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It's the question around my head stopping me to click on the pre-order button.
I have a N1 and though struggling with the internal memory, can't see having more than maybe 1GB or 2 in apps. I get that with this i would install a lot more, but what, another 2 GB? Maybe even 4?. Maybe 4 more in Music. I guess i would put there some films or series to watch. Maybe add what... 4GB? 8? I have a spare 16GB SD card (for use with the dock, which would probably get the films or series) and probably will get a 16 or 32 microSD for the tablet itself. That would be, at least, 64Gb. If i get the 64Gb version, it would mean at least 96GB
Why getting then the 64GB? I'm serious, i would really like to know the reasons people are behind the 64gb version. It's not that i believe it's not necessary, it's that I'm probably missing something in the equation and i don't want to miss anything so i can make the right choice before regretting not buying the right one.
Because.... People can afford it?
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HD videos can get pretty dang big...10+ GB for 1080p (assuming bluray rip).
simple fact is HD video takes a lot of space. you put a few movies on at full res on the tablet, you'll soon see 64GB evaporate.
I have 32gb on my phone and am under constant pressure to swap things around because I don't have enough space.
I ordered the 64GB. Because I don't want any limitations and have to "worry" about if I have enough space.
And now when we have hardware that can handle high quality video 720p/1080p why don't use it. When you have gone HD you never want to go back to low resolution videos.
All movies/series I watch are 720p mkv.
4-7GB is one movie.
1-1.5GB is on serie episode
0.5-1GB is one game, and those will gets bigger now when they can be more advanced.
even apps will get bigger when they gets more advance.
So fast you will reached the 32GB mark.
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All depends on your usage.
I keep around 20 gigs worth of music on my phone plus constantly swap out TV shows.
I got the 64gb version coming AND a 64gb microSD for it as well... I could easily see myself using the 64gb internal to fill up with pics and videos from the (from what it sounds like) great camera on the thing and have the microSD holding lots of videos, movies, ROMS etc... hell im lookin forward to the 2 terabyte microSD's!!
Because.........why not?
So I can laugh and look down from my mountain top upon all the 32GB peons!!!!
for $100, why not?
32GB Micro SD is about 60-70$ right now, 220$ for a 64GB. I want AT LEAST 64GB right now so I can dump all my music on it and use it instead of killing my data plan with Google Music. I'll end up getting a micro SD for it (64GB when they're a little more affordable anyways) so I can maximize the storage space on this thing. Games are huge, videos are huge. This thing takes pictures and video... why the hell not. What's 100$? You'll be paying more for the dock, but not for double the storage space? I think it's worth it.
64GB of local space is getting bigger and bigger the later we go into the future...
Look at Netflix, Hulu, YouTube, Google Music, Pandora, etc. and you will see a lot of that space is now useless.
But who cares? What if I want to go on a long road trip and I pack several Blu-rays on board or several giant games on? Maybe. Well, my 16GB TF101 still has about 10GB on it..... My 16GB iPhone 4 still has about 4GB on it... My 2.5TB HDD still has about 2TB left on it....
If you have $100 extra dollars to go down on this beatiful tab, go for it!
That have been a lot of answers for such a short time, thanks
I feel i'm convinced to go with the 64GB version, didn't know some games were so huge (with a N1 it's difficult to play anything not named angry birds ), and didn't remember the huge size of the HD files (sometimes i forget that because of the 2TB disk at the main pc, which never seem to end ). The main reason being, of course, laughing and looking down from the mountain to the 32GB peons
Now, time to wait, at least for christmas, for amazon.de to send it
HD videos...each clip can easily take gigs
Just because YOU use your devices a certain way does not mean everybody else should do the same as well. Some people have way more than 64gig of music. Some people have gigs of movies (I know I do). It's nice to copy a few 4gig+ movies over and not worry about left over space when I need the space later.
I have friends like this.. they say "16gb is fine for me, its all I need, why do you need a 64gb".. /facepalm
For many people, the 32GB model (supplemented by micro SD) is probably enough. But many is not all. Especially while travelling I do need A LOT more storage - I'd rather avoid having to use external storage or an SD card in the keyboard dock unless it's just for transferring photos from for example my digital camera. As a lot of commentators have mentioned, it's once you get into media storage especially video (but also to some extent music, photos, E-books, magazines/comics/PDFs and the like) that the 64GB model becomes advantageous. Basically, there is a lot of competing media requirements these days and I can only see that increasing. Cloud storage is not really an answer, as it's a solution for some of the issues but not others.
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Just because YOU use your devices a certain way does not mean everybody else should do the same as well. Some people have way more than 64gig of music. Some people have gigs of movies (I know I do). It's nice to copy a few 4gig+ movies over and not worry about left over space when I need the space later.
I have friends like this.. they say "16gb is fine for me, its all I need, why do you need a 64gb".. /facepalm
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That's exactly why i asked it seriously, not in a "i don't need it, why you do?" fashion, but in a "i don't know if i would need it, tell me why you do and i will see if i do"
It's my first tablet, and my other android device is a nexus one with just ~ 180MB for apps + storage and microSD (4gb atm). That's why i prefer asking than just deciding on my own, as i already said, i might miss something and that's what i don't want And i asked it publicly because i might not be the only one with the doubt
Well, I deleted all my music from Transformer because of free space problem. 32GB would also be too little. 64GB + some SD/mSD would be OK though.
Excuse my noobness because this is my first ever tablet and i don't know that much about rooting or any of that but i have a few questions
1. Does it support CBR/CBZ/PDF? one of the main reasons i want a tablet is for comics/books, do i have to "root" it?
2. What video formats does it support? not a huge issue because i will mostly be using netflix for video
3. When "rooting" or any of that stuff does it disable netflix? i hear it disables the amazon prime stuff on fire.
Basically i am getting it for casual video watching and comic/book reading with web surfing, is the nook for me? kindle fire? i don't know anything about tablets but have dabbled in homebrew/jailbreaking for other devices.
If this has been posted im sorry i just want to make sure i am picking the right tablet for me before i drop the $ tomorrow.
Here are some answers to your questions (and people reading can feel free to correct me if I'm incorrect about any of this stuff).
1. The NT will read PDFs and CBZ natively, no root required. It handles both pretty well. To read CBR, you'll need to sideload a comic reader app (which is relatively easy). There are some great ones out there. You don't need to root to sideload apps, you can download them via the browser, or put them on on an SD card. Or you can get some in the Amazon app store. And if you do root, you can find them in the Google App store. But again, you do not need to root to read CBRs. And you don't need to do anything to read CBZs and PDFs. The NT's reader app can handle both.
2. Video format is limited to 3GP, MP4, 3G2 and FLV. But you can sideload video players (again, this doesn't require a root) that will allow you play avi, mkv and a few other formats.
3. I have heard nothing about rooting disabling netflix. It's possible some people are having issues, but those are likely isolated incidents. Mine works just fine anyhow.
For casual video watching, comic reading and ebooks, the nook tablet is fantastic. I highly recommend.
Hope this helps.
>Does it support CBR/CBZ/PDF?
>What video formats does it support?
https://nookdeveloper.barnesandnoble.com/product/nook-tablet-specs.html
Built-in capability has PDF and MP4 (video). You'd want to sideload dedicated readers/players, not just for unsupported formats, but also for their better capability.
If you have Netflix, then Netflix HD sounds like a win. For movies in general, I use Moboviewer along with CIFSManager to view them over wifi. Comic reader: I use Perfect Reader (free). PDF = ezPDF (not free). Rule-of-thumb: For anything needed, Google "best [xyz app] for android".
Web surfing on a 7" is cramped and awkward, although it's fine for quickie sessions. The small screen (and narrow aspect) is one problem. The larger problem is simply that mobile browsers aren't as good as desktop ones, and your finger isn't as good a pointing device as a mouse. I'm hopeful for improvements on the software side and am looking forward to the new Firefox for Android.
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Here are some answers to your questions (and people reading can feel free to correct me if I'm incorrect about any of this stuff).
1. The NT will read PDFs and CBZ natively, no root required. It handles both pretty well. To read CBR, you'll need to sideload a comic reader app (which is relatively easy). There are some great ones out there. You don't need to root to sideload apps, you can download them via the browser, or put them on on an SD card. Or you can get some in the Amazon app store. And if you do root, you can find them in the Google App store. But again, you do not need to root to read CBRs. And you don't need to do anything to read CBZs and PDFs. The NT's reader app can handle both.
2. Video format is limited to 3GP, MP4, 3G2 and FLV. But you can sideload video players (again, this doesn't require a root) that will allow you play avi, mkv and a few other formats.
3. I have heard nothing about rooting disabling netflix. It's possible some people are having issues, but those are likely isolated incidents. Mine works just fine anyhow.
For casual video watching, comic reading and ebooks, the nook tablet is fantastic. I highly recommend.
Hope this helps.
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Awesome! so it pretty much will do everything i want it to do without having to do all the rooting (which i eventually want to learn how to do) and you say it supports PDF/CBZ etc. and i don't know if me asking what i am about to breaks a TOS so i will word it differently, can i import my legally obtained books (and speaking of books what format do you think will be the best for the nook?) from my pc to it?
Also what is Netflix HD? glad it supports AVI and stuff that's awesome but that brings me to a question i totally forgot to ask i hear it has 16gb but only 1gb can be used for loading your own stuff? what about the micro SD? i can load whatever i want on a microSD right? if so can i load my pdfs etc. and will it accept any brand microSD? sorry if these questions sound stupid i just have 0 knowledge when it comes to tablets i played with my aunts ipad2 over thanksgiving and thought to myself how did i live this long without a tablet? and i ain't paying $600 for one
1. The native reader doesn't support CBR- but you can convert them to CBZ. (They're really RAR and ZIP files, so conversion is literally unrar/zip) The first post of this thread has info on converting.
Even if you don't root, you can sideload apps, and sideload the Market to then download apps directly. (Plenty of instruction here on how to do it). Sideload or get from Market your choice of comic reader for more file formats. (I prefer ComicRack Free). You can still use the stock reader as well- it's pretty good.
PDF is supported. Again, you can sideload a more full-featured app like Mantano Reader Free.
2. So far I've only played .mp4 and .avi files, but playback has been perfect. I never bothered with the stock player; sideload MX Video Player and/or any other Android video player. It's a safe bet MXVP and others supports a wider range of formats than the stock.
3. No, rooting doesn't disable Netflix. Following the instructions for rooting posted here was a breeze.
I don't know about the Kindle Fire first hand, but for your uses the NT is a great choice. If movies are important, I'd say the SD card slot is a must-have.
Right on! thanks for all the quick responses but i have one last question and it's about side loading, what exactly is side loading? is that just plugging it into your PC and dragging?
Sideloading= installing apps other than the ones B&N intended. The simplest way is downloading a .apk file of the app in the stock browser, and running it from the downloads folder.
This is a good guide, and then how to add the apps to the native home screen.
Also this thread has been an invaluable resource for .apk locations of common apps.
Surf to that page on your NT after you get it and load it up!
Last question this time i swear lol
I forgot to ask on the microSD, do i just throw the PDF's and what not in the root folder? or do i need to add folders etc.
I popped in a 32GB SD card before putting any files on it and the NT created a My Files folder with logical directories. I created a folder called Comics at the root level for my .cbz files and every reader has picked it right up.
Definitely get an SD card right away, I found that a few apps wouldn't load without one present.
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Just a couple of places to get said card:
I got mine at Best Buy (8GB for now), but there are better options:
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-micro...H0SC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1322753095&sr=8-1 ($10 for 16GB)
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-32GB-...JYCY/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1322753095&sr=8-6 ($36 for 32GB)
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Just a couple of places to get said card:
I got mine at Best Buy (8GB for now), but there are better options:
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Awesome thanks! i will probably get the $10 4gb at bestbuy today when i pick it up to have one and order that 32gb one today.
Will a kingston class 4 or class 10 micro sdhc work?
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Awesome thanks! i will probably get the $10 4gb at bestbuy today when i pick it up to have one and order that 32gb one today.
Will a kingston class 4 or class 10 micro sdhc work?
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Both class 4 and 10 work. They just reference the write speed of the card. A higher class is faster than lower class. Supposedly, a class 10 can write at 10mb/sec, but if you read reviews not all cards can meet it.
Any microSD card should work. I'm not sure a higher class makes much difference. Anyone have experience with that? I just bought the cheapest one from Best Buy; I know it was overpriced compared to what you can find online but I didn't need a ton of storage, just needed to fill the slot so the Amazon Appstore and other things would work.
I bought a class 4- it works fine for everything, movies and data. I don't know for sure, but I would guess the higher speed cards will really only make a big difference directly mounted with a computer transferring files faster, not on the NT itself. But I have no idea what's the highest speed the NT itself can take advantage of.
Class 4 works very well for me. Just make sure you format it using SD Formatter 3.1 which is a free download to your lap or desktop. I read somewhere in a thread on XDA that this will insure no problems with your downloads(can't find the link now, It was late when I read it). The windows standard SD formatter or the on board Nook formatter can pose problems for some downloads but the SD 3.1 seems to be rock solid for downloads. This is what I used and pretty much everything I've wanted to download has worked without a problem.
I would advise a Class 4 card, I believe 16gb will do just fine but, if you're planning on traveling and watching movies/series, it's better (obviously) to have a higher capacity card.
Anyway, as I was saying, I would advise a C4 card, it works perfectly for transferring files, watching video (this is the major reason, really), etc. Just make sure it IS a class 4 card, I've seen a lot advertised as one but it really isn't, try buying from a reputable store, I'd look in amazon, read the reviews carefully.
I bought a PNY class 10 32gb card that i found for $50 on amazon. Hope I don't have trouble with the slow random writes. Although, i plan on using it mostly for storing movies and tv shows, so maybe i'll be okay. It sounds as though it would be bad for putting an OS on it, but I don't think I'll ever need to do that given the locked bootloader.
I used to have issues running apps off of SD cards on my phone if they were slower than class 6, so that seems to be my minimum - but I have not tested a slower one on a nook, nor do I run apps off of an SD card (the internal storage is better and larger, heh). The speeds really vary though and rarely is it actually what is reported See what others review the card as, buy a reliable brand, cross your fingers
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I used to have issues running apps off of SD cards on my phone if they were slower than class 6, so that seems to be my minimum - but I have not tested a slower one on a nook, nor do I run apps off of an SD card (the internal storage is better and larger, heh). The speeds really vary though and rarely is it actually what is reported See what others review the card as, buy a reliable brand, cross your fingers
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Thanks, that made me feel a little better about my purchase
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Thanks, that made me feel a little better about my purchase
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Yeah, it's not a bad deal (actually pretty great deal) either for a class 10, to be honest. If you're using an SD card solely for ebooks/storage, any speed is ok (and likely will be slower than what it's rated, especially as it gets older). If you want to run games/apps off of it, have a video camera that writes at a certain speed, want to load OSes off of it (if applicable), the slow cards as terrible at best, and crash the device at worst (this is what happened with my phone!).
For those of you that want to get a 64gb model, what do you plan on using it for that justifies the extra cost?
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i am a pilot and like to carry approach plates and charts for the entire us. I know i could get a microsd but i already have a nearly full class 10 32gb microSD so its just more space.
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For those of you that want to get a 64gb model, what do you plan on using it for that justifies the extra cost?
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I think this is a no brainer really. a 64gb micro SD card is like what $200+, to get 96gb on a 32gb model would be quite expensive, but if you get a 64gb model and then add a 32gb card, it would work out less.
and if you have a lot of full hi-def movies on a tablet, to take full advantage of the hi-res screen, you won't fit many films on a 32gb card.
Gobs of media files - music and pdf manuals largely. While wifi coverage grows daily, I'm not in a major metropolitan area so finding coverage can be a challenge. The cloud is great - if you can get at it.
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For those of you that want to get a 64gb model, what do you plan on using it for that justifies the extra cost?
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Why do people buy 32gb?
I ordered the 64GB version because I can, I say it's better with to much space then to little. And I don't want to come in that position that I don't have enough space, don't like when I get limited because of the hardware.
videos and music is the main use. I first thought on to buy the 32GB + MicroSD card, but with MicroSD you are limited to 4GB files and that is not good when most of the movies are bigger then 4GB. (can be wrong about this)
And was there something wrong with this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19853926
[Q] Why 64GB?
B/C $100 for double the disk space is a good deal.... and I'm not constrained by my budget... so why wouldn't I get it?
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If you need to have 96 gb or more its better. It depends on what your using it for. Those who are buying 32gb I think have a very specific use in mind and know how much space they need or are just going to use it as a media consumption device.
Those that are buying the 64gb version probably fit in 3 camps:
1) can afford the space so why not?
2) are using it for work and know/need/want to make sure that they have all of their materials at hand if they have no connectivity (I need geo maps, research papers, my own work, and entertainment on the device.) and don't want to lug or power a portable device.
3) Commuters who want to have access to a large selection of media on the device.
I personally would love to have a 128gb chip or a few of them and dump my bulky external drive. Though I think their price is a little high yet. 1tb would give me wet dreams. (my current ext hd)
Though I do amit that even if I didn't think I had the need for 64gb I would have bought it as you can never add more to the device itself. Say if you buy 32gb and need 128 your spending more than if you bought 64gb and 64gb chip. Barring the fact that you carry a collection of chips.
Cheers!
I'm just trying to think of whether I would be able to make use of the extra space. I don't think "why not?" or "because I can" are good reasons
I feel like maybe there are some useful/cool things I could do with the prime if I had extra space, but I'm still not sure what that is. I only have like ~8 gigs of music. I don't feel like I need a large media library on my device, since I'll know the 1 or 2 things I want to watch at any given time.
Using it as a general storage device might be interesting though.
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I'm just trying to think of whether I would be able to make use of the extra space. I don't think "why not?" or "because I can" are good reasons
I feel like maybe there are some useful/cool things I could do with the prime if I had extra space, but I'm still not sure what that is. I only have like ~8 gigs of music. I don't feel like I need a large media library on my device, since I'll know the 1 or 2 things I want to watch at any given time.
Using it as a general storage device might be interesting though.
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Sounds like you might be better with a 32gb version then. Just think of all you would want to put on it get an estimated size then how close are you to 32gb if you break it I would buy the 64gb if you don't come close a 32 with an sdhc for expansion would be good I think.
I also think because I can can be a valid reason, think of it like this at the price the difference is not much for double the storage. Personally being a dink(double income no kids) the extra cost is nothing but the cost of not buying what I need can be the difference between having a useful device with no extra work to a useful device that I have to manage what sdhc cards have want info, loaded, and hope I don't loose the other cards. Just dont forget the oppurnity cost of the device.
I don't get why people think $100 extra is a fair deal for the 64GB.
An Samsung 32GB Class 10 card is €30 in Holland, while we pay €100 extra for the 64GB version.
Because I need more than 128gb I think a >=96gb chip is more than 100? And 100$ just is not that much to me.
Well future devices will have up to 128GB of flash storage. It was just released a couple weeks back or so that they finally made it possible.
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I don't get why people think $100 extra is a fair deal for the 64GB.
An Samsung 32GB Class 10 card is €30 in Holland, while we pay €100 extra for the 64GB version.
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I don't get why I should have to justify why I want the 64 GB model.... if there was a $1000 limited edition one, I would have got that one, b/c I can.
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I don't get why I should have to justify why I want the 64 GB model.... if there was a $1000 limited edition one, I would have got that one, b/c I can.
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Dude, if you like needlessly throwing money at things just because you can, feel free to throw a little my way
JoeyLe said:
I don't get why people think $100 extra is a fair deal for the 64GB.
An Samsung 32GB Class 10 card is €30 in Holland, while we pay €100 extra for the 64GB version.
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to get 96gb on a 32gb model would be quite expensive as a 64gb card is $200+, but if you get a 64gb model and then add a 32gb card, it would work out less.
and if you have a lot of full hi-def movies on a tablet, to take full advantage of the hi-res screen, you won't fit many films on a 32gb card.
Do you stream or do you store? Storing music, even if you have a large library, doesn't chew up tons of storage. Video, especially high-profile, does. Plex and PlayOn pretty much eliminate the need to store video locally. I only store stuff when I know I'm going to be on long plane flights without Wi-Fi.
I've got about 2K Rhapsody downloads on my 32GB and a couple of local MKV videos and am using less than half the storage. More is always better and once you buy it you can't go back but it's also kind of stupid to piss money away (no matter how much you claim to have) on something you're not going to use. And it looks like January for the 64GB's so that's something to consider too.
I'm the one who created the other thread. I finally decided for the 64GB for the following reasons:
-I can (i mean, it's not a real effort to pay the extra)
-Now i don't see the real need for the 64Gb, but i don't know if i will need them in the time i have it, as it's my first tablet. Having the 64Gb means if in the future i need the extra storage, i will have it. Having the 32Gb would mean the need to buy extra microSD cards.
-I travel a lot, and sometimes for long time. SD cards are fine, but internal storage means faster reads and less problems (like forgetting the sd or having it lost/broken for any reason)
-I plan on using it for a little gaming too, if the games start to need more space, i will already have it and not depend on the sd card. I hate having to watch which apps I can have or not have due to space in my Nexus One.
-I have a dSLR so i'd like to use it too for pic displaying and very basic editing if needed (with the dock + sd cards). This pics are quite huge (10mb each, ~30mb if shot in raw), so moving a few of them to the internal storage (for using without the dock) would be quite space consuming.
-Having a 32gb microsd card means 96gb instead of 64, which further expands this capabilities.
I can't depend either on music/video streaming. Most music I like isn't in cloud services and Google Music isn't available in Spain. My internet connection is pretty bad, and the router is even worse, with ocasional and random wifi disconnections.
With all this in mind, i just prefer spending a few more € on the 64gb and not fall short in some weeks.
Oh, i forgot the main reason. To stand up in the top of the mountain and laugh at the 32gb people
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I'm not constrained by my budget... so why wouldn't I get it?
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I don't get why I should have to justify why I want the 64 GB model.... if there was a $1000 limited edition one, I would have got that one, b/c I can.
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-I can (i mean, it's not a real effort to pay the extra)
Oh, i forgot the main reason. To stand up in the top of the mountain and laugh at the 32gb people
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It's fantastic that you both have the resources. It's incredibly ostentatious that, for whatever reason, you feel the need to share it with others that may not be in your position. Between this and the post in the BB thread where someone's order got canceled because of a debit card issue and some schmuck posted "I don't need to worry, my credit card has no limit" I'd say there's a lot of people on this forum who need to validate themselves.
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It's fantastic that you both have the resources. It's incredibly ostentatious that, for whatever reason, you feel the need to share it with others that may not be in your position. Between this and the post in the BB thread where someone's order got canceled because of a debit card issue and some schmuck posted "I don't need to worry, my credit card has no limit" I'd say there's a lot of people on this forum who need to validate themselves.
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That's way out of the reason i posted it. The OP is asking for reasons to get a 64 gb model over a 32gb one. Pricing is one of the possible reasons so I included it in the list just because it was an issue i considered while asking myself the same question, so it might be relevant to the OP. If i were just to try to show how proud i am of the money i have, i would remove the parenthesis (where i state that if getting the 64gb is an effort the OP should consider the 32Gb instead). The last sentence was a joke that someone posted on my the thread i created for this same reason and i liked and copied it here. You can check it if you want at the link someone posted in this thread.
I would buy the 64gb version due to the fact that on Honeycomb you can not move apps to the sd card and maybe this will change with ICS so with games taking up a lot of space the extra memory would be nice.
Hello everyone.
After reading lots of reviews and opinions and having the oportunity to use the tablet, im sure i want to buy a Sony Tablet S
Now comes the second decission to make.. ¿Which model? As the title of the post says, im between 32Gb or 16Gb+3G.
I know that whatever the model is, the space for installing apps are the 4GB partition and i think the apps that allow moving to Sd card, in this tablet means moving to the second partition but never to the external sdcard. So... Do you think the 4GB are enough for all kind of apps and games?
About the 3G conexion, thats something i will use mainly during travels. Instead of creating the hotspot with my mobile (and draining its battery), i'll change the SIM card to the tablet. Another option is buying a prepaid SIM with some data-plan to just use with the tablet during those travels, and when i dont have available wifi's.
A requirement would be to have access to music in the external sdcard, but allowing to reproduce a full album. I have the movies part resolved with the MxPlayer, but dont know any beauty music app which allow to do that
Well, any opinion or advice are welcome, so dont hesitate to post it !
Thank you in advance
I'd go with PowerAMP, it works beautiful. Might use WinAMP as well.
But I prefer PowerAMP myself. It can access the external sd-card without problems.
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I'd go with PowerAMP, it works beautiful. Might use WinAMP as well.
But I prefer PowerAMP myself. It can access the external sd-card without problems.
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Thanks for your answer ^^
I think that PowerAMP is not free, but anyway, if is possible to access and reproduce lists and full albums from the external sdcard, my requirment is accomplished so...
¿What would be your choose, 16GB+3G or 32GB?
(Forgot to say in the first post that price difference between both models are just 20€ )
I suppose that you'll bring it around to work or travel, thus with 3G is a better option. And you can buy SD card for more storage and even cheaper.
Hope you will have your own choice. Cheers and welcome to this community
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Kitinz said:
Thanks for your answer ^^
I think that PowerAMP is not free, but anyway, if is possible to access and reproduce lists and full albums from the external sdcard, my requirment is accomplished so...
¿What would be your choose, 16GB+3G or 32GB?
(Forgot to say in the first post that price difference between both models are just 20€ )
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I'd go for the 16GB+3G if the difference is that little, then get yourself a nice SDXC 128GB sd-card and space won't be much of a problem. At least not external. However internal might be eaten after a while if you install to many apps hehe.
Yes I know PowerAMP cost a few $$$ but it's worth it. WinAMP cost too. THough both exist as free-versions for you to try. So you can get the feel for it.
I'd go with the 16GB+3G too. I miss the 3G from my old Galaxy Tab since I got a Wi-Fi version and with full-size SD card and USB storage capabilities, storage isn't a huge problem unless you install stupendous amounts of apps.
Thanxs for all the answers.
The usage of the tablet is not going to be for work, but i'll bring it in my own travels where i wont have available a 3G network since the cost of using it in other countries are so expensive
I also found a nice music player (Meridian player), which allow to reproduce lists from the external sdcard, so with MxPlayer and Meridian i got covered the multimedia part.
Im also planning to use the tablet for playing games from psn, gameloft and emulators, so what bothers me is that the 16GB version only have around 8.5GB in the usb storage and im quite sure that all this kind of games cant be installed in the external sd.
How much space does this games take up in the usb storage? I know that having 3G is a great option, but im almost deciding on the 32 version just for this reason
Kitinz said:
Thanxs for all the answers.
Im also planning to use the tablet for playing games from psn, gameloft and emulators, so what bothers me is that the 16GB version only have around 8.5GB in the usb storage and im quite sure that all this kind of games cant be installed in the external sd.
How much space does this games take up in the usb storage? I know that having 3G is a great option, but im almost deciding on the 32 version just for this reason
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Most of the gameloft games I've seen have been about 250MB worth of SD card data (maximum, although there's been reports of them taking up to 1GB), so you'd still be able to fit plenty of stuff on there. If you're that worried about it, sure, get the 32GB, but I think it's more about how you're going to use it.
I myself went with the 16GB as I already have an additional 16GB SD Card.
I have a MP3 player that I keep most of my music on, I mostly keep movies on my tablet.
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I myself went with the 16GB as I already have an additional 16GB SD Card.
I have a MP3 player that I keep most of my music on, I mostly keep movies on my tablet.
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Same here. I bought the 16GB version, since I already have 16GB and 8GB SD cards handy. Plus, once I bought my USB OTG cable I just keep movies on a 16GB USB and transfer them to the SD card one at a a time. Works a treat for me.
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Most of the gameloft games I've seen have been about 250MB worth of SD card data (maximum, although there's been reports of them taking up to 1GB)
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That's cause the only ones available on the Tablet S are worthless P.O.S. compared to the ones unavailable.
Games such as backstab HD, NOVA 2HD, Modern combat 2 and 3, 9mm etc have pretty much 600mb minimum.
w/ full sized SD cards available, 32gb isn't necessary at all as we've confirmed up to 128Gb SDXC cards working.
16Gb is more than enough for app / games storage (how many 1Gb games do you play?) in my opinon, but of course consider your own usage scenario
So annoying, another phone I'm interested in ruined straight away by no Micro SD and only a 16gb version. Problem is with tech it moves so fast that making you wait a few months for a 32gb version means I might as well then wait for the Galaxy S4 lol.
I don't get why we're going backwards in terms of storage.
Non expandable storage is pretty much criminal, yeah. Jury is out on the battery size, but there's no reason they couldn't have included a SD slot - it's less than a dollar's worth of parts.
Even if the battery turns out to be adequate, the lack of storage makes the phone untenable. 32gb could have been lived with, 64gb would be ideal.
I understand where you are coming from but when you look from a "normal" consumers point of view they probably could care less because most dont know how it works.
Venekor said:
So annoying, another phone I'm interested in ruined straight away by no Micro SD and only a 16gb version. Problem is with tech it moves so fast that making you wait a few months for a 32gb version means I might as well then wait for the Galaxy S4 lol.
I don't get why we're going backwards in terms of storage.
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I really don't see the problem, okay I lie, I do. But it is not that big of a deal, with cloud storage like dropbox (50 gb free with gs3) and drive, I would mostly use the 11 gb for pics and videos and apps, which fills up fast with the new advance camera's. So I automatically have my pics uploaded to google+, upload my videos via wifee to dropbox. Apps, I'm just going to have to deal with it, music is stored on google music.
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I really don't see the problem, okay I lie, I do. But it is not that big of a deal, with cloud storage like dropbox (50 gb free with gs3) and drive, I would mostly use the 11 gb for pics and videos and apps, which fills up fast with the new advance camera's. So I automatically have my pics uploaded to google+, upload my videos via wifee to dropbox. Apps, I'm just going to have to deal with it, music is stored on google music.
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I have to agree. I dont use my phone to store movies.
I use DropBox & Drive to store music and short video's. With the 100 or so apps I have on my 8GB thunderbolt and tons of pictures, I still have about 1.8GB of free space on it.
Still, it woudl be nice to have a 32GB option, or the SD slot.. very silly of HTC not to have more storage capacity in their new 'flagship phone' ... but 16GB is going to be fine for me for the next 2 years.
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ZigZagJoe said:
Non expandable storage is pretty much criminal, yeah. Jury is out on the battery size, but there's no reason they couldn't have included a SD slot - it's less than a dollar's worth of parts.
Even if the battery turns out to be adequate, the lack of storage makes the phone untenable. 32gb could have been lived with, 64gb would be ideal.
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Strange...... pdadb.net states that the DNA has a micro SD slot supporting up to 32gigs. http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3950&c=htc_droid_dna_adr6435__droid_incredible_x_htc_dlx but that might have been a rumor or based on the Japanese sister phone "J-Butterfly". The Verizon website makes no mention of a micro SD slot though. Deal breaker for me!
I would have loved if it had 32 gigs on board as well. Then the I could have dealt with the lack of micro sd.
I don't want to have to have to play the cloud storage file management game where I have to keep uploading and downloading and deciding what I want on my phone. I don't mind 16GB internal as long as I have a micro SD slot or I don't mind having 32GB and no Micro SD right now. The problem is files and apps are only going to get larger so by the time 16GB goes away in favour of 32GB that'll be too small then too.
I mean just give me an option to have the storage size I want. 16GB is only like 11-13GB usable..... well over half of that goes to my music and then some games are a couple GB now....... suddenly I'm out of space and cannot record video.
Just had an online chat with Verizon Rep and she put me on hold while she checked and confirmed that the micro sd card slot is not mentioned on the specs on the verizon page (as I told her). I told her that Verizon had made a big mistake (with less total memory than my Rezound) on the DNA. She said "Verizon is not the manufacturer" (Duh!). I said true but it is made to Verizon's specifications by hTC.....oh well! I might be forced into the arms of the Galaxy Note II (which at least has up to 64 gigs of micro sd storage available to go with its paltry 16 gigs on board).
Sorry to say it guys, but you are going to see more of this down the road. This has been brought up by all the manufacturers for the last year or two. For some reason the manufacturers want to push us to cloud service. I can see a 32gb coming out soon, but as for sd card slot.... When I first got the phone for testing, the first thing I said was "no SD card slot". After taking with HTC I moved all my music to Google cloud and found that it works very good with the Google Music player. So what I'm trying to say is you are going to see this more down the road.
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Sorry to say it guys, but you are going to see more of this down the road. This has been brought up by all the manufacturers for the last year or two. For some reason the manufacturers want to push us to cloud service. I can see a 32gb coming out soon, but as for sd card slot.... When I first got the phone for testing, the first thing I said was "no SD card slot". After taking with HTC I moved all my music to Google cloud and found that it works very good with the Google Music player. So what I'm trying to say is you are going to see this more down the road.
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I agree. I wonder how long it will be before we see a 32gb version (if we do).
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Until Networks increase data caps dramatically, cloud storage is useless.
Venekor said:
Until Networks increase data caps dramatically, cloud storage is useless.
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Yes your right, something needs to be done. The DNA is not the only new hot phone with no SD card slot, check out the Google Nexus 7 and Google Nexus 4. Like I said we will see more and more of this down the road.
verizon spec'd the phone without a micro SD slot. The J Butterfly did have it (if I remember correctly). Drink up more data from them. That is what they are selling now, not phone calls.
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Yes your right, something needs to be done. The DNA is not the only new hot phone with no SD card slot, check out the Google Nexus 7 and Google Nexus 4. Like I said we will see more and more of this down the road.
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I've been interested in getting a new handset since the Nexus 4 purely because it was so cheap, however without a 32GB model at least it becomes useless for me even at the price, it would be like downgrading. Now however I'm interested in buying a new mobile just because I've gotten myself excited at the thought, even though my upgrade is in April and I'm perfectly happy with my GS2. Now this phone was announced I thought great it's basically a Nexus 4........ no 32GB or Micro SD...... FFS!
I'm just gonna end up waiting till April and hopefully the GS4 will be on the horizon and I'll get that, no way would Samsung design it without a Micro SD or at least a 32GB model.
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dweezle said:
verizon spec'd the phone without a micro SD slot. The J Butterfly did have it (if I remember correctly). Drink up more data from them. That is what they are selling now, not phone calls.
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I just realized that you are absolutely correct ! freakin verizon... why else would they make such a small internal capacity, amazing screen to make u watch more videos and no sd storage
I dont know why that didnt click in my head
I wonder how long will HTC keep bending over for verizon ? until they lose all their customer base completely... ?
It's like a crippled expensive horse. I will wait to see some DNA+ edition etc. Then maybe if the storage is right i will buy it
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verizon spec'd the phone without a micro SD slot. The J Butterfly did have it (if I remember correctly). Drink up more data from them. That is what they are selling now, not phone calls.
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I wouldn't say Verizon spec'd out the phone. HTC took many users considerations into this phone. Remember XDA and/or developers are only a small part of the cell phone world. I'm not saying I like the ideal of 16gb without a SD card, but......
~16GB doesn't effect my choice of any future phone. I got 25GB on Skydrive, 30 on DB and the measly 7GB on GDrive. So essentially those 16GB is only temp storage for photos/videos before I delete them off the phone once i see there already on DB and my music is streamed from Google Music. So the majority of it is for Apps which i don't download many anyways.
You people complain about MORE MORE MORE!! But dam what are keeping on that phone? Pictures and Videos? Things that can easily be lost if the phone gets lost/stolen or outright bricks on you. NO offense
But to each their own
I wan't Google to release a Desktop Client for Android like Zune or ... forgive me iTunes which i can easily plug my phone to charge and everything gets backed up via USB or Wifi.
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~16GB doesn't effect my choice of any future phone. I got 25GB on Skydrive, 30 on DB and the measly 7GB on GDrive. So essentially those 16GB is only temp storage for photos/videos before I delete them off the phone once i see there already on DB and my music is streamed from Google Music. So the majority of it is for Apps which i don't download many anyways.
You people complain about MORE MORE MORE!! But dam what are keeping on that phone? Pictures and Videos? Things that can easily be lost if the phone gets lost/stolen or outright bricks on you. NO offense
But to each their own
I wan't Google to release a Desktop Client for Android like Zune or ... forgive me iTunes which i can easily plug my phone to charge and everything gets backed up via USB or Wifi.
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Not everyone has an unlimited plan, I'm stuck on a shared 4GB data plan w/ 4 people if I go with Verizon. Sprint is starting to get tempting though...
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Tachi91 said:
~16GB doesn't effect my choice of any future phone. I got 25GB on Skydrive, 30 on DB and the measly 7GB on GDrive. So essentially those 16GB is only temp storage for photos/videos before I delete them off the phone once i see there already on DB and my music is streamed from Google Music. So the majority of it is for Apps which i don't download many anyways.
You people complain about MORE MORE MORE!! But dam what are keeping on that phone? Pictures and Videos? Things that can easily be lost if the phone gets lost/stolen or outright bricks on you. NO offense
But to each their own
I wan't Google to release a Desktop Client for Android like Zune or ... forgive me iTunes which i can easily plug my phone to charge and everything gets backed up via USB or Wifi.
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I keep EVERY THING on clouds, picasa , 100 gb google drive , google music
I just dont trust verizon to let me keep my grandfather unlimited forever, and i am terrified to wake up one day to realize that i have a 2gb cap to access 160 gb worth of material
between custom roms , and recoveries and the rom backups , 16 gb is barely enough . at that point , where i will have to buy an mp3 player and carry that separately.
and i can kiss pandora goodbye if verizon caps it
the only thing i am certain of is the phone specs and that verizon are flat out without any conscious or loyalty.