What I miss about my original EVO after 2 days with the EVO 3d...
Apps:
-Full HDMI
-Shoot Me
-Pic Me
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Accessories:
--HDMI connection to my TV
-Extended batteries and charger
I miss not hitting the power button accidentally all the time. Rarely happened on the Evo 4G, but I seem to keep hitting it accidentally on the 3D.
I miss...
1. My ROOT!!!!
2. My Kickstand
3. My 8MP CAMERA!!!
4. My DEDICATED HDMI port
titanium backup..
Thaxx said:
I miss...
1. My ROOT!!!!
2. My Kickstand
3. My 8MP CAMERA!!!
4. My DEDICATED HDMI port
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the 5mp cameras on the samsung devices blow away the OG Evo's 8MP, i assume its all in the quality of the harware and i think HTC made the right choice.. 8MP only means the picture is bigger in size, doesn't mean the quality is better.
BUT, i'm still waiting UPS to deliver my phone...
i dont miss anythign yet.. its been like 5 hours..i NEVER used the kickstand
magicalan said:
i dont miss anythign yet.. its been like 5 hours..i NEVER used the kickstand
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it wasnt that i never used the kickstand in landscap mode on a desk but i would always put my fingers in it and hold the phone that way... i used to have a wrist lanyard on my old messenger and i did the same thing with that...
Kilmar said:
I miss not hitting the power button accidentally all the time. Rarely happened on the Evo 4G, but I seem to keep hitting it accidentally on the 3D.
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+1 .. this new power button is too touchy.. and I have a feeling those camera buttons will annoy me as well.. oh well still like it better now can't wait for some unlocked boot & root & CM7...
I miss threads that are in the right section.
Seriously though, I only miss the micro-HDMI port, since I already have a 25' cable that I have wrapped around my living room.
I miss the kickstand kind of. I used it as a clock at night now I can't because when it's charging it won't work with the kickstand case.
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nothing right now, still have my evo. Envy trolling
one of these days
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I miss the kickstand kind of. I used it as a clock at night now I can't because when it's charging it won't work with the kickstand case.
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try flipping it around. i hate the cable but at least i have my clock.
Absolutely nothing
Was running Linpack scores on the 3D and was hitting consistantly about 124-130 with peaks above 230.....i never used the kickstand, this thing has DLNA so it can wirelessly stream to ur HD TV if you have the right "internet connectable" tv or boxee/dvr-pvr/set-top/roku so don't miss the hdmi....(saying that however no real-hdmi type app so, ahh....then again when was that ever practical?), I agree with the 8MP vs 5MP, the 5 on the nexus s 4g and epic 4g look way better than the 8 mp on the evo4g, the compression level of those phones camera's are way less than on the original evo, I took pics with EVO4g and with the other two phones and compared all three after copying the images from the phones to the computer, and the new evo's camera's are way better than the EVO4G camera (not to mention the little feature of well 3d recording/snapshots.) ... , front facing camera's about the same, free ram off the jump was like 600 mb after running several apps, the 1.2 dual core is so snappy, I honestly have no desire to root with the exception of curiosity of what this device is going to bring to our every day lives, way to go HTC i literally have an EVO4g, an epic 4g, a nexus s4g, an evo3d, a lg quantum, and an htc thunderbolt in the room with me and nothing has even remotely came close to the abilities of this device so far and its only been like 10 hours. Battery life seems to be about onpar with the evo's original battery, but thats expected. Have had the evo4g since launch day and the thunderbolt since launch day so im used to it, will buy an extended life battery when they are realeased. Oh and if you buy an otterbox defender case, the powerbutton doesn't accidently get hit, i was doing it alot too before I decided to buy one of those cases mainly because the back camera's are raised above the rest of the back of the phone and seems to be a glass cover figured if it was dropped it be over, so just saying. sense 3.0 is amazing.... I have no problems retiring the EVO 4G for good and sticking with my Evo3d/Thunderbolt combo!
Get this phone now!!!!
Miss the wider screen.
I do miss my root but that's about it. This thing is a beast. Root won't be long.
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I miss root a lot,but this phone is awesome!I love the slimmer screen.
Mod please move to "General"
I didn't even use the hdmi port,I just noticed the 3d doesn't have it lol.that sucks but oh well.And the kickstand was cool the little bit I used it.I love the way this one fits in my hand so much better too.
I miss the arrow keys on the keyboard....*signs*
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I didn't even use the hdmi port,I just noticed the 3d doesn't have it lol.that sucks but oh well.And the kickstand was cool the little bit I used it.I love the way this one fits in my hand so much better too.
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If I'm not mistaken I saw a video and read somewhere that the hdmi is provided through the micro usb. Some new technology on the 3vo that combines both.
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How is everyone liking their new phone? Is it everything its cracked up to be? Also how is the 3d function? I'm very curious. I get mine from best buy Friday and I can't wait....I'm jealous of all you early birds
the 3d Photo Feature is actually quite decent, much better than the Nintendo 3ds by far.
4g connects extremely fast.
Mind you the screen isn't wider but it is slightly loner than the EVO, the phone fits in the palm of your hand with ease.
camera button and 2d/3d switch is a great feature.
Very solid build, the battery door covers the entire rear of the phone.
Music beta on 4g connects and streams very nicely, haven't tried 3g yet because im still uploading my music to it's servers.
Overall im very impressed SO far
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the 3d Photo Feature is actually quite decent, much better than the Nintendo 3ds by far.
4g connects extremely fast.
Mind you the screen isn't wider but it is slightly loner than the EVO, the phone fits in the palm of your hand with ease.
camera button and 2d/3d switch is a great feature.
Very solid build, the battery door covers the entire rear of the phone.
Music beta on 4g connects and streams very nicely, haven't tried 3g yet because im still uploading my music to it's servers.
Overall im very impressed SO far
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i assume this is all while pluged in? i know this is to soon to ask but battery?
actually battery life from what i have seen is actually really good, i turned it on at about 40-50% i didnt check how much it was charged it is charging now, my friends at sprin has been off the charger for like 6hrs and he is at 70%.
but as we all know each user experience is different
i love sense 3.0...its AMAZING. i feel in control of EVERYTHING!
*Cries*
How did so many people get it early! gahhhh
...friday can't come soon enough!
UPS here delivers like at 8:30 at night so while delivery is today for me, it's pretty much tomorrow anyway....lol fail.
I wish I could tell you how it is!
I decided to stick with my local and trusted Sprint store figuring a day or 2 won't hurt...it hurts...
I'm glad to see its going well for those of you who got the jump on us though. Keep us posted on early impressions...
You wanna know how sad I really am lol? Since I have to wait until Friday to get my phone, I went to bb to buy an evo 3d case to feel closer, but they wouldn't sell me 1 lol
I came from a launch date EVO 4G. I now have the younger, hotter faster sister.
3D is way better than I expected. Make sure you compose so foreground, subject and background elements are in the frame. My eyes have no problem adjusting, but of course, YMMV.
Fast, fast fast. Even sense. Which I will still dump for ADW launcher ex. Just because it fits my workflow.
Annoying that the charge port is on the side now instead of the bottom. Looks like it was a design compromise to get a larger battery on the bottom half of the phone.
Any evaluation of battery life can only be taken after at least a week of use.
Battery cover seems harder to remove because of the camera shutter button. Someone has already mentioned it.
Sprint just made me stay with them until Verizon gets an equivalent.
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You wanna know how sad I really am lol? Since I have to wait until Friday to get my phone, I went to bb to buy an evo 3d case to feel closer, but they wouldn't sell me 1 lol
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Sadly, I had the same experience. I should have ordered from Sprint but thought: HEY, I will have a couple of days to decide if I really want this phone. I should know better.
+1 Sweet little phone here
Ordered yesterday (Tues) a.m., Sprint free shipping next day and got it this morning.
Been playing non-stop for the past 4 hours. I honestly say I like the E3D "in general" better than my E4G.
In terms of physical attributes, the narrower frame has a better grip on hand, even it's a bit longer than the 4G. Voice quality is at least on par with the 4G (As I have custom ROM on the 4G, it is louder anyhow). Connection for BT, Wifi and 4G are faster to established.
The QhD screen takes a bit to get use to (Even in 2D mode). I had the same concern as the Nexus 4G came out as they seem a bit yellowish tint than the regular LCD screen. However browsing the net, watching movies and games it is more crisp on the eye.
The only gripe I have is the Micro usb port being on the right side, instead of the bottom. And of course, I have to re-train my hand to hold the phone as everytime the camera lens get smudge with finger prints...
Overall, I'll give it 9.5/10 rating. JMHO.
Well this is the thread I was looking for..so far so good then..ill take a 9.5 out of 10th..I think the charger on the side sucks as well especially if your using the kickstand case and viewing something..thanks for.the input guys
3D is better than I thought, after all the bad reviews. When installing Google earth, a 3D buildings layer is now available, but it isn't real 3D, just rendered like the PC version.
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Ordered yesterday (Tues) a.m., Sprint free shipping next day and got it this morning.
Been playing non-stop for the past 4 hours. I honestly say I like the E3D "in general" better than my E4G.
In terms of physical attributes, the narrower frame has a better grip on hand, even it's a bit longer than the 4G. Voice quality is at least on par with the 4G (As I have custom ROM on the 4G, it is louder anyhow). Connection for BT, Wifi and 4G are faster to established.
The QhD screen takes a bit to get use to (Even in 2D mode). I had the same concern as the Nexus 4G came out as they seem a bit yellowish tint than the regular LCD screen. However browsing the net, watching movies and games it is more crisp on the eye.
The only gripe I have is the Micro usb port being on the right side, instead of the bottom. And of course, I have to re-train my hand to hold the phone as everytime the camera lens get smudge with finger prints...
Overall, I'll give it 9.5/10 rating. JMHO.
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9.5!?!?!?! 9.5?!?!?!! From all the backlash of the people in the Evo 3D section on the negative reviews, I would think this phone would be a 10!!! FAILBOAT ACTIVATE!!!
Man I have a tough decision, I got this ns4g in my hand and I got the evo 3d in preorder.... I don't know if I should pull the trigger. The only thing that is keeping me from going to 3d heaven is the bootloader issue lol.
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Come on now you know a hack is coming. If guys can make my Nook Color run like unstoppable beast I can imagine what they can do with this beast. It got ranked as number 1 dual core in gpu and CPU category tegra 2 being the worst out of the 4 chips.
When I first witness the 3D, DAMN! FOR A MIN MY RIGHT EYE WAS HURTING ME! But I got use to it...
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When I first witness the 3D, DAMN! FOR A MIN MY RIGHT EYE WAS HURTING ME! But I got use to it...
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yeah im still adjusting my eyes but when i do. im completely blown away especially with some of the youtube 3d videos. as far as liking it? I LOVE it.
Even coming from a Evo, I can still tell a difference. So far the battery life is perfect for the way I use it. like everyone else, im frustrated with the port on the side I keep wanting to plug it into the bottom. in short Im happy with my purchase and will be saying bye bye to the evo today.
Can't believe I just realized theres no HDMI....
Anyways, quick review-
screen resolution great. Colors seem fine.
Battery life seems fine.
not diggin the usb on the side.
Power button WAY too easy to hit....In fact I just accidentally turned it off while typing this.
Screen noticeably smaller.
Battery more difficult to remove...its like I'm going to break the case when I remove it.
3D difficult to show others - they have to hold the phone.
So far? Meh. Definitely not the leap that was the OG EVO. If you have an OG EVO I would recommend waiting for the next leap. This phone is more like a dashing prince to the wise old king OG EVO.... but this prince will never be king, because something will be out soon that will leap both.
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Problem is what will be a bigger leap? Hardware wise it can't get any better, or can it?
Software I think will be the deciding factor in the near future.
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Can't believe I just realized theres no HDMI....
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Isnt the Micro usb port supposed to support HDMI out with a special cable?
I agree and ill add that I don't like the power button to be attached to the battery cover or the side switchfor 2d or 3d but overall i like it better than my EVO hardware wise its a beast!
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Isnt the Micro usb port supposed to support HDMI out with a special cable?
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Yes, an MHL adapter.
Yea I agree..I think the phone has the hardware to be great but the software isn't there yet..wish the low light performance of the camera was better..in good light it takes good photos ..we have all been spoiled by all the great devs here and i think they will improve all aspects of the phone when we achieve root..I like the screen BTW
got mine a few hours ago, Ill initially say biggest issue i see is the side port for the charger. other than that the feel is great imo and i think i might be able to deal with 3.0 sense until they get this kitten unlocked.
not blown out of the water but more like pushed out of the pool
I think that the phone has nothing really yet software wise to push it..i think it is very capable of doing things the og EVO couldn't do in terms of performance in graphics etc. And other things don't change..like the network..the phone can only go as fast as the network let's it
I like some feedback by former Epic owner with their experiences and comparison with the Evo3d vs the Epic. I'm thinking of pulling the trigger and getting the Evo3d today. I'm looking for honest feedback by former epic owners only and not fanboys.
I would also like to know former Epic owner opinions. I spent some time at the Sprint store, but I couldn't make up my mind. One thing I noticed was that the Epic's camera seemed better than the 2D camera on the EVO 3D.
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I would also like to know former Epic owner opinions. I spent some time at the Sprint store, but I couldn't make up my mind. One thing I noticed was that the Epic's camera seemed better than the 2D camera on the EVO 3D.
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I thing Samsung has on HTC is there camera, but I have been able to get some great pics 2d pics with the EVO's camera. With good light, it produces some great color.
I had the Evo running Fresh and Myn's for the longest time. Switched to the Epic just out of boredom. I loved it. I ran ACS SyndicatROM 1.1.0 - 1.1.1...
I made the switch for the faster processor. Ultimately hoping in the end... we could get a clean ROM and it being faster. I miss the keyboard a little. But I have my Epic sitting here chilling. I can go into more detail later... I have to go to work.
I'll bite. Sense 3.0 is amazing. My last experience with Sense was on the Hero and it sucked so I went with vanilla on the Moment. There is less lag with 3D vs the Epic. Good test is opening the application menu waiting for the icons to load. It's like less than a second on the 3D. You'll miss the camera but this is not horrible and 3D is pretty damn neat. The Epic screen does have that "wow" factor to it with blacks and color but after using the qHD screen and its level of detail you won't go back. 3D movie and YouTube watching is amazing. The well produced ones will actually pop out of the screen. The key to viewing is holding the phone at the right spot for your eyes. About 50% better battery life. No joke. The onscreen keyboard rocks. I hate swype's. HTC'S plus having a swype ability makes having a physical keyboard a mute point. The phone is also really solid. Not flimsy and flexible like the Epic. 4G takes a longer time to initialize. The Epic loads it a lot faster but the 3D's is a lot more consistent. ALSO, HTC'S power saver doesn't cripple your phone at low battery like the Epic. You can run it into the ground if you want.
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Well, so far I still have both until we get the within. After that I'm dumping the epic. The 3vo has been a really nice upgrade from the og evo in terms of speed. I just like the way sense incorporates all of the social apps in itself.
In terms of the epic versus 3vo in speed I would have to say that I can't really "feel"a huge jump, but that's probably mostly cause of sense being a huge chunky glob of software that has to be pushed. I'm sure if it were running on the epic it'd probably get bogged down cause the lack of ram.
The one thing you'll still miss is your bright screen and louder speaker. So far those are the only two real world things that are worth a regret if I left the epic entirely. I wouldn't even consider the keyboard a loss since I don't use it, but you might. I find the camera in 2d mode to still struggle in low light compared to the epic which doesn't struggle as bad.
There is still a lot of optimization to be done for alot if apps to run correctly to their full potential as well. Only time will really tell as dual core phones trickle out.
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I would never look back. Sold my Epic, couldn't be happier
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I just recently came to Sprint. Wife got an OG Evo, I got an NS4G. The NS4G's broken radio pissed me off and I took it back, got an Epic instead. I really liked the hardware on the Epic compared to my wife's Evo. The screen in particular, Super AMOLED is the bees knees. The one thing that I really hated though was the lackluster development community. Coming from a G1 and an HD2, I've always had a plethora of choices when it came to choosing a rom. Not the case with the Epic. I was jealous of my wife's Evo in that regard.
Originally, I was going to hold off for a SG2, mostly for the screen... but the more I thought about it, the more likely it seemed that the Evo was going to have more dev support, and ultimately went with that. I was reluctant to give up my beautiful screen, but I did.
A few days in now, and I can't put this damn phone down. I don't like the size of the 4.3 inch screen on the OG Evo, but the 16:9 screen on this is just perfect. It gives me plenty of real estate without the phone being as wide as my pocket. It's the perfectly sized screen for a phone, and I love it.
Sense 3 is neat. A little bloated, but there's a lot of cool **** in there. I look forward to devs picking it apart.
Other than that, the phone is fast as hell. The hardware is solid. The 3D is a little gimmicky, but it's still fun. The 2D camera is disappointing, that will be a downgrade from your Epic. I'm a photographer though, and usually have a plethora of camera's on hand when I'll need them. A cell phone camera, for me, is to catch spur the moment things. It would never be used as a camera in a scenario where I knew I'd need one before hand.
All in all, after being really leery to give up my phone, I'm really glad I did. This phone is great. Get it, you'll be glad you did.
keep ur epic until something better comes out..Epic camera is better..speaker is 10 times louder for streaming music and mp3 files..Epic starts much faster as well..I am switching back 2 my epic sometime next week...HTC 3d speaker is so damn low its horrible and embarrassing..keep ur epic
The epic speaker is MUCH louder, but the battery on the stock 3d is light years better than an epic and I was running SRF with Genocide kernel. My biggest gripe from making the jump is that the data speeds on both 3 and 4G are slower on the 3d. But for the faster day to day use, plus Sense, which IMHO is better than touchwiz, I think its a worthy upgrade especially considering that root is coming shortly and the optimized tons are gonna make this a beast
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The epic is a GREAT phone. I loved that phone. Sometimes i get homesick for the loud speaker and play with my wifes epic. There is no comparison between those two phones. the 3d has twice everything the epic has...memory, processor, bigger battery. the extra 50 for the 3d is money well spent. i am glad i got the 3d, don't regret it.
I had the Epic and in a phone shuffle gave it to my wife and I got the Evo 3D.
I think both phones have their ups and downs. The Epic has a beautiful screen and, if you turn it down the brightness, battery life is greatly increased. I also really miss the keyboard when getting into a "texting conversation" - for 1-2 texts the Swype keyboard is fine, but for hardcore texting, a real keyboard is better.
The phones weigh about the same to me (don't know actual weights) so that isn't an issue.
The capacitive keys on the Epic are fairly unresponsive and often require a few taps to register (the home, back, menu, search keys). That is an issue I have not seen on the E3D.
The Evo is noticeably faster yet the speed difference is not so remarkable that I would just throw away the Epic like yesterdays garbage.
I haven't compared an identical picture side by side from the cameras, but the E3D camera (2D mode) seems comparable.
The biggest difference is in the screens. AMOLED (Epic) is truly a beautiful piece of technology, but the E3D screen looks "sharper" and I would guess it has higher resolution and pixel density...again, don't know the actual numbers. But it is a visible difference.
One of the only other things that bothered me about the Epic was the power switch and USB port. They were both in bad locations and they should have swapped locations.
If given a choice I would probably go with the Evo 3D for the hardware bump and I actually like the 3D. It takes getting used to...kind of like those pictures you have to look at for a long time and a 3D image pops out...you have to almost "stare through" the picture to see the picture, but now I see 3D on it with no problem. Took a few hours of playing and looking to get used to it.
AMOLED screen was bright and nice at the beginning but with time, it got harder to read text on the screen. I don't miss it at all and I'll never switch back. Obviously, the speaker and camera are better on the epic. The 3d aspect of the phone is definitely not a gimmick. Sense is buttery smooth and well worth the switch alone.
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Epic has very slow development from sprint and Samsung. I used to own EVO then epic and now back to EVO 3d.
PS. Never going back to Samsung again.
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I like some feedback by former Epic owner with their experiences and comparison with the Evo3d vs the Epic. I'm thinking of pulling the trigger and getting the Evo3d today. I'm looking for honest feedback by former epic owners only and not fanboys.
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I'm from the Epic. I honestly miss Touchwiz and i can't stand sense. i do like the music widget on the lockscreen, but to use to widget, you have to be using sense launcher. I also miss flashing and theming stuff. Hopefully evo gets s-off soon, kinda turns me off all the way with HTC even thinking about locking it up. Tbh, as soon as sgs 2 comes for Sprint, im ebaying the 3vO for it.
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Ok boys, thanks for the great feedbacks. Well today I ended up getting the EVO3d. So far I only had it for a few hours and I already miss my epic speakers, screen and keyboard. But overall I'm very excited about my new toy.
Any updated thoughts from those of you who have switched?
Hey guys.
Some of you may know me from the Evo 3D section. Recently, my 3D's touchscreen started to fail on me (a known quality-control issue) and I evaluated my options on repairing it and came to the conclusion a new phone is a better investment.
I've been researching the living crap out of the Galaxy Nexus and the 4G LTE (The GS3 is waaaay outside my price point). It seems more and more likely that the 4G LTE is simply a better phone.
So now, this thread. Before I pull the trigger, I want the scoop on this phone from the only users I trust; XDA users. Tell me what you love about this phone, what you hate, what to watch out for, whether or not you regret it, anything. As much detail as possible, please
This phone will genuinely have to last me two years (buying it off contract). I need to know that I can count on this in the same way I was able to count on my HTC Hero (which I feel was more dependable than the Evo 3D).
Thanks guys. I look forward to possibly joining you in this forum in the future.
What's up man?! Go ahead and pull the trigger is what I say. I didn't consider it that huge of an upgrade personally but I figured id try it out for 14 days and return then try the GS3 then make my decision. I ended up keeping it and deciding to do so very quickly.Lol. Very 1st thing that got me was the thinness and how great it felt holding.....it felt really nice....and the screen is ike candy for your eyes. My experience with sense 4 and the speed made me question the need to root (blasphemy I know) but I did anyway. I love the camera software and the phone charges fast and really last....the sleeping is incredible. I live everything about it except the shiney black top....other than that in my opion its the best Evo ever and top phone now.
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After my first experience with the EVO 3D (3 lemons in under a month), I thought I'd never own an HTC phone again. I went as far as saying I'd never piss on an HTC phone if it was on fire. This phone is making me eat those words. I don't even know why I gave them another chance but I'm glad I did. I wanted a great screen, fast processor, and a relatively "future proofed" phone and this totally fit the bill. It was between this and the Gnex but with the connectivity problems, notoriously weak antennae and glacial charging I rolled the dice on the EVO.
I'm really digging the snappiness overall, running Nova launcher and MeanICS 0.5 ROM. The screen is gorgeous, especially coming from a Photon, and the camera is just about neck and neck with my 4S (work phone). I've been shooting with it for about a week and love love love the pictures it takes.
The only thing I don't like is the car dock has a really finicky usb connector and no sound comes through said connector making it a real bummer when I want to use the phone as an aux music source.
With ROM floodgates starting to open, I heartily endorse this phone to anyone who is in the market. Even stock with Nova launcher works really well, I'm not a fan of Sense but I will admit it was way better than what came stock in the Evo 3D.
Omg we need a Liquid Rom in here! I haven't ran something from you since the HREO CDMA days! Your Sense Rom was the best!
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I sold my preordered Evo for a pretty penny and bought a Galaxy Nexus for dirt cheap. While the Nexus was good, the battery made it just OK. It just wouldn't last. The screen was nice but put it next to the Evo and nice becomes wtf. The Evo comes with a microSD slot for my 64GB card (huge plus). The battery in the Evo lasts a whole day a whole night and in to the next afternoon. With heavy use, I mean playing with it constantly from games to web to calls it easily can last 12-15 hours. That right there sold me. I had the option for the GS3 as well. I was really thinking I would switch, considering I had the Epic and the Epic Touch. I.couldn't bring.myself.to return it. Too GREAT of a phone. Plus the kickstand is great. I watch a lot of Netflix while waiting for freight. There isn't a single con and a long list of pros. BUY IT!
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What's up man?! Go ahead and pull the trigger is what I say. I didn't consider it that huge of an upgrade personally but I figured id try it out for 14 days and return then try the GS3 then make my decision. I ended up keeping it and deciding to do so very quickly.Lol. Very 1st thing that got me was the thinness and how great it felt holding.....it felt really nice....and the screen is ike candy for your eyes. My experience with sense 4 and the speed made me question the need to root (blasphemy I know) but I did anyway. I love the camera software and the phone charges fast and really last....the sleeping is incredible. I live everything about it except the shiney black top....other than that in my opion its the best Evo ever and top phone now.
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So it feels solid in your eyes? If I grip my Evo 3D even slightly firmly, I can feel the plastic creak. How are you doing on battery life? I'm an extremely minimal user of my phone.
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Omg we need a Liquid Rom in here! I haven't ran something from you since the HREO CDMA days! Your Sense Rom was the best!
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Heh, I've been considering starting up a project like that again.
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I sold my preordered Evo for a pretty penny and bought a Galaxy Nexus for dirt cheap. While the Nexus was good, the battery made it just OK. It just wouldn't last. The screen was nice but put it next to the Evo and nice becomes wtf. The Evo comes with a microSD slot for my 64GB card (huge plus). The battery in the Evo lasts a whole day a whole night and in to the next afternoon. With heavy use, I mean playing with it constantly from games to web to calls it easily can last 12-15 hours. That right there sold me. I had the option for the GS3 as well. I was really thinking I would switch, considering I had the Epic and the Epic Touch. I.couldn't bring.myself.to return it. Too GREAT of a phone. Plus the kickstand is great. I watch a lot of Netflix while waiting for freight. There isn't a single con and a long list of pros. BUY IT!
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That's some very promising battery life, especially for my minimal use
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After my first experience with the EVO 3D (3 lemons in under a month), I thought I'd never own an HTC phone again. I went as far as saying I'd never piss on an HTC phone if it was on fire. This phone is making me eat those words. I don't even know why I gave them another chance but I'm glad I did. I wanted a great screen, fast processor, and a relatively "future proofed" phone and this totally fit the bill. It was between this and the Gnex but with the connectivity problems, notoriously weak antennae and glacial charging I rolled the dice on the EVO.
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Ah, someone who understands the build quality woes of the Evo 3D. In the short year I've owned it, the screen plate near the cap buttons has "sunk" down into the shell, the battery cover has become lose, the outer 'lining' is coming off, and the power button and volume buttons are almost hilariously mushy (never know if they're working).
I'm sorely searching for the build quality of HTC that I used to know, from the days of the Hero all the way back to the original Titan and Apache (those things were amazing). It seems you feel that they've recaptured this "Evo" namesake.
I'm really digging the snappiness overall, running Nova launcher and MeanICS 0.5 ROM. The screen is gorgeous, especially coming from a Photon, and the camera is just about neck and neck with my 4S (work phone). I've been shooting with it for about a week and love love love the pictures it takes.
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How's the screen at repelling fingerprints? I know that it's supposed to come with an oleo-phobic coating, but do you think it would be worth getting a screen protector?
Great phone; buy it! :good:
What's up liquid I think you should go ahead and get it there's nothing better at this point and to build quality is nothing like the evo 3d. My only issue is the lack of multitasking it reloads tabs almost..but I've heard that has been fixed on the hox...great device..makes the 3d look like a fat pig
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So it feels solid in your eyes? If I grip my Evo 3D even slightly firmly, I can feel the plastic creak. How are you doing on battery life? I'm an extremely minimal user of my phone.
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The quality is the best I ever felt......no plastic feel or creak like the 3d......When I first held it I was like WOW. I'm a heavy user when on station and I don't feel tethered to a plug.....it does very well but the way it sleeps is the best.....I can have 80 percent and go do 3 runs and several hrs later it still sits at 80......my 3D would have dropped by 20 lol
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I've been a happy owner of the 3D for the past year, but after flashing the Virgin Mobile FW and finding out from Sprint that I have a free upgrade, I'm picking up the 4G LTE on Monday. I just figure the time is right to make the jump since as of now there's no downgrade for the FW, no official ICS release, and WiMax is dead. Base on this thread, I'm in!
The phone is awesome even stock I have no complaints could maybe use a radio update but that's it seeing how these dye radios are new I find signal to be acceptable for myself. Love the camera and I have no problems removed some screens tho since 7 is over kill lol
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Just don't put it in your skinny jeans pocket and you'll be fine. Would love to see your work on my LTE.
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Also coming from the 3D, I decided to pull the trigger on this phone earlier this month.
Personal pros: Size, feel, battery life
Cons: Wifi/3G dropout, multitasking (primarily Sense reload)
I rooted immediately, switched to Apex Launcher, and tested a few custom ROMS.
Temp bricked it yesterday w/ the S-OFF method, and returned it to BB to swap out in hopes that it would fix the Wifi/3G dropouts. Wifi seems to be better, 3G dropouts still exist, so I'd imagine it'll be a radio/firmware fix in the future. I'd also imagine the aggressive and clumsy multitasking will also be resolved when source is released from HTC and we can get some custom kernels.
SG3 is released for the public on 7/1 @ BB, so I'll go back to play around w/ it a little bit before my 30 day window of opp. is closed. All in all, I'm leaning towards keeping the LTEvo due to the development community and overall feel of the phone.
Lastly, I was going to go right back and root after getting phone #2, but simply installing Apex over stock everything hasn't been bad. I think until source is released, I can deal with holding off on root. The apps I rely on work w/o root, FoxFi works w/o root (even though pointless w/ slow 3G data, but hey..), and honestly, until we can start overclocking, undervolting, etc., the only true benefit w/ root access is being able to F w/ the build.prop for GW purposes, density, and whatever. Not enough of a factor IMO to root just yet, though the ROMS available right now are promising!
Verdict: Go for the LTEvo. Enjoyed your work during the Hero days as well!
For the screen, the fingerprints have been less of an issue than my tbolt, but they are still there. I thought the screen really was "scratch proof" until I had it in a bag with my keys and I saw a little scratch right in the effing MIDDLE of the screen! Needless to say, I ordered a matte screen protector and will see if it kills the awesome-ness of how the screen looks and displays.
I honestly cannot agree more with what has already been said about this awesome phone. After coming from my tbolt with a rezound battery (i still use it to this day) and it's crappy battery life to this phone has totally restored my confidence in using smartphones. Instead of thinking "if i play this emulator or watch this video, I'll have to charge it again", I say "I will play this emulator or watch this video and not care because the battery WILL last". I know I sound crazy here, but the battery really is that good. In fact, it's that reason that I haven't rooted and put on a custom ROM because I'm afraid something will happen.
Performance wise, it is just plain sick. It runs the PSXEmulator tons smoother than my TBolt and sense is just awesome. I would consider rooting just for the dual-core mod where the second cpu is always running except for when the screen is off, but again, bye-bye insane battery life (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Physical feel of phone is sweet; the thinness is good and the material is nice; except for that bloody top back shiny cover that drives us OCD guys nuts with fingerprints :O But I did order a case because I'm afraid if I drop it, it will go bye-bye.
I researched heavily this phone and the galaxy nexus and from what I could tell, the nexus didn't have the same power as this phone and because of that, people complained that it ran slower than it should. Also the battery was only so-so.
I have yet to look back and do not regret the money I spent
firmbiz94 said:
What's up liquid I think you should go ahead and get it there's nothing better at this point and to build quality is nothing like the evo 3d. My only issue is the lack of multitasking it reloads tabs almost..but I've heard that has been fixed on the hox...great device..makes the 3d look like a fat pig
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I read that this was due to aggressive minfree values to keep Sense running smooth. Custom ROMs have already tweaked it, but I actually see this as a plus. I've always used extremely (read: ludicrous) aggressive minfree and OOM values, because I damn near never multitask, I only ever do one thing at a time.
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The quality is the best I ever felt......no plastic feel or creak like the 3d......When I first held it I was like WOW. I'm a heavy user when on station and I don't feel tethered to a plug.....it does very well but the way it sleeps is the best.....I can have 80 percent and go do 3 runs and several hrs later it still sits at 80......my 3D would have dropped by 20 lol
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That is very, VERY nice to hear. I look forward to that
NYG140 said:
I've been a happy owner of the 3D for the past year, but after flashing the Virgin Mobile FW and finding out from Sprint that I have a free upgrade, I'm picking up the 4G LTE on Monday. I just figure the time is right to make the jump since as of now there's no downgrade for the FW, no official ICS release, and WiMax is dead. Base on this thread, I'm in!
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Yuck, I'm sorry you had to go through the Virgin FW mess. I thankfully was late in finding out about it and hence managed to see all the problems that came with it before I flashed, so I skipped it. Glad to hear you're getting an upgrade!
ckoadiyn said:
The phone is awesome even stock I have no complaints could maybe use a radio update but that's it seeing how these dye radios are new I find signal to be acceptable for myself. Love the camera and I have no problems removed some screens tho since 7 is over kill lol
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Radio update? Are signal woes really a concern?
BrianBaker said:
Just don't put it in your skinny jeans pocket and you'll be fine. Would love to see your work on my LTE.
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Heh, no skinny jeans on this boy, don't worry. I might delve back into it again, we'll see.
pwrmedia said:
Also coming from the 3D, I decided to pull the trigger on this phone earlier this month.
Personal pros: Size, feel, battery life
Cons: Wifi/3G dropout, multitasking (primarily Sense reload)
I rooted immediately, switched to Apex Launcher, and tested a few custom ROMS.
Temp bricked it yesterday w/ the S-OFF method, and returned it to BB to swap out in hopes that it would fix the Wifi/3G dropouts. Wifi seems to be better, 3G dropouts still exist, so I'd imagine it'll be a radio/firmware fix in the future. I'd also imagine the aggressive and clumsy multitasking will also be resolved when source is released from HTC and we can get some custom kernels.
SG3 is released for the public on 7/1 @ BB, so I'll go back to play around w/ it a little bit before my 30 day window of opp. is closed. All in all, I'm leaning towards keeping the LTEvo due to the development community and overall feel of the phone.
Lastly, I was going to go right back and root after getting phone #2, but simply installing Apex over stock everything hasn't been bad. I think until source is released, I can deal with holding off on root. The apps I rely on work w/o root, FoxFi works w/o root (even though pointless w/ slow 3G data, but hey..), and honestly, until we can start overclocking, undervolting, etc., the only true benefit w/ root access is being able to F w/ the build.prop for GW purposes, density, and whatever. Not enough of a factor IMO to root just yet, though the ROMS available right now are promising!
Verdict: Go for the LTEvo. Enjoyed your work during the Hero days as well!
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It seems as though I might not need to root for a while either. I've actually not needed to tether in a long, long time with my 3D. Root was soley for performance desires. These connectivity issues are getting a it worrying though...
And thanks! I didn't realize my Hero ROM had such a reputation haha.
pogibry said:
For the screen, the fingerprints have been less of an issue than my tbolt, but they are still there. I thought the screen really was "scratch proof" until I had it in a bag with my keys and I saw a little scratch right in the effing MIDDLE of the screen! Needless to say, I ordered a matte screen protector and will see if it kills the awesome-ness of how the screen looks and displays.
I honestly cannot agree more with what has already been said about this awesome phone. After coming from my tbolt with a rezound battery (i still use it to this day) and it's crappy battery life to this phone has totally restored my confidence in using smartphones. Instead of thinking "if i play this emulator or watch this video, I'll have to charge it again", I say "I will play this emulator or watch this video and not care because the battery WILL last". I know I sound crazy here, but the battery really is that good. In fact, it's that reason that I haven't rooted and put on a custom ROM because I'm afraid something will happen.
Performance wise, it is just plain sick. It runs the PSXEmulator tons smoother than my TBolt and sense is just awesome. I would consider rooting just for the dual-core mod where the second cpu is always running except for when the screen is off, but again, bye-bye insane battery life (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Physical feel of phone is sweet; the thinness is good and the material is nice; except for that bloody top back shiny cover that drives us OCD guys nuts with fingerprints :O But I did order a case because I'm afraid if I drop it, it will go bye-bye.
I researched heavily this phone and the galaxy nexus and from what I could tell, the nexus didn't have the same power as this phone and because of that, people complained that it ran slower than it should. Also the battery was only so-so.
I have yet to look back and do not regret the money I spent
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It looks like the battery usage will be insane for me. All these use-cases appear to be with heavy usage and good battery life, so I can't wait to see what my mild usage will result in.
Thanks for the feedback guys, I'm loving reading all these experiences!
No signal is fine for me as I'm in a well covered area. I could be a tad stronger but that's about it.
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No signal is fine for me as I'm in a well covered area. I could be a tad stronger but that's about it.
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My 3D would always kill itself trying to find signal where I live. I'm hoping that won't be an issue with the LTE.
Amazon has some great prices on this phone in and out of contract.
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For the screen, the fingerprints have been less of an issue than my tbolt, but they are still there. I thought the screen really was "scratch proof" until I had it in a bag with my keys and I saw a little scratch right in the effing MIDDLE of the screen! Needless to say, I ordered a matte screen protector and will see if it kills the awesome-ness of how the screen looks and displays.
I honestly cannot agree more with what has already been said about this awesome phone. After coming from my tbolt with a rezound battery (i still use it to this day) and it's crappy battery life to this phone has totally restored my confidence in using smartphones. Instead of thinking "if i play this emulator or watch this video, I'll have to charge it again", I say "I will play this emulator or watch this video and not care because the battery WILL last". I know I sound crazy here, but the battery really is that good. In fact, it's that reason that I haven't rooted and put on a custom ROM because I'm afraid something will happen.
Performance wise, it is just plain sick. It runs the PSXEmulator tons smoother than my TBolt and sense is just awesome. I would consider rooting just for the dual-core mod where the second cpu is always running except for when the screen is off, but again, bye-bye insane battery life (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Physical feel of phone is sweet; the thinness is good and the material is nice; except for that bloody top back shiny cover that drives us OCD guys nuts with fingerprints :O But I did order a case because I'm afraid if I drop it, it will go bye-bye.
I researched heavily this phone and the galaxy nexus and from what I could tell, the nexus didn't have the same power as this phone and because of that, people complained that it ran slower than it should. Also the battery was only so-so.
I have yet to look back and do not regret the money I spent
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I'm running the nocturnal Rom and it has the dual core going but honestly I haven't noticed a difference. ....you should check it out.....it's been the smoothest for me so far
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I dont mind the killing of apps as much as I do the tabs in the web browser..sometimes esp. With online banking I run into issues..it happens pretty much instantly..I've adjusted my min free settings as well as flashed about every rom besides aosp and my phone still kills apps like that's its job..I would just like the option to adjust it or have it ignore my web browser as I'm pretty good about closing things out..buts that's my only issue and it will be fixed..the build is bar none and battery is sick..camera is on par with top cell phone cameras and the UI in the camera app is best in class..i never miss a shot ..it will be good to see u in here liquid..to defend against the trolls and fanboys LOL
HTC was kind enough to send me a DNA to test over this past weekend. I was coming most recently from the HTC Rezound and a Samsung Galaxy S3. Below are some of my thoughts/experiences with the device so far. It's only been a few days, but I'm in love with this device, and I won't be looking back at my S3.
Specs
Platform: Android™ 4.1 Jelly Bean with HTC Sense™ (also known as Sense 4+)
Processor: Qualcomm® APQ8064 Quad-core 1.5 GHz, MDM9615M
Memory: 16 GB, 2 GB RAM
Networks: CDMA: 800/1900MHz; UMTS/HSPA: 850/900/1900/2100MHz; GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900MHz; LTE 700 MHz (Band 13)
Camera with HTC ImageSense™: 8 MP main camera with auto focus, LED flash, BSI sensor, f/2.0 aperture, 28mm lens, 1080p HD video recording, 2.1 MP front-facing camera, Dedicated HTC ImageChip™
Display: 5-inch super LCD3, HD 1080p, Gorilla® Glass 2
Audio: Beats Audio™ built in
Battery: 2020 mAh LI-ION (embedded)
Dimensions (LxWxT): 141 x 70.5 x 9.73 mm
Weight: 140 g
Display
The display is absolutely stunning. At five inches, 1080p and 440 pixels per inch, you’ll be hard pressed to find anything that even begins to come close to this. This massive resolution begs for more rows in the stock Sense launcher--icon spacing is a bit more than I’d like, and is reminiscent of iOS on the iPad. They could easily have fit another row of icons here, but this isn't a big deal, and I'm already used to it.
The Auto Brightness setting works absolutely flawlessly, adjusting to the level of ambient lighting before the display is even turned on. This is a stark contrast from my Galaxy S3, which is often too dim, and frequently changes it’s brightness long after I’ve turned the screen on and began using the device.
Battery
At 2020 mAh, the battery seems a bit lacking for a 5” 1080p monster like the DROID DNA. Initially I was worried about its performance, but I've found it to be pretty respectable. Currently I'm at 42% battery left with 1d1h13m on the clock, Screen On for 1h33m, and Voice Calls for 30m. I'm guessing this is going to clock in right around 3 hours or so of Screen On time (with automatic brightness).
Build Quality/Design
The device feels exceptional. The material covering the back is slightly grippy, which adds a feeling of security when you hold the device in your hand. The Galaxy S3’s smooth finish is almost too slippery, and makes the device feel delicate and prone to dropping, though I am quite a fan of its curved shape. There isn’t a creak or groan to be found anywhere around the device, which is something I’ve become accustomed to with HTC devices in general.
The DROID DNA retains the three primary softkeys (that have become the standard since ICS) instead of on-screen buttons, though unlike the Samsung Galaxy S3, the Menu button is not included. That is somewhat annoying, as apps’ inclusion of the on-screen Menu button is inconsistent, and navigating to the phone’s setting menu requires a swipe of the top pulldown. But this is pretty nit-picky.
Radios
Upon opening the Navigation app, the GPS locks on instantaneously. This is a huge advantage over my Galaxy S3, which often takes literally minutes to acquire GPS signal and begin directing me on the road. Again, I'm used to good radios/GPS from HTC, my Rezound and Incredible were both flawless in this department as well.
In tough service areas (like basements or large buildings), the DNA outperformed my S3 every time. I held 3G signal in my gym (in a university basement) where the S3 dropped to 1x consistently.
Camera
The camera on this device is fantastic--if you're used to the HTC One X you'll know a lot of the features, but coming from the Rezound it feels like a massive improvement. It's still 8MP, but HTC's new sensors are amazing. The low-light photos are a huge improvement over my Rezound, and the S3 as well. You can take snapshots midway through recording video, and the continuous shooting mode works exceptionally well, offering a "best shot" option to automatically delete all the other pictures in the series if you only like one of them.
I've attached a few shots I've taken with the camera in low light settings. I'll come back and add more thoughts later, but this is just where I'm at initially with the device.
dang got ninja'ed since i was writing up something similar but since you beat me to it i concur with everything you said.
Thanks for your input guys... I've been waiting to hear a review from someone who has actually had a chance to put the phone to use. I'm glad the battery hasn't been an issue with either of you. :good:
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dang got ninja'ed since i was writing up something similar but since you beat me to it i concur with everything you said.
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Sorry treadwayj! I had this baby chambered and ready to go, I was dying to break my silence!
treadwayj said:
dang got ninja'ed since i was writing up something similar but since you beat me to it i concur with everything you said.
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Same with me, I had a work meeting and got the email from HTC with the go ahead. Went to start my post and saw this. Can't win them all but great write up.
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And yes the phone is one of the greatest from HTC....
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Bootloader locked? Lol I will most likely be jumping ship from my S3 to this phone, although the only thing that lets me down is only 16GB of storage but have easily gotten over it.
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I am drooling to get mine.
Another week before its in my hands is gonna be torture.
The Battery doesnt worry me much... coming from a T-Bolt, I'm used to charging regularly at home/work/car.
The 16GB with no SD slot is a bit of a worry.. My Tbolt has only 8GB and I'm still fine.. although I do have some usage of the SD card there. Still, I dont have any need for movies to be stored on my phone.
So excited for this phone.
DNA vs. S3
Here's a pic of the two side by side, in case anybody was curious.
Nice photo. Do you have any next to a Rezound?
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Awesome can't wait to get mine. Preordering tonight!
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Nice photo. Do you have any next to a Rezound?
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give me a minute and i will see what i can do
I switched from the rezound to the nexus and now i dont know if i can live without paranoid android..but jesus 1080p
This phone's sick. Do u know if this will be available in europe anytime soon?
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Nice photo. Do you have any next to a Rezound?
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Here you go.
xhika said:
This phone's sick. Do u know if this will be available in europe anytime soon?
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Not that I know of. I've only seen rumors online of it being available in a few additional Asian markets, but I don't know for sure about that. I wouldn't be surprised if this screen found its way into another device for the global market in the coming months, but I guess you never know. I sure hope it does. It's too beautiful a device to not be available elsewhere.
Thanks for the fast reply! I hope it comes to europe too, was thinking about buying htc one x+ but then I saw this crazy phone...
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Here you go.
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Thanks a ton both of you! Not as much difference as you'd think either.
Another question that just came up in the office was about its charging port. Is it behind one of those annoying flaps? And is it a standard micro USB or the different EXT- Micro USB (still accepts standard micro USB) like on the Rezound?
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Thanks a ton! Not as much difference as you'd think either.
Another question that just came up in the office was about its charging port. Is it behind one of those annoying flaps? And is it a standard micro USB or the different EXT- Micro USB (still accepts standard micro USB) like on the Rezound?
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No it's back to the standard micro USB, like on the original Incredible. It is behind a flap, though. The charge port is at the bottom of the device, just like the S3, which I prefer quite a lot. I always hated the weight of the cable pulling downward on the charge port when it was on the side of the device.
after playing with one of the wireless chargers at the vzw store i think once they officially release i will be picking up one of those since i hate the idea of having to pull that dang flap when i want to charge
Dang, so I'll have to pass-on my hardly acquired rezound cables to my co-workers. They were sure a pain to find lol. Oh well, that's the least of my worries :laugh: .
Yeah the flap may be something that could be slightly annoying. I remember the one on my LG Venus... Ripped it off after a few months of use
I wonder how much the wireless pad's will be?
Oh, and another question (my bad!), as jmichaels1982 mentioned in a few other threads, can you do voice/data simultaneously over 3G? I know it should over 4G... We tether our phones a lot via USB (EasyTether) and are often out in the boonies for work, not to mention where I live doesn't have 4G yet. Thanks again you two. It sure helps having someone on the "Inside"