Hi,
is it possible to backup a rooted android phone without recovery?
Backup must cover system apps, settings and maybe even all partitions - as much as possible
Thanks
As far as i know all "backup apps" cover only user apps and maybe system app settings, but i havent found any which includes all system apps itself too! Is there something which covers that too? Or asked with different words, is there a app (with root privilege) which can back up entire system partition?
Yes, with this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.h3r3t1c.onnandbup&hl=en_GB Online Nandroid Backup you can make a CWM or TWRP backup of everything on your phone, this works and have used it myself to make a backup when there was no custom recovery for my phone.
THIS app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.h3r3t1c.bkrestore&hl=en_GB Nandroid Manager says it can restore the backup you have made, but have never used it so cant confirm.
The first app saved everything from a stock rom so I could get all the files I needed to port a new rom, and all my data and apps so I know that works fine.
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Hello m8's
1) i am on Lite.romv1.4 now say i want to mig to a diff rom which does
a full wipe , so i'll take the back up(via cwm recovery)
-now that backup is stored on my int. storage , even if i move it to some
other place say my system , at the time of restore can we do it directly
from the system(point is does the backup file needs to be there in the
device storage(int or ext) at the time of restore - assuming device is
connected)
2)now when a diff rom is loaded (which has done full wipe) ,
-any other way can i get my prev data and app installed settings without
restore
-and if i do restore what exact will happen , mean ,will my prev app and data
settings get restored on top of new rom or something else?
3)How to get cwm recovery menu screen from PHONE Switched OFF state?
4)how can i delete samsung hub apps by editing system and framework files?
(assuming i have req explorer)
Thanks in advance
Cheers
EDIT:so it's not a noob query
anyone can throw some light
c'mmon guys am in dark here
Me no understand could you translate into easy to understand .
jje
Titanium Backup will do everything you asked for (I recomment the Pro version and you MUST be rooted).
It will backup and restore apps and data, and will also freeze or uninstall any app.
It's on the market for free, but I really do recommend paying the small amount for the full version.
johncmolyneux said:
Titanium Backup will do everything you asked for (I recomment the Pro version and you MUST be rooted).
It will backup and restore apps and data, and will also freeze or uninstall any app.
It's on the market for free, but I really do recommend paying the small amount for the full version.
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+1 Ti is one of the few apps I would recommend to anyone that wants to flash roms. You can backup all your apps and settings before a flash and then restore quickly and easily. The freeze function is very handy also. IMO you buy this one and never look back. A MUST HAVE.
A nand backup will be used to restore the phone as it already exists. It does not backup apps and settings specifically but you can pull apks and such out of one. Basically you do a nand before you start playing around and if you screw something up or just take an instant dislike to the new rom you flashed you can go into recovery and restore that nand and your phone will be just like you never did anything. It will not however back up your radio.
What I do is backup a few apps data separately and then go into Ti and backup all my apps and system data. I boot into recovery and I make a nand. Then I go over to usb storage and I move the entire contents of the sd over to my computer. This will have both the nand and the Ti backup on it. I delete the entire internal storage after I have taken a quick look to make sure that the backup on my pc is good. This gives me a completely fresh base to start a new rom from. Once I have the new rom flashed I move my ti backup over and restore. I then move the other data that the backup contains that I want back on the phone over and I'm up and running. I keep my music and other stuff that is just going to move from one flash to the next on my sd card as it isnt wiped in the process even if you do a hard reset and it can just stay there without the hassle of backing it up and restoring it. Do not delete your backup until you are sure that you have everything you may want back across to your phone. I usually keep it until the next rom when I start the process over with a new backup.
@JJEgan - which part
@johncmolyneux ,@krabman - thnx guys
so int. usb storage will also be wiped in the process, right?
also can u clarify
- How to get cwm recovery menu screen from PHONE Switched OFF state(like we see by using the function from cwm app -> reboot into CWM rec)
- how can i delete samsung hub apps by editing system and framework files(or if any other file for that matter)?
(assuming i have req explorer)
i tried to take a stock rom(KG5) and take everything out of it.
by everything i mean to take everything im not using(from the stock rom-which is the most[prefer a lot of 3rd party apps])
when i flashed it without all these things i automatically restored data from the CMW backup i did.
the result is wicked!! but...
here is my qustion:
what kind of apps the restore data actually restore. i know it restored the launcher im using(because i eraced the TW LAUNCHER from the CMW file)and my other apps but does it restore all of the samsung apps?samsung APK's?
i figure its not because going to SYSTEM\APPS shows no sing of the other APK but i might be wrong.
i wanted to share it with other people but i figured that if it restore other APK or SAMSUNG apps it's useless. does it?
thanks for the help.
I would think when you do a backup in CWM it will back up exactly what you have on the phone at the time.
If you flash a new rom then restore from CWM, all you are going to do is write over your new rom and replace whatever was on your phone at the time you made your backup.
you didnt understood.
i ment that i did advanced restore---restore data and not a whole restore option(or restore system option).
i did changed the rom,kernel and modem(it didnt restore it from the old backup) but im not sure about the actual system files
I am also interested in this so i dont make another thread on the subject.
So using CWM restore,what does restore data and restore system actually restore .
Thx for your time.
data restore restores your /data partition
It is all user apps that you have installed and most settings.
System restore restores all apps that is preinstalled on the phone/in the rom that you have backed up.
So if you flash another rom, and then only restore data in advaced restore you will only restore your own apps from market or manually installed.
So i will get my own apps back and the settings i had before .
Thx alot man.
Not all settings, but all your app settings.
Most system settings are stored under /system
Like wifi, apn and stuff like that.
Excuse my nooberance - but I want to test out some different firmwares, roms and kernels.
Once I've installed new firmware, kernels or roms I'd like to be able to easily and quickly restore all my apps and settings. What is the easiest way to do this?
I've CWM installed and have made a backup of my current state - but is it simpler to use something like Titanium Backup as from what I understand the backup I've made with CWM is like a complete image and if I restore that image it will overwirte any other rom, kernel or firmware - but maybe I've misunderstood (quite likely - as there's a lot to learn about Android coming from a long time iOS user).
Thanks in advance.
yes you can use TiBU to restore almost anything. However it is recommended to restore only "user apps and their data". You can backup messages and call logs using samsung account or use "MyBackUp" app for it.
TiBU however is most widely used.
There are guides and tutorials for using Titanium Backup but I'll give a little info to maybe clear things up for you.
A Nandroid backup will indeed backup EVERYTHING like a complete image, so yes if you installed a new ROM or Kernel, and restored the Nandroid backup, this would overwrite and you would be back at square one. Nandroid backups are useful if you are doing modifications to the system like new themes or changes to settings etc, in case it goes wrong you can restore.
Download Titanium Backup (I do recommend getting Pro version).
Backup your USER apps only. NOT THE SYSTEM APPS.
Choose any system apps you do require (maybe)
Then on the new ROM you can just restore all your user apps.. simple..
PM me if you need any more help and I will go into more detail
I'm pretty new to this android stuff. I have rooted my phone and gotten titanium backup, but I also put CWM on it. I booted into CWM and had it backup my system. So what is the difference between titanium backup and CWM? I have heard people say that you should not back up system files with titanium, just apps and user data. Does CWM cover the system backup stuff? If titanium is able to backup user data and system files, why not just use that for everything? And how come titanium can run from the OS while CWM needs to be booted into?
Welcome to the world of rooting
So there is a fundamental difference between using CWM/TWRP to do a backup VS doing a backup from Titanium.
Doing a backup from CWM/TWRP backs up the system as a whole - think of it as a way to restore back whatever version you have - for instance I have a backup of my deoxed stock verizon image, i can boot to that anytime - i even have one with stock that I can revert to as well.
So this backup created by CWM/TWRP are an EXACT 1:1 image of what you have on your system.
Now the backup from Titanium is more for when you flash and need to put on your apps again you could use google play to restore everything OR use Titanium. Titanium is good for backing up the apps and their data - i don't use the system function.
So usage scenarios are:
1. I need to back to another image i had > use CWM/TWRP backup
2. I just flashed to a great new ROM <insert_name> and want to have the same apps i had when i had my previous rom, install titanium open it up and restore the apps you had backed up.
I hope this helps.
Cwm needs to be booted into and you use it to wipe data, cache, etc. Also make a nandroid makeup of your whole system which includes system files, apps, recovery images etc. Cwm isn't really good for restore specific apps. Its good for restoring the system as a whole. That's where titanium comes in. Can back up all apps, individual apps. Freeze and uninstall. Just a lot easier to work with
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vue said:
Welcome to the world of rooting
So there is a fundamental difference between using CWM/TWRP to do a backup VS doing a backup from Titanium.
Doing a backup from CWM/TWRP backs up the system as a whole - think of it as a way to restore back whatever version you have - for instance I have a backup of my deoxed stock verizon image, i can boot to that anytime - i even have one with stock that I can revert to as well.
So this backup created by CWM/TWRP are an EXACT 1:1 image of what you have on your system.
Now the backup from Titanium is more for when you flash and need to put on your apps again you could use google play to restore everything OR use Titanium. Titanium is good for backing up the apps and their data - i don't use the system function.
So usage scenarios are:
1. I need to back to another image i had > use CWM/TWRP backup
2. I just flashed to a great new ROM <insert_name> and want to have the same apps i had when i had my previous rom, install titanium open it up and restore the apps you had backed up.
I hope this helps.
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This.
You can also use titanium to do stuff like freeze applications or move them to your sd card.
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Agreed - you will want both, but really you will use Titanium on your day to day when flashing, the other is for some more safe failures - although really you will probably have few but Titanium is good for scheduled back ups etc..
Very usefull if you do nightlies as well.
OP here, thanks for the info guys. Coincidentally, after making this thread I went into Titanium to backup my user data since I hadn't done it before, and I am getting an error:
"Batch backup interrupted, insufficient free storage space"
I have 25GB on my ext card but within Titanium it shows "This folder is not writable." Something's up with the permissions. I thought I could plug the phone in via USB, then try to set the permissions on the folders. So I plug it in, but the ext card shows completely empty on the PC.
I have manually added files to the ext card through my PC in the past, so something fishy is going on. I am able to backup to the internal memory, so it looks like I need to figure out how to fix the permissions on the ext card. Within my root browser the permissions show write access for owner.
Edit: Titanium really doesn't want to save backups to the external card... But I can create them on internal memory and move them over I guess.
I have been searching for an answer for this question for a couple of days now but have yet to find one, so I decided to go ahead and make a thread for it. What I am wondering, is how to create a backup of all my user data, apps, and app data that I can restore on different roms? I am currently stock rooted, however I have downloaded and wish to flash ARHD Rom, but I don't want to have to re install everything from scratch I just want to be able to click "restore" and have all my apps and data back.
Any Help is greatly appreciated. Thanks Guys.
Pure+ said:
I have been searching for an answer for this question for a couple of days now but have yet to find one, so I decided to go ahead and make a thread for it. What I am wondering, is how to create a backup of all my user data, apps, and app data that I can restore on different roms? I am currently stock rooted, however I have downloaded and wish to flash ARHD Rom, but I don't want to have to re install everything from scratch I just want to be able to click "restore" and have all my apps and data back.
Any Help is greatly appreciated. Thanks Guys.
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Because you are not rooted go this route. You do not require root.
1. Use the Helium app and copy the folder it creates onto your computer, it's called "CARBON." This will copy all apps and app data.
2. Use HTC Backup from the app store and backup everything onto dropbox. This will also backup your apps + data. It will be on a cloud storage so no need to push anything to anywhere.
3. Go into your SMS and hit the menu button. Backup all user text messaging. Copy to computer.
now you can report everything to anything.
After you are on your new ROM.
1. Run HTC Backup (comes with rom) and restore everything.
2. Use Helium to restore any missing apps.
3. Restore SMS.
Done.
SlimJ87D said:
Because you are not rooted go this route. You do not require root.
1. Use the Helium app and copy the folder it creates onto your computer, it's called "CARBON." This will copy all apps and app data.
2. Use HTC Backup from the app store and backup everything onto dropbox. This will also backup your apps + data. It will be on a cloud storage so no need to push anything to anywhere.
3. Go into your SMS and hit the menu button. Backup all user text messaging. Copy to computer.
now you can report everything to anything.
After you are on your new ROM.
1. Run HTC Backup (comes with rom) and restore everything.
2. Use Helium to restore any missing apps.
3. Restore SMS.
Done.
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I am rooted, what I'm really wondering now is if I can restore the data portion of my nandroid backup after flashing the new rom or if that will result in a bunch of FC's?
Pure+ said:
I am rooted, what I'm really wondering now is if I can restore the data portion of my nandroid backup after flashing the new rom or if that will result in a bunch of FC's?
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Use Titanium Backup and it can grab apps from a nandroid backup and restore them. navigate for this feature through the options menu.
http://www.guidingtech.com/13501/restore-apps-nandroid-titanium-backup/
Yes, you can flash a clean Rom then restore your data file from a previous backup. the only problem with that is that whatever problems you may have had before, may be present still. Otherwise, it doesn't hurt anything. In fact, both CWM and TWRP allow advanced restore where you can select portions of your back up to restore..one a time. In my opinion, it allows you to see, if a backup fails to restore, where exactly it is having trouble, be it in system, boot, data..etc. I literally just did this, restoring a data backup onto a clean Rom, and so far no issues. I understand what you mean by not wanting to set everything back up. System settings, widgets and app placements. You had the perfect setup and it took you forever to get it that way. Titanium backup and Rom Toolbox don't always restore these things like they claim to do.
Edit: I am finding the hard way with this phone, that unlike my old LG Mytouch, when you flash a firmware upgrade, non OTA push I mean, it doesn't stick to system. It's saved to data. So if you flash a data file from a backup with an older version, your back to that version. With my old phone, we could swap Roms after an update all day, and the baseband and firmware updates would stick every time.