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I've read up on a lot of people bricking their Vibrants and quite frankly they're scary. Also I'm new so cut me some slack if I put this in the wrong thread :{D
Compared to the G1, the vibrant is easily bricked if you don't follow directions.
It is also extremely easy to recover. It's not like hard bricking a G1.
this thing is a tank .. most people end up with soft bricks.
if anything and i mean anything on thep hone works.
meaning the lights light up at the bottom, your good.
if nothing turns on no lights, no screen logo anything, then your hardbricked, we've been getting hard bricks this month a lot, but its because of user fault, follow correct instructions and then you'll be good to go.
REMEMBER; IF THE OP HASN'T SAID "NO NEED TO DISABLE VOODOO" then disable it. voodoo not being disabled when going to another rom is probably 95% of the reason of soft bricks.
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Compared to the G1, the vibrant is easily bricked if you don't follow directions.
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That is SO FAR off base. The Vibrant is nearly impossible to Brick (HARD brick....).
Thank you and also I read that you cant upgrade to certain things or root certain things from stock or else your phone will get bricked. Is that true or..?
I think what you are referencing is when people performed a lag fix (converted the file system to EXT2 or 4)... and then flashed a rom on top of it without disabling the lag fix first. THIS would cause a soft brick (its not a brick, but people call it one.... makes NO sense).
Alll you would do is just use ODIN to get back to stock.... not hard at all. Really, really hard to brick this phone for good.
Haha, thanks. Also would you recommend any ROMs? I'm totally lost with all of these choices.. And would you recommend using a one click root or the zip? Or any other root method; I'm so lost!
The g1 was scary easy to brick. The vibrant is a tank in comparison. Flash away with confidence.
It's easily bricked. I bricked my first Vibrant because I fergot to disable voodoo before flashing a different rom and it wouldn't even turn on after
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It's easily bricked. I bricked my first Vibrant because I fergot to disable voodoo before flashing a different rom and it wouldn't even turn on after
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Now, whos fault is that for not disabling voodoo?
You probably did something else too, because just that doesn't cause a hard brick. EVER.
This thing has a brick proof coating applied. If you mess up you can Odin back to a stock image 123.
Don't blame me, blame my keyboard's autocorrection algorithm.
The only time my phone bricked(soft) was when Tmo sent an update a while back...lol...otherwise, I have never bricked(soft nor hard) my vibrant...with the newest ROMS all have the voodoo that you you can just install on top of another so my suggestion is to just stay with ROMS that have voodoo...besides it provides the best experience...also, ODIN back to stock before switching ROMS by different chefs...if its just a newer version of the same ROM just Wipe Data and Wipe Davlik then flash and you'll be good...happy flashing!!!
p.s. I recommend Axura by Master...its awesome and he consistently updates it
Thank you! One last thing If I use odin to get back to stock before I unlock the device to work on At&t am I not going to be able to unlock it? Or is there some magical way to get the unlock codes?
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That is SO FAR off base. The Vibrant is nearly impossible to Brick (HARD brick....).
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This is correct. The G1 Is way easier to really screw up. The vibrant is so forgiving. It is imho the best phone to learn to modify, because it takes a REAL moronic action to brick it.
oka1 said:
This is correct. The G1 Is way easier to really screw up. The vibrant is so forgiving. It is imho the best phone to learn to modify, because it takes a REAL moronic action to brick it.
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"moronic action" ....that is so full of win.
Well said and true though.
I did one flash...to TNT version 4xx, and I loved it...but I'm finding I'm getting lots of Google Framework errors and generally just kind of want to start from scratch, over again.....go back to the latest version of the official viewsonic roms.
Sadly I didn't use clockwork or anything so I think my original files are history
I know there are lots of threads, and I tried to follow one about snagging a rom and moving it to the Root and all it does is re-install TNT I think I am "not getting something".
Can someone walk me through this....
The force closes can be fixed by re-partitioning your sd card. Part 1 Step 7 in this tutorial:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865245
But partitioning will erase everything, and is usually done after installing cwm and before flashing a rom.
You really don't want to go back to stock, especially if it's only to gain stability. All the force closes will go away when the tablet is properly formatted.
If your looking to go back to stock, I like nvflash, but there are easier ways.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861950
Force closing is a known issue that can be easily fixed by repartitioning your internal sd card to the right specs. It has nothing to do with your newly flashed rom.
What you need to do is back up all your data on the sdcard and then go into clockworkmod advance and repartition to 2048/0.
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To be honest, your original post tells me the gtab isn't for you. I say a mainstream device like the ipad is more for you. Here is why. In order to use the gtab, you need to do the following things.
(1) Install clockworkmod.
(2) Use clockworkmod to repartition to fix the force closing issue.
(3) Use clockworkmod to flash a new rom.
And you're done. The entire process takes about 10 minutes at most.
Again, steps 1-3 should take you 10 minutes at most and the device is ready for use. If you find yourself frustrated by one of these steps or that you're spending more than 20 minutes, then the gtab is not for you and you need to get a mainstream device.
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Again, steps 1-3 should take you 10 minutes at most and the device is ready for use. If you find yourself frustrated by one of these steps or that you're spending more than 20 minutes, then the gtab is not for you and you need to get a mainstream device.
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This recommendation is of course assuming you have no determination whatsoever, and are incapable of learning anything new.
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This recommendation is of course assuming you have no determination whatsoever, and are incapable of learning anything new.
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Look, for most people this device is a toy. I use it at work, and I suspect most people don't do this. Let's admit it. Modding a device isn't for everybody.
I went into modding the gtab as a total android newbie. And yet it took me all of 15 minutes to figure out how to install clockworkmod, repartition, and flash a custom rom. Then a week after I flashed a custom kernel.
You just can't ask everybody to go through the headache of modding a device if they have neither the will nor the time.
I said 15 minutes because that was my first time ever modding an android device. After that first time, it took me about 5 minutes to do my second device.
It's a simple process to go through. If a person gets stuck on any of those 3 steps, then I think it's best that they get a mainstream device. The gtab just isn't for everybody.
HeadRusch1,
I think you can handle modding the gTab. If you understand how a file system works, can extract a zip, and have already flashed a custom ROM then your about 90% of the way to a smooth running gTab. As mentioned above, you simply missed one step.
I understand the "10 minutes or forget it" argument, however I think it's wildly inaccurate when gauging a new user's potential competency with the gTab. If you find yourself frustrated then go read some more, search for a solution, or ask a question. It should take a long time to get comfortable modifying Android devices, there are tons of loosely documented best practices, but don't bail early because it's hard.
PS.
This assumes your looking for a device to tinker with. Goodintentions is right for users who are looking for iPad equivalent. I just assume that users looking for a cheap iPad rarely make it as far as XDA. And if they have, then it's a good opportunity to encourage further exploration.
The reason I gave the 20 minutes advice is because I've seen too many people buying the gtab thinking they got an ipad. The gtab isn't mainstream at all even though it's outsold a lot of the mainstream devices out there (ahem xoom) by several orders of magnitude. Customer support for the gtab is almost non-existent. And don't hold your breath for updates from viewsonic.
I absolutely love my gtab. I am currently running vegan ginger OC to 1.2ghz. The speed on my gtab is absolutely stunning. There's no jerking at all. My touchscreen is incredibly sensitive. Viewing angle has never bothered me. I love the full size usb where I can just put a memory stick in there just like my laptop. The autocad app is extremely helpful for me. In fact, it's been a whole week since I turned on my laptop.
That said, again, this device is not mainstream. Meaning it's not for most people. I am absolutely convinced that most people would be better off with something like the ipad or transformer.
Based on my experience, there are two types of people in the world of gadgets. (1) Those who sees a problem and see the end of the world and (2) those who sees a problem and try to get around it.
An example of #1 is my friend Sarah. She wanted to use my gtab to get a feel for it. She said the touchscreen bothered her and that she was more comfortable with a laptop touchpad more. And then she said "I don't know, I think I'll be better off with an ipad." LOL. Boy is she going to be so surprised to find out the ipad also uses the touchscreen rather than an touchpad.
Anyway, another example is one of my colleagues. After I told him the autocad app doesn't work with 3-D view yet, he acted like it was the end of the world. Me, I just use the side, top, and front views in my demos. Works just fine for me.
Anyway, I'm rambling now. The point is my experiences tell me most people are better off with something like an ipad or transformer. Since those devices are mainstream, people can't say "of course you can't do this, you can't do that". With the gtab, since it is not mainstream, the smallest inconvenience means the end of the world.
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I did one flash...to TNT version 4xx, and I loved it...but I'm finding I'm getting lots of Google Framework errors and generally just kind of want to start from scratch, over again.....go back to the latest version of the official viewsonic roms.
Sadly I didn't use clockwork or anything so I think my original files are history
I know there are lots of threads, and I tried to follow one about snagging a rom and moving it to the Root and all it does is re-install TNT I think I am "not getting something".
Can someone walk me through this....
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Plug the gtablet into the computer.
Mount it for file transfer when prompted.
Check for an "update.zip" file at the root of the SD card (That's the tablet's 16gb internal memory). Delete it using your computer. That was causing TNT to be reloaded.
Here's the link to the original 3588 version they shipped with: http://tapntap.http.internapcdn.net/tapntap/viewsonic/update-smb_a1002-3588-user.zip Save it to your computer. Rename it "update.zip". Copy it to the root of the gtablet SD. Shut off the tablet. Unplug the USB cord. Restart with power & vol +
It should update.
If anyone notices a mistake, feel free to correct me. I've only flashed from stock 3588 to Vegan Ginger. So a whole 1x.
For what its worth, I tinkered and now I'm good.
Got NVFLASH working, went back to stock. Then went to Clockwork, then went to Vegan 5.1.1, then to CM7, now back to Vegan. I've found some apps that work and I'm liking it more. For the record, I own an Ipad2 as well.
Now, to those who chose to comment: You guys need to understand that many of those links are drowning in "extra information", and that is fine if you don't mind clicking hyperlink to hyperlink to do some trial and error, but now with multiple install path choices and whatnot, it gets confusing and it also means you have some time. I asked for someone, possibly someone in my shoes who has been down the path, to walk me through the steps.
Some of you did, some of you projected some assumptions with the underlying message of "RTFM".
This, too, was my first dip into the Android pool. Thanks for the help.
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I'm getting lots of Google Framework errors and generally just kind of want to start from scratch, over again.....go back to the latest version of the official viewsonic roms.
Sadly I didn't use clockwork or anything...
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I had that issue and didn't have clockwork.
Solution:
1: install clockwork
2: boot into clockwork, and select 'fix permissions'.
3: reboot, tablet fixed
I have been overloaded with so much information here on XDA, I'm having a huge issue being able to follow the tons and tons of steps I've seen in the forums.
The issue I am having,
Pressing the the camera and power buttons don't bring up fastboot options
it only brings a screen with a list of tests
If I hold down the Vol.Down&power buttons, it boots with:
"DT is in FASTBOOT_MODE"
From here my Device Manager (Win 7) shows:
ADB Interface-
Android Sooner Single ADB Interface
I've tried to type in the commands on CMD
I get nowhere after typing in the Vendor ID: Expample:0x413c?
says not found or something like wrong command
I am at worlds end, I don't want to give up trying to flash a new rom on here.
Again I seriously am lost and I can't say I haven't Searched because I have!
PLEASE HELP!!!!
My take on modding the Streak is here and a howto on using Streakmod recovery.
It sounds like the Streak has been put into native engineering mode. Does your screen look similar to the following video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vbl8oI5CQts
Thank you, I will read up on your links here. I hit the thanks too.
BTW I have some pictures of what I am seeing and hopefully the link will assist me greatly.
Does it matter that the Dell Streak is an Engineering Model? lol sorry if I didn't mention this before...Just found out.
It makes a huge difference. Read this thread. The TL;DR version: before bricking his unit, the user rooted the phone but could not install any ROMs.
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Thank you, I will read up on your links here. I hit the thanks too.
BTW I have some pictures of what I am seeing and hopefully the link will assist me greatly.
Does it matter that the Dell Streak is an Engineering Model? lol sorry if I didn't mention this before...Just found out.
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Engineering models are in general not compatable with retail roms. If it stopped booting it might be a full brick now.
Which would be rather tragic. While I know I wouldn't be able to update an Engineering sample, I wouldn't want to anyway. I'd love to have one simply because they're scarce.
If it wasnt for the fact it was bricked and the rom nuked I would have asked for details of the pre-installed rom as eng streaks are exceedingly rare in working condition now seeing as the streak is (in phone years) very old.
Unless he finds a magic way to make it boot again it's likely completely worthless now. The amount of work to find out why it differs from retails streaks and porting a rom over would be much greater then buying another streak/phone
Well damn, I'm glad that I still have it but I Never said it was bricked.
Actually,
It is fully functional with everything original from the the engineering desk with all the Dev apps!!!!
Here's the link to the pictures I took today, disregard the date and time on the main screen of the dell streak as it is wrong.
http://s75.photobucket.com/albums/i306/DJLACES/?action=view¤t=2011-10-09_16-50-58_616.jpg
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i306/DJLACES/2011-10-09_16-46-47_791.jpg
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i306/DJLACES/2011-10-10_01-28-58_487.jpg
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i306/DJLACES/2011-10-10_01-29-38_170.jpg
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i306/DJLACES/2011-10-10_01-30-19_805.jpg
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i306/DJLACES/2011-10-10_01-38-55_829.jpg
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i306/DJLACES/2011-10-10_01-40-58_766.jpg
Seems I am going to be helping you guys instead lol
It's all good, XDA has been great in providing so much help with nothing back from me, so whatever I can do, let me know!
I've accidently assisted in helping brick a few eng s5's before trying to flash a retail rom on them.
Good thing you didnt go though with (or at least get far enough) bricking it
Would you be willing to dump the rom? While you cant run any custom rec on it, you could use an older root tool (or newer one if it works) and root and manually dump it.
Just like previously stated working eng s5's are really rare.
I dont recall if i have that rom, I will check later today
Tears...
oh well, I was really hoping on gutting it inside out.
Don't mind dumping the rom but there has to be some way to push the file to the device and have it install automatically because there are issues with the D.S.
I'm sure you know this but this device is not a stable model, it's really sensitive and I wouldn't be surprised if it had split personalities
There are Errors!
We're talking- app errors and os errors. I got the streak like this and this is why I wanted to flash it.
I've tried installing apk's to the device and I get an error "No activity found to handle intent"?
This is on every file I try too open using the file explorer.
Either way let me know and we'll see what happens...
Wouldnt be surprised if the rom was feature incomplete. It may very well not have a complete set of frameworks/stuff since it's not ment for general use.
Does sound like the situation here....
Wonder if there's a way to even implement a fix or patch to address that issue...
If it was true it would require working on the code, which is what happened towards a release rom.
As an aside I checked and I do not have this rom either. Unless you're willing to spend years working on getting your eng s5 to work it's a waste of time.
As the retail streaks arnt even fully cracked when it comes building it from source, then multiply that by the fact eng ones are different and noone else owns one, much less would be willing to port a rom to it.
There might possibly be a simplier explanition in the rom, but without all the details it's somewhat hard to call
Like I said before, if you explain to me how to do a dump then I'm sure we can find out but I'm in no way savvy to software coding/writing...I wonder if a call to them would help? lol (if only it was that easy)
You will first need to root your device, i would recommend using one designed for 1.5/1.6 like universal androot or something for that era
slight problem, did you notice the apps in the link?
there's no Market app, I also mentioned that I get errors when trying to install from sd....
Unless there is someway to cmd or adb into it and manually push it then I'm SOL
Well they wouldnt be available on the market anyway, you would have to sideload it manually even on a normal functioning device.
if you have adb set up it's: 'adb install <path to apk>'.
Thanks for the info but unless you can spell it out for me, adb is my weekness.
I tried to look up ways to put that command in adb and have gotten no where. I'm putting this device up for sale...I'll see if it sells.
Well. My curiousty led to a hard-bricked phone
It's definetly official. I am not going to install any more custom roms after this. To make my story breif. I aquired a motorola atrix 2 phone, and had read it could accomdate a custom rom, so I used a one click root method program and the program said it had done its job. I booted into the recovery and installed the rom, which ended in an infinite reboot. Great, so I read more on how to revert back to firmware using rsd lite. I did this, but the battery was dead. so I went out and purchased anther battery, attempted the restore, phone restart, then BOOM. it stayed black and now it wont come on. wtf.
Can any please recommend the proper cable I have to order to get the phone back working>?
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Well. My curiousty led to a hard-bricked phone
It's definetly official. I am not going to install any more custom roms after this. To make my story breif. I aquired a motorola atrix 2 phone, and had read it could accomdate a custom rom, so I used a one click root method program and the program said it had done its job. I booted into the recovery and installed the rom, which ended in an infinite reboot. Great, so I read more on how to revert back to firmware using rsd lite. I did this, but the battery was dead. so I went out and purchased anther battery, attempted the restore, phone restart, then BOOM. it stayed black and now it wont come on. wtf.
Can any please recommend the proper cable I have to order to get the phone back working>?
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Did you flashed rom with stock recovery?
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Did you flashed rom with stock recovery?
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Yes, I tried to. Unless i acidentally downloaded the wrong file.
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Yes, I tried to. Unless i acidentally downloaded the wrong file.
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You should flash roms with custom recoveries that built for your device like clockworkmod or twrp recovery.
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You should flash roms with custom recoveries that built for your device like clockworkmod or twrp recovery.
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Yes, I am aware of that. The problem is now my phone is hard bricked and it wont turn on at all, not even to display an error message.
How can I fix this? whats that special cable That i need?
I would love to help you but I don't have the device and I think you should ask to your device's q/a forum. It will more helpful for you.
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Sunaj1 said:
Well. My curiousty led to a hard-bricked phone
It's definetly official. I am not going to install any more custom roms after this. To make my story breif. I aquired a motorola atrix 2 phone, and had read it could accomdate a custom rom, so I used a one click root method program and the program said it had done its job. I booted into the recovery and installed the rom, which ended in an infinite reboot. Great, so I read more on how to revert back to firmware using rsd lite. I did this, but the battery was dead. so I went out and purchased anther battery, attempted the restore, phone restart, then BOOM. it stayed black and now it wont come on. wtf.
Can any please recommend the proper cable I have to order to get the phone back working>?
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Hi, I guess you can use THIS LINK to try and fix your problem. Thank you for consulting the forums, and have a nice day.
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Hi, I guess you can use THIS LINK to try and fix your problem. Thank you for consulting the forums, and have a nice day.
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Thank you. But an experienced repair guy said my phone wasn't responding to neither the USB jtag or the fast boot. So my phone is dead forever? Should I start digging its grave?
Sure sounds this way, and you shouldn't be doing JTAG through the USB port anyway unless your phone is something special I've never heard of
But in truth rooting your phone won't damage it, it just gives someone the opportunity to do so. I'm a firm believer in rooting all androids so long as they read and understand what they are doing, its very hard to brick a phone if you know what you're doing
So although this phone may be dead forever (unless you find someone who for sure knows the proper way to JTAG it) then still consider rooting your next one, just be sure to completely understand what's going on, and try to stay away from one click roots, its hard to learn anything from this
Best of luck on your next phone
*side note, if you still have warranty and your phone is completely unresponsive chances are you will get your warranty exchange, just play dumb and say "I was playing angry birds and it just froze, now it won't turn on"
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I wish I had warranty on this thing. I got it second hand from craigslist. However i've managed to acquire an HTC inspire 4G, what an upgrade from a motorola cliq xt! I would love to install jelly bean on this thing but after messing up the Atrix 2 i'm scared I will F*ck this one up too. I can never find clear and concise instructions on the internet. Every web page I visit, it seems to be someones personal way of doing it. Steps not mentioned, or instructions written for intermediate users. For example, Every video or piece of instruction i've watched on youtube regarding booting into the fast boot on the atrix 2, said something about holding volume up and power button upon booting and I would see something on the top of the screen. However that did not work, First I had to use the volume down and power button, then I would get to this fastboot screen where those recovery options werent available, from there I had to hold both volume buttons down and press the power button twice which would bring me to the recovery options screen. thats just one example, and even then for some reasons I didn't have all the recovery options the instructions spoke of... for example. Very annoying and frustrating. On a side note, is there anyone on this site who lives in the US that can unbrick my atrix 2? The guy who repair phones I took it to said theres a device for 250.00 bucks he's waiting to get that can unbrick any device. However he doesnt have the funds and had gotten laid off work. I am just having a hard time believing a simple soft user error could permanently damage my device forever and that as sophiscated as our technology has gotten there's absolutely no way to revive it.
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Sure sounds this way, and you shouldn't be doing JTAG through the USB port anyway unless your phone is something special I've never heard of
But in truth rooting your phone won't damage it, it just gives someone the opportunity to do so. I'm a firm believer in rooting all androids so long as they read and understand what they are doing, its very hard to brick a phone if you know what you're doing
So although this phone may be dead forever (unless you find someone who for sure knows the proper way to JTAG it) then still consider rooting your next one, just be sure to completely understand what's going on, and try to stay away from one click roots, its hard to learn anything from this
Best of luck on your next phone
*side note, if you still have warranty and your phone is completely unresponsive chances are you will get your warranty exchange, just play dumb and say "I was playing angry birds and it just froze, now it won't turn on"
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I can't attest to the videos you saw, but for most androids this is the best site with the most info, I only suggest being sure how to root before you do it, and to understand how the method works as well. When your not understanding this is when bricks happen.
I know it can be lots of reading and lots of questions but in the long run its worth the time
As for the JTAG equipment there are many who have it and you can easily spend less than 250 on getting the proper stuff.
Every logicboard is different so maybe this machine he speaks of has a wide variety of cables that come with it, but he's still paying too much
Anyway, most people seem to charge 50$ or so to JTAG it back, if that's more than the phone is worth to you just sell it on eBay for parts
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demkantor said:
I can't attest to the videos you saw, but for most androids this is the best site with the most info, I only suggest being sure how to root before you do it, and to understand how the method works as well. When your not understanding this is when bricks happen.
I know it can be lots of reading and lots of questions but in the long run its worth the time
As for the JTAG equipment there are many who have it and you can easily spend less than 250 on getting the proper stuff.
Every logicboard is different so maybe this machine he speaks of has a wide variety of cables that come with it, but he's still paying too much
Anyway, most people seem to charge 50$ or so to JTAG it back, if that's more than the phone is worth to you just sell it on eBay for parts
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Can you link me to clear and concise instructions on how to upgrade my 2.3.7 ( i think) to jellybean on an htc inspire 4g? and is there anyone here who can fix my phone that you know of?
HERE IS YOUR PHONES FORUM
you will find links to all the guides you need here, always read the stickies in each section, this tends to have the important info you need
then anything your not sure about should be asked in the proper place within this forum for the best answers
example, question on how to root should be asked in the how to root thread for best chance of a good answer, question on how to flash a new radio should be asked in a thread pertaining to this
im sorry but i dont know enough about your phone specificly to help further but hopefully the members in your device specific forum will
best of luck!
First, I apologize if this ins't the right area but it seems like a General question.
I recently bought a Kindle Fire HDX 7" and have had it about a week now. With all the Amazon Bloat and lack of Google apps I need more out of it. I am not a beginner with flashing roms and such, my HTC One is Rooted, CyanogenModed, and has a boot loader, anyways...
I have spent the last couple days reading up on the ways to do it on the HDX 7 and heard many warnings and bricks of this device, but some of the posts are a little bit older. I can't really tell which method of Rooting/Flashing is the safest out of all the different ones. My current OS version is 13.3.2.1. Using the Safestrap looks pretty easy and from what I understand is that even if you do brick it you can recover the original?
My question is... Is it any safer to flash a Rom lately (due to the updating problems?), and how safe is just rooting it for the time being? Also, what method/tools would you suggest to use? I don't like the FireOS and would like to get it close the a standard Android and/or CyanogenMod.
Thanks for your time.
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Eclipsys said:
First, I apologize if this ins't the right area but it seems like a General question.
I recently bought a Kindle Fire HDX 7" and have had it about a week now. With all the Amazon Bloat and lack of Google apps I need more out of it. I am not a beginner with flashing roms and such, my HTC One is Rooted, CyanogenModed, and has a boot loader, anyways...
I have spent the last couple days reading up on the ways to do it on the HDX 7 and heard many warnings and bricks of this device, but some of the posts are a little bit older. I can't really tell which method of Rooting/Flashing is the safest out of all the different ones. My current OS version is 13.3.2.1. Using the Safestrap looks pretty easy and from what I understand is that even if you do brick it you can recover the original?
My question is... Is it any safer to flash a Rom lately (due to the updating problems?), and how safe is just rooting it for the time being? Also, what method/tools would you suggest to use? I don't like the FireOS and would like to get it close the a standard Android and/or CyanogenMod.
Thanks for your time.
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actually you came just in time and have the right firmware and place go to the development section and start reading we now have a brand new recovery that bypasses the security on our bootloader. I would advise reading reading these threads thoroughly. And your particular software is rootable with the existing utilities we have in the development section also. There has been a lot of development very recent keep in mind they are first version may be buggy but the utility .94 can get you rooted and safe from updates until you can do more research. And get your new recovery in place.
Thanks, by what you said I am guessing the internal workings haven't been figured out quite yet. I will head over to the development boards and see if I can find. Sadly I updated to FireOS 4.5 not knowing that there wasn't software to to roll back for versions above 1X but read that I can call Amazon and have it rolled back so no worries.
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Eclipsys said:
Thanks, by what you said I am guessing the internal workings haven't been figured out quite yet. I will head over to the development boards and see if I can find. Sadly I updated to FireOS 4.5 not knowing that there wasn't software to to roll back for versions above 1X but read that I can call Amazon and have it rolled back so no worries.
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they have shut that opportunity down I believe it was probably getting abused. And I believe they were only able to roll back from 4. 1. 1 from now on
jimyv said:
they have shut that opportunity down I believe it was probably getting abused. And I believe they were only able to roll back from 4. 1. 1 from now on
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I actually just got it rolled back, I read that people saying it doesn't happen anymore, but the very nice tech lady down graded me from 4.5.1 to 13.3.2.7. She stayed on the phone until it was completly reset. =) Now I should be able to root it easily with towelroot.
I was being pretty damn charming to her though, lol
I'm sure they don't want to and won't do it most of the time, but I is still 100% possible on their end, it's just wether they want to or not. I had a pretty decent story too, not just 'its slow and buggy'
Eclipsys said:
I actually just got it rolled back, I read that people saying it doesn't happen anymore, but the very nice tech lady down graded me from 4.5.1 to 13.3.2.7. She stayed on the phone until it was completly reset. =) Now I should be able to root it easily with towelroot.
I was being pretty damn charming to her though, lol
I'm sure they don't want to and won't do it most of the time, but I is still 100% possible on their end, it's just wether they want to or not. I had a pretty decent story too, not just 'its slow and buggy'
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after rolling back a couple of them it helps if you say that it was on version 3 then you updated to the latest one then make up some plausable combination of symptoms for example the one i went with is that my device restarts alone every 20 minutes or so and almost no apps work and then proceed to say that you were happy with how it was before it was updated
EDIT:also to note that i have yet to have them refuse me a single time through chat
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Davengerr said:
after rolling back a couple of them it helps if you say that it was on version 3 then you updated to the latest one then make up some plausable combination of symptoms for example the one i went with is that my device restarts alone every 20 minutes or so and almost no apps work and then proceed to say that you were happy with how it was before it was updated
EDIT:also to note that i have yet to have them refuse me a single time through chat
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I have just been reading about several people that have been rejected and why. There is a rumor that they gave it to their developers only and their technicians will go through your device logs and decide whether or not it is appropriate. Again rumor. I do not need roll back at least so far I have stuck with the old software all year...I just hate having to mess with trying to keep the OTA blocked. I just want them to take me off the ota push servers.