST people who own a MoPho agree, this phone needs much more love from the dev community, I love this phone in it's natural form! I had an OG Evo 4G and modding it was the only thing I could do to keep it up and running. This phone KILLS IT out of the box! The Tegra 2 is incredibly smooth.
I really want ICS for it, but I'll have this MoPho for A LOT longer than my crap EVO.
Signed,
A faithful first time Moto owner
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Also, If this phone IS EOL soon, does that mean it WILL get unlocked? Just curious if they didn't care about a phone anymore, they would UNLOCK the bootloader for us.
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Also, If this phone IS EOL soon, does that mean it WILL get unlocked? Just curious if they didn't care about a phone anymore, they would UNLOCK the bootloader for us.
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Nope. It means no updates,support or unlock from official channels. Sprint will still repair/replace it but short of PRL and critical security updates, the phone doesn't exist to Sprint after the EOL date. I'd also expect this to kill the ICS update as well as it will not have passed Sprint's internal "QC and testing" and I do not believe Moto has authorization for a direct push.
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Nope. It means no updates,support or unlock from official channels. Sprint will still repair/replace it but short of PRL and critical security updates, the phone doesn't exist to Sprint after the EOL date. I'd also expect this to kill the ICS update as well as it will not have passed Sprint's internal "QC and testing" and I do not believe Moto has authorization for a direct push.
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I really hope that's not true - since they've officially announced the ICS update for the Photon, I would hope they keep their word. Although I've been frustrated with all the dead links throughout the forums here, I have been still very happy with the Photon vs the Evo so far, it's an amazing device.
Sprint's got me barely hanging on by halving my bill while the network upgrades supposedly happen -- but if speeds don't increase and awesome devices like this aren't supported, I'll be joining the hordes jumping ship to Verizon.
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No religious stuff? Everyone knows Jesus is the way! If ya don't l, he is!
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I hope this works out for Sprint. In two years, no iDen or WiMax networks. That should greatly cut costs.
I use to love Sprint, but now it's just like they're in the business of hooking you in for the business and then coming up with ways to increase your bill. I use to have 5 lines, all qualified for the company discount, then only 2, and now only 1. I've transferred my phone over to Google, so that moving forward I can switch between companies with minimal inconveniences. Sprint essentially has no high-end world phones....
OK, Most of you are missing the entire point! I have NO problems with my Photon. I LOVE MY PHONE!!!
Go back and read post #5 and #10 by lokifish Marz. Sprint s**t on this phone from day 1!! I said it in my OP, he confirmed it as a ex-Sprint empolyee!!!
I will tell you a funny story. August 20th 2011 my power button fell out, so I had to use my finger nail to cut it on/off. Me and 2 co-workers took it to Sprint at the Garden State Plaza on RT4 in New Jersey. Chick tells me, "I have one of the tech look at it!" No problem. This idiot comes from the back and the first thing out of his mouth, "Have you had this phone for 30 days or less?" Just like lokifish Marz said, no training and no marketing!
As for XDA Development, most of the heavy hitters have jump ship and do cleanup work here (which we are thankful!)
Now the new EVO is something to brag about, no doubt. But August 1st of 2011, This was by far the best phone available from ANY carrier, and Sprint gave it no love!
EOL would kinda suck as I was planning to keep this until March when my contract is up, then re-evaluate if I want to keep Sprint.
On the other hand, I do remember back in September the Evo 4g was on the EOL list for October. It still has not gone EOL. Then again that was a far more popular phone.
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On the other hand, I do remember back in September the Evo 4g was on the EOL list for October. It still has not gone EOL. Then again that was a far more popular phone.
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Its back on the list for "Early April". I dont get why EVO 3D is not on the list and Photon is?
Before getting the Photon, I had a Droid Eris on Verizon and I went through the same thing. Thanks to the xda devs and community, I was able to squeeze 2 years out of it. Before rooting and loading a custom rom, using the phone was a nightmare.
I guess I'm getting used to, and have the unfortunate luck, of buying the devices that receive the least support down the road. I chose Sprint, because I thought they were somehow less evil than Verizon but corporations will be corporations.
I still hope the Photon will have a long life after losing official support. I love the phone itself.
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Before getting the Photon, I had a Droid Eris on Verizon and I went through the same thing. Thanks to the xda devs and community, I was able to squeeze 2 years out of it. Before rooting and loading a custom rom, using the phone was a nightmare.
I guess I'm getting used to, and have the unfortunate luck, of buying the devices that receive the least support down the road. I chose Sprint, because I thought they were somehow less evil than Verizon but corporations will be corporations.
I still hope the Photon will have a long life after losing official support. I love the phone itself.
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This sounds very familiar to me, except for me it was the Palm Pre instead of the Droid Eris. I'm starting to think I'm a curse - if I like a phone, prepare for it to turn into a stepchild and let the bitterness begin. Maybe I should go buy an iPhone and see if I can kill it...
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Maybe I should go buy an iPhone and see if I can kill it...
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Go for it! haha!
abrcrmdl23 said:
You do realize that all Wimax phones will be going EOL come about Summer when lte launches. And everybody else is right EOL just means they start to pull inventory from the stores no biggie. like the evo shift, epic, nexus, and trender i work at a store and we haven't gotten a shipment for them in 2 weeks and we are out.
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you feel the Nexus is a good upgrade from coming EVO?
http://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-titan-att/software-updates
By this article it looks like HTC is taking efforts to update our phone to 8773 Tango, well better anything than nothing, what i am hoping is to finally get some changes in bootloader after instaling this update
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http://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-titan-att/software-updates
By this article it looks like HTC is taking efforts to update our phone to 8773 Tango, well better anything than nothing, what i am hoping is to finally get some changes in bootloader after instaling this update
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It is possible that this update needs to proceed before upgrading to 7.8? Seeing that ATT failed at life by not pushing the Tango update to its customers -or any update, HTC could be picking up the slack here with this. 7.8 has NOT been announced yet...so that is probably why they have not introduced it yet on their website.
All this is opinionated though...I would hope that HTC pushes out 7.8 to the Titans...just saying, their are more Titan 1 owners than Titan 2's. There would be a lot of angry folks out there if they didn't.
OR this could be another LG kind of like thing. But I highly doubt that seeing HTC pushed out many WP's during its lifetime.
Let's wait and see what happens. If it turns out that they are only pushing out Tango... I guess it'll be time to bring out the pitchforks.
hehe i just wonder if people from USA can check if the update exist, since i am in europe region and thats the problem, i mailed HTC and they said that in some regions Microsoft pushed update, HTC is just anouncer the one that is pushing update is Microsoft, i just apel on som USA folks with stock cingular rom on 7740 with at&t titan to check via Zune for update. THX
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hehe i just wonder if people from USA can check if the update exist, since i am in europe region and thats the problem, i mailed HTC and they said that in some regions Microsoft pushed update, HTC is just anouncer the one that is pushing update is Microsoft, i just apel on som USA folks with stock cingular rom on 7740 with at&t titan to check via Zune for update. THX
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I am in Dallas Texas and contacted AT&T yesterday regarding this update and they told me to contact HTC, HTC said to contact AT&T. Both contact eforts were through email or online chat. I just had my phone replaced under warranty and have the service groups phone number due to issues I am having. I will contact them via phone and ask the same questions.
Nothing comes up in Zune for the update.
Definately a dissapointment if nothing happens. I want and need the first update and then of course 7.8 update.
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I am in Dallas Texas and contacted AT&T yesterday regarding this update and they told me to contact HTC, HTC said to contact AT&T. Both contact eforts were through email or online chat. I just had my phone replaced under warranty and have the service groups phone number due to issues I am having. I will contact them via phone and ask the same questions.
Nothing comes up in Zune for the update.
Definately a dissapointment if nothing happens. I want and need the first update and then of course 7.8 update.
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This is what happens when you contact customer support. No one knows what the hell is going on half the time, especially petty customer support people -like you talked to. The customer support side is the LAST to know about important information. It's sad, but true.
I guarantee you that I had the same exact thing happen to me when I was trying to find out if Tango was going to be pushed out to our phones. I was told to contact HTC by ATT and vice versa. Same old blah blah. It was a never ending cycle that just made me angry even more. Word of advice: don't bother contacting them unless you have an issue with your phone. Nothing but lies and workarounds by uninformed customer support people.
Anyway, just sit tight for the real information...it's pretty much all you can do right now.
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This is what happens when you contact customer support. No one knows what the hell is going on half the time, especially petty customer support people -like you talked to. The customer support side is the LAST to know about important information. It's sad, but true.
I guarantee you that I had the same exact thing happen to me when I was trying to find out if Tango was going to be pushed out to our phones. I was told to contact HTC by ATT and vice versa. Same old blah blah. It was a never ending cycle that just made me angry even more. Word of advice: don't bother contacting them unless you have an issue with your phone. Nothing but lies and workarounds by uninformed customer support people.
Anyway, just sit tight for the real information...it's pretty much all you can do right now.
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Wait and Wait and wait some more... spoke to customer service today via the phone and it was less than productive. I had to take her to HTC's webpage where HTC talks about the update. Left it for her to chase and call me back. Called while I was in the shower and they said HTC wanted to push the update to my phone but couldn't because there was no release date on the update, the next best option was for me to remove Zune and reinstall it and then check for an update. Did that and nothing.
Frustrated... my thinking is we won't get any satisfaction. Not sure what to do at this point. Phone works with the exception of the keybard issue that drives us all nuts and then the call quality.
I have had two Tilt phones, a Fuze and even though I have one Titan, I warrantied it out about 5 times now and coninually request the same phone but beginning to doubt my reasoning. It may be time for a new carrier and a different phone manufacturer. I've been a customer of AT&T since cell phones first came out (late 70's early 80's?) and a customer of HTC's for maybe 5 years. Which means nothing.
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http://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-titan-att/software-updates
By this article it looks like HTC is taking efforts to update our phone to 8773 Tango, well better anything than nothing, what i am hoping is to finally get some changes in bootloader after instaling this update
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I realize this is aggravating for many and I too had AT&T and own two Titan I. We're now with Straight Talk (AT&T Network). My device is Interop/Developer Unlocked so I update the "XDA" way; my wife's device remains like all of yours...from 7720 to 8773 can be done in increments via Cab Sender. It doesn't matter what device you're using; this is simply the Operating System itself. The following link will get y'all started.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736982
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Wait and Wait and wait some more... spoke to customer service today via the phone and it was less than productive. I had to take her to HTC's webpage where HTC talks about the update. Left it for her to chase and call me back. Called while I was in the shower and they said HTC wanted to push the update to my phone but couldn't because there was no release date on the update, the next best option was for me to remove Zune and reinstall it and then check for an update. Did that and nothing.
Frustrated... my thinking is we won't get any satisfaction. Not sure what to do at this point. Phone works with the exception of the keybard issue that drives us all nuts and then the call quality.
I have had two Tilt phones, a Fuze and even though I have one Titan, I warrantied it out about 5 times now and coninually request the same phone but beginning to doubt my reasoning. It may be time for a new carrier and a different phone manufacturer. I've been a customer of AT&T since cell phones first came out (late 70's early 80's?) and a customer of HTC's for maybe 5 years. Which means nothing.
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Yes exactly...this is what you are gonna get every time. HTC doesn't know what is going on because ATT was "supposed" to push out the updates..but didn't. -In fact ATT failed at pushing out the Tango update to about 85% of their phones. I think HTC only handles firmware and bootloader updates as ATT handles the OS updates. Updating your phone through the cab sender will fix the keyboard problem. As for the call quality, this is not going to get fixed unless they push out another radio firmware -which they haven't and probably never will.
Anyway, be patient. I am sure 7.8 will be announced soon by either MS or HTC/ATT. Everybody on ATT feels your frustration...and I'm sure ATT loses quite a few sales with this. But remember, in spite of our frustration, the company will never change its standards with this. Every carriers goal is to make $$ and updating customer phones does provide this for them. It however may provide customer satisfaction, but we all know ATT doesn't care about this at all. They would much rather you go buy a new phone to better suit your needs. It's plain and simple capitalism in your hands.
I too have thought about switching carriers before, unfortunately there are perks to having ATT than any other carriers. Especially in Texas...Example, I currently live in San Antonio, but I used to live in a small rural Texas town where some of my family still reside. This town and the surrounding towns only have small radio towers that power only ATT radio frequencies. Getting service from other carriers such as Verizon or Sprint which operate CDMA frequencies is next to impossible. I'm sure I would be able to get 2g bands if I had T-Mobile...but it is something I don't want to risk. Well anyway...I'm sure I don't have to go on with the example as you are from Texas also.
Another perk is the device lineup compared the other carriers. I'm sure you can relate to this also....
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Yes exactly...this is what you are gonna get every time. HTC doesn't know what is going on because ATT was "supposed" to push out the updates..but didn't. -In fact ATT failed at pushing out the Tango update to about 85% of their phones. I think HTC only handles firmware and bootloader updates as ATT handles the OS updates. Updating your phone through the cab sender will fix the keyboard problem. As for the call quality, this is not going to get fixed unless they push out another radio firmware -which they haven't and probably never will.
Anyway, be patient. I am sure 7.8 will be announced soon by either MS or HTC/ATT. Everybody on ATT feels your frustration...and I'm sure ATT loses quite a few sales with this. But remember, in spite of our frustration, the company will never change its standards with this. Every carriers goal is to make $$ and updating customer phones does provide this for them. It however may provide customer satisfaction, but we all know ATT doesn't care about this at all. They would much rather you go buy a new phone to better suit your needs. It's plain and simple capitalism in your hands.
I too have thought about switching carriers before, unfortunately there are perks to having ATT than any other carriers. Especially in Texas...Example, I currently live in San Antonio, but I used to live in a small rural Texas town where some of my family still reside. This town and the surrounding towns only have small radio towers that power only ATT radio frequencies. Getting service from other carriers such as Verizon or Sprint which operate CDMA frequencies is next to impossible. I'm sure I would be able to get 2g bands if I had T-Mobile...but it is something I don't want to risk. Well anyway...I'm sure I don't have to go on with the example as you are from Texas also.
Another perk is the device lineup compared the other carriers. I'm sure you can relate to this also....
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Point well taken and I have thought about that. I am just generally honked off at the lack of customer service for someone with the tenure I have.
I have a thought... Like most owners of Titan phones, we have had them about a year maybe less. For me it will be a year sometime in December. Like most, I signed a two-year contract.
My thought is this, that contract (I am sure I can find it laying around somewhere and read it... for the first time) surely states what we are expected to do and what they are expected to do. If we all bought phones that AT&T no longer wants to support due to the OS being replaced (WP 8.xx) then they can replace my phone with a phone that is current in technology. My grounds for this would be, it is obvious that the updates to the OS have been available to other WindowsPhone devices but somehow AT&T has decided to ignore this release for some reason or another. Not sure if AT&T rolled these updates out to other phone but if they didn't, then this argument would be even stronger.
If I were to cancel my contract today, AT&T would enforce the penalty or charge back or whatever you want to call it. However, we have phones that are not up to date according to the current release available for the WP7.xx platform. This is flat wrong and may be a pursuable argument.
Thoughts????
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I have a thought... Like most owners of Titan phones, we have had them about a year maybe less. For me it will be a year sometime in December. Like most, I signed a two-year contract.
My thought is this, that contract (I am sure I can find it laying around somewhere and read it... for the first time) surely states what we are expected to do and what they are expected to do. If we all bought phones that AT&T no longer wants to support due to the OS being replaced (WP 8.xx) then they can replace my phone with a phone that is current in technology. My grounds for this would be, it is obvious that the updates to the OS have been available to other WindowsPhone devices but somehow AT&T has decided to ignore this release for some reason or another. Not sure if AT&T rolled these updates out to other phone but if they didn't, then this argument would be even stronger.
If I were to cancel my contract today, AT&T would enforce the penalty or charge back or whatever you want to call it. However, we have phones that are not up to date according to the current release available for the WP7.xx platform. This is flat wrong and may be a pursuable argument.
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It is possible that this argument could be relevant...however, you may have to look at it from another standpoint that would make your argument have flaws. For instance, our devices are not the only devices that are not updated to current technology. -Meaning Android users that are still on Froyo, Gingerbread, ICS...etc could argue the same thing. I just want to point out that Android users have it slightly worse than us at this point, in which updates are "rarely" seen on these type of phones. Updates are pushed out from the OEMs to the carriers, but still the carriers refuse to forward the updates to the phones. I remember reading an article about Android phones and updates on a random tech site just recently. Basically it stated that updates to these types of phones on the US carriers are "very" limited and rare. Oh look I found the article!
http://news.discovery.com/tech/android-ice-cream-sandwich-jelly-bean-updates-121013.html
So with that said, I'm sure that if you tried to cancel your contract with them and enforced your argument you stated here, you will still be entitled to the penalty of canceling the contract. This maybe a different argument but I have seen where carriers have made people still pay the penalty charges even if a person has to cancel the contract due to legal/personal reasons (death, going out of the country, identity theft, etc). If I could give an analogy to contracts on phone carriers, they would be like "student loans." -Both entity's motto suggests "somebody has to pay for something."
Now going back on topic, if by some miracle ATT gave into this argument, I would be overwhelmingly surprised because millions of customers could do the same exact thing you wanted to do. Contracts with carriers are carefully worded to where loopholes like this can't happen.
Anyway, if you happen to try this argument of yours and it works, let me know. I would be right behind you on this! As a tech enthusiast, I am always wanting more -in terms of current technology. I consider my phone to be another piece of technology that I've personalized to enhance my own technology experiences. Most people who own phones, would have another viewpoint -which is basically just a "communication device." Since I've been on ATT ever since they merged with Cingular, I know abandoned updates on phones, such as in our situation, is extremely frustrating. A typical user who only uses the phone for means of communication would probably not even acknowledge that phones "have updates" that enhance the user experience. But then again, that is why I am here on XDA -to better myself with this. Ever since Windows Mobile 5, I've learned that if you want to enhance your experience with these devices this is the place to be. Over the years on this forum, I've learned that getting what you want and need for your phone is easier than it looks.
Anyway, I think this post is long enough. lol. If anybody else wants to chime in and explain some further reasoning of why this argument would not work...then be my guest. Till next time....
Omate keeps saying that they shipped all the Kickstarter USA editions already. But I have not gotten my Kickstarter Standard Nov watch yet, and they don't respond to emails nor give tracking numbers anymore, so I have no idea if it was shipped and got lost or if it's not yet shipped, nor do I have any way of finding this out.
Does anyone else stlll NOT have their Kickstarter Standard (Nov) USA edition watch yet? Does anyone know how the heck to actually have Omate respond to watch shipment inquiries?
Tony
They have announced that they will not respond to any shipping-related inquiries.
My 1/8/1900 Nov Dev edition ordered on the very last day of the kickstarter campaign arrived in early February. I may have been the first in the USA to get mine and the last to support thru KS. Odd. I had to sign for it, I got an email with a tracking number that worked, and the order was filled correctly !
Yours may have been overlooked and never shipped. If it was an early KS Dev edition with a numbered backplate, it is likely still on its way - a lot of people in the USA are just receiving those now and many are not getting tracking number emails due to, um, logistics issues...
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UGH! Then how will I ever get this watch? It's crazy really. It's like they stole my money for no product.
Well, they were getting tons of emails on all their exposed addresses mainly from folks upset about the shipping delays, over and over. So, instead of silently ignoring most of these, Omate just announced up front that they couldn't answer them all, at least at this point, and that they were not going to try. I look at that as more realistic and more near honest, though not encouraging.
I hope yours is delivered soon. It isn't much like what I backed, really, but it is a lot of fun and amazes people when I show it to them.
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Well, they were getting tons of emails on all their exposed addresses mainly from folks upset about the shipping delays, over and over. So, instead of silently ignoring most of these, Omate just announced up front that they couldn't answer them all, at least at this point, and that they were not going to try. I look at that as more realistic and more near honest, though not encouraging.
I hope yours is delivered soon. It isn't much like what I backed, really, but it is a lot of fun and amazes people when I show it to them.
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I hear you, but it's one thing to email about shipping delays. It's another when they say they shipped all Nov standard edition USA watches and I didn't get mine, so it obviously either got lost or they mistaken did NOT ship. In either case, I'll NEVER get it and have no way to communicate to them and they have my money with no way of getting it back (or the watch). I'm sorry, but this situation is ridiculous!! I could wait longer if I knew I was actually ever going to get it.
So back to the original question - is there anyone else who didn't get it yet from the Kickstarter Nov standard USA edition?
My TS was in transit for almost three weeks. You also need to keep in mind that the USPS is garbage and has been for some time now. They have let go almost 100,000 people over the past year or two, are billions of dollars in debt/defaults, closed multiple sorting centers and smaller post offices and are using sub-contractors in a number of places as well. Not to mention the increased reports of bogus "attempted delivery" attempts, not getting signatures and simply leaving packages where ever they feel like when they do deliver. So Omate may be to blame for some stuff but they are not the only ones.
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My TS was in transit for almost three weeks. You also need to keep in mind that the USPS is garbage and has been for some time now. They have let go almost 100,000 people over the past year or two, are billions of dollars in debt/defaults, closed multiple sorting centers and smaller post offices and are using sub-contractors in a number of places as well. Not to mention the increased reports of bogus "attempted delivery" attempts, not getting signatures and simply leaving packages where ever they feel like when they do deliver. So Omate may be to blame for some stuff but they are not the only ones.
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Irrespective of the quality of the USPS, it's RIDICULOUS that Omate does not send out even any notification of when it was shipped just so I know that it was shipped. Right now, I have NO IDEA if my $200+ watch & accessories were lost in the mail somewhere or someone stole it off my front porch or if they lost my order with no intention of ever sending it. OMATE NEEDS TO GIVE ME THIS INFORMATION - no one else can. Sorry - but until they do it is THEIR fault entirely. I have no way of knowing. And since I cannot find a single Nov USA standard addition backer who has NOT received it yet, I have to think this has gotten either physically lost in transit or they lost my order info.
I have NO IDEA how to find this out. I'm not sure why people here are defending Omate for this ridiculous and completely unacceptable lack of communication. I can wait if it's still coming - I just need to know what happened to mine if everyone else got theirs.
Have you tried emailing them a civil request for tracking info carefully explaining your situation? Maybe even have the subject read "Order possibility lost during shipping, need info". And just some friendly advice, being a jerk will get you no where with them and probably get your email ignored.
BTW. Check your attitude buddy. If you think I'm an Omate defender then you have clearly been living in a cave the past 8 months.
He's likely referring to me, Lokifish. I told him about Omate's recent announcement that they were overwhelmed with emails from upset backers and would go officially into Ignore Them mode.
I was glad Omate at least admitted this publicly instead of continuing to conceal it, but it sure freezes out people like Tones2 who have a real and serious need to get in touch with Omate over delivery issues.
Now we are finding that the last batch of numbered Dev editions had at least a few shipped with the cheaper lower ram and storage early EU versions. I bet these are ones that were left over after Omate tried to sell them into various distributors for resell.
If they distribute the next update with the security still totally fckd, that would be approaching a total shut out game.
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Have you tried emailing them a civil request for tracking info carefully explaining your situation? Maybe even have the subject read "Order possibility lost during shipping, need info". And just some friendly advice, being a jerk will get you no where with them and probably get your email ignored.
BTW. Check your attitude buddy. If you think I'm an Omate defender then you have clearly been living in a cave the past 8 months.
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Well, this is just recently acquired attitude. I was not one of those people blasting Omate for not meeting their initial delivery dates and was (and still am) perfectly willing to wait over 6 months for this watch. I totally understand the delays, personnel issues of a small start up, and initial buginess of the product. However, after they publically announce that they have shipped all of the USA watches, and then publically announce that they are not going to send out any shipping info nor respond to any emails whatsoever, and after I sent them 3 or 4 very polite emails inquiring what happen to MY watch if they shipped all USA kickstarter models (with a subject similar to what you suggested) all with zero response from them, then yes I start to get REALLY PISSED OFF. I think this is justified.
Do I have any recourse with reporting this situation to Kickstarter? At this point, I don't know where to turn. I've been trying to avoid using their facebook site for this inquiry, but maybe public shame will wake them up, although that doesn't seen to have worked to date..
For what it's worth, though it's not a US shipment, it's not far off... I'm (still) waiting on any sign whatsoever that my 1/8 1900 standard edition is making its way to me up here in Montreal. No shipping notification, and if there's no attempted delivery notification when I get home from work today, I'm sending a polite email which, when all is said and done, will come down to "Could you provide me with some proof that the watch is, indeed, on its way to me?". Because good faith is one thing, but being completely forgotten is another.
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For what it's worth, though it's not a US shipment, it's not far off... I'm (still) waiting on any sign whatsoever that my 1/8 1900 standard edition is making its way to me up here in Montreal. No shipping notification, and if there's no attempted delivery notification when I get home from work today, I'm sending a polite email which, when all is said and done, will come down to "Could you provide me with some proof that the watch is, indeed, on its way to me?". Because good faith is one thing, but being completely forgotten is another.
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Yeah - good luck on getting a reply to ANY email whatsoever....
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Yeah - good luck on getting a reply to ANY email whatsoever....
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As much to my surprise as anyone's, Magan got back to me and (despite apparently not entirely understanding my question, as I was told it was "too late to change my delivery address"), I got given a tracking number! Small victory, at least.
Interestingly, it shows my watch as having shipped on the 28th, not on the 18th as the update would have had you believe, and the last update shows it leaving Switzerland on the 4th. Where it is now, I have no clue, but it's apparently in transit to me (in Canada). Will update when and if I get further news.
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As much to my surprise as anyone's, Magan got back to me and (despite apparently not entirely understanding my question, as I was told it was "too late to change my delivery address"), I got given a tracking number! Small victory, at least.
Interestingly, it shows my watch as having shipped on the 28th, not on the 18th as the update would have had you believe, and the last update shows it leaving Switzerland on the 4th. Where it is now, I have no clue, but it's apparently in transit to me (in Canada). Will update when and if I get further news.
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I was afraid to back the kickstarter because you can truly end up with nothing for your money. When all the watches started arriving for people I went on ebay and bought one. People are selling the watches at a discount because it doesn't work properly right out of the box. I got my watch early last week and only paid a few days before I got it
I am also in Canada. From the time my ts left China to the time it arrived at my door I could not track it. Tracking always said left China. Then one day it just arrived at my door.
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I am also in Canada. From the time my ts left China to the time it arrived at my door I could not track it. Tracking always said left China. Then one day it just arrived at my door.
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How long did it take end-to-end, rhineymac? I'm curious as to when I should start getting more anxious.
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How long did it take end-to-end, rhineymac? I'm curious as to when I should start getting more anxious.
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A little over three weeks. Mine was held at customs for 10 days
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A little over three weeks. Mine was held at customs for 10 days
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Well, then I'm theoretically within 10 days of receiving mine, then, the status updated to "Handed to customs" last night!
Wish me luck, folks! According to tracking info:
Thu 17.04.2014 11:05 Delivery attempt: addressee absent
Going to the post office after work to attempt to pick it up.
In October 2014, I enthusiastically purchased my Sony Z3v at full price. There is no question in my mind that it was and still is an outstanding device. But this does not excuse the fact that many of us purchased this device with the understanding that Lollipop was imminent by end of year 2014 and simultaneous voice and data would be available shortly thereafter. It doesn't matter if there are hacks available or not. My purchase was predicated on the fact these things were imminent, that Verizon would be enabling and updating these features.
Since then, along with many of you, I have contacted Verizon several times over the last 17 months and each time Verizon representatives have told me to be patient, that the updates were imminent. As a consumer, I had no recourse but to trust what they promised......its not as if I had any options and could sell the device back to Verizon for full value without losing money.
I use my device for work and have suffered loss due to the fact I could not receive data while on calls etc.
This has been such a complete joke. I don't know if a class action suit would even be fruitful. But what I can tell you is that I will never purchase a device or any accessories from Verizon ever again.
So sad.
I completely understand your frustration and sympathize with you on this. Verizon's "policies" makes my blood boil, but only if I associate the device directly with them. (I know, I know... They brand the snot out of everything they sell so you always have their logo to remind you...)
However, I've come to absolutely love this device despite Verizon's broken promises, and actually am now (tonight) buying a second new handset so I may continue to enjoy the Z3V for a few more years to come.
I admit I'm a bit odd; old, set in my ways, don't like change, etc. I went from Droid 1 to iPhone s4 to z3V ever since the Droid came out. But I see handset technology slowing down now. Carriers AND manufacturers are starting to offer less (no SD slots -WTF?!)... I've found a device that suits all my needs and I'm gambling I'll be happy with it for a few years to come. (This thing is twice as powerful as my last laptop and has a 200Gb SD card with a 21MP camera! And a friggin FM radio in it!!)
Granted, you mention a particular need (voice plus simultaneous data), but you knew the handset didn't have that when you bought it and you never really were certain when you did buy it when that feature was supposed to be added. You never got it. Is that a reason to be pissed at the carrier? Yes, most certainly, especially if your livelihood depends partially on it. But the device, well, in my opinion, it's the closest thing to Apple build quality sporting Android that I've seen so far.
My biased, crazy opinion. Afterall, I'm buying a second one to keep in a drawer. LOL!
If I didn't think it would be a total loss, but I'd go grab the Z5/Z5 Premium and go use it on Straight Talk. This is the only way I'd see myself upgrade to a Sony only route.
If I did, I'll buy whatever accessories to keep the phone in top condition since I won't have assurance of a guarantee that I could just warranty my problems if something happened. It's why I'm grateful that having insurance from Verizon on my phone that I could easily get it replaced. :/
Unfortunately the insurance for replacement is "limited time only" at best. I had my handset replaced after I bricked it and it seemed as if it were a close possibility that I might have to settle for something else of "equivalent value". That was 3 or 4months ago. I was super thankful that my replacement looked brand new. I'm pretty particular and I saw no indication that it's a refurb. I can't seem to find a NIB one now.
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Unfortunately the insurance for replacement is "limited time only" at best. I had my handset replaced after I bricked it and it seemed as if it were a close possibility that I might have to settle for something else of "equivalent value". That was 3 or 4months ago. I was super thankful that my replacement looked brand new. I'm pretty particular and I saw no indication that it's a refurb. I can't seem to find a NIB one now.
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Limited time only in regards to how many times I can use it? Or how many more months I can have until it somehow runs out?
OTA on the way
Talked to Verizon rep online she talked to the network team and she said this week that ota updates where deployed this month and should be down by end of month. According to them 12% had received the ota. If this is true we should all have lollipop by end of month. If she was lying I will put up her cell phone number so you can all duke it out with her.
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Limited time only in regards to how many times I can use it? Or how many more months I can have until it somehow runs out?
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Limited in the sense that this model is becoming difficult to find in new condition.
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Talked to Verizon rep online she talked to the network team and she said this week that ota updates where deployed this month and should be down by end of month. According to them 12% had received the ota. If this is true we should all have lollipop by end of month. If she was lying I will put up her cell phone number so you can all duke it out with her.
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I'm sorry dude, but you have just joined yesterday and this is your one and only post?
You smell funny, so Ima get the big guy to pull yer post (and this one) so we can keep an on topic discussion that doesn't go down this same road yet again.
I'd like to be able to discuss stuff without the thread getting closed down!
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No worries, mate. GREG BRADLEY says you're not a dupe account, so carry on screwing up this thread with your unsubstantiated claim. -Even though such claims draws arguments like maggots on crap. LOL!
Welp, the moderator has spoken.
Anyhow, I wouldn't care so much if it was new or used as long as its in fine, not banged up, and working condition. It's just knowing how long until it would be I can get the most out of the Z3v though...
I feel the same way. Its a great device but Verizon is lame as soon as my contract is up i am moving to TIng. Sony did a nice job of supporting this phone and even offering a way to unlock all the other models of the Z3 but Verizon wants to keep it locked up and then fails to provide the updates themselves. I think i might buy another Z3 (regular gsm one) once I switch though.
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I feel the same way. Its a great device but Verizon is lame as soon as my contract is up i am moving to TIng. Sony did a nice job of supporting this phone and even offering a way to unlock all the other models of the Z3 but Verizon wants to keep it locked up and then fails to provide the updates themselves. I think i might buy another Z3 (regular gsm one) once I switch though.
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I am pleased with my Z3v and will probably use it until the battery starts failing. It would be nice to have an unlocked bootloader but I don't ROM-up phones like I used to and as long as it is rooted and I can use certain root-required apps I like then it is livable.
Unfortunately here in the Nashville, TN area where I live the Verizon network is second to none in quality and coverage, the only viable option if you don't live in an urban area is a Straight Talk phone using the Verizon network. The term "the hills of Tennessee" isn't a glib comment. I have been in situations where friends using other carriers have one or no bars and my Verizon phone had a solid three bars. Also my work occasionally sends me up to southern Kentucky where it is literally a choice between Verizon or nothing. Now there is growing resistance to any new cell towers being erected so it has grown much more difficult for a carrier to improve their network.
I hear ya on that one, Komet1. Verizon is the only carrier that works well in my area too. So this definitely factors into the equation of just how much I can tolerate regarding Verizon's BS policies.
Me as well... Verizon is the only reliable service I can use. So they get my business there by default but that's where I draw the line. So while I am forced to pay monthly for their towers and spectrum I will never buy a phone from them or any accessories from them again. I know it won't make much a difference to them but it's the principle of the matter for me. I can't support their practices in light of my Z3v fiasco with the three Z3v's I have on my account.
silentswarm said:
Talked to Verizon rep online she talked to the network team and she said this week that ota updates where deployed this month and should be down by end of month. According to them 12% had received the ota. If this is true we should all have lollipop by end of month. If she was lying I will put up her cell phone number so you can all duke it out with her.
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Anyone seen any evidence of this happening or do we have a troll in our midst?
Komet1 said:
Anyone seen any evidence of this happening or do we have a troll in our midst?
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I dunno. He Pmed me a link, but I didn't bother checking it out as I was in a hurry. Guess I'll bite, but I don't hold my breath on any of these leaked reports. I find it just a bit curious that he/she had only one post and by date given, seemed to have registered JUST to post that.
Edit: I just checked the link silentswarm sent me via PM and all it is is a screenshot, supposedly of his phone, with a text from Verizon stating, "Free Verizon Msg: The Xperia update to Lollipop is expected to rollout by the end of February. Thanks for your patience."
That's about as weak as I've seen as far as "proof" this far.
I'll eat my words and apologize to silentswarm if he is found to be correct.
I just checked the Verizon forums, one would think if this was legit they would be on fire but no, all is quiet. I'll calling this one bogus.
silentswarm PMed me after the first post this morning with a link to the same screenie, I just spotted it. Granted it looks real.
He said he was a bit of a lurker, I can relate to that, I've been hanging around Reddit for several years and still don't have an account. I guess it was my lack of trust that Verizon will do anything that makes me suspicious.
Why has no one shared of said image for everyone to view on here? :v
GigaSPX said:
Why has no one shared of said image for everyone to view on here? :v
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LOL... didn't you know this rumor is TOP SECRET?
Shhhhh! Don't tell a n y b o d y!
heh, never thought about it despite silentswarm's OK. I stop thinking Friday afternoon and don't really start again until Monday morning when I merge into the disaster named I-40 Westbound...here ya go
silentswarm said:
I follow the forums pretty often just never needed to create a account cause I had nothing to add. Here is text I received from version after I chatted with network support.
http://postimg.org/image/tuxfyslid
Feel free to share it I don't have enough posts to share links or pictures yet
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I guess that's pretty legit enough being sent through text message. Although this is the first time I ever saw a carrier would send out an update announcement through text.