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Ever since that data outage from 3 weeks ago, me and my wife's thunderbolts have had issues holding 3g/4g connections. The phones willswitch all the way from 4g to no data connection at all during various points in the day. I've tried the mr1 through mr2.5 radios and the issues haven't gone away. Talked to Verizon tech support multiple times and they said they've opened up a trouble ticket to see if its the network or our phones. We stay around Aurora and naperville which are full 4g areas but have had problems in multiple towns. So just wondering if anyone in the Chicago land area or the country for that matter is experiencing the same thing since that outage from a few weeks back.
For reference, I'm running cm7 with mr2 and mr2.5 on my wife's phone. But like I said I've tried different radios already.
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You both are running CM7? Does this happen if you are stock?
Is Aurora / Naperville full 4g? I know going north towards Kenosha I lose 4g around Waukegan
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connection perfectly stable in north side of chicago. i would simply return the phone to stock and exchange it. maybe a bad sim card. do you have problems sticking only to 3g? or does that work pefectly?
Its been acting up since before I installed cm on our phones. They haven't been the same since the data outage. We've had cm for about a week or so and before that we were running mr1 and mr2 with basic root.
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If the phone is fine no need to exchange it just get a new sim. I got thunderbolts for my gf and her brother yesterday and their 4g seemed perfectly stable as I was rooting them the only thing I noticed was it did take a little for 4g to kick in after toggling via lte onoff
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connection perfectly stable in north side of chicago. i would simply return the phone to stock and exchange it. maybe a bad sim card. do you have problems sticking only to 3g? or does that work pefectly?
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3g runs fine. And all of naperville and Aurora are 4g. North Aurora is not as far as I know. And I thought about the sim being bad but I don't think that's very likely for 2 phonesphones
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Hey rygel411, does this sound like your situation?
1) Boot phone up fresh full reboot
2) Phone grabs a 3g/4g signal instantly and holds it for several hours fine
3) Randomly when you power on the display, you are missing a 3g/4g icon but have full bars
4) Checking under Wireless Network settings, Mobile Networks is OFF and WON'T turn on
5) Reboot solves the problem or Wait approx 2-4 hours and it solves itself randomly without doing anything
Does this sound like your situation? No 3g/4g icons and no data connection, and unable to turn data back on without a reboot or waiting a long time? Cuz if so this is exactly what happens to me and I live in central NJ. I always get perfect 3G signal on all my phones, even in my house. And my data speeds are generally good; 1500-3000kbps on 3G.
I am running MR2 Das BAMF Gingerstripped with Imoseyon's 3.4.0 GB Kernel. It IS related to Gingerbread, as my girlfriends Thunderbolt running full stock does not see this issue at all.
Similar but not exactly, both phones were acting up before I had gingerbread on them
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I am in the western suburbs (Oak Park, River Forest) and I don't have any issues at all along the I-88 corridor out to Route 59. That's about as far into Naperville as I drive. 4G the whole way, no dropped calls.
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Hey rygel411, does this sound like your situation?
1) Boot phone up fresh full reboot
2) Phone grabs a 3g/4g signal instantly and holds it for several hours fine
3) Randomly when you power on the display, you are missing a 3g/4g icon but have full bars
4) Checking under Wireless Network settings, Mobile Networks is OFF and WON'T turn on
5) Reboot solves the problem or Wait approx 2-4 hours and it solves itself randomly without doing anything
Does this sound like your situation? No 3g/4g icons and no data connection, and unable to turn data back on without a reboot or waiting a long time? Cuz if so this is exactly what happens to me and I live in central NJ. I always get perfect 3G signal on all my phones, even in my house. And my data speeds are generally good; 1500-3000kbps on 3G.
I am running MR2 Das BAMF Gingerstripped with Imoseyon's 3.4.0 GB Kernel. It IS related to Gingerbread, as my girlfriends Thunderbolt running full stock does not see this issue at all.
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I'm in Chicago and I do have this same problem from time to time. Over the last couple days it has been better but still happens
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I'm in Chicago and I do have this same problem from time to time. Over the last couple days it has been better but still happens
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Just wondering but are you on MR2? Because if anything its either that or the ROM, and I am more or less thinking its the radio. Could be why we didn't see this radio OTA yet.
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Just wondering but are you on MR2? Because if anything its either that or the ROM, and I am more or less thinking its the radio. Could be why we didn't see this radio OTA yet.
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I'm on 2.5, not sure of it's radio related or their network because I had Zero problems before with this configuration.
I was on 2.5. Then I downloaded the cm7 update that dropped a couple of hours ago and I was getting horrendous speeds with it, barely 1mbps. So I downgraded to mr2 and now I'm back between 7 and 13. I'm thinking about downgrading to the froyo radio and installing the cm7 compatible version with it.
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I was in Chicago this past weekend and noticed that my data was spacing out a lot. My GF on an un-rooted Tbolt was fine the whole weekend as best as I could tell.
I am on Sense 3.0 MR 2.5 Radio.
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I was in Chicago this past weekend and noticed that my data was spacing out a lot. My GF on an un-rooted Tbolt was fine the whole weekend as best as I could tell.
I am on Sense 3.0 MR 2.5 Radio.
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This is exactly my finding, just in New Jersey instead of Chicago. I would like to see explicit details on what exactly happens when you folks lose your data connection, and what happens when you try to toggle certain settings (ie - plane mode, mobile network, etc)
Especially one particular detail. When you lose your data connection, is there a 1x icon in the notification bar, or are there NO icons next to your signal. That will determine if we're having a connection problem to Verizon, or if our ROM's/Radio's are the culprit.
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This is exactly my finding, just in New Jersey instead of Chicago. I would like to see explicit details on what exactly happens when you folks lose your data connection, and what happens when you try to toggle certain settings (ie - plane mode, mobile network, etc)
Especially one particular detail. When you lose your data connection, is there a 1x icon in the notification bar, or are there NO icons next to your signal. That will determine if we're having a connection problem to Verizon, or if our ROM's/Radio's are the culprit.
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I have the same exact problem as the OP. I live in Wheaton, work in Carol Stream and go to Chicago every weekend because my girlfriend lives there. 4G and 3G CONSTANTLY go in and out when trying to use them. The 4G icon diappears and then reappears. It doesn't switch over to 3G or 1X. The icon just disappears, displays full bars for a second in grey, 4G icon comes back in grey with 1-2 bars in grey and then goes green after 10-20 seconds or so. It's so ****ing annoying.
I'm running the latest CM7 build with 0223r radio. I've tried MR2 and MR 2.5 and have no luck. It's driving me nuts. It's not CM7 either. I was running rooted stock and it was doing the same thing.
I was getting symptoms like it was shutting on and off. Mine works fine with no changes in the Tampa area.
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I have the same exact problem as the OP. I live in Wheaton, work in Carol Stream and go to Chicago every weekend because my girlfriend lives there. 4G and 3G CONSTANTLY go in and out when trying to use them. The 4G icon diappears and then reappears. It doesn't switch over to 3G or 1X. The icon just disappears, displays full bars for a second in grey, 4G icon comes back in grey with 1-2 bars in grey and then goes green after 10-20 seconds or so. It's so ****ing annoying.
I'm running the latest CM7 build with 0223r radio. I've tried MR2 and MR 2.5 and have no luck. It's driving me nuts. It's not CM7 either. I was running rooted stock and it was doing the same thing.
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i only see this problem while tethering. if i try too many connections (open windows at same time) the 4g disappears for a second or two then it comes back. other than that (chicago north side) my 4g has been flawless. never switched to 3g either.
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Hi,
Did anyone ever figure out connection issues with HTC Thunderbolt? I have the exact issue that DaRkL3AD3R discussed in July.
My Thunderbolt just started doing almost the identical thing as he posted. Can't get on internet unless I wait, boot, whatever - almost identical to what you stated. Connection seems to be connected but it is not. I am new to "messing" around with my phone but this cuased me to root and boot but still on the Gingerbread os. It is driving me batty! It started about Mar 25 or so and I thought booting would help. Do you know if it may be the radio and are there other versions I can try? Someone mentioned new PRI version? Thanks for any pointing in the right direction!
I recently upgraded from the Incredible to the Rezound and find that when 4G not available, the signal drops down to 1X. Not only that, it seems to stay in 1X even when 4G is available. How can I get the phone to drop to 3G when 4G not available? The Incredible ran in 3G in the same areas that the Rezound drops to 1X. What do I have to set to get it into 3G?
Thanks for help.
both my GF and I have been having trouble with this on both our phones... We both live and work in 4G coverage, pretty strong coverage too. Yet we both see 4g drop out to 3g or 1x. Its very random, and I've had it happen right in the middle of browsing the web. (All of a sudden a page takes forever to load or doesnt and the phone acts like it has no data connection, I go to the home screen and see that I am all of a sudden on 1x..)
I recently read an article that talked about how VZW actually has a pretty major issue they need to resolve pertaining to authentication on the LTE network. I don't know the exact mechanics of it, but basically the authentication fails and you get booted off the LTE network until the phone tries to hop on it again. Right now, the two phones I have personal experiance with do not try very often to get back on and it often takes going into the wireless settings page and selecting mobile networks and going in and out of that screen a couple times, or if it is being stubborn, airplane mode, site for a minute, and then back on. Occasionally I have to reboot the phone.
It really irritated me good last night when I really needed the data connection for GPS navigation because I took a wrong turn in an unfamiliar area..
Sometimes going in and out of airplane mode helps or restart.
I'm not going to say look on the forums. Here is a quote from another thread and linked another thread.
had the same issue and fixed by this.
racingtiger03 said:
Dial ##778#, call
edit mode
password is 000000
modem settings
Rev. A
select "enable"
menu > commit
phone will reboot and you should get 3G back
This changes your network from eHRPD back to EVDO Rev.A. For LTE phone owners, eHRPD causes 3G to die (most of the time anyway) when the LTE network has problems. Get back on normal EVDO and you're good to go.
^ from Jntdroid on another forum (not sure if we're allowed to post to other forums here) I'm not positive on where he got it from, but this is a capability of all HTC 4G phones
I've had occasional issues with being down to 1X, but even that was only during nationwide 4G network issues, definitely get in touch with VZW about that... not that they have enough sense to fix anything *sigh*
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Good luck. It's what fixed mine.
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I have the same problem sometimes. Well most of the time actually. =(
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I have the same issue periodically ..tho I live in a non lte area..so your suggested solution prob wouldnt be a good idea ey
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Same issue here. Only happens when I go from a 4G area to a 3G area. I end up getting stuck in 1x. The phone switches fine from 3G to 4G. But when going back to a 3G only area, it by-passes 3G and I get 1x.
No toggling helps. I have to reboot to get 3G back. I also tried that fix posted above. It does not help. Called verizon again tonight.
The strange part is before we had that 4G outage a few months ago, the phone would switch just fine. Now it's a pain in the ass.
Sorry it isn't helping. It worked in mine and done exactly the way it told me. Go from 3-4g now without an issue. No 1x like before
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Is anyone else constantly losing 3g? I can be in an area 1000 feet from a tower and I still drop to 1x. It happens all over the place. Resetting data through ##3282# does not resolve the issue. The only thing that helps is going in and out of airplane mode
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They are working on the towers
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That seems like such a blanket answer to any signal issues. If it were just towers in the process of being upgraded, why would cycling airplane mode on and off fix it? Why would my girlfriend's iPhone still have 3g? I just wanted to see if this signal issue was at least not unheard of.
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That seems like such a blanket answer to any signal issues. If it were just towers in the process of being upgraded, why would cycling airplane mode on and off fix it? Why would my girlfriend's iPhone still have 3g? I just wanted to see if this signal issue was at least not unheard of.
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When you put phone in airplane mod, it disconnects from tower, then reconnects when you turn your mobile data on. Your girlfriend iphone doesn't have the mod to show 1x. Plus the last radios update was buggy. Hopefully sprint will rectify it soon.
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Just to possibly clarify on what the OP stated, I think I'm having the same issue. It would be nice to know that this is just a tower thing for right now, not a problem with this highly anticipated amazing phone...which isnt so amazing right now.
BTW, I live in Largo, Florida, and I've noticed these 3g drop-outs all over the Tampa Bay area. The frequency of these dropouts is very strange though. Heres my issue with it, maybe this is also what the op is experiencing..
The phone is on, 3g works fine, texts go through, internet works, etc. All of a sudden for no reason, the 3g icon disappears. I still have 2-3 bars, but text messages and internet, etc., does not work. After weeks of this, I put the mobile data toggle on my homescreen as a widget, sometimes i can click that off and back on, and 3g comes back, sometimes it doesnt. Lately, its been more on the "doesnt" side. So then I'll be texting with someone, 6-10 text messages in, I get a "failed to send" or "could not send" message. I'll still have the 3g icon, but i notice the "data arrows" directly underneath it do not fluctuate. I understand its only a graphic, and may not be a true indicator of upload and download. anyways the only way to get messages sending again is to reboot the phone. And now lately, that too has been "sometimes working". This will even happen if i switch to wi-fi, the messages still wont go through.
Its very frusterating, seeing as how other sprint users I know are not experiencing this. (they dont have an Evo LTE)
Has anyone else experienced decreased data speeds when switching back and forth between 3G and 4G? Occasionally I'll travel through areas that don't have 4G coverage, and when my phone switches back to 4G from 3G my data speeds will plumit or the phone won't switch back to 4G unless I turn off data then turn it back on again.
Yesterday evening my phone's data speeds were crawling. I took the usual steps of turning off data, turning on airplane mode, restarting the phone, and pulling the battery. It wasn't until I pulled the sim card that my data speeds were back to normal. (Check the speed test results.) Is this in any way normal or is this a bug of some type?
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Has anyone else experienced decreased data speeds when switching back and forth between 3G and 4G? Occasionally I'll travel through areas that don't have 4G coverage, and when my phone switches back to 4G from 3G my data speeds will plumit or the phone won't switch back to 4G unless I turn off data then turn it back on again.
Yesterday evening my phone's data speeds were crawling. I took the usual steps of turning off data, turning on airplane mode, restarting the phone, and pulling the battery. It wasn't until I pulled the sim card that my data speeds were back to normal. (Check the speed test results.) Is this in any way normal or is this a bug of some type?
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I have not seen this specifically. I have noticed that sometimes the 4G speed seems slow, but have only seen it at work where service is generally spotty anyway. For me, when the 4G is super slow, it usually drops to 3G or even 1X (sometimes zero signal). I've been using the "LTE OnOFF - HTC Thunderbolt" utility by Cunning Logic with good success. Whenever my phone drops into 3G and doesn't come back (or no signal), I can force it back to 4G with the utility. I cannot say for sure, but the tool appears to turn off the radio, set the desired mode, then turn the radio back on. This usually resolves my issue, unless I am truly in a dead zone.
Just going into airplane mode will bring it back to 4G unless your on elm st. or something. I notice if you downloading our using data pretty heavily and it drops to 3G it won't always come back on It's own.
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Never had this issue.
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I have not seen this specifically. I have noticed that sometimes the 4G speed seems slow, but have only seen it at work where service is generally spotty anyway. For me, when the 4G is super slow, it usually drops to 3G or even 1X (sometimes zero signal).
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That's what I found odd. Everything indicated that I was still on 4G; I wasn't on 3G or 1X, but I definitely had speeds that belonged on 1X. I'm baffled - is this a hardware, software, or network issue?
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Just going into airplane mode will bring it back to 4G unless your on elm st. or something. I notice if you downloading our using data pretty heavily and it drops to 3G it won't always come back on It's own.
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Airplane mode doesn't do the trick for me. (And no, I don't live on Elm Street. ) My speeds dropped again this morning and I went straight for the SIM card; I didn't even bother trying airplane mode.
Like you, I've also noticed that after streaming a large amount of data that I'll drop to 3G and it won't switch back to 4G unless I toggle the mobile network off-and-on. I'm always streaming music on Spotify and I've seen this happen more times than I'd like.
Anyone having issues with 3g data dropping or network always disconnecting, takes a while to connect
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I had that problem with my sprint m9. Had it for a week with no problem then suddenly no data connect. No 3g or LTE for a couple days. Just Wi-Fi. I took it to a local corporate store and the best tech there eventually swapped out the sim and it's been connecting since. She told me sometimes the cards are bad from the start. Of all the phone's I've had that was a first for me.
Hmmm, mine seemed spotty today. A couple times I showed good 3G or LTE signal, but couldn't get data through.
Toggling airplane mode seemed to help.
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Anyone having issues with 3g data dropping or network always disconnecting, takes a while to connect
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so i had the same issue and when i got the new OTA the other day which has a new radio I think the data issues are even worse..
Try a profile update. I activated my phone in a non-sprint area and got really terrible 3g and NO 4g in known LTE saturated areas. Once I returned to my hometown I updated the profile and PRL and I instantly got LTE and the spark logo.
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Hmmm, mine seemed spotty today. A couple times I showed good 3G or LTE signal, but couldn't get data through.
Toggling airplane mode seemed to help.
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Yep I've had those issues since day 1. Occasionally the mobile data will disconnect, yet is switched on. Only toggling airplane will fix it.
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Yep I've had those issues since day 1. Occasionally the mobile data will disconnect, yet is switched on. Only toggling airplane will fix it.
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I'm having similar issues.
So far, I tracked it down to this...
If I am on WiFi and then switch off, it will connect to LTE. At that time, some items such as Mail, Facebook, talking to Google, etc. quit working. It just times out. However, I can still browse the web and perform other functions. It will work if I switch back to WiFi or 3G, but so far it appears that I have to restart the phone to get everything working under LTE at that point.
Can others confirm this?
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I'm having similar issues.
So far, I tracked it down to this...
If I am on WiFi and then switch off, it will connect to LTE. At that time, some items such as Mail, Facebook, talking to Google, etc. quit working. It just times out. However, I can still browse the web and perform other functions. It will work if I switch back to WiFi or 3G, but so far it appears that I have to restart the phone to get everything working under LTE at that point.
Can others confirm this?
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im having some similar issues. ill lose connectivity on LTE but it wont be disconnected from the LTE network, but switching to 3g or wifi works...ive narrowed it down to when I have a weak LTE signal. My house has always had a weak signal and thats where i notice it the most, I compared with my m8 and the signal levels are the same and connected to the same tower yet the m8 will work while the m9 acts like theres no connection at all, If i go outside and get a slightly better signal the m9 will work great.
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im having some similar issues. ill lose connectivity on LTE but it wont be disconnected from the LTE network, but switching to 3g or wifi works...ive narrowed it down to when I have a weak LTE signal. My house has always had a weak signal and thats where i notice it the most, I compared with my m8 and the signal levels are the same and connected to the same tower yet the m8 will work while the m9 acts like theres no connection at all, If i go outside and get a slightly better signal the m9 will work great.
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There is also a discussion about the same issue over on the Sprint Community forum: https://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/204027
I have come across this as well, it's usually when I use more than 4 GB of data over sprints network. I sent a message to sprint telling them their service is shotty at times, never heard anything back yet but haven't run into data connect issues (since then). Also I've heard you can complain about signal strength and if you put in the time (going to supervisor to supervisor) they will send you a device to boost your signal. Or you can just pay for the signal booster device. This is just my opinion and what I have heard, don't quote Bubba
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im having some similar issues. ill lose connectivity on LTE but it wont be disconnected from the LTE network, but switching to 3g or wifi works...ive narrowed it down to when I have a weak LTE signal. My house has always had a weak signal and thats where i notice it the most, I compared with my m8 and the signal levels are the same and connected to the same tower yet the m8 will work while the m9 acts like theres no connection at all, If i go outside and get a slightly better signal the m9 will work great.
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my data drops numours times a day and its getting pretty annoying, the phone constantly tells me i have lte but nothing works, browser, facebook, pandora, snapchat. Toggling airplane mode does nothing same with turning mobile data off and back on, sometimes updating the profile will work but man its driving me crazy!
Definitely a radio issue. We need a radio update bc this is killing the battery as well.
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I have come across this as well, it's usually when I use more than 4 GB of data over sprints network. I sent a message to sprint telling them their service is shotty at times, never heard anything back yet but haven't run into data connect issues (since then). Also I've heard you can complain about signal strength and if you put in the time (going to supervisor to supervisor) they will send you a device to boost your signal. Or you can just pay for the signal booster device. This is just my opinion and what I have heard, don't quote Bubba
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The airave signal booster is 3G and voice, had 1 for 4 years, hasn't worked reliably for the past 2 years and with these issues its not gonna help when the phone is able to get and hold the lte signal.
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The airave signal booster is 3G and voice, had 1 for 4 years, hasn't worked reliably for the past 2 years and with these issues its not gonna help when the phone is able to get and hold the lte signal.
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The issue is either hardware related, or possibly a radio handoff issue.
Has anyone swapped phones yet with a newer batch to see if it still occurs?
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The issue is either hardware related, or possibly a radio handoff issue.
Has anyone swapped phones yet with a newer batch to see if it still occurs?
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Yup doesn't matter, had a 1st day release and also a 1st day store release. Both have the issue for me.
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Yup doesn't matter, had a 1st day release and also a 1st day store release. Both have the issue for me.
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I'm constantly having the issue, and I've been advised to swap for a later release. My local stores are sold out, so I will advise once I have it swapped.
Any other possible solutions?
I did a swap myself and is not a hardware issues, I believe is the radio. I downloaded this signal check app to see what type of network connection is always on. I notice when connected on LTE, I have no problem. When it connects to 3g is where I have the issues especially indoors. It kinda tells me is connected in notification bar, but the network connection is stuck on 1xrtt.
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I did a swap myself and is not a hardware issues, I believe is the radio. I downloaded this signal check app to see what type of network connection is always on. I notice when connected on LTE, I have no problem. When it connects to 3g is where I have the issues especially indoors. It kinda tells me is connected in notification bar, but the network connection is stuck on 1xrtt.
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My problem, and what I have read from most others is on LTE. It works on 3G and WiFi.
Would this affect Hangouts messages from not coming through? If I'm not on WiFi, I'm on LTE, and message notifications won't come through when off of WiFi. They of course come in fine on WiFi....
It's weird...I was sitting at my desk and my phone was jumping back and forth between Sprint 25 and 41 every few seconds...I did the profile update and now I'm solidly on 25 steady.
I've also seen jumps to Verizon LTE which is sort of my blowing.
Hoping this also solves the issue in a spot near my house that I was dropping data completely where before I at least had a useable 3G signal.