I know there is CF-Root, but I was just wondering, why does rom manager claim to be compatible (the recent update bought supposed SGS2 support) when you need a non-existent kernel. By non-existent, I know there is CF-Root, but thats modified and has some other app for managing it whereas on the market place page it says Samsung Users need a clockwork compatible kernel. ??????
I know CF-Root has it intergrated, and Chainfire said Rom Manager was not compatible, but if there was a supposed compatible kernel for clockworkmod, without it integrated, then would Rom Manager work?
I'm sure Chainfire knows what hes talking about, but I was just wondering what these ClockwordMod compatible are and where? I'm guessing they are non-existent and Rom Manager was just making itself compatible.
Of course I am probably completely mistaken, and I've either misread something or it is CF-Root that Koush is referring to, which is unlikely cos its integrated.
Thanks in Advance.
Edd
EDIT: Damn, I'm blind. I missed this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1118693. Sorry for wasting space :\
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I've been doing this whole "reading" thing about flashing and all that, but some confusion is still there.
I have rooted my newly got SGS2 (i9100, UK).
Now what ? I'm looking at Darky's rom, but there are two files to flash separately: kernel (darkcore1.7) and ROM itself.
1. I was just wondering what is kernel in this situation ? Can i keep my current kernel, which was flashed by superoneclick(2.1.1) or do i absolutely need to flash darkcore ?
2. Same question applies to any other rom out there - can i use different kernel to the rom i may want to flash ? A lot of them come in sets (rom+kernel)
3. Another question - if i mess up kernel flash somehow, does that kill "download mode" of the phone (voldn+pwr)?
I have SGS1 flashed just another day, due to it being "expendable" now that i have SGS2, so jumped in and flashed it following instructions, but without solid understanding. Either stuff gets too complicated or i'm getting too old for this **** (I do have a background of messing with PCs, videogame consoles (ps1 era to ps3/360), winmo6 phones, gadgetry in general...engineer at heart )
You can use any kernel with any ROM. And no I don't think your Download Mode will be gone if you mess up a Kernel.
Kernel don't come in sets. You can choose your favorite there. See Dev section for more details.
Regards.
Correction: SuperCore, not darkcore...
Can i use cwm app (v2.0)to flash any kernels ? Or does it have to be odin ?
sliex said:
Correction: SuperCore, not darkcore...
Can i use cwm app (v2.0)to flash any kernels ? Or does it have to be odin ?
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Rom>>That depends upon the instructions as always in the rom you choose for a custom rom .
Kernel is flashed via Odin Via CWM app or via CWM recovery .
Kernel is the core of the system between hardware and operating .
jje
Ok, so saying that, What stock Kernel can I use for Cyanogenmod7 ROM?
I was using "XWKE7" previously.
The ZIP file that i downloaded actually replaced my kernel with its own.
I'm asking this as I wanna use Tegrak overclock which is only compatible with stock kernels.
Rjmcgauley said:
Ok, so saying that, What stock Kernel can I use for Cyanogenmod7 ROM?
I was using "XWKE7" previously.
The ZIP file that i downloaded actually replaced my kernel with its own.
I'm asking this as I wanna use Tegrak overclock which is only compatible with stock kernels.
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Stock kernels will not work with cyanogenmod. There are no overclockable kernels available for it yet.
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I flash cf-root kernel in cm7 rc2.2 couldn't start. CF-root kernel is fast、and no lag to screen unlock and gallery3d,I think it's wonderful of using cm7 rom with cf-root kernel.
the failed to boot is obvious, as cfroot isnt meant for cm. also cfroot and current cm7 kernel that most people use is compiled by the same man, ketut. and i'm pretty sure what he did with cfroot also already incorporated in the cm kernel which he also compiled himself.
an0nym0us_ said:
the failed to boot is obvious, as cfroot isnt meant for cm. also cfroot and current cm7 kernel that most people use is compiled by the same man, ketut. and i'm pretty sure what he did with cfroot also already incorporated in the cm kernel which he also compiled himself.
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Well,I'm sure too.
CF-root => Cyanogen mod
Hello everybody,
There are a few threads that discuss this question, but they all draw a different conclusion.
This one for instance : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256707 (or if the link is broken, search this: [Q] CF-root to ClockworkMod (for cyanogenmod), and non-responsive launcher).
In the thread above they claim that repeating the installation of the .zip file twice, will install CM7 on the device. However, in this very thread , CF-root and CM7 are said to be incompatible. As i want to install CM7 on my device (Samsung Galaxy S2, i know it's different from the ace but the rooting principles are the same), i'd like to know for sure:
Is there a way to install CM7 on a CF-rooted device?
Many thanks
EDIT: Question already answered in the linked thread. Thx anyway
Hey guys I am new to android, and I need some questions answered before I go and start modding/flashing roms. Thanks in advance!! So here they are:
My questions.
1: okay cool, so I've successfully rooted my gio. Awesome, but now I would like to flash cyanogen mod 7.2 or the beta cyanogen 9, but I need clockwork recovery mod. In order to do this i need to place it on the root of my sd card. But how do I properly partition it?
2. I also need to install clockwork recovery mod before I flash a new Rom for my gio. In the thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1421650). It mentions something about the ext4 partition and rfs roms. I think it said if I don't have it I have to apply the patch. I am not sure what those mean nor which apply to me. (I am using stock gingerbread 2.3.4)
3. I am interested in overclocking and changing cpu settings for speed and good battery. But I have heard that it may not be supported by stock kernels. So if I do flash cm7 or cm9, does it automatically flash its own kernel that allows that to be done? And if it does, will it be built in so I can do it from settings, or do I have to download the application from Google play?
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1. take the app rom manager, the free version from the play store, grant su when asked and install the CWM recovery..
2. never heard of??
3. i think there is already a customer kernel installed, if not, just download one from youre devices xda side and for overclocking you can use the Rom Toolbox or the normal cyanogenmod settings
have fun and dont forget to thank
Thanks alot! So I do not need a special Version of clockwork recovery? Like the one from this thread? (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1421650). Sorry for the dumb questions, I just dont want to brick it! And i also looked at the rom manager desciption and it says i need a clockwork compatible kernel first?
http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager
link for the official clockwockmod recovery.. just go down the list until you find samsung galaxy gio and yes i think if you install the recovery via rom manager their shouldnt be any problem
.. the link you wrote is another recovery.. which one is better, id dont know got a nexus no gio
I was going to flash CM9, but while reading through the page in the general section I came across this at the bottom:
Don't expect help if...
are not running stock cm-kernel
I searched for a CM kernel and didn't find anything. Doing my search, I noticed some mentioned that the kernel is built into the flash.
A: is that correct? If so, why would the specify you need to be running a CM-Kernel (Unless CM means Clockwork Mod?)
B: If not, where can I download this kernel at?
Thanks!
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I was going to flash CM9, but while reading through the page in the general section I came across this at the bottom:
Don't expect help if...
are not running stock cm-kernel
I searched for a CM kernel and didn't find anything. Doing my search, I noticed some mentioned that the kernel is built into the flash.
A: is that correct? If so, why would the specify you need to be running a CM-Kernel (Unless CM means Clockwork Mod?)
B: If not, where can I download this kernel at?
Thanks!
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Because there are other kernels out there that's why. They'll only give you support if you're running the kernel that comes with the rom
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Nick281051 said:
Because there are other kernels out there that's why. They'll only give you support if you're running the kernel that comes with the rom
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Ok. so option "A" is correct then. Since I'm running Entropy's daily, by flashing the zip, it will automatically replace the kernel I'm running. They just don't want people going in behind their install and throwin in their kernel of choice. Correct?
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Ok. so option "A" is correct then. Since I'm running Entropy's daily, by flashing the zip, it will automatically replace the kernel I'm running. They just don't want people going in behind their install and throwin in their kernel of choice. Correct?
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No they just won't support it if someone flashes another kernel afterwards because that can create other problems that they can't troubleshoot if you aren't running their kernel. This is because the kernel might have caused said issue
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Think about what yer asking. If a ROM didn't come with a kernel built into it could it run? No. What kind of kernel would a CM (cyanogenmod) ROM come with? Ehhh? A....CM kernel perhaps? Is this not common sense?
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Think about what yer asking. If a ROM didn't come with a kernel built into it could it run? No. What kind of kernel would a CM (cyanogenmod) ROM come with? Ehhh? A....CM kernel perhaps? Is this not common sense?
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I'm not sure what you're saying is true. When installing UnNamed Rom, I needed to first install a kernel with CWM in it (Entropy's). I'm not sure why the install instructions for the ROM would say "Install the Kernel" unless it needed it. Would be kind of redundant don't you think?
That's why when I read the warning about running a different kernel, I wanted to make sure that there wasn't a step I was missing before installing it.
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I'm not sure what you're saying is true. When installing UnNamed Rom, I needed to first install a kernel with CWM in it (Entropy's).
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You're completely wrong. This only when you're rooting. UnNamed already comes with a kernel
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stalked_r/t said:
I'm not sure what you're saying is true. When installing UnNamed Rom, I needed to first install a kernel with CWM in it (Entropy's). I'm not sure why the install instructions for the ROM would say "Install the Kernel" unless it needed it. Would be kind of redundant don't you think?
That's why when I read the warning about running a different kernel, I wanted to make sure that there wasn't a step I was missing before installing it.
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Asked, discussed but don't say such "I'm not sure what you're saying is true", it is an insult. Phalanx is right and I think you maybe still confuse about the process.
Q: why would I (we) need to install custom kernel such Entropy DD before flashing custom ROM?
That question leads to another question
Q1: how do I flash custom ROM, what is the requirement?
A: In order to flash ROM, you MUST have CwMR installed
Then next question Q2: how do I get CwMR installed on my device?
That lead to the answer for the first question, you get CwMR by installing custom kernel.
Still confuse?
Now back to your discussion, yes, every ROM (I should say every firmware image) MUST contain the kernel (along with the OS).
In your first post, CM9 ROM will have CM9 kernel called "CM stock kernel"
Why don't they support anything else but their own kernel?
Put it this way, you sell me a PC, running Windows 7, I bring it home, rip it apart, install Linux on it, when I have issue, I call you and say "I bought the PC from you, I decide to install my own OS, and now something doesn't work right". Do you think you will provide me any kind of support?
Another note from your post, CM9 is ICS, make sure you get Entropy's ICS kernel called FAQUD (spelling), not his Daily Driver for GB.
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Asked, discussed but don't say such "I'm not sure what you're saying is true", it is an insult. Phalanx is right and I think you maybe still confuse about the process.
Q: why would I (we) need to install custom kernel such Entropy DD before flashing custom ROM?
That question leads to another question
Q1: how do I flash custom ROM, what is the requirement?
A: In order to flash ROM, you MUST have CwMR installed
Then next question Q2: how do I get CwMR installed on my device?
That lead to the answer for the first question, you get CwMR by installing custom kernel.
Still confuse?
Now back to your discussion, yes, every ROM (I should say every firmware image) MUST contain the kernel (along with the OS).
In your first post, CM9 ROM will have CM9 kernel called "CM stock kernel"
Why don't they support anything else but their own kernel?
Put it this way, you sell me a PC, running Windows 7, I bring it home, rip it apart, install Linux on it, when I have issue, I call you and say "I bought the PC from you, I decide to install my own OS, and now something doesn't work right". Do you think you will provide me any kind of support?
Another note from your post, CM9 is ICS, make sure you get Entropy's ICS kernel called FAQUD (spelling), not his Daily Driver for GB.
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Thanks. I wasn't insulting anyone. I was saying that I don't know, but I didn't think it was true. Not saying YOU'RE WRONG!
Hi, I'm sure there is a thread, but I didn't find one using google or the forum search. I want to make sure that I don't screw the pooch with my phone, I rooted using Busybox and I have the superuser app now installed, but I didn't change the kernel at all. I was wondering if I can still load custom roms on the phone now that I have rooted it, even though the stock kernel is on my phone.
Also, it seems as though many of the posts I've found refer to using a windows machine, I'm using ubuntu, and I only have one other machine that runs something other than that, and its osx. If I wanted to flash the kernel, is there a good post somewhere that describes how to do this in linux, preferably a debian based linux?
I have a Galaxy S2, i777 (which I guess the entire board is dedicated to, so that should be obvious). I'm posting because I want to be super careful and not brick my phone. I'll make a nand backup before doing anything, but now that I've rooted, can I just install any custom rom that works with the i777, or am I limited to certain ones because I have the stock kernel. Does the galaxy phone custom rom (I think thats what its called) work with the stock kernel on the i777?
Thanks for any answers anyone has, and if I just get a post reference, that's fine, I just couldn't find it after hours of sifting.
First. Read the stickies.
Second. After reading the stickies you will find that you can't flash any ROM until you flash a kernel with cwm cooked in.
Third. After you have read the above you should know exactly what tools you can use to get there.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
To add to what Pirate said, or rather further elaborate , our phones have recovery in the kernel. So with ours you don't flash recovery separately. PM me if u have questions and I'll answer them there rather than in the thread.
Phalanx7621 said:
To add to what Pirate said, or rather further elaborate , our phones have recovery in the kernel. So with ours you don't flash recovery separately. PM me if u have questions and I'll answer them there rather than in the thread.
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Thank you! I will look for the stickies, and I may take you up on that PM.