Hello m8's
1) i am on Lite.romv1.4 now say i want to mig to a diff rom which does
a full wipe , so i'll take the back up(via cwm recovery)
-now that backup is stored on my int. storage , even if i move it to some
other place say my system , at the time of restore can we do it directly
from the system(point is does the backup file needs to be there in the
device storage(int or ext) at the time of restore - assuming device is
connected)
2)now when a diff rom is loaded (which has done full wipe) ,
-any other way can i get my prev data and app installed settings without
restore
-and if i do restore what exact will happen , mean ,will my prev app and data
settings get restored on top of new rom or something else?
3)How to get cwm recovery menu screen from PHONE Switched OFF state?
4)how can i delete samsung hub apps by editing system and framework files?
(assuming i have req explorer)
Thanks in advance
Cheers
EDIT:so it's not a noob query
anyone can throw some light
c'mmon guys am in dark here
Me no understand could you translate into easy to understand .
jje
Titanium Backup will do everything you asked for (I recomment the Pro version and you MUST be rooted).
It will backup and restore apps and data, and will also freeze or uninstall any app.
It's on the market for free, but I really do recommend paying the small amount for the full version.
johncmolyneux said:
Titanium Backup will do everything you asked for (I recomment the Pro version and you MUST be rooted).
It will backup and restore apps and data, and will also freeze or uninstall any app.
It's on the market for free, but I really do recommend paying the small amount for the full version.
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+1 Ti is one of the few apps I would recommend to anyone that wants to flash roms. You can backup all your apps and settings before a flash and then restore quickly and easily. The freeze function is very handy also. IMO you buy this one and never look back. A MUST HAVE.
A nand backup will be used to restore the phone as it already exists. It does not backup apps and settings specifically but you can pull apks and such out of one. Basically you do a nand before you start playing around and if you screw something up or just take an instant dislike to the new rom you flashed you can go into recovery and restore that nand and your phone will be just like you never did anything. It will not however back up your radio.
What I do is backup a few apps data separately and then go into Ti and backup all my apps and system data. I boot into recovery and I make a nand. Then I go over to usb storage and I move the entire contents of the sd over to my computer. This will have both the nand and the Ti backup on it. I delete the entire internal storage after I have taken a quick look to make sure that the backup on my pc is good. This gives me a completely fresh base to start a new rom from. Once I have the new rom flashed I move my ti backup over and restore. I then move the other data that the backup contains that I want back on the phone over and I'm up and running. I keep my music and other stuff that is just going to move from one flash to the next on my sd card as it isnt wiped in the process even if you do a hard reset and it can just stay there without the hassle of backing it up and restoring it. Do not delete your backup until you are sure that you have everything you may want back across to your phone. I usually keep it until the next rom when I start the process over with a new backup.
@JJEgan - which part
@johncmolyneux ,@krabman - thnx guys
so int. usb storage will also be wiped in the process, right?
also can u clarify
- How to get cwm recovery menu screen from PHONE Switched OFF state(like we see by using the function from cwm app -> reboot into CWM rec)
- how can i delete samsung hub apps by editing system and framework files(or if any other file for that matter)?
(assuming i have req explorer)
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Hi there,
About a month ago I bought an HTC Thunderbolt and somebody helped me root the phone. Since then I have had some family emergency/issues that have caused me to put programming the phone on hold. Now that they have cleared up I am trying to now learn a little bit more about upgrading Rom/Kernel/Radio.
I am running the following:
Android 2.2.1
Baseband version 1.16.00.0223r
Kernel 2.6.32.21_bamf4.4.2....
Build 1.13.605.7Das Bamf 1.5 Remix
Software 1.13.605.7
Can somebody tell me how to backup my phone entirely?
I would like to back it up with the intent:
* Install different kernel/radio/rom and keep the same android apps without reinstalling
each one individually.
or
* Restore the phone to its current state (if I should drop the phone and get a
replacement).
I do have titanium backup pro installed but it has never been used. Is this all I need?
I seem to recall that there is a backup feature on this phone that was discouraged....
Thanks in advance...
Anthony
The key for me is to
Use Nandroid (the backup feature in recovery) for a full image backup. Use Titanium to backup individual applications.
Before restoring nandroid backups, be sure to wipe cache and Dalvik (under advanced in recovery).
Nandroid takes nearly the entire phone back to the point of backup (houses everything you have on your phone's internal memory). Titanium allows backups to be restored on different roms. Some apps and many system apps don't play nicely with Titanium, but most from the market do play nicely with it.
Installing new kernels doesn't require wiping your data. Installing new/updated roms does. Installing themes usually does not, but there are exceptions.
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Thank you for the explanation.
When you refer to Nandroid & recovery feature, you are referring to Clockworkmod?
Per your input I updated to Rom Manager PRO and then simply selected "Backup Current ROM". I assume that this covers everything on the phone including radio/kernel/apps....
If there is anything else I need to do, please let me know.
Thanks again...
Yes, CWM is how you want to backup your phone entirely. I would recommend going into recovery and making a backup on your own instead of hitting the "backup my current rom" button in rom manager. The backup you make will be saved in a folder on your SD card named clockworkmod/backup. I always think its a good idea to move your backups to your computer and keep your two or three most recent backups on your sdcard.
As for backing up your apps, you can do a batch backup in titanium and when you load a new rom you will be able restore the app and any data associated with it. As a general rule I would only backup apps that require a lot of setup. Otherwise when you load a new ROM the apps you had previously installed will automatically restore (depending on the ROM). Just a tip, dont backup system apps. Doing so and switching versions, for example froyo to gingerbread, could cause many issues down the road even if they aren't immediately seen.
Lastly, when installing a new ROM you always want to wipe data/factory reset at least twice and wipe cache and dalvik cache twice each as well. If you have any issues dont hesitate to ask there are many people who are willing to help.
Go to ROM Manager, scroll down and select Backup Current ROM.
I use two apps for backing up and restoring installed apps; Titanium Pro and MyBackup Pro. For some reason MBP successfully restores the apps + data that fail using TP. For example, apps installed from the Amazon android market.
I create full backups with both TP and MBP, but when I need to restore ( after a complete data wipe and new Rom flash) I do the following:
1) skip setting up my Google account during the initial setup process that starts after user data has been wiped.
2) Uncheck the box that allows backups to Google's servers
3) After setup is finished, go into settings, privacy and deselect the automated backup options
( If I don't do the previous two steps, then Google starts pushing apps that may have been backed up and/ or apps that I have purchased. I don't want this to happen since I am going to do my own restore with data.)
4) I use TP to restore MBP only
5) I then use MBP to restore the rest of my user apps and data.
Some may disagree with my two backup app process, but it has been more successful for me than using either TP or MBP by themselves.
If something doesn't go right with MBP, I still have the full TP backup to pull from.
I do not bother backing up systems apps just because it seems to cause me too many issues when i attempt the restore. This means i have to redo any system settings, but that isn't a big deal to me.
Some of my favorite apps have backup features of their own. Folder Organizer and Circle Launcher are two of my all time favorites. Both restore nicely when i move to a new Rom.
Occasionally, i copy the TP, MBP, and Clockwork folders from my sdcard to a folder on my laptop just in case.
The above may sound like alot, but it goes pretty quick for me and I flash quite a bit ( at least once or twice a week when the device is new and the Rom cookers are really active).
Another thought, I have used MBP to successfully restore my android home screen settings for sense ( part of MBP's data bu ). My preferred launcher is LauncherPro, which has its own backup and restore function.
Finally, i always do a nandroid backup before wiping and flashing to a new Rom. I also always do the backup right from clockwork mod recovery. I love the Rom Manager app and paid for the premium version quite a while ago, but i prefer to backup, wipe and flash from the recovery screen. Even if i download something that needs to be flashed using Rom Manager, I still reboot into recovery to perform the needed steps.
Hope this helps and if someone has another app backup/ restore routine they use successfully i would love to know the steps. I am open to learning something new.
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i tried to take a stock rom(KG5) and take everything out of it.
by everything i mean to take everything im not using(from the stock rom-which is the most[prefer a lot of 3rd party apps])
when i flashed it without all these things i automatically restored data from the CMW backup i did.
the result is wicked!! but...
here is my qustion:
what kind of apps the restore data actually restore. i know it restored the launcher im using(because i eraced the TW LAUNCHER from the CMW file)and my other apps but does it restore all of the samsung apps?samsung APK's?
i figure its not because going to SYSTEM\APPS shows no sing of the other APK but i might be wrong.
i wanted to share it with other people but i figured that if it restore other APK or SAMSUNG apps it's useless. does it?
thanks for the help.
I would think when you do a backup in CWM it will back up exactly what you have on the phone at the time.
If you flash a new rom then restore from CWM, all you are going to do is write over your new rom and replace whatever was on your phone at the time you made your backup.
you didnt understood.
i ment that i did advanced restore---restore data and not a whole restore option(or restore system option).
i did changed the rom,kernel and modem(it didnt restore it from the old backup) but im not sure about the actual system files
I am also interested in this so i dont make another thread on the subject.
So using CWM restore,what does restore data and restore system actually restore .
Thx for your time.
data restore restores your /data partition
It is all user apps that you have installed and most settings.
System restore restores all apps that is preinstalled on the phone/in the rom that you have backed up.
So if you flash another rom, and then only restore data in advaced restore you will only restore your own apps from market or manually installed.
So i will get my own apps back and the settings i had before .
Thx alot man.
Not all settings, but all your app settings.
Most system settings are stored under /system
Like wifi, apn and stuff like that.
Hi.
I want to find out wich is the BEST COMPLETE BACKUP of any android mobile phone program and if i can install it to an UNROOTED android phone.
I hear that clockwork is the best but i don't know if this program can work fine with UNROOTED phones because it suggest to install it only to rooted phone.
So please the persons who KNOW can answer to me with proof.
A LOF OF THANKS FOR ALL.
gotta have root for those backup programs.
Sync your contacts to Google and there you have a back up of them. Any paid apps from the market will always be allowed to be downloaded by you since you paid for them.
"I love my Springfield XD40"
So isn't there any program that it can do a complete backup of any android phone WITHOUT rooted or sing into google?
fits79 said:
So isn't there any program that it can do a complete backup of any android phone WITHOUT rooted or sing into google?
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Not that I'm aware of. What are information are you trying to back up?
"I love my Springfield XD40"
Everything so even the mobile doesn't open at all i can restore it and recovered at the position it was when i was make the backup.
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Everything so even the mobile doesn't open at all i can restore it and recovered at the position it was when i was make the backup.
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O...nope. your definitely going to have to root to have access to that.
"I love my Springfield XD40"
firstly you need root for any significant backup, withought it the best thing i would sujest is connecting your phone to a computer and just copy everything over, that will save most apps and things. But even with root i am not aware af any comprehensive backup app because there is so much to backup: ROM, Kernel, Contacts, Data, Apps as well as different locations where they are: OS storage, internal SD and external SD.
despite this i have found helpfull combinations of:
App Backup & Restore
Mobile Backup II
MyBackup Root
Titanium Backup
ROM Manager
some need root, some don't and some are partialy limited without root, but all were helpfull and have saved my rear a few times
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Everything so even the mobile doesn't open at all i can restore it and recovered at the position it was when i was make the backup.
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There is a way. Bring a storage device like a thumb drive and go into a sprint store or a radio Shack. They have machines (cellebrite) that can backup contacts pictures video and sd contents. Or you can do it yourself buy pushing everything to dropbox.
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thronnos said:
There is a way. Bring a storage device like a thumb drive and go into a sprint store or a radio Shack. They have machines (cellebrite) that can backup contacts pictures video and sd contents. Or you can do it yourself buy pushing everything to dropbox.
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Yeah, that's not "everything". If you want EVERYTHING backed up on your phone, you're going to need root. Normal "copy everything off of the SD card" doesn't get you things like app data or preferences/settings (like ringtone and notification tone settings, as two out of a thousand possible examples).
Now, if your device has fastboot enabled and you have an on-hand recovery image, you can likely
Code:
fastboot boot recovery-clockwork-touch-5.8.0.2-crespo4g.img
(make appropriate substitutions for your on-hand recovery image file and device), and then do a nandroid backup from there. Aside from the data written to your storage device (on-device or SD card), that shouldn't permanently modify your system in any way.
With the titanium backup that it work ONLY on a rooted mobile we can make A FULL COMPLETE BACKUP of any android mobile.
And when i am saying full complete backup i mean(Rom, kernel, apps, settings e.t.c.) ALL the things that it has the mobile this time.
And after a change of rom or kernel i can restore ONLY the apps and settings to the changed rom/kernel?
A LOT OF THANKS.
fits79 said:
With the titanium backup that it work ONLY on a rooted mobile we can make A FULL COMPLETE BACKUP of any android mobile.
And when i am saying full complete backup i mean(Rom, kernel, apps, settings e.t.c.) ALL the things that it has the mobile this time.
And after a change of rom or kernel i can restore ONLY the apps and settings to the changed rom/kernel?
A LOT OF THANKS.
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TB doesn't backup kernel and its settings, widgets placed on homescreen, and certain system apps when you reflash same Rom. Only one way is a android backup which is same as an image backup in windows.
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So there isn't any program that backups EVERYTHING so you can restore it by choice everything you want....
Clockwork doesn't do a COMPLETE FULL BACKUP of any mobile?
I search one program that can make a A COMPLETE FULL BACKUP of any android mobile device like samsung galaxy s2.
Clockwork backs up your entire system. Including apps installed to sd card, but it won't backup info on your sd card normal storage (the one you can use a usb mass storage).
clockwork nandroid backup+regular backup of sd card = full backup of everything on your phone.
Of course, successful restore of the backup without modifications will only work in phones with the same model (no restoring a gingerbread backup of an htc device to an ics samsung device for example)
So clockwork can make a FULL COMPLETE BACKUP of entire monbile into an external usb har disk corrrect?
Then you can restore ONLY the apps if you install a custom rom to the mobile or the restore must be a complete and not a part of it.
A 'nandroid' which is done with clockworkmod or twrp or amon-ra is a complete backup...
Titanium backup does an app by app backup...
Titanium backup will also let you open the backup and pick out apps to restore if you use clockworkmod or twrp
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fits79 said:
So clockwork can make a FULL COMPLETE BACKUP of entire monbile into an external usb har disk corrrect?
Then you can restore ONLY the apps if you install a custom rom to the mobile or the restore must be a complete and not a part of it.
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Yes but not to a USB hard disk. You can chose from internal or externa SD card.
After that you can move it line any other file.
Pretty comon on flashaholics. They try a ROM and a few minutes later flash his entire system(nandroid backup) back.
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What is the twrp.
And the complete system backup you do with clockwork can toy restore ONLY the apps from this backup to a custom rom or kernel that may you have installed at the mobile like samsung galaxy s2?
Where is the clockwork and titanium backup topics so i ask here to.
A LOT OF THANKS.
One more time .. recovery=clockworkmod and does a backup equivalent to an image file in windows. You can save backup to pc, flash other roms and restore your user apps+data from titanium backups and start using. If not happy, restore cwm backup and it'll be exactly how you had it before. Do a nandroid backup, transfer to pc and look inside using winrar, 7zip etc and you'll see what it saves.
When flashing different roms you may or may not restore data from apps via TB as certain data may affect stabily, each custom rom lets you know. For TB best to gooble search their site for guide, troubleshooting, q&a.
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So bottom line is that i can make a complete full backup with clockwork and then can make apps restore with titanium backup correct?
If i leave the oficial rom and change the kernel then i have any problems from the apps restorations?
Nandroid does the full image backup everything, system, boot, apps, data just like windows image restore
Titanium backup for apps + data is great when using same apps across different roms .. read up on its site
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I'm pretty new to this android stuff. I have rooted my phone and gotten titanium backup, but I also put CWM on it. I booted into CWM and had it backup my system. So what is the difference between titanium backup and CWM? I have heard people say that you should not back up system files with titanium, just apps and user data. Does CWM cover the system backup stuff? If titanium is able to backup user data and system files, why not just use that for everything? And how come titanium can run from the OS while CWM needs to be booted into?
Welcome to the world of rooting
So there is a fundamental difference between using CWM/TWRP to do a backup VS doing a backup from Titanium.
Doing a backup from CWM/TWRP backs up the system as a whole - think of it as a way to restore back whatever version you have - for instance I have a backup of my deoxed stock verizon image, i can boot to that anytime - i even have one with stock that I can revert to as well.
So this backup created by CWM/TWRP are an EXACT 1:1 image of what you have on your system.
Now the backup from Titanium is more for when you flash and need to put on your apps again you could use google play to restore everything OR use Titanium. Titanium is good for backing up the apps and their data - i don't use the system function.
So usage scenarios are:
1. I need to back to another image i had > use CWM/TWRP backup
2. I just flashed to a great new ROM <insert_name> and want to have the same apps i had when i had my previous rom, install titanium open it up and restore the apps you had backed up.
I hope this helps.
Cwm needs to be booted into and you use it to wipe data, cache, etc. Also make a nandroid makeup of your whole system which includes system files, apps, recovery images etc. Cwm isn't really good for restore specific apps. Its good for restoring the system as a whole. That's where titanium comes in. Can back up all apps, individual apps. Freeze and uninstall. Just a lot easier to work with
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vue said:
Welcome to the world of rooting
So there is a fundamental difference between using CWM/TWRP to do a backup VS doing a backup from Titanium.
Doing a backup from CWM/TWRP backs up the system as a whole - think of it as a way to restore back whatever version you have - for instance I have a backup of my deoxed stock verizon image, i can boot to that anytime - i even have one with stock that I can revert to as well.
So this backup created by CWM/TWRP are an EXACT 1:1 image of what you have on your system.
Now the backup from Titanium is more for when you flash and need to put on your apps again you could use google play to restore everything OR use Titanium. Titanium is good for backing up the apps and their data - i don't use the system function.
So usage scenarios are:
1. I need to back to another image i had > use CWM/TWRP backup
2. I just flashed to a great new ROM <insert_name> and want to have the same apps i had when i had my previous rom, install titanium open it up and restore the apps you had backed up.
I hope this helps.
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This.
You can also use titanium to do stuff like freeze applications or move them to your sd card.
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Agreed - you will want both, but really you will use Titanium on your day to day when flashing, the other is for some more safe failures - although really you will probably have few but Titanium is good for scheduled back ups etc..
Very usefull if you do nightlies as well.
OP here, thanks for the info guys. Coincidentally, after making this thread I went into Titanium to backup my user data since I hadn't done it before, and I am getting an error:
"Batch backup interrupted, insufficient free storage space"
I have 25GB on my ext card but within Titanium it shows "This folder is not writable." Something's up with the permissions. I thought I could plug the phone in via USB, then try to set the permissions on the folders. So I plug it in, but the ext card shows completely empty on the PC.
I have manually added files to the ext card through my PC in the past, so something fishy is going on. I am able to backup to the internal memory, so it looks like I need to figure out how to fix the permissions on the ext card. Within my root browser the permissions show write access for owner.
Edit: Titanium really doesn't want to save backups to the external card... But I can create them on internal memory and move them over I guess.
Hi,
is it possible to backup a rooted android phone without recovery?
Backup must cover system apps, settings and maybe even all partitions - as much as possible
Thanks
As far as i know all "backup apps" cover only user apps and maybe system app settings, but i havent found any which includes all system apps itself too! Is there something which covers that too? Or asked with different words, is there a app (with root privilege) which can back up entire system partition?
Yes, with this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.h3r3t1c.onnandbup&hl=en_GB Online Nandroid Backup you can make a CWM or TWRP backup of everything on your phone, this works and have used it myself to make a backup when there was no custom recovery for my phone.
THIS app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.h3r3t1c.bkrestore&hl=en_GB Nandroid Manager says it can restore the backup you have made, but have never used it so cant confirm.
The first app saved everything from a stock rom so I could get all the files I needed to port a new rom, and all my data and apps so I know that works fine.