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Well, it looks like it is definitely gonna be locked up on us, anybody gonna pass on it? http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/05/24/htc-evo-3d-confirmed-to-have-locked-bootloader/
Yeah, you bet. And you're not the only one. The more people sign the petition (and email the reps, complain on the facebook page, etc) the better. It takes seconds to sign, and they promise real action:
http://www.groubal.com/htc-bootloaders-and-nand/
Facebook update..
"There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience," Peter Chou, CEO of HTC
I have the epic 4g but as soon as I read this I postd the link too there facebookpage in the epic forum and askd ppl too sign the protest. Wow it worked great. I just might buy this device now. I like the 4.3 inch screen.
We did it BIATCHES. No more locked boot loaders! Our phones are Free!
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We did it BIATCHES. No more locked boot loaders! Our phones are Free!
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Lol
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Hi everyone,
If anyone has some free time head over to the HTC facebook page, It's going bonkers right now.
North American HQ - 425-679-5318 Lots of folks are calling in and posting everywhere we can, lets hope some grassroots activism helps turn this around.
Any bloggers here please spread the word.
Thx guys, Unity is our only option here.
Spread the word!! HTC will know hw the community feels
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Will do!
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Welcome to hell HTC Facebook page. We should also f#@& with there Wikipedia page while we are at it. I have already email bombed tech support.
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Express your feelings by contacting HTC.
[email protected] Senior Director Enterprise Business Unit Americas
[email protected] Chairman
[email protected] Chief Marketing Officer, HTC Corporation
[email protected] Senior Public Relations Manager at HTC 425-679-5328
[email protected] COO of HTC
[email protected] Board Member of HTC
[email protected] CEO
[email protected] VP HTC
[email protected] Chief Innovation Officer
Brent Groome, Chief Executive-Customer Operations, at 843-369-8393 or [email protected]
HTC Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/HTC
Twitter:
http://twitter.com/#!/htc
Petition:
http://www.groubal.com/htc-bootloaders-and-nand/
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Welcome to hell HTC Facebook page. We should also f#@& with there Wikipedia page while we are at it. I have already email bombed tech support.
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That's not the way to handle things like this. If you want to be immature and make an ass of yourself, by all means go ahead. Just don't go trying to rile up the community and making us all look like idiots.
I know what to do! ***** in another new thread!
From my Gingerbread Hero.
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I'm pretty sure HTC knows how we feel and doesn't give a ****.
What we need is for the WORLD to know how WE feel and then put a skeptical eye on HTC to see what they do...that's the only way HTC will do the right thing. They already knew how we would feel, they certainly know how we do feel...and I doubt they care.
But if we take this to the biggest stages we can find and get a wider audience to hear what is going on then HTC has to respond on to the wider audience....which they will care about. They have already demonstrated they don't care about our tiny little corner of the internet.
1.) I e-mailed Android Central to follow this. I expected they would already, but I guess they are scared to death of losing out on any industry freebies and hookups they may have. Others should follow suit and get them to follow this
2.) Everybody submit this to Slashdot.org as well. a Huge readership over there that would care about our plight. Don't just submit the 'why' we are upset but links to tweets, message boards and htc's facebook to show the how upset we are and how many of us there are.
3.) Any other media outlet that may care. Try to keep from getting too 'nerdy', don't get into crypto-signed bootloader talk....just say "encrypted the phone so we can't install whatever software we want"
4.) Bomb Google searches, make a trend. Same for twitter.
5.) Be tasteful and grownup. Don't hurl insults, don't just bomb someones email, don't DDOS. Just spread our plight to a larger audience and then HTC has to answer to EVERYONE (not just us) with their actions....as opposed to what they will answer just us with--inaction.
Off to Facebook.....
HTC "Quietly Screwing Us Over"
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HTC "Quietly Screwing Us Over"
Sent from the last HTC phone with freedom
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LMFAO on ur sig!!!!!! Good one!
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That's what i did I posted in over 120 forums and on every countries fb page millions will know by end of the week .
its why I did this the devs who kept them strong at the begginings.. they will realize this by sales going to.Samsung by hundreds if.not.thousands have started canceling pre orders I made sure I connected many different countries linking them to there phones being released educating them on locked signed bootloaders means no rom most didn't know at all....... pardon spelling driving lol ...
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That's what i did I posted in over 120 forums and on every countries fb page millions will know by end of the week .
its why I did this the devs who kept them strong at the begginings.. they will realize this by sales going to.Samsung by hundreds if.not.thousands have started canceling pre orders I made sure I connected many different countries linking them to there phones being released educating them on locked signed bootloaders means no rom most didn't know at all....... pardon spelling driving lol ...
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Don't drive and post on XDA. Than again if you die we can say you died defending the freedom of our phones. That will surely make the news.
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http://www.facebook.com/notes/htc/update-on-bootloaders/10150305151453084
HTC responded. Don't know if it means anything but we'll see.
Thanks so much for providing feedback, we hear your concerns. Your satisfaction is a top priority for us and we're working hard to ensure you have great experiences with our phones. We're reviewing the issue and our policy around bootloaders and will provide more information in the next few days. Thank you for your interest, support and willingness to share your feedback.
Here's what HTC has posted on their facebook page...
Update on Bootloaders
by HTC on Tuesday, May 24, 2011 at 4:50pm
Thanks so much for providing feedback, we hear your concerns. Your satisfaction is a top priority for us and we're working hard to ensure you have great experiences with our phones. We're reviewing the issue and our policy around bootloaders and will provide more information in the next few days. Thank you for your interest, support and willingness to share your feedback.
I'm sorry for the double post. I didn't see that smw6180 had already posted
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http://www.facebook.com/notes/htc/update-on-bootloaders/10150305151453084
HTC responded. Don't know if it means anything but we'll see.
Thanks so much for providing feedback, we hear your concerns. Your satisfaction is a top priority for us and we're working hard to ensure you have great experiences with our phones. We're reviewing the issue and our policy around bootloaders and will provide more information in the next few days. Thank you for your interest, support and willingness to share your feedback.
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I would say they are just trying to shut us up. There is no way they would give in this easy
Agreed.
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I would say they are just trying to shut us up. There is no way they would give in this easy
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At least our concerns have been heard. Look at Motorola, they started coming around so hopefully this leads somewhere.
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http://www.facebook.com/notes/htc/update-on-bootloaders/10150305151453084
HTC responded. Don't know if it means anything but we'll see.
Thanks so much for providing feedback, we hear your concerns. Your satisfaction is a top priority for us and we're working hard to ensure you have great experiences with our phones. We're reviewing the issue and our policy around bootloaders and will provide more information in the next few days. Thank you for your interest, support and willingness to share your feedback.
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Took them almost 8 hours to cook up this crap and try to serve it to us? I'm losing respect for HTC by the second!
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This thread is only to get answers from HTC, and the only wait to get answers is by contacting them, like the time that everybody contact them for the bootloader.
Here is the site and what i wrote...
http://www.htc.com/us/support/e-mail
Hi..
I got The HTC EVO 3D in June 22, as part of Sprint Premier Custumer I'm. But the are some things that are missing and i want to know what happened here.
For example, Flashlight APP, Battery Widget, Panaromic Camera, and the Transparent Rosie that everybody saw on CTIA Event. That is very disappointing.
I will attach a Photo of the Transparent Rosie that was anounced in the CTIA Wireless event, compared with the EVO 4G.
http://htc-phones.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/HTC-EVO-3D-And-EVO-4G-Android-Phones.jpg
Also i want to know about unlocket bootleader, when will that be coming?
I hope that my questions are answered, becuase i'm very disappointed at this thing and im planning of returning the phone.
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Also:
www.facebook.com/htc
www.twitter.com/htc
PD. Reality is I'm not really planing on returning my phone for those issues LOL, but i really whant to know what **** will they tell.
Man, some people are impatient.
Also, when contacting a company about something to do with business, a run through the spell checker wouldn't be a bad idea. Just saying.
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3vo. That is all that needs be said.
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Man, some people are impatient.
Also, when contacting a company about something to do with business, a run through the spell checker wouldn't be a bad idea. Just saying.
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3vo. That is all that needs be said.
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I have to keep a low profile, LOL
see, maybe im one of the few people who wont die at the fact that the phone is s-on, when it happens (if it does) then it will. I respect HTC for the high quality products that they release. especially with this pretty much bad ass phone.
HTC the first in just about everything.
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see, maybe im one of the few people who wont die at the fact that the phone is s-on, when it happens (if it does) then it will. I respect HTC for the high quality products that they release. especially with this pretty much bad ass phone.
HTC the first in just about everything.
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The problem now is that they have promised that it would happen. One wrong step and they will be branded as liars by their most devoted customers. It's one thing to not say anything, but once you promise to do something, then I suppose they should follow through.
@rockypr:
hope I didn't blow your cover!
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3vo. That is all that needs be said.
Lol @ bootleader, I think I'll use that from now on.
waiting
All I'm waiting on is root capability and then I will change from 4G to 3D.
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The problem now is that they have promised that it would happen. One wrong step and they will be branded as liars by their most devoted customers. It's one thing to not say anything, but once you promise to do something, then I suppose they should follow through.
@rockypr:
hope I didn't blow your cover!
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oh i know all about how they made that statement, I was just referring to a general state of how im just trying to be the good patient kid before christmas to open my presents
This was treir answer...
Dear Rockypr9,
I understand the importance of having your device perform to the fullest of its ability. The applications you describe were removed from the production model of the Sprint EVO 3D at Sprint's request so that it would function as intended. I do paologize for any inconvenience.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number 11USCW26ENA******.
Sincerely,
Jeffery
HTC
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Click "like" or comment on following post on HTC Flyer USA facebook page. Best way to send a message to HTC
https://www.facebook.com/htcusa/posts/212867458781538
Worth a try. I will post something
My crystal ball says: Within the next three weeks we will get HC.
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My crystal ball says: Within the next three weeks we will get HC.
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Hope you are right
like or comment the following links also:
HTC official page: http://www.facebook.com/HTC/posts/10150495979693084
HTC Flyer official page: http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=262036503831697&id=182447658457249
I hate to say but after looking at the face book page, it seems to me that its just a marketing outlet for HTC. I don't see them ever answering any support questions there, have you?
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I posted this.
It appears to me that HTC may be exiting the tablet market. They have never delivered on the promised Android update from Gingerbread to Honeycomb for the Flyer / View and the Jetstream is not competitively priced. Additionally no announcements or marketing in place for the holiday sales pitch coming up would appear to leave HTC in a bad position.
HTC are you competing and supporting your customers or dumping us????
DigitalMD said:
I hate to say but after looking at the face book page, it seems to me that its just a marketing outlet for HTC. I don't see them ever answering any support questions there, have you?
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Maybe, but a good place to put your message don't you think? I am not looking for support, I want their sales team know that they are not selling hardware, tablet is a complete package. I also want future customers know the facts. Hurting sales is the only way to teach a lesson.
Yes I guess you are right. Just have a bad feeling about this. Reminds me of my HTC Hero.
Here is the HTC US customer support email page. Use this to email to HTC support
http://www.htc.com/www/contact/email-us/
THIS IS BULL **** MAN.....i can't even express how unfair this is. HTC originally said it would be included with HC and then MONTHHHSSS later they still don't offer it to us? They promised it to us, but something tells me they forgot about us and just said screw it.
I only buy HTC products, but this customer support is unfair. This product has been out for months now and still nothing, not even a reminder saying "were working on it". They keep giving us old OS, right when (IF) we ever finally do get HC, Icecream will already be out on tablets once again giving us an OLD OS.
Would someone please explain the point of this? ICS was announced last week and is obviously superior to HC. Why are you complaining about not getting HC now? I can understand if you're complaining because you don't expect any updates, but ICS is obviously the upgrade path Google wants everything with Gingerbread to go with. By the look of things, it appears that HTC was working on HC then stopped when they got word that ICS was coming very soon.
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Here is the HTC US customer support email page. Use this to email to HTC support
http://www.htc.com/www/contact/email-us/
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I sent them an email and this is what I got
You were wondering about a software upgrade for your HTC EVO View 4G. I would be more than happy to assist you with this software inquiry. Unfortunately, I do not have any information about the release of the Honeycomb upgrade for your Android tablet. I would recommend you keep an eye on the HTC regional website at www.htc.com/US under the Home tab for further developments.
Sent from my Evo View 4g
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Would someone please explain the point of this? ICS was announced last week and is obviously superior to HC. Why are you complaining about not getting HC now? I can understand if you're complaining because you don't expect any updates, but ICS is obviously the upgrade path Google wants everything with Gingerbread to go with. By the look of things, it appears that HTC was working on HC then stopped when they got word that ICS was coming very soon.
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I'm sorry to be blunt , but you really need to read the threads here more and understand how the Android update process works. Google does not release or control updates for any device, none, zero, nada. Maybe in the future since they now own Motorola, they will control Motorola releases, but currently no, so ICS updates are not coming soon to a device near you. When Google announces any given version of Android it runs on exactly nothing at that point and a lot of work remains with each hardware vendor to make it work on each devices.
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I sent them an email and this is what I got
You were wondering about a software upgrade for your HTC EVO View 4G. I would be more than happy to assist you with this software inquiry. Unfortunately, I do not have any information about the release of the Honeycomb upgrade for your Android tablet. I would recommend you keep an eye on the HTC regional website at www.htc.com/US under the Home tab for further developments.
Sent from my Evo View 4g
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Here’s my first email to them
"Being the owner of several HTC Phones and enjoying their build quality, I recently purchased a HTC Flyer, thinking it would (as promised) get updated to Honeycomb.
Now, some web sites are reporting the flyer will not be updated.
I am now approaching my 30 day return window, so my question is, do I need to return my Flyer and buy something like the Samsung?
I really like HTC products but, I do want a device that (as promised) will get updated.
Gary"
I got the same reply as you. I then sent them this
"Thank you for your quick reply. As you know the official announcement was on Feb 11, 8 months ago saying the update to Honeycomb would be coming soon. The Flyer is approuching 1 year old and still no update. It seems like I may have to return my flyer and try another product. Thanks, Gary"
I got this back
"Gary, We very much appreciate your loyalty to HTC and understand how it can be frustrating awaiting announced updates, especially when they take longer than anticipated to come out. We ask for your patience as the update is being developed and tested for your device. Thank you again!"
Deerhunter48 said:
My crystal ball says: Within the next three weeks we will get HC.
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IS there some relevance in your 3 week suggestion?.
I mean is there some announcement from HTC due in that timeframe (fiscal results), a trade-show, or is it really just a gut-feeling/guess?
Thanks
Iain
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"Gary, We very much appreciate your loyalty to HTC and understand how it can be frustrating awaiting announced updates, especially when they take longer than anticipated to come out. We ask for your patience as the update is being developed and tested for your device. Thank you again!"
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Sounds good. I hope it's true and not just another ready-made reply.
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Sounds good. I hope it's true and not just another ready-made reply.
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If it is false info they’re going to buy mine back … they just don’t know that yet
ICS is long way off. I don't expect HTC to release ICS update. Most likely the combination of cyanogenmod + some talented developer will give us ICS.
People fail to realize that Android and iOS are completely different animals.
iOS is made for very small set of hardware (for e.g. iOS supports iPHone 3G, 3GS, 4,4S, iPad and iPad2 hardware only) and hence it is a complete product. Hardware/Software/Apps and middleware (drivers etc) work together to deliver a consistent experience - Apple ensures that.
In Android world - google creates one version of OS with basic set of apps and middleware (drivers etc). It relies on companies to to create software and drivers compatible with the OS and developers to create apps compatible with OS - not an easy task with multiple vendors/hardware combinations.
In a sense Google has been shooting itself in foot with so many versions Froyo, GB, HC and ICS within last 2 years. I will not be surprised if companies stop supporting Google because they are tired of providing all this support. Supporting an OS update takes months of hard work. Add carrier specific releases to that and you begin to understand what a big mess all this is.
ICS is a first step by Google in right direction. Now we will have a single Android OS for phones & tablets with patch releases in future. This will bring stability to Android platform and to its vendors. In my opinion there should never have been HC and GB out at all. It should just have been HC that supported both phones and tablets.
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If it is false info they’re going to buy mine back … they just don’t know that yet
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Haha, excellent answer!
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Click "like" or comment on following post on HTC Flyer USA facebook page. Best way to send a message to HTC
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Yeah. I have added my $0.02.
I hope there will be an update release because honeycomb 3.1 is not optimized 100% for this hardware and device. So HTC please update Jetstream to 3.2 or ICS. 3.2fully support qualcomm dualcore processors and memory controllers. 3.1 is kill this device and hardware.
Thanks
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Some news or updates from Htc? Or at&t?
S-off news or os upgrade?
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feherhollo said:
Some news or updates from Htc? Or at&t?
S-off news or os upgrade?
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Got a reply from AT&T regarding updates. They asked exactly what I was looking for. Have replied but no reply back as of yet. Hoping that something happens. Off till Sunday. Won't be checking in till Sunday or Monday. So hope they reply in that time. Also, no one seems to have done anything about the pictures globatron asked for. Or does anyone know how to cont ct him to know if the pictures I put up are what he wanted or not-if not, then to direct us as to what he wants?
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Please let me know when you get back some info from at&t
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Some news or updates from Htc? Or at&t?
S-off news or os upgrade?
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I received this from HTC a 2 days ago. Same old song and dance....
Dear Chris,
Thank you for your feedback it is very important to us. I understand your frustration in regards to wanting android 4.0 on your device. I wish I could provide you with more info but we simply do not have it. We were given a list of what devices that would be getting the update. The Jetstream was not on that list. This does not mean it will not get it, we just don't have any information on it at this time. If you follow us on Facebook or Twitter, HTC will post information there as far as updates and release dates. If you have any more questions or feedback feel free to reply to this email, thank you and have a great day.
Let me know if I have successfully answered your question, please click here to complete this.
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A real shame!
I can honestly say that I admire the devotion you guys have for your Jetstream. Sometimes you just have to face reality though, HTC has abandoned this tablet. The HTC Flyer which is a cheaper, older, less powerful tablet gets an official announcement of ICS upgrade before a more expensive and more powerful tablet, that's saying something. If you guys got to the dev section and read pages 15-17 of the [ROM]<==Galaxy Task v3==>(3-17) AT&T Jetstream topic is should give you an idea where on HTC radar this tablet is. This is not a Flagship device for HTC because it has done so poorly in sales, even task650 who is a recognized developer who has made the HTC Jetstream the best it can be agrees with all of this. I remain somewhat hopeful that HTC will release ICS for this tablet but I don't expect it to be anywhere close to Q3 2012 or even Q4 2012 which is a shame because hardware wise this tablet is a beast. HTC rushed this tablet to compete with Apple/Samsung and left the software full of bugs and not optimized for the hardware.
If you guys hear back from AT&T or HTC please post results. Maybe the right amount of nagging will push HTC to be loyal to their customers.
**Fingers Crossed**
Dear Jordan,
Thank you for contacting HTC, Jordan.
I can understand how important it is to have the latest updates for both your phone and your tablet alike. There has been much speculation over the availability to update tablets to Ice Cream Sandwich. Word on the street is that ICS will be a phone based update and that tablets around the globe will get their own strain of software. Can this be confirmed? Absolutely not. Is this just talk around the water cooler? Absolutely.
The chances of seeing your tablet being updated to ICS are probably better than seeing this rogue update appear in the limelight. Seeing as we here in technical support are not privy to such information I cannot confirm nor deny anything. And as you have stated we certainly don't decide the who's and what's in the world of software updates. What I will be happy to do is forward your request/comment to our developers. We take all suggestions seriously and use this information when researching possible improvements or updates for our devices.
I would recommend staying up to date on all things ICS by following us on Twitter and Facebook as these sites are updated daily with the latest news.
I thank you for taking the time to forward your comments to us. It is always helpful to have customer input, positive or negative. If you need anything else Jordan do not hesitate to contact me again by email.
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Bianca
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The reply I got...
feherhollo said:
Please let me know when you get back some info from at&t
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Back from exam, but no news yet.
I think I will be selling mine. Beautiful and powerful device but is in a dead stick to be forgotten and us user who payed for it and still paying to att for data plan are stuck with it with out any updates. It sucks.
juannicolas said:
I think I will be selling mine. Beautiful and powerful device but is in a dead stick to be forgotten and us user who payed for it and still paying to att for data plan are stuck with it with out any updates. It sucks.
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Sad to hear that.
I was thinking of asking all users here to bombard HTC and AT&T with a request asking for some release details about future details of upgrade/possibility of ICS. If probably many of us were to email them/contact them, may be just may be it may reach higher up in the organisation and help us see ICS soon.
Anyone up for this plan?
Perhaps we could fix a particular date when the message has spread to send the emails, then volume load on HTC and AT&T would definately be higher.
kailashpchhabria said:
Sad to hear that.
I was thinking of asking all users here to bombard HTC and AT&T with a request asking for some release details about future details of upgrade/possibility of ICS. If probably many of us were to email them/contact them, may be just may be it may reach higher up in the organisation and help us see ICS soon.
Anyone up for this plan?
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Well I can contribute on that. Let me know the right email address and I will drop my cute and right to the point question
juannicolas said:
Well I can contribute on that. Let me know the right email address and I will drop my cute and right to the point question
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How about a date of 15th May? Let the word spread and lets get the right email addresses and try it out. But we will need almost the entire community to pool in for some effect and some response from them.
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How about a date of 15th May? Let the word spread and lets get the right email addresses and try it out. But we will need almost the entire community to pool in for some effect and some response from them.
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Sounds good to me.
kailashpchhabria said:
How about a date of 15th May? Let the word spread and lets get the right email addresses and try it out. But we will need almost the entire community to pool in for some effect and some response from them.
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+1
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