[Q] How kernel change works on different roms ? - Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've been doing this whole "reading" thing about flashing and all that, but some confusion is still there.
I have rooted my newly got SGS2 (i9100, UK).
Now what ? I'm looking at Darky's rom, but there are two files to flash separately: kernel (darkcore1.7) and ROM itself.
1. I was just wondering what is kernel in this situation ? Can i keep my current kernel, which was flashed by superoneclick(2.1.1) or do i absolutely need to flash darkcore ?
2. Same question applies to any other rom out there - can i use different kernel to the rom i may want to flash ? A lot of them come in sets (rom+kernel)
3. Another question - if i mess up kernel flash somehow, does that kill "download mode" of the phone (voldn+pwr)?
I have SGS1 flashed just another day, due to it being "expendable" now that i have SGS2, so jumped in and flashed it following instructions, but without solid understanding. Either stuff gets too complicated or i'm getting too old for this **** (I do have a background of messing with PCs, videogame consoles (ps1 era to ps3/360), winmo6 phones, gadgetry in general...engineer at heart )

You can use any kernel with any ROM. And no I don't think your Download Mode will be gone if you mess up a Kernel.
Kernel don't come in sets. You can choose your favorite there. See Dev section for more details.
Regards.

Correction: SuperCore, not darkcore...
Can i use cwm app (v2.0)to flash any kernels ? Or does it have to be odin ?

sliex said:
Correction: SuperCore, not darkcore...
Can i use cwm app (v2.0)to flash any kernels ? Or does it have to be odin ?
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Rom>>That depends upon the instructions as always in the rom you choose for a custom rom .
Kernel is flashed via Odin Via CWM app or via CWM recovery .
Kernel is the core of the system between hardware and operating .
jje

Ok, so saying that, What stock Kernel can I use for Cyanogenmod7 ROM?
I was using "XWKE7" previously.
The ZIP file that i downloaded actually replaced my kernel with its own.
I'm asking this as I wanna use Tegrak overclock which is only compatible with stock kernels.

Rjmcgauley said:
Ok, so saying that, What stock Kernel can I use for Cyanogenmod7 ROM?
I was using "XWKE7" previously.
The ZIP file that i downloaded actually replaced my kernel with its own.
I'm asking this as I wanna use Tegrak overclock which is only compatible with stock kernels.
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Stock kernels will not work with cyanogenmod. There are no overclockable kernels available for it yet.
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[Q] Kernel

Is it ok to flash a custom kernel on top of another custom kernel?
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You dont need to revert on the original one before flash another custom. But you need to format dalvik cache and cache in recovery before flashing or you probably have a bootloop.
I suggest to make a backup of the rom in recovery, so If something goes wrong you can enter recovery and have the latest known working rom back in 2 minutes.
Please note flashing kernels always have a very small chance to corrupt your efs partition, its suggested to backup your efs folder before start play with roms and kernels. How to backup the efs, use the search tool of the forum
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rembrandtlnx said:
You dont need to revert on the original one before flash another custom. But you need to format dalvik cache and cache in recovery before flashing or you probably have a bootloop.
I suggest to make a backup of the rom in recovery, so If something goes wrong you can enter recovery and have the latest known working rom back in 2 minutes.
Please note flashing kernels always have a very small chance to corrupt your efs partition, its suggested to backup your efs folder before start play with roms and kernels. How to backup the efs, use the search tool of the forum
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Thanks for that. I know how to backup efs. Can i just use nitrality instead of ADB? To flash ROMs does it need to be in a specific firmware like sgsl or is it ok to have different firmware from the base of a custom rom?
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I know my english sux sry:
Depends on the kernel but usually it is listed in the kernel thread the how to (odin or clockworkmod), clockworkmode is already on your phone if you rooted it with cf-root.
Now, to enter clockworkmod recovery, just push volume up + home + power button until the S2 bootlogo appears, then wait few seconds.
About the kernel type, i always flashed any kernel despite of my baseband, the difference is not so big.
if something is not working, you can always youse the nandroid backup (the backup done with the recovery cwm (up+home+power) and get back to the previous rom with previous kernel.
Im not really in the kernel "how to" someone else can prolly give you more detailed info, but as for me, i flashed ninphetamine 2.05 and 2.1.3 in cwm and it worked.
But.. as always, the kernel developers got a how to install in their kernel thread, so just read those and be sure about if you need odin or clockworkmod, if you are not sure, DONT flash anything until you are sure on how to proceed or wich system to use for flashing, better keep an old kernel with a working phone than have a brick to hold the papers
PS: also almost all the roms on the S2 forum are flashable with the clockworkmod, only few (like the lite'ning) are flashable with odin.
Again, i know im boring, dont proceed if you are not sure, better ask 10 times instead brick your phone
ephraim033 said:
Is it ok to flash a custom kernel on top of another custom kernel?
Yes not a problem flash as per the custom kernel instructions .
Kernel can be changed within an individual firmware or custom rom .
jje
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Thanks for the reply guys. Coming back to my second question. What if i have KF1 and the rom i want to flash has a base of KI3, should i flash to stock KI3 first before flashing the custom rom or is it ok to flash a KI3 custom rom without flashing first to stock KI3?
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The custom rom first, the kernel after.
I got the habbit to boot succesfully at least once the custom rom. If everything is ok i then flash the kernel. Better do 1 task at time.
You can decide to try the rom without change the kernel..and try a different one if you experience battery drain or other problems.
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If i am on KH3 and want to flash a custom rom based on KI4 then i would flash stock KI4 and KI4 root first .
Custom rom flashed i will often try a different kernel later .
jje
from my experience
I have found that when i upgraded rom from gingerbread to ics that most custom kernals work with these roms ie now running with xxlpw ics (from gingerbread) with xwlp7 kernal. from what i have read on other posts and threads i could swap kernal to siya or any other as the mega good developers have made them (hotswappable) interchangeable as previous reply said swapping kernal might give you better battery or solve overheat probs.
Eg iwas running darkys rom with siya kernal v?something my phone rocketed temp in short time so i swapped kernal for an up to date one (could have used older one) it solved problem.
Anyone feel free to correct explination im still learning too lol
linuxnubee said:
I have found that when i upgraded rom from gingerbread to ics that most custom kernals work with these roms ie now running with xxlpw ics (from gingerbread) with xwlp7 kernal. from what i have read on other posts and threads i could swap kernal to siya or any other as the mega good developers have made them (hotswappable) interchangeable as previous reply said swapping kernal might give you better battery or solve overheat probs.
Eg iwas running darkys rom with siya kernal v?something my phone rocketed temp in short time so i swapped kernal for an up to date one (could have used older one) it solved problem.
Anyone feel free to correct explination im still learning too lol
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I'll just point out this thread was dead since Sept 30 before you posted...

[Q] upgrade before custom roms??

2mrw I'll be getting my brand new I9100T
Now I'm not asking which rom is best ^^ so no infraction needed
...rather...
should I upgrade to official ICS before trying out other roms? or is gingerbread stock a better launching pad?
can we downgrade from ICS?? (I'm assuming b/l is unlocked)
is there a baseband app for SGS-II (like my defy has) -=or=- will I need to manually copy it over?
PS - if it is recommended to officially update... is KIES or CWM better for this?
T.I.A
stock gb for now later u can upgrade to anything
1) Not necessary. Follow whatever instructions the particular rom you want to use has.
2) Yes, you can downgrade from ICS to GB. Simply flash whatever GB rom you want to downgrade to.
3) Baseband app ? I presume you mean modem. Flashing any rom shouldn't change your modem, and many of the GB modems work just fine with ICS I.E modem/baseband is independent of rom/kernel. I'm still using the modem I used with GB, essentially unless you have issues with connectivity/data/calls/SMS that you can't pin down on your carrier's network, no need to change your modem. In saying that, modems are CWM flashable (you can also flash them in Odin), so if you do have connectivity issues & want to try other modems it's pretty easy.
Now, if you meant something else by 'baseband', explain what you mean & I'll try and answer whatever questions you have around that.
@ MistahBungle
On the defy your radio/baseband/modem/yabba_dabba_doo
does change when changing rom - defy has an app for restoring the above...
as it's all android, I'm sure I can do it manually on the S II
so no-one see's official ICS update as beneficial?? Surely it's less buggy than a CM9 -=or=- a MIUIv4!
PS - which recovery should I flash for I9100T??
PSS - Think I'll try MIUI 2.3.9 for a start after I get bored of stock
OK so the modem/baseband is the same thing. On SGS2, roms normally don't come with a modem (I don't think I've seen a single one that has a modem included), these can be changed/flashed independently of the rom/kernel you're using. Again, my advice is if it ain't broke don't fix it; if connectivity/data is fine with the modem you're currently using, no need to mess with it. Yes, you can change them manually yourself easily; most modems are CWM flashable & take a minute to flash.
Whether official ICS (or even a custom ICS rom) is a 'step up' or not depends on how you experience same, I.E. YMMV (like any rom or kernel really). Only way to find out is to try one, which is pretty simple once you've rooted your phone; you can backup your current setup in CWM then try out whatever rom you want. If you find you don't like it, takes only a few mins to restore your backup.
If you use CFRoot to root your phone, it installs CWRecovery by default, which makes backup/restore & flashing roms/kernels/modems a snap. If you do choose to use CFRoot, read the whole first page thoroughly, it's very simple if you pay attention/follow the instructions.
was going to root via 'new' method i.e. .bat file - suppose to root all S 2 variants... it doesn't install CWM but I can do that via Odin...
you use touch recovery??
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OK so the modem/baseband is the same thing. On SGS2, roms normally don't come with a modem (I don't think I've seen a single one that has a modem included), t
beg pardon most roms do have a modem stock yes custom ICS yes .
Rare that a rom does not have a modem .
jje
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Up to you, use whatever method you're comfortable with. Touch recovery ? Have used it when I've used Siyah, but not at the moment as I'm using CM9 kernel. Happy to use it if it's part of a kernel/it is good, but personally can't be arsed installing it seperately if it's not.
@JJE Roms I've used haven't had modems (Yes, stock does.) I.E GB Galnet Miui & CM9 don't.
King_Rat said:
was going to root via 'new' method i.e. .bat file - suppose to root all S 2 variants... it doesn't install CWM but I can do that via Odin...
you use touch recovery??
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All GB custom roms i have used have modems likewise every ICS custom rom.
Galnet Miui & CM9 only ever tried once so you are probably right for those two . But apart from those sort of builds i have never come across one without a modem . last ten ICS builds i tried have a modem .
jje
i have a 9100t telecom phone,but 2degrees as my provider so i flashed the baseband 9100tdukf4 to get better batterylife with vodafone and 2deg frequencies.
what i did with mine first, i flashed siyah 2.6.14 kernel with odin then used cwm to backup my telecom rom and then flashed away
will manually backup modem ;-) just in case is needed for custom rom...
now another Q: what's all this talk I've been seeing of an internal SD? ^^
How does this affect modding i.e. backing up, restoring nand, flashing roms etc?
well... well... well... 3 holes in the ground ^^
had my 1st soft brick
tried rom manager SII recovery flash (just wanted to see what it would do... just in case it worked) soft-brick...
then flashed CWM via Odin (source galaxy2root[dot]com)
& all is good...
O/C'd to 1.4Ghz with Tegrak & Linpack giving 55+ MFlops!!
Use stock for a wee bit & then I'll get into roms...
PS -Juwe11 RAM script working a treat ;-)
rom manager from the market? i should of said not to use those , i hear they can softbrick the s2.
disable your anti virus while flashing too, nod32 stopped my flashing,soft brick.

[Q] need help in flashing my phone

Hi,
I recently bought Samsung Galaxy S II I9100 on ebay. After receiving it I realized that it has a custom ROM installed on it. Now I cannot update my Galaxy SII using Kies. So, I decided why not flash it to stock ICS firmware.
as fas as I understand I need to flash my phone using ODIN with a stock ICS firmware (I choose the first one from Nordic countries from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1544487 ).
Now what if I think of rooting it ? I mean I want to unlock super user privileges. As far as I understand I choose SiyahKernel v3.2.7.2 (from http://www.gokhanmoral.com/gm/). Just like the way I flashed using ODIN. I repeat it with this .tar file from SiyahKernel v3.2.7.2. Is that it ?
Can anyone verify it ?
Yes, but you should flash CF-Root kernel first (after flashing stock ROM).
If not satisfied with this, then you can try Siyah...
thanks for your reply. What is the difference between Chain Fire and Siyah ? I tried to look for differences ... couldn't find any .. CyanogenMod has a lot of documentation... in fact it is kinda scary (with some of its security problems)..
satish1986 said:
thanks for your reply. What is the difference between Chain Fire and Siyah ? I tried to look for differences ... couldn't find any .. CyanogenMod has a lot of documentation... in fact it is kinda scary (with some of its security problems)..
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hey ma8 first try to understand everything about root and recovery then try to implement the same
ps- also for rooting ur phone after flashing stock ics rom please check the link below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20075898#post20075898
There is almost no visible diffrences between kernels. at least in normal mode.(siyah has its own CWM, way better than other CWM versions).
Siyah Kernel eliminates some of logging processes and unusefull procedures of android, so it gives you better battery life. specially in idle mode.(about 1 percent for 7-8 hour) and I feel CF-kernels are more battery consuming than stock kernels.
Also Siyah gives you advanced control over hardware, and has a dual boot option.(two different ROM of same version. both ICS or both GB). for best results you should download EX Tweaks from market.
satish1986 said:
thanks for your reply. What is the difference between Chain Fire and Siyah ? I tried to look for differences ... couldn't find any .. CyanogenMod has a lot of documentation... in fact it is kinda scary (with some of its security problems)..
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CF-Root kernel from Chainfire is only a rooted stock kernel with a few extras (such as SuperSU, BusyBox, CWM recovery, CWM Manager app, etc.).
Have a look at CF-Root thread for detailed information => http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399&highlight=CF+Root
SiyahKernel from gokhanmoral is completely different, as it is a custom kernel with a lot of patched, parts from other kernels/linux sources/other phones/individually developed code/etc.
See corresponding thread for further information => http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1555259
If you want to stay "stock" but rooted, then flash the corresponding CF-Root kernel for your stock ROM.
Happy flashing !
P.S.: Use TriangleAway app from Chainfire to remove the yellow triangle and reset the counter after flashing an insecure kernel, such as CF-Root or Siyah.
And as soon as your phone is rooted, you can use Mobile Odin app from Chainfire to flash stock ROMs, kernels and other part of the firmware with an on-device app - without the yellow triangle and without increasing the counter.
CF kernels are STOCK kernels, only with root access.
Syiah, Speedmod and others are developed as new kernels with special properties - adjustable voltage and over- under- clocking... also there is a greater risk of them being unstable
all of this makes me scared .. but, I want to take that leap ... sounds geeky to me..
As long as you understand the process of whatever you're going to do to your phone & follow instructions to the letter you should be fine.
If you don't understand exactly what it is you're going to do to your phone, don't do anything until you do.

I want to buy S2

Hi S2 user, :angel:
I will buy a new S2 phone soon. I need a little help from you guys. I need to know something about S2 :laugh:
My old phone is Xperia Arc S. This phone need following step to flash kernel and rom.
Kernel:
For flash a new kernel, I need to unlocked the bootloader first. Then this phone can flash any kernel anytime. But unlocking the bootloader will void the warranty.
Rom:
For flash a new rom, as long as the rom does not need to have specific kernel, in other word, stock based rom, no unlocked bootloader required. Just install the CWM and flash the rom.
How about S2 guys? Do I need to unlock something before flash kernel and rom? Can someone explain clearly or likes how I explain my old phone.
p/s- i read in some thread, doing a factory reset in cwm will make S2 brick? hard brick? can't even power on the phone. OMG is it true?
its very scary because in Xperia Arc S, i always flash a new rom. flasholic
I don't want my new S2 brick
I hope you guys can help me. Thanks
faiz5200 said:
Hi S2 user, :angel:
I will buy a new S2 phone soon. I need a little help from you guys. I need to know something about S2 :laugh:
My old phone is Xperia Arc S. This phone need following step to flash kernel and rom.
Kernel:
For flash a new kernel, I need to unlocked the bootloader first. Then this phone can flash any kernel anytime. But unlocking the bootloader will void the warranty.
Rom:
For flash a new rom, as long as the rom does not need to have specific kernel, in other word, stock based rom, no unlocked bootloader required. Just install the CWM and flash the rom.
How about S2 guys? Do I need to unlock something before flash kernel and rom? Can someone explain clearly or likes how I explain my old phone.
p/s- i read in some thread, doing a factory reset in cwm will make S2 brick? hard brick? can't even power on the phone. OMG is it true?
its very scary because in Xperia Arc S, i always flash a new rom. flasholic
I don't want my new S2 brick
I hope you guys can help me. Thanks
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You don't have to unlock. Just download Odin and flash all the ROMs/kernels you want. As for the cwm brick bug, your phone will only brick if you factory reset through CWM in 4.0.4. In other versions you should be fine.
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S2 is the best phone to flash No problem with bootloader lock, you download Odin und happy flashing
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preseodymium said:
You don't have to unlock. Just download Odin and flash all the ROMs/kernels you want. As for the cwm brick bug, your phone will only brick if you factory reset through CWM in 4.0.4. In other versions you should be fine.
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Thanks for your reply. For the brick bug, how come I want to factory reset when flashing new rom? And I think latest firmware for S2 is 4.0.4. Correct me if im wrong.
faiz5200 said:
Thanks for your reply. For the brick bug, how come I want to factory reset when flashing new rom? And I think latest firmware for S2 is 4.0.4. Correct me if im wrong.
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I am currently installing 4.1.2, unofficial of course
The brick Bug problem by 4.0.4 only with Stock Kernel ! when you have 4.0.4 on your phone you flash a save Kernel (Siyah, Dorimanax .....) with Odin (only Odin not Cwm )
and it was save .After you can flash wath you want
smooth 123 said:
The brick Bug problem by 4.0.4 only with Stock Kernel ! when you have 4.0.4 on your phone you flash a save Kernel (Siyah, Dorimanax .....) with Odin (only Odin not Cwm )
and it was save .After you can flash wath you want
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I see. So the brick bug actually come from the kernel inside firmware 4.0.4. Not the entire 4.0.4 firmware. Is other custom kernel likes you mention (Siyah, ..) is 100% safe?
faiz5200 said:
I see. So the brick bug actually come from the kernel inside firmware 4.0.4. Not the entire 4.0.4 firmware. Is other custom kernel likes you mention (Siyah, ..) is 100% safe?
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enjoy ur s2, i just got the s2 and flash over 20 roms like crazy!! jajaja is very good phone
faiz5200 said:
I see. So the brick bug actually come from the kernel inside firmware 4.0.4. Not the entire 4.0.4 firmware. Is other custom kernel likes you mention (Siyah, ..) is 100% safe?
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100% safe! Her is ohter 100% safe Kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1877270
for 4.0.4 Stock In this thread you found more to the theme brick bug.
I flash my S2 i don t know:victory: 100× no Problem S2 likes flashing
faiz5200 said:
Thanks for your reply. For the brick bug, how come I want to factory reset when flashing new rom? And I think latest firmware for S2 is 4.0.4. Correct me if im wrong.
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You factory reset when installing ROMs to make sure there are no errors. Plus with siyah kernels, you can't be 100% sure your phone won't brick when factory reset in CWM. Best is to flash 4.0.3 before doing anything else.
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Rooting
Guys.. 1 more question.
When I get my S2, I plan to flash custom rom like aosp or aokp but not stock rom.
Do I need to root my S2 first before flash any rom? Because my Xperia Arc S, I do not need to root because root come inside with the custom rom zip. So when I flash a new rom, my Xperia automatically root. No need to do other step.
I'm curious about this because I see in some thread, talking about cf root or something like that. The thread is very updated. Looks like it very necessary to do it at least once to have root before flash any custom rom.
Please explain for me about this root. Thanks guys.
faiz5200 said:
Guys.. 1 more question.
When I get my S2, I plan to flash custom rom like aosp or aokp but not stock rom.
Do I need to root my S2 first before flash any rom? Because my Xperia Arc S, I do not need to root because root come inside with the custom rom zip. So when I flash a new rom, my Xperia automatically root. No need to do other step.
I'm curious about this because I see in some thread, talking about cf root or something like that. The thread is very updated. Looks like it very necessary to do it at least once to have root before flash any custom rom.
Please explain for me about this root. Thanks guys.
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I'm not sure about CF root though. Although the ROM I am in now has built in kernels, I still think its best to root first as some ROMs may not have the built in kernel (never searched other ROMs not entirely sure). I might recomment siyah kernel though
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preseodymium said:
I'm not sure about CF root though. Although the ROM I am in now has built in kernels, I still think its best to root first as some ROMs may not have the built in kernel (never searched other ROMs not entirely sure). I might recomment siyah kernel though
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uhh.. So root is come from kernel? Ermm.. so it different than xperia. So if I flash siyah kernel, I do not need to root?
faiz5200 said:
Guys.. 1 more question.
When I get my S2, I plan to flash custom rom like aosp or aokp but not stock rom.
Do I need to root my S2 first before flash any rom? Because my Xperia Arc S, I do not need to root because root come inside with the custom rom zip. So when I flash a new rom, my Xperia automatically root. No need to do other step.
I'm curious about this because I see in some thread, talking about cf root or something like that. The thread is very updated. Looks like it very necessary to do it at least once to have root before flash any custom rom.
Please explain for me about this root. Thanks guys.
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Some people want to simple root their phone and don't care too much for custom roms and stuff. So for such people, they can simply root their phone using one of the many rooting methods mentioned.
However, if your primary aim is to install a custom rom/ kernel, you can use Odin to flash a custom kernel on your phone. (like siyah, dorimanx, Philz, the list goes on..) and you'll have root. Thereafter you can install a custom rom compatible with the kernel. Earlier on it was simple. Flash siyah or dorimanx and any custom rom will work on it. Kinda like a 'one size fits all' deal. However, right now with new mali drivers etc, some versions of a kernel are reqd based on which rom you plan to install. (JB with new mali drivers or JB without those new mali drivers/ICS)
CF-Root is the method I'd used..but right now it's not recommended, since if you're on certain 4.0.4 firmware, that is susceptible to the emmc brickbug I'm sure you've read about. Siyah, dori, etc kernels are safe.
HAXTREME said:
Some people want to simple root their phone and don't care too much for custom roms and stuff. So for such people, they can simply root their phone using one of the many rooting methods mentioned.
However, if your primary aim is to install a custom rom/ kernel, you can use Odin to flash a custom kernel on your phone. (like siyah, dorimanx, Philz, the list goes on..) and you'll have root. Thereafter you can install a custom rom compatible with the kernel. Earlier on it was simple. Flash siyah or dorimanx and any custom rom will work on it. Kinda like a 'one size fits all' deal. However, right now with new mali drivers etc, some versions of a kernel are reqd based on which rom you plan to install. (JB with new mali drivers or JB without those new mali drivers/ICS)
CF-Root is the method I'd used..but right now it's not recommended, since if you're on certain 4.0.4 firmware, that is susceptible to the emmc brickbug I'm sure you've read about. Siyah, dori, etc kernels are safe.
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I see. Thanks. Flash kernel using odin. I see in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125282 , he said flashing a kernel is same like flashing a custom rom which is in CWM. Flash kernel in CWM? I thought the only way is using odin.
faiz5200 said:
I see. Thanks. Flash kernel using odin. I see in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125282 , he said flashing a kernel is same like flashing a custom rom which is in CWM. Flash kernel in CWM? I thought the only way is using odin.
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For S2 we can. Because it won't increase your flash counter. But I never tried flashing through CWM.
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faiz5200 said:
I see. Thanks. Flash kernel using odin. I see in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125282 , he said flashing a kernel is same like flashing a custom rom which is in CWM. Flash kernel in CWM? I thought the only way is using odin.
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There are two ways of flashing a kernel.
1. Use the .tar version of the kernel and flash via Odin
(the same way you'd flash the cf-root kernel you'd mentioned in a post above. I'll assume you know the steps as they're mentioned in chainfire's post. Or there are many posts on that topic)
Advantages: tried and tested route, simple one step method. You're rooted and have a custom kernel in about 30 secs.
Disadvantage: You rely on Odin and the connection to your computer which some don't trust. Increases flash counter.
2. Use the .zip version of the kernel and flash via CWM.
Since in this case you need CWM to start off with, you can use Rachmat3's method described HERE to get temporary CWM first.
Advantages: No computer needed. Everything happens through your phone. Flash counter isnt increased.
Disadvantages: Can be a little finicky at times..but you'll get there eventually. Involves 2 steps. First get temporary CWM, then install custom kernel via cwm.
You can start off with a very popular kernel. Gokhanmoral's siyah kernel.Both the zip and tar versions are available downloadable from HERE
HAXTREME said:
There are two ways of flashing a kernel.
1. Use the .tar version of the kernel and flash via Odin
(the same way you'd flash the cf-root kernel you'd mentioned in a post above. I'll assume you know the steps as they're mentioned in chainfire's post. Or there are many posts on that topic)
Advantages: tried and tested route, simple one step method. You're rooted and have a custom kernel in about 30 secs.
Disadvantage: You rely on Odin and the connection to your computer which some don't trust. Increases flash counter.
2. Use the .zip version of the kernel and flash via CWM.
Since in this case you need CWM to start off with, you can use Rachmat3's method described HERE to get temporary CWM first.
Advantages: No computer needed. Everything happens through your phone. Flash counter isnt increased.
Disadvantages: Can be a little finicky at times..but you'll get there eventually. Involves 2 steps. First get temporary CWM, then install custom kernel via cwm.
You can start off with a very popular kernel. Gokhanmoral's siyah kernel.Both the zip and tar versions are available downloadable from HERE
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Another disadvantage of "not using" odin is when you cant enter cwm.
I use cwm and mobile odin.I flashed a kernel and couldnt access cwm nor phone would boot.
So I had to fix it using my pc via odin.

Which kernal i need to install?

Hello people, this is the info of my galaxy s 2 -
(Go down down )
Which kernal i need to install to flash a root and than rom?
Also do i need to change the kernal all the time before i flash new rom?
Thanks.
FAQs
eBay's said:
Hello people, this is the info of my galaxy s 2 -
(Go down down )
Which kernal i need to install to flash a root and than rom?
Also do i need to change the kernal all the time before i flash new rom?
Thanks.
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Hi There!
Best place to start is the FAQs http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2156592
You don't need to flash a seperate kernal with each new ROM, as they are included.
k0rrupt10n said:
Hi There!
Best place to start is the FAQs http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2156592
You don't need to flash a seperate kernal with each new ROM, as they are included.
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Just read it already XD
Can you give me a kernal for the information i added uo there?
Since the links in thr faq are too old. And i dont know which kernal use CF-Root or Siyah...
Best thing is to read and learn what kernel you need.
alliance 7.3
dorimanx 8.16
nels1
eBay's said:
Just read it already XD
Can you give me a kernal for the information i added uo there?
Since the links in thr faq are too old. And i dont know which kernal use CF-Root or Siyah...
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The root task is done by both of the kernels indeed. But:
If you just want to root your device CF-Root will do the thing.
Siyah or Siyah related kernels (DorimanX Kernel for example) and some others are more advanced kernels that
give you the ability to adjust some settings through an app (STweaks) that is installed with the kernel.
blackprophecy said:
The root task is done by both of the kernels indeed. But:
If you just want to root your device CF-Root will do the thing.
Siyah or Siyah related kernels (DorimanX Kernel for example) and some others are more advanced kernels that
give you the ability to adjust some settings through an app (STweaks) that is installed with the kernel.
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Can you tell me which settings?
And for your opnion which one to install? @blackprophecy
eBay's said:
Can you tell me which settings?
And for your opnion which one to install? @blackprophecy
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DorimanX Kernel
Siyah Kernel
The best way to find out what you can do with the kernels is to read their threads.
It's to much to explain. Just as an example: Change CPU frequency and volting, enable different setting profiles for
improved battery life and much more.
The kernel I like most is DorimanX but you have to be more experienced because of a lot of different options.
Siyah, which is the base of the DorimanX, is more compact with the settings and easier to learn.
No matter what kernel you use, make sure your rom is supported. (Stock or Custom, AOKP / CM Base?)
blackprophecy said:
DorimanX Kernel
Siyah Kernel
The best way to find out what you can do with the kernels is to read their threads.
It's to much to explain. Just as an example: Change CPU frequency and volting, enable different setting profiles for
improved battery life and much more.
The kernel I like most is DorimanX but you have to be more experienced because of a lot of different options.
Siyah, which is the base of the DorimanX, is more compact with the settings and easier to learn.
No matter what kernel you use, make sure your rom is supported. (Stock or Custom, AOKP / CM Base?)
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2186805 < this RoM i wanna flash.
eBay's said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2186805 < this RoM i wanna flash.
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If you just want to flash a kernel because you want to get root and install a custom rom than CF-Root is the best thing.
Every custom rom comes with it's own kernel that fits. Only if you want to get an advanced kernel you may flash one of these:
DorimanX or
Siyah vsync v4/5
in their modified versions for CM and AOKP based roms.
Do NOT flash these kernels as long as you are on a Stock based rom. It won't boot then.
Make sure you know how to install custom roms! Mostly described in the rom threads itself.
So you steps should be:
1. flash CF-Root via odin to get your phone rooted.
2. copy the zip file to sd card and flash the rom via recovery.
3. stay with the delivered kernel of the custom rom or flash another via odin or recovery if you want an advanced one.
blackprophecy said:
If you just want to flash a kernel because you want to get root and install a custom rom than CF-Root is the best thing.
Every custom rom comes with it's own kernel that fits. Only if you want to get an advanced kernel you may flash one of these:
DorimanX or
Siyah vsync v4/5
in their modified versions for CM and AOKP based roms.
Do NOT flash these kernels as long as you are on a Stock based rom. It won't boot then.
Make sure you know how to install custom roms! Mostly described in the rom threads itself.
So you steps should be:
1. flash CF-Root via odin to get your phone rooted.
2. copy the zip file to sd card and flash the rom via recovery.
3. stay with the delivered kernel of the custom rom or flash another via odin or recovery if you want an advanced one.
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Last question -
Can you give me the last version of CF?
Also if i backup with titanuim how i restore it back? since no apps..
and can you write step by step of the root and custom rom(not that clear in jellybear)
Thankyou very much i really apprecite it!
*Delete*
eBay's said:
Last question -
Can you give me the last version of CF?
Also if i backup with titanuim how i restore it back? since no apps..
and can you write step by step of the root and custom rom(not that clear in jellybear)
Thankyou very much i really apprecite it!
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Don't get me wrong, but I think It's better if you make your own experience with installing/flashing >>Instructions
Everything you need is explained here step by step. Won't take you that long to read through it think
If you don't know the difference between Stock and Custom, just use the forum search.
And I figured out that it's better to root via Siyah for you with this one Siyah for stock rom
For titanium i got no advice for you because I'm not experienced with it. But there should be some threads guiding you through.
when you don't get something in the tutorials you're free to ask here again. But for now good luck and have fun learning something about
your device
blackprophecy said:
DorimanX Kernel
Siyah Kernel
The best way to find out what you can do with the kernels is to read their threads.
It's to much to explain. Just as an example: Change CPU frequency and volting, enable different setting profiles for
improved battery life and much more.
The kernel I like most is DorimanX but you have to be more experienced because of a lot of different options.
Siyah, which is the base of the DorimanX, is more compact with the settings and easier to learn.
No matter what kernel you use, make sure your rom is supported. (Stock or Custom, AOKP / CM Base?)
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Click to collapse
blackprophecy said:
Don't get me wrong, but I think It's better if you make your own experience with installing/flashing >>Instructions
Everything you need is explained here step by step. Won't take you that long to read through it think
If you don't know the difference between Stock and Custom, just use the forum search.
And I figured out that it's better to root via Siyah for you with this one Siyah for stock rom
For titanium i got no advice for you because I'm not experienced with it. But there should be some threads guiding you through.
when you don't get something in the tutorials you're free to ask here again. But for now good luck and have fun learning something about
your device
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Thankyou very much, i read it.
but i dont get something -
If i download the saiyah one instead the CF do i need to CWM recovery from this guide?http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_i9100
eBay's said:
Thankyou very much, i read it.
but i dont get something -
If i download the saiyah one instead the CF do i need to CWM recovery from this guide?http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_i9100
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What you have to do is to flash this kernel via Odin Odin
- (USB) Disconnect your phone from your computer
- Start ODIN
- Click the PDA button, and select .tar file you've downloaded (Siyah in this case)
- Put your phone in download mode (google it if you dno't know how to)
- (USB) Connect the phone to your computer
- Make sure repartition is NOT checked
- Click the START button
- Wait for the phone to reboot
- Done (if it took you more than 30 seconds, you need practise!)
after this steps your phone is rooted and then you can install your custom firmware.
blackprophecy said:
What you have to do is to flash this kernel via Odin Odin
- (USB) Disconnect your phone from your computer
- Start ODIN
- Click the PDA button, and select .tar file you've downloaded (Siyah in this case)
- Put your phone in download mode (google it if you dno't know how to)
- (USB) Connect the phone to your computer
- Make sure repartition is NOT checked
- Click the START button
- Wait for the phone to reboot
- Done (if it took you more than 30 seconds, you need practise!)
after this steps your phone is rooted and then you can install your custom firmware.
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by firemware you mean recovery right?
and the guide i gave its okay? and do i need 100% battery?
sorry for bothering
eBay's said:
by firemware you mean recovery right?
and the guide i gave its okay? and do i need 100% battery?
sorry for bothering
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if you flash the Siyah kernel it automatically installs the a recovery. there is no need to install it separately.
you just have to download the zip file for your custom rom (Jelly Beer 4.18 in your case) and copy it to your external sd card.
then do this
blackprophecy said:
if you flash the Siyah kernel it automatically installs the a recovery. there is no need to install it separately.
you just have to download the zip file for your custom rom (Jelly Beer 4.18 in your case) and copy it to your external sd card.
then do this
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THANKYOU VERY MUCH BRO!
Crap! i dont have sd card! only the memory with 16gb in my phone
No problem you can put the zip file to the internal sd card.
this will do it.
blackprophecy said:
No problem you can put the zip file to the internal sd card.
this will do it.
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btw the siyha kernal 100% will work on the rom i have? look at the picture in the first message in the thread
blackprophecy said:
No problem you can put the zip file to the internal sd card.
this will do it.
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btw the siyha kernal 100% will work on the rom i have? look at the picture in the first message in the thread

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