[Q] Z3TC overheating *Help* - Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooti

Hi guys
I just bought my Z3TC this week. Overall I'm super happy to have it. However, I notice each time, after playing around with it for 15 ~20 minutes (Surfing, photo taking, gaming), the tablet gets really hot near the home button area.
I installed a temperature app and found that the CPU was at 66'C consistently and the Battery was at 45'C. It was hot to the touch, not to the point where I can't use the tablet, but when my palm rests near the home button area, the heat is noticeable. It's not just warm. The app (CPU temperature) didn't show any throttling of the CPU either.
I'm worried that the heat will cause damage to the tablet's battery and CPU lifespan.
Does anyone else have similar issues?
THanks

What games are you playing ? I haven't noticed any elevated temperatures in my device but then again I don't typically game.

Z3TC overheating *Help*
diverblue said:
What games are you playing ? I haven't noticed any elevated temperatures in my device but then again I don't typically game.
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Thanks for the response.
It was MMX racing.. just a simple 3d based game.
But I notice, the heat generated isn't just from gaming. It seems it's happening when I'm using any apps. Is it possible to throttle the CPU? Or do I have a defective version?

monk333y said:
Thanks for the response.
It was MMX racing.. just a simple 3d based game.
But I notice, the heat generated isn't just from gaming. It seems it's happening when I'm using any apps. Is it possible to throttle the CPU? Or do I have a defective version?
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From my understanding CPU throttling it controlled by the kernel and would therefore require root access.
Out of interest I downloaded and played dead trigger 2 after reading your post. My device certainly got warmer but it wasn't hot to touch. With the polymer backing I would be concerned of warping if you have excessive over heating, similar to the issues with the Galaxy Tab S.
If I can get some time I will monitor my temps over the next day or two and see what happens.

diverblue said:
From my understanding CPU throttling it controlled by the kernel and would therefore require root access.
Out of interest I downloaded and played dead trigger 2 after reading your post. My device certainly got warmer but it wasn't hot to touch. With the polymer backing I would be concerned of warping if you have excessive over heating, similar to the issues with the Galaxy Tab S.
If I can get some time I will monitor my temps over the next day or two and see what happens.
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Thank you diverblue! I'm going to continue researching other avenues to reduce heat. Will report back my findings as well.
Much appreciated for your time!
Happy New Years

That's hot as hell, when I'm playing games my battery temp is around 28C, will also check the CPU temps next time
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Jiyeon90 said:
That's hot as hell, when I'm playing games my battery temp is around 28C, will also check the CPU temps next time
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Thanks for the input.. it's starting to look like mine's a defective unit...

I've never heard anyone say the tablet heats up. I, myself, play games on the Z3 tablet compact, 3D / 2D / whatever D, sometimes even while downloading, the thing doesn't even know how to heat up, it's always like "nope bro, no heating up from me, u want heating up? Go get something with the Tegra K1 inside". Jokes aside, the thing seriously never heats up. Possibly a defective unit? I suppose you could ask the service center to take a look.

shaanyt said:
I've never heard anyone say the tablet heats up. I, myself, play games on the Z3 tablet compact, 3D / 2D / whatever D, sometimes even while downloading, the thing doesn't even know how to heat up, it's always like "nope bro, no heating up from me, u want heating up? Go get something with the Tegra K1 inside". Jokes aside, the thing seriously never heats up. Possibly a defective unit? I suppose you could ask the service center to take a look.
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I played around with battery settings, installed apps, uninstalled apps.. Going to get it exchanged tomorrow...
Thanks for the input everyone.

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[Q] Operating Temperature

Just had a quick question about the operating temperature of my atrix.
My previous phone was a captivate, which NEVER felt hot to the touch unless I ran the GPS for awhile.
It was the same for my Atrix until I ran a graphics intensive game for about an hour or so. It started to get hot while playing, so I stopped for awhile. Ever since then, it is almost always warm to the touch and is continuously operating at 50C+.
So, is this normal? What are everyone's operating temperatures?
Miine runs warm under higher stress. It is a dual core processor so heat will be higher then other phones
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ive never had a phone get this hot. this is how hot my pc gets lol. is this normal?
this result was after taking quite a few pictures with camera360 i noticed the bottom of the phone VERY hot.
these are about the temps that i get. it especially heats up when using data connection for web and not wifi. with wifi, it peaks at about 50c and on data connection it can go up to 57c.
ethantarheels123 said:
these are about the temps that i get. it especially heats up when using data connection for web and not wifi. with wifi, it peaks at about 50c and on data connection it can go up to 57c.
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yeah, i just use wifi and thats what gets it hot. and apps like camera >_<
Schultz_91 said:
Just had a quick question about the operating temperature of my atrix.
My previous phone was a captivate, which NEVER felt hot to the touch unless I ran the GPS for awhile.
It was the same for my Atrix until I ran a graphics intensive game for about an hour or so. It started to get hot while playing, so I stopped for awhile. Ever since then, it is almost always warm to the touch and is continuously operating at 50C+.
So, is this normal? What are everyone's operating temperatures?
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Strange how people have dif experiences. My Captivate was always hot always! It only runs slightly cooler now with one of the latest CM7 nightly.
My Atrix gets warm sometimes but I never have the extreme heat other users report. I dont use and task killers, only watchdog to monitor for runaway apps. I do use a Commuter on both.
My phone only saw the 50's when I left it charging under a pillow.When to ATT store and got it replaced.Replacement phone runs all day at 35C never seen it go past that.
And do use a commuter case aswell.
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Hmmm. My tempstature is 50°C at idle, while connected to WiFi. Is that bad?
EDIT: Well no, it goes back down to about 38° when you leave it for a while. But 50° temps are quite common.
61° after a few games of Fruit Ninja. That seems like it shouldn't happen.
MdX MaxX said:
61° after a few games of Fruit Ninja. That seems like it shouldn't happen.
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yepp even little games get mine hot. maybe it could be that we dont have software optimized for our hardware, that could effect it. who knows.
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we dont have software optimized for our hardware
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Its my understanding that the Atrix IS running a dual core optimized version of Android 2.2. Afaik our current version of Blur is NOT dual core optimized, but Im not 100% on that. Is Blur what you are referring to.? Also, apps have to be written to take advantage of both cores, so if the app wasn't specifically programmed to run on dual core it will run on just one.
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61° after a few games of Fruit Ninja. That seems like it shouldn't happen.
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I've started a thread early today because of this issue. Soon as I started playing games on my Atrix I got pretty scared with the temperature I felt on the exterior, and more scared after using temp. monitor apps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1249757
The idea is to mod the phone to help dissipating heat. Besides undervolting with setcpu I guess there isnt much that can be done at software level to reduce the main chip's heat.
The ideas are still being formulated. I opened the thread so I could get some help and suggestion from other atrix owners, to have a good idea of what to do when I finally open my phone
could drill some tiny holes in the battery cover / just throwing that out there
unlocked bootloader att. atrix. honeycomb rom. faux oc kernal
Did a bunch of looking around and after a while found some white papers with the following temperature ranges:
General operating temps of -40C to +85C.
Practical usage will start to drop off below -20C and above +70C.
This tells me that our safe operating range should be limited to the practical usage temperatures. Anything outside of these and there is a good chance you will see performance drop off fast, and also may suffer hardware lockups, etc.
Personally I will stick to +65C which is the rule of thumb I go by with my PC's under full load.
<edit> <edit> I would also add that while our phones are not desktops/laptops/workstations, the CPU's can all handle around the same temperatures in all devices. Materials used and manufacturing techniques are almost identical. The solder used has a melting point of around 180C - 190C, so there is no fear of melting the solder. The main difference is that phones do not have active cooling, so you will see much larger jumps and swings in temperature. This being the reason you cannot OC in the extreme ways you can with PC's.
My rule of thumb is to keep my phone under 50c Max. The battey chewing alone is bad enough above 45c.
Ideally, I try to keep my phone below 40c whenever possible.
If it's a constant problem, then I usually try to find a different modem or fw. Which can make one heck of a difference...
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Battery drain+Heat=Wifi+Stock Browser, please read

Hello again dear xda members
I've been using S II for over 2 weeks now! I get the following(which many of you do get also). When I turn on WiFi and start surfing, the phone starts to overheat and battery is drained like a juice.
Well, after a long study, I've found out that it's the stock browser's fault!
Yeah! I opened WiFi, surfed a little and it started to heat up! Well, I was trying to download something, and since stock sucks at downloading( except if you add to it an app from the market called Downloadfiles) I opened DolphinHD!!
What I saw, or felt-whatever-, was just
After 5 minutes, the phone cooled down, temperature became normal and of course battery was less consumed!
So, to all people who have heat issues, it turns out(at least in my humble opinion) that it's the stock browser's fault!!!
Any thoughts anyone? Similar experiences?
I've been using it for 10 days and experienced no such overheating, but battery time should be much better.
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Really? It doesn't overheat never? even not when playing games?
I thought mine was faulty, but I went to couple of stores where they have it open for customers to play with, and I did the same as mine and it started to heat up!
Mine heats up a bit after playing a game or running a certain app for a while, but I never experience overheating with the stock browser. Though you should take in to consideration that the GS2 is a thin device, the CPU is close to your hands. Most phones also have to exessivly keep searching for connections because it is weak or something is blocking its way. The transmitting/receiving device is located at the top along with the CPU so it'll tend to get hot. Most smartphones do overall.
Also, the phone gets hotter while using it connected to a charger just because the battery is filling up the same time you are using it. Also, take in to consideration that no patch for true dualcore support has yet been released nor announced. Just some factors why the phone heats up.
thanks man!
Well, heating up is normal-as far as I read in here-... But when using Stock Browser, I'm talking about overheat! really! I believe it's a bug, since as said, nor Firefox, Dolphin and Skyfire(I use all of them) produce that issue! And I disabled flash content(thought that might make it better) but it was the same! Don't know!
Anyways, thanks for answering!
OVer wifi I have no problems. Over 3G is another story! and playing games is another story. It warms up every 5 minutes while playing games.
Yours too huh? well, mine does that on WiFi!
What is Overheating? How do you know it is overheating unless you know the temperature of the battery? Well OP and other posters who are saying the phone gets overheated please mention the temperature of it. The ambient temp of Europe/USA is 20-25°C Max, and if the device runs even cool then it will have temp around 30-32°C, that is much higher than the ambient temp and probably that's why you guys are feeling the phone is overheating but in fact it's not. Here in Calcutta, ambient is 32-33°C and the Phone temp in normal is the same, so we/I don't feel it's overheating, only when I surf net for an hour straight with charging then the temp rises up to 44-45°C, that's when it could be said that the phone is running on high temp, still for the hardware we are given 45°C is not hot.
So before saying the phone is overheating please check the battery temp.
Regards.
how do I measure battery temperature?
Ok, Battery life widget?
I'll measure then I'll let you know!
There is a reason stock browser uses more battery and heats more. It uses GPU to render pages more quickly! But for me even on stock it is not that hot, more than on other phones, but thats what you get for a thin phone.
Maybe somone will test battery life with stock+GPU and dolphin browser with no GPU. Maybe the difference is not that big at all, maybe just GPU heats more than CPU but uses same battery.
now let's not forget android doesn't have graphics acceleration, and without it the GPU has to work harder which generates more heat
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Ok, I get 41 to 45 °C degrees!
So, no overheat just heat!
So, based on what you're saying, this is normal?
Kostask11 said:
Ok, I get 41 to 45 °C degrees!
So, no overheat just heat!
So, based on what you're saying, this is normal?
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Your ambient is 27°C, right? So it's normal to me. Anything less than 50°C should be OK, imo.
Regards.
My ambient is 34 to 30 °C
Ok, so my phone is fine? Wow! !! thanks
that really made me happy!
I thought it was faulty
Thanks so much everyone for answering
Kostask11 said:
My ambient is 34 to 30 °C
Ok, so my phone is fine? Wow! !! thanks
that really made me happy!
I thought it was faulty
Thanks so much everyone for answering
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You are welcome. This is mine, phone is untouched for half an hour, my room temp is currently 28°C.
Regards.
I see! Then it's fine
thanks again! It's a big relief! I was coming from Omnia I and I was like wtf
ithehappy said:
Your ambient is 27°C, right? So it's normal to me. Anything less than 50°C should be OK, imo.
Regards.
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Summer in Greece and sub-30-degrees Celsius don't go together.That's why we're hot!
Anyway,****ty joking aside,inside a bus today,under the sun with an ambient temperature of about 35-36 degrees(dunno how you put the degrees symbol pal ) and with my GPU overclocked at 400MHz with 1100mV using tegrak overclock ultimate,I played some Angry Birds and,although the phone reported no more than 44 degrees,it was very hot at the top.
My opinion?If you(or me obviously) manage to somehow burn/fry something,make sure to do it so bad that it doesn't even respond to Chuck Norris' roundhouse kick! That way maybe Sammy won't notice...Shush!
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(dunno how you put the degrees symbol pal )
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Alt+0176.
Funny comment anyway.

[Q] Is it okay for android phones to heat up ?

I have a sony xperia s , and when playing graphic hungry games the phone heats up .
now i understand that the game demands resources from the Gpu and cpu ..
but is it healthy to play a lot of games on the phone ?
what will become damaged ? ( if its not healty )
Thanks a lot any help is appreciated .
Devices will sometimes heat up in normal use but excessive heat for prolonged periods of time can be damaging. Depending on how warm it gets though, you are probably fine.
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Hi, I find the same problem sometimes. Heat is to be expected as there is no active cooling like for example on a desktop CPU or GPU. If you're worried about it just quit the app after playing for so long and let it cool down as I find the heat makes it hard to use the phone anyway. One suggestion that may help is switch off your WiFi and 3g when gaming. Honestly if your phone isnt over clocked I wouldn't worry as it should be able to cope with how Sony has configured it.
yeah mine isn't over clocked , i fear overclocking it .. i feel its like cooking your own cpu , logically it might damage it right ?
there's this one game called : "bombshells" the phone really heats up on it .
I didn't download it from the playstore because its not available for my device/country so i got the apk , could it be compatibility issues ? although im dead sure my device can handle it smoothly .
I used to notice significant heat from my HTC Desire and Samsung Galaxy S2 when gaming. I didn't overclock either but they both got really very hot to touch. My Samsung Galaxy S3 doesn't for some reason (even when overclocked) and my Nexus 7 does get very hot when gaming. I think there isn't anything to worry about. If you've not overclocked it surely can't affect your warranty either.
heat
heat can be a problem yes, there was an app i think that tells you the temp.
Obvious thing to do is to exit the app and shut the phone down till it cools down ,it is normal for any phone to become like that if games ,apps etc are cpu hungry etc
The first thing to break will be the battery, and that'll happen around 45 Celsius. Just stay below that and you'll be fine.
Keeping a low brightness and play without the protection case. I know that my AMOLED screen is the main cause of heat.. Heats up the battery, CPU and screen radiate heat too... phones are too small and too powerful for an optimal temperature. Brightness at minimum is a must I think.
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graemeakerby said:
I used to notice significant heat from my HTC Desire and Samsung Galaxy S2 when gaming. I didn't overclock either but they both got really very hot to touch. My Samsung Galaxy S3 doesn't for some reason (even when overclocked) and my Nexus 7 does get very hot when gaming. I think there isn't anything to worry about. If you've not overclocked it surely can't affect your warranty either.
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Some games require high end devices to run smoothly and not cause any problems.. In your case, SGS3 didn't cause any since its a Quad Core device and is capable of handling high graphics games..
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heat can be a problem yes, there was an app i think that tells you the temp.
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Kernel Tuner..
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Jay-kesrwani said:
I have a sony xperia s , and when playing graphic hungry games the phone heats up .
now i understand that the game demands resources from the Gpu and cpu ..
but is it healthy to play a lot of games on the phone ?
what will become damaged ? ( if its not healty )
Thanks a lot any help is appreciated .
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I have an SXS too.. But you will have to understand that our phone uses Snapdragon S3 processor which is normal to get hot since its the way it was built.. It gets hot soon and makes the phone slow.. U can google about it and read everything related to it.. And its alright to play games on your phone.. But on any Android phone, i suggest u play for around 15-30mins max when u r playing high end games with lots of graphics.. And then give a 30 min break and then continue to play.. Use kernel tuner and check your CPU and Battery temperature.. If they are above 45 degrees, let it cool down.. And i have to say, the latest .96 fw has no issue of heating.. I have played NFS MW and Asphalt 8.. Although Asphalt 8 causes some heat, other high end games never made my phone heat up.. U can try the ROM with a clean install..
devices normall heat up while running apps that use hardware acceleration.
if no app is running, the device ideally shouldnt heat
up.
Thanks for your reply. i got my Nexus 5 now,same thing about heat in games or while on HDMI - thats normal so
got xperia s too, custom rom, cpu overclocked to 1916mhz, play alot on it over longer periods of time too (2 hours) nothing bad happened to it for a year i got it so... working as intended?
Galaxy Note I717 here, heats up after around 5 songs on Cytus while playing in an air conditioned room. Prolonged use (i.e. 15 to 30 minutes non-stop) also causes it to heat up to around the same temperature. OEMs should really make it a point to put cooling systems on all their devices.

X+ overheating issues thread

Do other hox+ owners also have overheating issues?
Before i bought the hox+ i read many articles about the older one x and the fix for overheating.
I bought the device after it came out and thought that htc cannot make the same mistake again.
Well the device is really awesome thats a fact. But honestly, the non-eco mode is pretty useless as the hox drains the battery
so damn fast. I tried to play Wild Blood in eco mode and it was pretty choppy. Turning off the eco mode just made the game run a few fps faster
and made it as hot as my heater in the night time.
Do you guys also experienced this issue? I'm not sure if 49 - 51 degrees are counted as "too hot" but the device is blinking red and green and
it doesn't feel comfortable to hold the device for too long. I don't even want to mention the gameplay while charging. after around 10 minutes i lost about 10% WHILE CHARGING.
So far i just saw the battery stats thread there but no one really mentioned the temperature while gaming. Would be nice if you guys could share your gaming experience in this thread.
Cheers
Toshi
Toshimitsu said:
Do other hox+ owners also have overheating issues?
Before i bought the hox+ i read many articles about the older one x and the fix for overheating.
I bought the device after it came out and thought that htc cannot make the same mistake again.
Well the device is really awesome thats a fact. But honestly, the non-eco mode is pretty useless as the hox drains the battery
so damn fast. I tried to play Wild Blood in eco mode and it was pretty choppy. Turning off the eco mode just made the game run a few fps faster
and made it as hot as my heater in the night time.
Do you guys also experienced this issue? I'm not sure if 49 - 51 degrees are counted as "too hot" but the device is blinking red and green and
it doesn't feel comfortable to hold the device for too long. I don't even want to mention the gameplay while charging. after around 10 minutes i lost about 10% WHILE CHARGING.
So far i just saw the battery stats thread there but no one really mentioned the temperature while gaming. Would be nice if you guys could share your gaming experience in this thread.
Cheers
Toshi
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Woah i've never seen blinking lights cus it got too hot??? Then again i beat Wild Blood on my iPhone 4 when it first came out and only took me about an hour, lol. Joke of a game, great graphics gameplay blah blah blah but storyline literally takes an hour to beat the game. Then what, no reply value and a waste of space on your device.
Anyways, it's gameloft for 1, they are not and most likely never will be very compatible with tegra devices, that's just how it is. 2. This is a hard working machine bro, it takes a lot of load because it can and have you seen any ventilation on this device or fans installed? Yeah, lack of all that where else is the heat to go? Just glad i have a 1yr manf. warranty and insurance with ATT on this puppy so when it blows itself up one day i get a new one .
I've never turned off power saving mode and play tegra 3 specific games with zero lag! I've also never not once had my device get very hot. At maybe 2 times playing Bard's Tale for about 40min straight and having 5 other apps in the background it started getting 'warm', not at all would i define it as hot. I've watched Netflix movies for 1.5hr straight on power saving mode, device didn't even get warm and not 1 flicker in performance or quality over wifi.
If anything maybe you got a bunk device? If you can't watch netflix or a movie on this thing without it getting really hot and lights flashing like you say, sounds like a bunk phone to me bro. If you can though, it's only stupid gameloft let me take all your money just to play our games that have no replay value and only take an hour to beat, then you have nothing to worry about. Get some tegra games bro, that's what this device is about and once you go tegra games you don't go back, lol!
thanks for your feedback deeznuts. Well except some gameloft games others run pretty smooth in eco mode. It really might be a bad implementation or incompatibility with tegra3. But you are right. I'd say that games like riptide gp look pretty good and do not consume much more batterylife than browsing. Watching movies is also no problem. Mass Effect is also such a batterykiller like wild blood that turns my device into a hot potato.
You are also right that its a fast device without a cooler. But compared to the current iphone generation or the snapdragons it seems pretty hot.
I guess apple did the right thing to patent a cooler for smartphones haha.
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thanks for your feedback deeznuts. Well except some gameloft games others run pretty smooth in eco mode. It really might be a bad implementation or incompatibility with tegra3. But you are right. I'd say that games like riptide gp look pretty good and do not consume much more batterylife than browsing. Watching movies is also no problem. Mass Effect is also such a batterykiller like wild blood that turns my device into a hot potato.
You are also right that its a fast device without a cooler. But compared to the current iphone generation or the snapdragons it seems pretty hot.
I guess apple did the right thing to patent a cooler for smartphones haha.
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Yep but the more wrong things Apple chooses to do far outweighs the good, lol! Reason being not upgrading to iPhone 5 and more then happy with this device
Toshimitsu said:
thanks for your feedback deeznuts. Well except some gameloft games others run pretty smooth in eco mode. It really might be a bad implementation or incompatibility with tegra3. But you are right. I'd say that games like riptide gp look pretty good and do not consume much more batterylife than browsing. Watching movies is also no problem. Mass Effect is also such a batterykiller like wild blood that turns my device into a hot potato.
You are also right that its a fast device without a cooler. But compared to the current iphone generation or the snapdragons it seems pretty hot.
I guess apple did the right thing to patent a cooler for smartphones haha.
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To be fair to nvidia. Snapdragon is 4th gen chip built on 10 years of development. Even the GPU adreno started life as an AMD built chip. Many years ago.
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AndroHero said:
To be fair to nvidia. Snapdragon is 4th gen chip built on 10 years of development. Even the GPU adreno started life as an AMD built chip. Many years ago.
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Well put!
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AndroHero said:
To be fair to nvidia. Snapdragon is 4th gen chip built on 10 years of development. Even the GPU adreno started life as an AMD built chip. Many years ago.
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Thats a true statement. Its hard to develop comparable chip in less than 5 years.
I just made a few benchmarks and found out that its really the gpu only that is producing the most of the heat. It seems that
Antutu Tester is just stressing the cpu cores but not gpu at all(powersaving off). At least the device stay slightly warm but not as hot as gaming in powersaving mode.
Actually does the powersaving mode also underclocks the gpu or/and the memory or just limiting the cpu to 1,3ghz?
I have attached a few photos taken with a Thermal Imaging Camera of the front and back before and after playing about 10 minutes of Avengers and Dead Trigger. The before photos arent entirely representative of the idle temperatures as I had been using the phone before taking the photos. Also, the colours are not consistently calibrated so a the same colour on two pics doesnt represent the same temperature. One last caveat, I didnt spend time to properly align the normal image with the thermal image.
from what i noticed any high graphics games or game using core power causes to overheat. like need for speed most wanted a few minutes and i can feel the heat of the unit i hope it can be fixed soon.
I don't seem to have any overheating issues but then again i very seldom play games on my phone...Day to day use like browsing watching videos the phone remains cool to warm.
The only time where i felt the phone got hot was when i tried watching high bit-rate 720p mkv using mx player and software decoding. but the phone never got too hot that it become uncomfortable to touch
Thanks alot for posting those pictures. Its getting really hot. I mean if the surface reaches over 40 degrees, how hot must it be inside the phone?
On the other side there is a nice decrease of temp visible in the lower area of the device. Maybe HTC really took it all in account and it really just gets hot but doesn't really affect the Battery.
Actually the batterylife isn't that bad. Today i charged it and it played pirates of the carribean 3 times and something in 720p on mx player (without sound as i didnt had dts codec). The battery went from 100% to 9% after 7.5 hours. Brightness on auto and data and sync turned on(2G).
i am having international version of One X+, no doubt the phone is amazing but not good for playing games or for VIOP calls,
it gets hot within no time when having these activities results unbearable for ears or hands.. any solution ? does HTC knows about it ?
zahid
It's a quad-core phone its normal to get hot with power hungry games ,plus 42c is not really hot . Now if your phone over heats when iddle I mean 52c + and the light are blinking green and orange than yeah its an issue send it to HTC
it happened to me once when i was playing bad piggies for an extended amount of time. and by extended i mean like 30 mins. it was crazy hot and i thought the flashing lights is a notification but later found out that it got too hot.
seriously nVidia, wtf are you doing
My phone doesn`t get much hotter than my old evo 3d even during intesive 3d gaming like nova 3, avengers initiative and sonic 4 just to name a few. It gets hot but not to the point where it starts to burn my figners, my laptop can do this. Sometimes the led start flashing red and green but even in that case the exterior of the phone is only around 35-40 degrees. The phone will automatically turn off if it overheats, that is when you have to worry about overheating and reporting to HTC, so do not worry about damaging it.
ryanjsoo said:
My phone doesn`t get much hotter than my old evo 3d even during intesive 3d gaming like nova 3, avengers initiative and sonic 4 just to name a few. It gets hot but not to the point where it starts to burn my figners, my laptop can do this. Sometimes the led start flashing red and green but even in that case the exterior of the phone is only around 35-40 degrees. The phone will automatically turn off if it overheats, that is when you have to worry about overheating and reporting to HTC, so do not worry about damaging it.
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Do you play it in saving mode? i tried to play mass effect without saving mode and it took me around 15-20 minutes until the game crashed.
The battery indicator app said overheated with 50.8 degrees. According to HTC it shouldn't be a problem at all:HTC's statement
“If the phone is in normal use without playing games or calling for long time, the temperature should be around 37°C or 38°C.
But if you use your phone to play games or surfing internet for a long time, it will be normal that the temperature rises to around 55°C.“
Why the hell does the game crash then and several apps
are warning me about overheating???
Toshimitsu said:
Do you play it in saving mode? i tried to play mass effect without saving mode and it took me around 15-20 minutes until the game crashed.
The battery indicator app said overheated with 50.8 degrees. According to HTC it shouldn't be a problem at all:HTC's statement
“If the phone is in normal use without playing games or calling for long time, the temperature should be around 37°C or 38°C.
But if you use your phone to play games or surfing internet for a long time, it will be normal that the temperature rises to around 55°C.“
Why the hell does the game crash then and several apps
are warning me about overheating???
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You probably won`t believe me but running games in power save mode actually increases performance, because one cpu doesn`t ramp up as much it forces the other cores to kick in, this means that you have more cores running at a lower clock speed which equates to similar power consumption but far less heat, the reason why games lag is because the cpu is linked to the gpu and throttling when the chip gets too hot, you can desynchronise the gpu by using the renovate gaming boost app however you must be rooted first, great app, most aggressive min frees, optimizes cpu governor automatically and boosts gpu clock (decouples), also the tegra 3 chip was designed to go in and out of its thermal limit.
I've overheated on a few occasions now, all running a quite simple app (in my eyes) - CoPilot satnav!
Plus I loose more battery than the car charger can provide!!!
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targett said:
I've overheated on a few occasions now, all running a quite simple app (in my eyes) - CoPilot satnav!
Plus I loose more battery than the car charger can provide!!!
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well its as everyone has said its a 1.7Ghz quad core phone, its going to get hot its not like your std laptop or desktop with fans and cooling now is it
WigglesGRN said:
well its as everyone has said its a 1.7Ghz quad core phone, its going to get hot its not like your std laptop or desktop with fans and cooling now is it
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Like everyone had said it's a quad core etc, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah...
But why should we just accept it as a norm?! It's not right to make something and sell it as your new flagship when it has a MAJOR design fault by overheating so easily.
If HTC knew it would overheat then a redesign should have been done to allow for heat dissipation???
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Hi guys, this is something that keeps me up at night. The recent software update was supposed to make performance of the Moto Z better, and in actual daily usage I find nothing to complain about, but when it comes to benchmarks it's a whole different story, I have the uk version by the way. To be frank, I used to get about 129 000 in antutu, which is pretty low to start with, and now it's down to 126 000, geekbench is lower than you would expect from this phone too, at about 1350 single core and 3810 multicore. So basically I started this thread as a place where we could share our benchmark results and discuss them, because I have a feeling I just got an unlucky unit, because it also gets real hot real fast (up to 60 degrees celcium), and I can't make it last for more that 4 hours of screen on time, and I'm really not a heavy user. I just feel strange about this phone, because I love everything else about it, and it’s good that I do, because resale value on these things is beyond awful, tried to sell it for 500 bucks for months with no success.
Benchmarks mean abso-farking-lutly nothing. If they are keeping you up any night, you have a mental issue. I suggest you see a shrink.
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Benchmarks mean abso-farking-lutly nothing. If they are keeping you up any night, you have a mental issue. I suggest you see a shrink.
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Well, there is no reason to be so toxic my friend, my main concern is that I may be the only one here with such a low score, and since the score got even lower after some time that could mean I may have a defective device, and that would be a real problem to keep me up at night.
I don't think there's a problem with your unit, 4 hours screen on time sounds normal without the battery mod on. That drop in benchmark score isn't very significant unless it continues to drop dramatically. I have the UK model too, and it is underclocked by default to 1.8GHz. You could try the Turbo Z kernel to improve it
Also mine gets really hot fast when using Daydream VR or anything intensive but 60 °C isn't dangerous for the SD820. (You could check battery use in settings incase something is keeping your phone awake.)
Geekbench 4:
Single core 1369
Multi core 3779
Seems benchmarks are pretty similar. I'm on rooted Android N but stock kernel so same as yours.
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Well, there is no reason to be so toxic my friend, my main concern is that I may be the only one here with such a low score, and since the score got even lower after some time that could mean I may have a defective device, and that would be a real problem to keep me up at night.
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The only benchmark that matters is the one between your ears. And according to you, it passed.
in actual daily usage I find nothing to complain about
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All others are a waste of time.
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supacrazyguy42 said:
I don't think there's a problem with your unit, 4 hours screen on time sounds normal without the battery mod on. That drop in benchmark score isn't very significant unless it continues to drop dramatically. I have the UK model too, and it is underclocked by default to 1.8GHz. You could try the Turbo Z kernel to improve it
Also mine gets really hot fast when using Daydream VR or anything intensive but 60 °C isn't dangerous for the SD820. (You could check battery use in settings incase something is keeping your phone awake.)
Geekbench 4:
Single core 1369
Multi core 3779
Seems benchmarks are pretty similar. I'm on rooted Android N but stock kernel so same as yours.
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Thank you for your comforting and friendly reply, in battery settings Android OS, Android system, and phone idle are on top when I'm not using the phone actively, I've had laughable results sometimes, like yesterday I had 30 percent battery left with only about an hour of screen on time, again no gaming involved, but this usually happens when I'm moving around, if I stay at home and nothing happens to the phone it usually won't drain battery like that. I think the reason the phone gets hot easily is obviously because of how thin it is, for example, when I keep it in the pocket it's just as hot as my body tempreture, since it just absorbs heat that easily, but has a hard time getting rid of it.
HelloMoto777 said:
Thank you for your comforting and friendly reply, in battery settings Android OS, Android system, and phone idle are on top when I'm not using the phone actively, I've had laughable results sometimes, like yesterday I had 30 percent battery left with only about an hour of screen on time, again no gaming involved, but this usually happens when I'm moving around, if I stay at home and nothing happens to the phone it usually won't drain battery like that. I think the reason the phone gets hot easily is obviously because of how thin it is, for example, when I keep it in the pocket it's just as hot as my body tempreture, since it just absorbs heat that easily, but has a hard time getting rid of it.
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You're welcome. If you click on the graph you can see the awake time too, lately something has been keeping mine awake and draining the battery too. Not sure what it is yet, but if yours is getting really bad screen on time it could be similar. Likely an app running in the background keeping the phone awake which would heat it up more and drain the battery. There are wake lock detection apps that claim to be able to tell you which is causing this.
As you can see it's awake for long periods of time when the screen is off, and it really shouldn't be. Hope this helps :good:

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