Hello again dear xda members
I've been using S II for over 2 weeks now! I get the following(which many of you do get also). When I turn on WiFi and start surfing, the phone starts to overheat and battery is drained like a juice.
Well, after a long study, I've found out that it's the stock browser's fault!
Yeah! I opened WiFi, surfed a little and it started to heat up! Well, I was trying to download something, and since stock sucks at downloading( except if you add to it an app from the market called Downloadfiles) I opened DolphinHD!!
What I saw, or felt-whatever-, was just
After 5 minutes, the phone cooled down, temperature became normal and of course battery was less consumed!
So, to all people who have heat issues, it turns out(at least in my humble opinion) that it's the stock browser's fault!!!
Any thoughts anyone? Similar experiences?
I've been using it for 10 days and experienced no such overheating, but battery time should be much better.
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Really? It doesn't overheat never? even not when playing games?
I thought mine was faulty, but I went to couple of stores where they have it open for customers to play with, and I did the same as mine and it started to heat up!
Mine heats up a bit after playing a game or running a certain app for a while, but I never experience overheating with the stock browser. Though you should take in to consideration that the GS2 is a thin device, the CPU is close to your hands. Most phones also have to exessivly keep searching for connections because it is weak or something is blocking its way. The transmitting/receiving device is located at the top along with the CPU so it'll tend to get hot. Most smartphones do overall.
Also, the phone gets hotter while using it connected to a charger just because the battery is filling up the same time you are using it. Also, take in to consideration that no patch for true dualcore support has yet been released nor announced. Just some factors why the phone heats up.
thanks man!
Well, heating up is normal-as far as I read in here-... But when using Stock Browser, I'm talking about overheat! really! I believe it's a bug, since as said, nor Firefox, Dolphin and Skyfire(I use all of them) produce that issue! And I disabled flash content(thought that might make it better) but it was the same! Don't know!
Anyways, thanks for answering!
OVer wifi I have no problems. Over 3G is another story! and playing games is another story. It warms up every 5 minutes while playing games.
Yours too huh? well, mine does that on WiFi!
What is Overheating? How do you know it is overheating unless you know the temperature of the battery? Well OP and other posters who are saying the phone gets overheated please mention the temperature of it. The ambient temp of Europe/USA is 20-25°C Max, and if the device runs even cool then it will have temp around 30-32°C, that is much higher than the ambient temp and probably that's why you guys are feeling the phone is overheating but in fact it's not. Here in Calcutta, ambient is 32-33°C and the Phone temp in normal is the same, so we/I don't feel it's overheating, only when I surf net for an hour straight with charging then the temp rises up to 44-45°C, that's when it could be said that the phone is running on high temp, still for the hardware we are given 45°C is not hot.
So before saying the phone is overheating please check the battery temp.
Regards.
how do I measure battery temperature?
Ok, Battery life widget?
I'll measure then I'll let you know!
There is a reason stock browser uses more battery and heats more. It uses GPU to render pages more quickly! But for me even on stock it is not that hot, more than on other phones, but thats what you get for a thin phone.
Maybe somone will test battery life with stock+GPU and dolphin browser with no GPU. Maybe the difference is not that big at all, maybe just GPU heats more than CPU but uses same battery.
now let's not forget android doesn't have graphics acceleration, and without it the GPU has to work harder which generates more heat
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Ok, I get 41 to 45 °C degrees!
So, no overheat just heat!
So, based on what you're saying, this is normal?
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Ok, I get 41 to 45 °C degrees!
So, no overheat just heat!
So, based on what you're saying, this is normal?
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Your ambient is 27°C, right? So it's normal to me. Anything less than 50°C should be OK, imo.
Regards.
My ambient is 34 to 30 °C
Ok, so my phone is fine? Wow! !! thanks
that really made me happy!
I thought it was faulty
Thanks so much everyone for answering
Kostask11 said:
My ambient is 34 to 30 °C
Ok, so my phone is fine? Wow! !! thanks
that really made me happy!
I thought it was faulty
Thanks so much everyone for answering
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You are welcome. This is mine, phone is untouched for half an hour, my room temp is currently 28°C.
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I see! Then it's fine
thanks again! It's a big relief! I was coming from Omnia I and I was like wtf
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Your ambient is 27°C, right? So it's normal to me. Anything less than 50°C should be OK, imo.
Regards.
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Summer in Greece and sub-30-degrees Celsius don't go together.That's why we're hot!
Anyway,****ty joking aside,inside a bus today,under the sun with an ambient temperature of about 35-36 degrees(dunno how you put the degrees symbol pal ) and with my GPU overclocked at 400MHz with 1100mV using tegrak overclock ultimate,I played some Angry Birds and,although the phone reported no more than 44 degrees,it was very hot at the top.
My opinion?If you(or me obviously) manage to somehow burn/fry something,make sure to do it so bad that it doesn't even respond to Chuck Norris' roundhouse kick! That way maybe Sammy won't notice...Shush!
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Alt+0176.
Funny comment anyway.
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I was just curious if everyone's Atrix gets warm in the lower part of of the phone?
I've read on a few forums people just chalk it up the the dual core processor, but mine gets warm even if I'm doing something as simple as just reading Fox News. I don't know how that could be taxing the processor that much. I don't have much else running in memory which could be using a ton a resources.
Mine doesn't get hot, just pretty warm. I guess I am just suprised cause it's the only phone I've ever had that gets warm like that.
I tried our display model at work and it gets really warm also, so I guess exchanging my phone for another would probably amount to ending up with a new phone that does the same thing.
I was just wondering if it is common with everyone.
Yes, its a dual core phone so its to be expected.
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Yeah, mines gets warm too. Maybe try downloading SetCPU and limiting the processor's speed if you can't handle the heat
Anyways, its to be expected especially while running games or watching movies.
How hot is too hot? With fauxs newest kernel mine gets up to 70c
OCd at 1.3 on idle is at 51 celcius. I think its acceptable
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What are normal temps?
Also is there an app which will let me see the temp which works in the stock firmware?
I dropped back to the .7 kernel. My processor was getting way too hot at even 1.2 when under load. 70C+ is not good for any processor. Back to 1.1 for me.
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I dropped back to the .7 kernel. My processor was getting way too hot at even 1.2 when under load. 70C+ is not good for any processor. Back to 1.1 for me.
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Plus those temps are like a hot knife going through butter on the battery life...
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OCd at 1.3 on idle is at 51 celcius. I think its acceptable
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51C at IDLE?! Mine is at 42C!
What OC you have shouldn't matter, as your phone doesn't run at maximum frequency with maximum voltage unless you are actively using it!
But to answer the OP's question, my phone gets pretty warm too. I just read the temperature after watching a 5 minute HD video, and it was at 67C. If you are using the cellular radio i'd imagine it can get even warmer.
That means the dualcore is doing its job
Using setcpu and CPU stress testing & quadrant benchmarking for almost 2 hours straight one day, mine never exceeded 60C.
I think the 1.3OC(v1.9) kernel is wonderful, I've hit 4.9k scores on quadrant standard. It seems to be more friendly with the combination of setcpu & CM7 also, the later kernels kind of crippled my setcpu profiles and would cause my launcher to FC(I suspect?)
Phone idles at 34C.. probably lower because screen off my max freq is 216mhz(AMAZING BATTERY LIFE) in fact, i usually keep my proc throttled down to about 400mhz and don't crank it up until i need it(again. AMAZING BATTERY LIFE)
honestly... at 400mhz the phone still quite snappy.
51c? unnaceptable.
mine runs at about 30c most of the time.
however i did notice a strange issue that the phone gets alot hotter after you charge it and then unplug the charger, a reboot usually fixes this. i make it a habit of rebooting immediately after unplugging the charger and my phone stays most of the day between 30-33c
this also helps the battery life a lot, i can usually get by the end of the day with 60 to 80 percent left.
If you change your oil every 5k miles and put air in the tires and keep your fluids topped off you should be to.... ummm wrong forum. I though this was the nascar forum.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
Mine average on 58C to max at 62C.. Idles at 41C.. It's warm! I got used to it.
Has anyone considered the longevity of the phone and battery from the unit staying warm all the time?
Mine is pretty much warm the whole time it is in my hand when being used. Outside in the sun taking pictures even more so.
I don't think I have any runaway processes. After I restart the phone, I use a task killer to kill everything it boots up with initially. Everything which is needed, like about 4 things come right back up, so I excluded them. But I don't use to to autokill stuff. It's just when I boot up I noticed there are like 30 things started up for no reason being as I just turned off the phone.
I figured I know which ones need to be up cause they come right back up after being killed. But things like Google+, Maps, Gallery...etc...which I don't think need to be running at bootup I kill.
+1 on going back to 1.1... OC'd at 1.3 was killing battery and heating up like crazy! OC'd to 1.1 have no problem with UV, heat, and get 30+ hours battery life with moderate use.
It's not just the CPU/GPU usage what's heating up the Atrix...
That specific area of the Atrix contains CPU/GPU and also the GSM/3G/Wifi and Bluetooth radio chip, which can get really hot while broadcasting voice/data. Even if the radio is idle, if you are on a bad reception area it will be constantly searching for coverage and switching from 3G/4G to 2G, which creates heat and battery drain.
My .2 cents
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I was just curious if everyone's Atrix gets warm in the lower part of of the phone?
I've read on a few forums people just chalk it up the the dual core processor, but mine gets warm even if I'm doing something as simple as just reading Fox News. I don't know how that could be taxing the processor that much. I don't have much else running in memory which could be using a ton a resources.
Mine doesn't get hot, just pretty warm. I guess I am just suprised cause it's the only phone I've ever had that gets warm like that.
I tried our display model at work and it gets really warm also, so I guess exchanging my phone for another would probably amount to ending up with a new phone that does the same thing.
I was just wondering if it is common with everyone.
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It gets warm because Fox News sends messages directly from hell.
On a more serious note, mine gets warm if im playing games.
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When I go camping, if it rains I fire up galaxy on fire 2, and roast marshmallows with my phone. (Pillsbury dough boy giggle.)
I voided my warranty and your mum.
About a month ago i was running a bench marking program, antutu and my phone got really hot. Ever since then my battery gets really hot when ever i do anything remotely intensive, like playing any games or recording videos.
It gets pretty warm just surfing the web.
My battery life now is great if i dont do anything with my phone but make calls, but if i play a game or anything intensive the phone gets pretty hot and the battery life awful.
Now i can deplete my battery if i play a game for 45 min..
I just ran antutu 1 time and my phone turned off because of heat.
Has my battery given up the ghost?
Thanks
well for one I'd stop running benchmarks with that... there might be a bug or something that you/devs don't know about that is draining your phone.
how long have you had your phone? talk to htc about a replacement or something if it's really bad, don't mention the benchmark app though
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Just did a factory reset. So far the battery is still hot when doing anything remotely intensive.
Might have to take it into a Verizon store in the morning.
Its 4 months old..thx
I've noticed mine gets up to like 100F while playing a game.... how hot are we talking here?
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I've noticed mine gets up to like 100F while playing a game.... how hot are we talking here?
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I'm surfing the web and its at 104 deg. When running a benchmark program I have hit 120..
Right now my cpu is at 102 nd battery is at 89. I have kinda seen a battery drain since having it for 5 months
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I've noticed mine gets up to like 100F while playing a game.... how hot are we talking here?
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I'm surfing the web and its at 104 deg. When running a benchmark program I have hit 120..
edit just hit 108 while typing this.... Now 109
The app Du battery meter is reporting the voltage as 3.8v
Is this right?
I would go and get a new phone just to be safe to be honest. The sooner you do the more of a chance you have for them to replace it
Any update?
Bump. Interested to know the outcome as my friend is having a similar issue
Whats up XDA,
Like a lot of people here I'm having constant overheating issues. But, unlike others it's not just related to the camera. my device is noticeably warm to the touch when: listening to Google music, Surfing on Chrome. or any activity where the screen has to be on for 2-3 minutes. It idles at aprox. 93 degrees Fahrenheit all day.
My question is, would exchanging my device for another make any difference?
From what I hear, this issue basically stems from the glass case and the CPU. I really love this phone, and I dread switching to a corny S5 but if all these devices are like this I think I need to switch. Overheating always leads to a short life for electronics.
Thoughts?
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Whats up XDA,
Like a lot of people here I'm having constant overheating issues. But, unlike others it's not just related to the camera. my device is noticeably warm to the touch when: listening to Google music, Surfing on Chrome. or any activity where the screen has to be on for 2-3 minutes. It idles at aprox. 93 degrees Fahrenheit all day.
My question is, would exchanging my device for another make any difference?
From what I hear, this issue basically stems from the glass case and the CPU. I really love this phone, and I dread switching to a corny S5 but if all these devices are like this I think I need to switch. Overheating always leads to a short life for electronics.
Thoughts?
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They are not all like this. My phone only gets really warm during 4k or if I'm doing a large download over LTE, while doing a titaniuim backup, and gaming at the same time LOL. My phone rarely warms up.
seh6183 said:
They are not all like this. My phone only gets really warm during 4k or if I'm doing a large download over LTE, while doing a titaniuim backup, and gaming at the same time LOL. My phone rarely warms up.
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Thanks, what are you idle temps like?
apollostees said:
Thanks, what are you idle temps like?
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Don't know. What app are you using to check so we can make sure we do an accurate comparison?
Can't say my phone gets hot. It gets warm but nothing major. I've been using mime for about 10 mins just surfing and reading Tapatalk and I'm idling at 45-49deg C.
Have you eliminated background process from being the cause of your high temps? My Z2 only gets warm when playing games, streaming HD video, etc.
apollostees said:
Whats up XDA,
Like a lot of people here I'm having constant overheating issues. But, unlike others it's not just related to the camera. my device is noticeably warm to the touch when: listening to Google music, Surfing on Chrome. or any activity where the screen has to be on for 2-3 minutes. It idles at aprox. 93 degrees Fahrenheit all day.
My question is, would exchanging my device for another make any difference?
From what I hear, this issue basically stems from the glass case and the CPU. I really love this phone, and I dread switching to a corny S5 but if all these devices are like this I think I need to switch. Overheating always leads to a short life for electronics.
Thoughts?
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Hmm in a 72 degree room, you're worried about 93 degrees at idle? That's 33 degrees Celsius, which is not very high at all.
Unless you're having high CPU usage, there's nothing wrong with your device.
If the device gets warm to the touch faster than others notice, but otherwise acts the same, that's probably a GOOD thing. It means the phone is moving heat away from the SoC more quickly and not acting as an insulator.
Min never get hot only warm on 4k video for 7. 23 min and I am still on 402 room manufacturer 14w20
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They using a G3 for 5min then you'll find out what running hot is. The Z2 runs fine temperature wise.
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Min never get hot only warm on 4k video for 7. 23 min and I am still on 402 room manufacturer 14w20
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How do you find out your manufacturer number?
**Nevermind I found it**
I'm using a 14W22.
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It idles at aprox. 93 degrees Fahrenheit all day.
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You did not mention what app you used to measure this ?
And i take it you are referring to battery temps here.
Also mention what the ambient temperature is where you live.
Don't want to make a new thread for RMAing so sorry for hijacking this thread OP. My digitiser has been acting crazy recently, specifically as close to the right bezel as possible and nowhere else. The phone has not been subject to water or anything of that sort. Has a screen protector on it and a plastic clear case and has never been dropped. Glove mode is off so it isn't that either. Does anyone here think Sony would fix it under warranty? Locked bootloader/rooted with DRM keys intact so I can always revert to factory too thanks in advance for any replies!
Hi guys
I just bought my Z3TC this week. Overall I'm super happy to have it. However, I notice each time, after playing around with it for 15 ~20 minutes (Surfing, photo taking, gaming), the tablet gets really hot near the home button area.
I installed a temperature app and found that the CPU was at 66'C consistently and the Battery was at 45'C. It was hot to the touch, not to the point where I can't use the tablet, but when my palm rests near the home button area, the heat is noticeable. It's not just warm. The app (CPU temperature) didn't show any throttling of the CPU either.
I'm worried that the heat will cause damage to the tablet's battery and CPU lifespan.
Does anyone else have similar issues?
THanks
What games are you playing ? I haven't noticed any elevated temperatures in my device but then again I don't typically game.
Z3TC overheating *Help*
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What games are you playing ? I haven't noticed any elevated temperatures in my device but then again I don't typically game.
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Thanks for the response.
It was MMX racing.. just a simple 3d based game.
But I notice, the heat generated isn't just from gaming. It seems it's happening when I'm using any apps. Is it possible to throttle the CPU? Or do I have a defective version?
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Thanks for the response.
It was MMX racing.. just a simple 3d based game.
But I notice, the heat generated isn't just from gaming. It seems it's happening when I'm using any apps. Is it possible to throttle the CPU? Or do I have a defective version?
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From my understanding CPU throttling it controlled by the kernel and would therefore require root access.
Out of interest I downloaded and played dead trigger 2 after reading your post. My device certainly got warmer but it wasn't hot to touch. With the polymer backing I would be concerned of warping if you have excessive over heating, similar to the issues with the Galaxy Tab S.
If I can get some time I will monitor my temps over the next day or two and see what happens.
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From my understanding CPU throttling it controlled by the kernel and would therefore require root access.
Out of interest I downloaded and played dead trigger 2 after reading your post. My device certainly got warmer but it wasn't hot to touch. With the polymer backing I would be concerned of warping if you have excessive over heating, similar to the issues with the Galaxy Tab S.
If I can get some time I will monitor my temps over the next day or two and see what happens.
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Thank you diverblue! I'm going to continue researching other avenues to reduce heat. Will report back my findings as well.
Much appreciated for your time!
Happy New Years
That's hot as hell, when I'm playing games my battery temp is around 28C, will also check the CPU temps next time
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Jiyeon90 said:
That's hot as hell, when I'm playing games my battery temp is around 28C, will also check the CPU temps next time
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Thanks for the input.. it's starting to look like mine's a defective unit...
I've never heard anyone say the tablet heats up. I, myself, play games on the Z3 tablet compact, 3D / 2D / whatever D, sometimes even while downloading, the thing doesn't even know how to heat up, it's always like "nope bro, no heating up from me, u want heating up? Go get something with the Tegra K1 inside". Jokes aside, the thing seriously never heats up. Possibly a defective unit? I suppose you could ask the service center to take a look.
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I've never heard anyone say the tablet heats up. I, myself, play games on the Z3 tablet compact, 3D / 2D / whatever D, sometimes even while downloading, the thing doesn't even know how to heat up, it's always like "nope bro, no heating up from me, u want heating up? Go get something with the Tegra K1 inside". Jokes aside, the thing seriously never heats up. Possibly a defective unit? I suppose you could ask the service center to take a look.
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I played around with battery settings, installed apps, uninstalled apps.. Going to get it exchanged tomorrow...
Thanks for the input everyone.
Hi guys, this is something that keeps me up at night. The recent software update was supposed to make performance of the Moto Z better, and in actual daily usage I find nothing to complain about, but when it comes to benchmarks it's a whole different story, I have the uk version by the way. To be frank, I used to get about 129 000 in antutu, which is pretty low to start with, and now it's down to 126 000, geekbench is lower than you would expect from this phone too, at about 1350 single core and 3810 multicore. So basically I started this thread as a place where we could share our benchmark results and discuss them, because I have a feeling I just got an unlucky unit, because it also gets real hot real fast (up to 60 degrees celcium), and I can't make it last for more that 4 hours of screen on time, and I'm really not a heavy user. I just feel strange about this phone, because I love everything else about it, and it’s good that I do, because resale value on these things is beyond awful, tried to sell it for 500 bucks for months with no success.
Benchmarks mean abso-farking-lutly nothing. If they are keeping you up any night, you have a mental issue. I suggest you see a shrink.
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Benchmarks mean abso-farking-lutly nothing. If they are keeping you up any night, you have a mental issue. I suggest you see a shrink.
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Well, there is no reason to be so toxic my friend, my main concern is that I may be the only one here with such a low score, and since the score got even lower after some time that could mean I may have a defective device, and that would be a real problem to keep me up at night.
I don't think there's a problem with your unit, 4 hours screen on time sounds normal without the battery mod on. That drop in benchmark score isn't very significant unless it continues to drop dramatically. I have the UK model too, and it is underclocked by default to 1.8GHz. You could try the Turbo Z kernel to improve it
Also mine gets really hot fast when using Daydream VR or anything intensive but 60 °C isn't dangerous for the SD820. (You could check battery use in settings incase something is keeping your phone awake.)
Geekbench 4:
Single core 1369
Multi core 3779
Seems benchmarks are pretty similar. I'm on rooted Android N but stock kernel so same as yours.
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Well, there is no reason to be so toxic my friend, my main concern is that I may be the only one here with such a low score, and since the score got even lower after some time that could mean I may have a defective device, and that would be a real problem to keep me up at night.
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The only benchmark that matters is the one between your ears. And according to you, it passed.
in actual daily usage I find nothing to complain about
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All others are a waste of time.
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I don't think there's a problem with your unit, 4 hours screen on time sounds normal without the battery mod on. That drop in benchmark score isn't very significant unless it continues to drop dramatically. I have the UK model too, and it is underclocked by default to 1.8GHz. You could try the Turbo Z kernel to improve it
Also mine gets really hot fast when using Daydream VR or anything intensive but 60 °C isn't dangerous for the SD820. (You could check battery use in settings incase something is keeping your phone awake.)
Geekbench 4:
Single core 1369
Multi core 3779
Seems benchmarks are pretty similar. I'm on rooted Android N but stock kernel so same as yours.
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Thank you for your comforting and friendly reply, in battery settings Android OS, Android system, and phone idle are on top when I'm not using the phone actively, I've had laughable results sometimes, like yesterday I had 30 percent battery left with only about an hour of screen on time, again no gaming involved, but this usually happens when I'm moving around, if I stay at home and nothing happens to the phone it usually won't drain battery like that. I think the reason the phone gets hot easily is obviously because of how thin it is, for example, when I keep it in the pocket it's just as hot as my body tempreture, since it just absorbs heat that easily, but has a hard time getting rid of it.
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Thank you for your comforting and friendly reply, in battery settings Android OS, Android system, and phone idle are on top when I'm not using the phone actively, I've had laughable results sometimes, like yesterday I had 30 percent battery left with only about an hour of screen on time, again no gaming involved, but this usually happens when I'm moving around, if I stay at home and nothing happens to the phone it usually won't drain battery like that. I think the reason the phone gets hot easily is obviously because of how thin it is, for example, when I keep it in the pocket it's just as hot as my body tempreture, since it just absorbs heat that easily, but has a hard time getting rid of it.
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You're welcome. If you click on the graph you can see the awake time too, lately something has been keeping mine awake and draining the battery too. Not sure what it is yet, but if yours is getting really bad screen on time it could be similar. Likely an app running in the background keeping the phone awake which would heat it up more and drain the battery. There are wake lock detection apps that claim to be able to tell you which is causing this.
As you can see it's awake for long periods of time when the screen is off, and it really shouldn't be. Hope this helps :good: