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What are the real chances of getting root on our 3vo's before the end of the 30 days... or ever?
I know the developers are totally awesome - but after all this time I think they should know if it's going to be possible or not.
Am I wrong?
Any comments agrabren, Zone23, RVDigital, Leoisright,xHausx?
Like, will it happen by an accidental breakthrough?
Any Voters?
We'll get it, just not in the 30-day return window.
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We'll get it, just not in the 30-day return window.
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Agreed. Seems likely.
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I guarantee it will have root.
give it time, only been out 2 weeks
I am 100% confident this phone will be s-off, eventually.
100% of that confidence is in the talent of the geniuses here, 0% in HTC making good on their word. Sure, HTC will do something I just wonder if it will be this year, next year.. maybe 2013.. Not holding my breath on that.
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I guarantee it will have root.
give it time, only been out 2 weeks
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Agreed. Root isn't gonna come through the traditional approaches, because this phone is designed differently than the phones that came before it, so we're gonna have to change our way of thinking and methods of attack, but no system is bulletproof, especially a new (i.e., unproven) system.
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Agreed. Root isn't gonna come through the traditional approaches, because this phone is designed differently than the phones that came before it, so we're gonna have to change our way of thinking and methods of attack, but no system is bulletproof, especially a new (i.e., unproven) system.
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Thanks,
It's all the different methods that are still not working, to give permanent root, that get me worried- I hope to see it p-rooted by tomorrow, attack harder!
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Agreed. Root isn't gonna come through the traditional approaches, because this phone is designed differently than the phones that came before it, so we're gonna have to change our way of thinking and methods of attack, but no system is bulletproof, especially a new (i.e., unproven) system.
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If no systems are bullet proof, that means that every Android phone that has been released with an encrypted bootloader has been cracked? I was under the impression that phones that have been out for over a year now like the Droid X, have yet to be completely unlocked. Perhaps I'm wrong.
highly unlikely that HTC will release unlocked bootloader in the 30 day time period.
I think our devs can do it in under 30 days, but we'll have to wait and see. Of all the HTC phones, I think we have the best group of devs. I'm sure they'll get it done. Just don't know how long it will take. Maybe 20 days, maybe 45, who knows?
I think the rumor of a 2.3.4 update coming soon carrying an unlocked bootloader is just that, a rumor (both that it's coming soon, and that it will carry an unlocked bootloader). I hope to be proven wrong x 2, but I'm not going to lose sleep waiting up...
It took a long time on the EVO Shift, so I will not ever give up hope.
I'm just going to say in the next five days. That would be cool.
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I'm just going to say in the next five days. That would be cool.
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That would be cool!
I'm pulling for xda!
I was reading on the EVO forums and the new GB OTA locks down the phone! They said not to use OTA on the EVO.
So it's odd that anyone still thinks HTC will unlock the 3VO.
Just my 1/2 cent worth
Stephanie95 said:
That would be cool!
I'm pulling for xda!
I was reading on the EVO forums and the new GB OTA locks down the phone! They said not to use OTA on the EVO.
So it's odd that anyone still thinks HTC will unlock the 3VO.
Just my 1/2 cent worth
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I think HTC will unlock the phone, as will our devs (probably first). Brought back the E3D due to a slew of tiny problems and the radios sucking hard. But i wasn't going to wait around. I went back to my E4G, but had the itch to get a new phone. So I traded in the E4G for the NS4G. It has radios slightly better than the E3D and if I get "stuck" with it I know I won't be locked into stock experience...and this thing kicks the E4G's ass...OC'd to 1.4gHz it rates as twice as fast as a stock E4G...
So if the E3D is unlocked in 30 days or the SGS2 is released I'll get one of them, if not i got the best buy buy-back program on my side....I always figured it was a ripoff but you get 50% of your original purchase price in 6 months--when the NexusPrime will be coming out...so that's $350 trade up value. A small price to pay.
Also the battery life on the NS4G is effing fantastic. slaughters both the E3D and E4G--even modded to the gills.
So, in summation, I feel confidant that I'll be rocking an E3D again in the next 30 days...or SGS2....but I'll certainly have a Nprime (1280x720 cellphone!??), and that thing won't have concerns for 'will it be cracked?'
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Agreed. Root isn't gonna come through the traditional approaches, because this phone is designed differently than the phones that came before it, so we're gonna have to change our way of thinking and methods of attack, but no system is bulletproof, especially a new (i.e., unproven) system.
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Oh yeah? People said the same about the PS3 & we waited what? 5 years for that to finally get cracked? Not saying that it can't or won't get root but there are no guarantees & it being new or unproven has nothing to do with it. They didn't spend the time & money to come up with a new system just for ****s & giggles.
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Oh yeah? People said the same about the PS3 & we waited what? 5 years for that to finally get cracked? Not saying that it can't or won't get root but there are no guarantees & it being new or unproven has nothing to do with it. They didn't spend the time & money to come up with a new system just for ****s & giggles.
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Funny how geohot said a 12 year old with a 2gb flash drive and the internet could do it....
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daneurysm said:
I think HTC will unlock the phone, as will our devs (probably first). Brought back the E3D due to a slew of tiny problems and the radios sucking hard. But i wasn't going to wait around. I went back to my E4G, but had the itch to get a new phone. So I traded in the E4G for the NS4G. It has radios slightly better than the E3D and if I get "stuck" with it I know I won't be locked into stock experience...and this thing kicks the E4G's ass...OC'd to 1.4gHz it rates as twice as fast as a stock E4G...
So if the E3D is unlocked in 30 days or the SGS2 is released I'll get one of them, if not i got the best buy buy-back program on my side....I always figured it was a ripoff but you get 50% of your original purchase price in 6 months--when the NexusPrime will be coming out...so that's $350 trade up value. A small price to pay.
Also the battery life on the NS4G is effing fantastic. slaughters both the E3D and E4G--even modded to the gills.
So, in summation, I feel confidant that I'll be rocking an E3D again in the next 30 days...or SGS2....but I'll certainly have a Nprime (1280x720 cellphone!??), and that thing won't have concerns for 'will it be cracked?'
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I've been pondering doing the same thing. Never have to friggen worry about a nexus being locked down. I'm starting to think that if I want to mod my phone and flash roms and kernels, then maybe it would be beneficial for me to just stick to the nexus line. If half the rumors of the nexus prime are true, then that damn thing may be worth waiting for. Htc has left a sour taste in my mouth by locking this thing down so tight. Not even worth the bs, if modding your phone is what you're interested in.
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Oh yeah? People said the same about the PS3 & we waited what? 5 years for that to finally get cracked? Not saying that it can't or won't get root but there are no guarantees & it being new or unproven has nothing to do with it. They didn't spend the time & money to come up with a new system just for ****s & giggles.
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That's not fair. Geohot didn't start to try to hack it until they took away other OS. So base the timeline off that.
At least AFAIK.
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DoctorComrade said:
That's not fair. Geohot didn't start to try to hack it until they took away other OS. So base the timeline off that.
At least AFAIK.
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Yup took him 5weeks .... Not 5 years.... Lol
3D > iclone
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I've been pondering doing the same thing. Never have to friggen worry about a nexus being locked down. I'm starting to think that if I want to mod my phone and flash roms and kernels, then maybe it would be beneficial for me to just stick to the nexus line. If half the rumors of the nexus prime are true, then that damn thing may be worth waiting for. Htc has left a sour taste in my mouth by locking this thing down so tight. Not even worth the bs, if modding your phone is what you're interested in.
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Yup. That's what hooked me, and even though this phone has near 'feature parity' with th E4G it replaced it is _so_ much more refined. It is the Android experience that Google sees as "standard" for this generation of phones. Even with the bull**** stock launcher on a stock rom everything is so effing smooth. _Everything_, I have never seen Android run so lag free and I have my E4G oc'd to 1190, tried every kernel, locked home app in memory, tweaked every setting everywhere...Yes, it's even smoother than the E3D...even with the same launcher...It is Google's absolute definition of what this generation of Android should look and feel like. Oh, and the camera destroys E4G and E3D...sure, no 720p video, but, the WVGA video is perfectly smooth and the audio isn't sickening like the 4G...and while a bit grainy it stays just as smooth in lower light conditions.
I know, it doesn't make sense...512mb ram, 1ghz...slightly better than average GPU....but...damn....and the battery life is fantastic. Also, sAMOLED might not be accurate color, but it's dead sexy color. Getting s-off took one command over ADB. I had CM7 up in under 10 minutes...including download time.
I'm a very happy camper...I think I'm going to stick to my plan and keep this until Nprime comes along, trade this in and keep on sticking with the Nexus line. Unless the E3D is unlocked in the next 30 days in which case I'll grab that and use that to trade up to the Nprime.
nate420 said:
Funny how geohot said a 12 year old with a 2gb flash drive and the internet could do it....
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Yeah but hacking on the PS3 didn't start with him. He can say what he wants about how easy it was, but people had been trying since it's release with no success. Granted he found the way, but last time I checked, he wasn't a member of TeamWin or any other Android affiliated group.
So this site lists the View for $399, but when you hit Buy Now, the price comes up as $299 plus $20 for shipping (credit to SlickDeals for the tip).
I just paid $255 for a WiFi Flyer. I have no desire to activate this thing on Sprint, so essentially, this would serve as a WiFi Flyer, too. However, it's black (which I like better than the silver), and it's got double the memory. It looks like the View gets hardly any support from devs, though. Is it worth the extra $65 bucks to pick this up?
Mainly, will the leaked Honeycomb updates work on the View?
EDIT: Down to $275 plus shipping now. I couldn't resist.
What site?
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What site?
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Wow...knew I forgot something.
http://reaganwireless.com/htc-evo-view-tablet.php
http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3577174
So you bought the View from Reagan for $275 - I am very curious to see a) if you get it and b) if it is sealed brand new
Yeah, I am, too. One guy said he picked 2 up directly and they were as described and able to be activated on Sprint.
I'm really hoping that the official Honeycomb update comes out soon. If it doesn't, I'll probably resell the View. Not sure I want a tablet without support from the community behind it.
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So you bought the View from Reagan for $275 - I am very curious to see a) if you get it and b) if it is sealed brand new
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Looks like you have to use PayPal to purchase it, so at least you are covered by their guarantee.
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Looks like you have to use PayPal to purchase it, so at least you are covered by their guarantee.
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That's the reason I went ahead and purchased. It shouldn't be too hard to dispute it with PayPal should that become necessary.
Having had a few HC 3.2 tablets - Acer, Archos - I prefer the speed and stability of HTC's Gingerbread with Sense. If HTC does bring out HC for Flyer/View - all well and good, but not a big deal to me - I love the Flyer the way it is.
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Having had a few HC 3.2 tablets - Acer, Archos - I prefer the speed and stability of HTC's Gingerbread with Sense. If HTC does bring out HC for Flyer/View - all well and good, but not a big deal to me - I love the Flyer the way it is.
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Well, really, the reason I want support is because I'd like to see ICS on it at some point.
Plus, the expanded pen capabilities of Honeycomb seem sweet, since that is one of the primary features of this particular tablet.
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Well, really, the reason I want support is because I'd like to see ICS on it at some point.
Plus, the expanded pen capabilities of Honeycomb seem sweet, since that is one of the primary features of this particular tablet.
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Ok gotcha - let us know when you get your HTC Evo from Reagan and let us know how it went.
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Ok gotcha - let us know when you get your HTC Evo from Reagan and let us know how it went.
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Will do. I got a shipping notification already. I'm traveling for the next few weeks, though, so I won't actually be able to check it out until next month.
Went ahead and purchased one from this site since the flyers are literally unavailable locally. Purchased monday and paid for 2 day ups. Just got it 5 minutes ago BNIB. Was sketchy on ordering but since paypal was used I wasn't worried about getting my money back. The site and price (as long it lasts) is legit.
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Went ahead and purchased one from this site since the flyers are literally unavailable locally. Purchased monday and paid for 2 day ups. Just got it 5 minutes ago BNIB. Was sketchy on ordering but since paypal was used I was worried about getting my money back. The site and price (as long it lasts) is legit.
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Sweet. Good to know. That's what a couple of other reports have said, too, so I don't really expect to find any issues when I get mine. It was delivered today, so now all that remains is for me to get back into town and open it up.
LOL ouch on the unsupported side of things. Let's just say im waiting since something is dropping really soon that would make a gingerbread kernel a waste of my time. I may compile one but it will be more practice than anything else.
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contradude said:
LOL ouch on the unsupported side of things. Let's just say im waiting since something is dropping really soon that would make a gingerbread kernel a waste of my time. I may compile one but it will be more practice than anything else.
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Sounds like you know something I don't. If this thing gets Honeycomb, then I'm definitely keeping it. I can deal with a rooted system on a stock ROM, but I didn't really want to be stuck with Gingerbread for the life of the thing.
In my defense, I didn't see your ROM until after I found this deal. I'll probably try your ROM out, and if you develop something for HC, I'll definitely try that out, too.
199.99 new line activation thru a third party sprint store. Sprint data is good where I'm at and like u said double the memory. All together pen+tab =270.00= me geekin out til my girl leaves me LOL. 20.00/mo for 1gig data...not the best but certainly the lowest option out on the market as far I've seen. I have only used 62 kb and sure its gonna stay there for a while. Plenty of WiFi.
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199.99 new line activation thru a third party sprint store. Sprint data is good where I'm at and like u said double the memory. All together pen+tab =270.00= me geekin out til my girl leaves me LOL. 20.00/mo for 1gig data...not the best but certainly the lowest option out on the market as far I've seen. I have only used 62 kb and sure its gonna stay there for a while. Plenty of WiFi.
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Not bad. No way I'll be signing a contract with Sprint again (at least for a few years), but if it works for you, then great!
Off late I've been really pissed by my phone. I had to factory reset my phone a couple times this week and I very frequently find my phone struggling even with CM7. I really doubt it helped it too much, though I must admit it was better with it.
So, I am hoping I can go all out on the Customer service (I don't mean shouting at them, but use all skill available) to wrestle a different phone from them. Definitely not Droid 3 (I hate keyboards), but what do you think I could get if I tried real hard?
And what tips do you guys suggest me to use?
UPDATE!!! Read this for important tips to score a new phone from VZW, and my farewell to DX2 community!
The x2 is not near old enough to get a new model. Try again in 8 months.
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m125 said:
The x2 is not near old enough to get a new model. Try again in 8 months.
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I don't really want a brand new model. I will settle with any good phone that was released in the same time frame as the X2...
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I don't really want a brand new model. I will settle with any good phone that was released in the same time frame as the X2...
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See my other post...lol most likely they will offer Droid 3. Add a one time thing they replaced with New Droid Charge, but I quickly got sick of it and went back to x2...just mention replacement alternative...they will say no 4g devices but all in all there is nothing else, but the inc 2...yuck.
Don't give up, our in to them, if they see you expressing effort to pay for a battery and cover you can usually get whatever you want. I tried fit a Bionic last week, they said no, but we're willing to give me upgrade.....upgrade...lol I did that from my f fascinate to get x2 inn June....lol
Good luck bud!
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Pixelation said:
See my other post...lol most likely they will offer Droid 3. Add a one time thing they replaced with New Droid Charge, but I quickly got sick of it and went back to x2...just mention replacement alternative...they will say no 4g devices but all in all there is nothing else, but the inc 2...yuck.
Don't give up, our in to them, if they see you expressing effort to pay for a battery and cover you can usually get whatever you want. I tried fit a Bionic last week, they said no, but we're willing to give me upgrade.....upgrade...lol I did that from my f fascinate to get x2 inn June....lol
Good luck bud!
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My actual upgrade date is over a year away... Do you think they can give me an early upgrade? My bad luck is my bro has an upgrade, so every time they suggest early upgrade they are very eager to eat away my bro's upgrade... Jackasses. They got lucky. I will say no and they will say I can't help you
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I don't really want a brand new model. I will settle with any good phone that was released in the same time frame as the X2...
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You'd have to come up with quite the case to force Verizon to ship you a new device. You'd probably have to have gone through 3 or more X2's and have a multitude to problems consistent across each replacement phone. Then, your convos with every rep must be perfect...
You need a miracle.
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You'd have to come up with quite the case to force Verizon to ship you a new device. You'd probably have to have gone through 3 or more X2's and have a multitude to problems consistent across each replacement phone. Then, your convos with every rep must be perfect...
You need a miracle.
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lol. I don't deny one bit that I need a miracle here. I am half expecting that I win some raffle and get a Galaxy Nexus! I really need to win some lottery or something, but then again such great things never happened to me!
As far as an early upgrade goes, I think Verizon stopped doing that not too long ago. I may be wrong though. But when they did, you had to be kind of close to your upgrade date and you had to shell out almost full price for the phone.
I have been riding thier arsses since Nov. about signal and wifi issues with my X2 went through 3 phones with them .Today they gave me a bionic and a multi mediadock (the good 1) and a new car dock. I had gotten in on a price mishap on verizon.com and ordered a accy.package for 19.99 reg price 99.99 anyway I would have had the bionic a month ago but I held out for the accy's too.
Call them every couple of days and complain . Make sure you get transferd to a higher tier. If all else fails ask to be transferd to "Customer Retention" and state your case to them.
just tell them you are willing to pay for an upgrade, nothing but issues with the x2 blah blah blah, talk money, keep talking money, that's all they wanna hear really is cash, so you'll probably have to pay, but it should be possible if you offer money....oh yeah, money, money money....just have someone stand near you saying money every couple seconds and they will give you what you want lol....see the pattern?
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just tell them you are willing to pay for an upgrade, nothing but issues with the x2 blah blah blah, talk money, keep talking money, that's all they wanna hear really is cash, so you'll probably have to pay, but it should be possible if you offer money....oh yeah, money, money money....just have someone stand near you saying money every couple seconds and they will give you what you want lol....see the pattern?
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Looks like I'm gonna have to suck it up, be a man and live with this PITA! :/
And next April (no sir, I am talking about 2013) I need to buy something OTHER than Motorola...
litetaker said:
Looks like I'm gonna have to suck it up, be a man and live with this PITA! :/
And next April (no sir, I am talking about 2013) I need to buy something OTHER than Motorola...
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I would be very surprised if by 2013 Motorola doesn't have some type of unlocking program/procedure available.
then again, no I wouldn't
For me, April will be too late if they even do start unlocking bootloaders. My upgrade is in January and I'm sure I will be moving on to an HTC. I'm ok with that.
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For me, April will be too late if they even do start unlocking bootloaders. My upgrade is in January and I'm sure I will be moving on to an HTC. I'm ok with that.
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I was looking at the HTC Rezound, but now I'm beginning to lean towards the Galaxy Nexus 32gb model. No SD card, but 32gb of internal memory is nothing to sneeze at! I know the Rezound has 16gb internal and then an SD card, but at least with the Samsung Galaxy, you get ICS out of the box.
I still don't know, though. I have to wait and see what is available come my upgrade.
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Looks like I'm gonna have to suck it up, be a man and live with this PITA! :/
And next April (no sir, I am talking about 2013) I need to buy something OTHER than Motorola...
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my upgrade is on May 18! ill probably keep this PITA until my bday in sept or maybe get the iphone 5 on release (only if LTE, has a bigger screen and quad core)
They will give you an early upgrade 6 months early for a fee of $20
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They will give you an early upgrade 6 months early for a fee of $20
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lol
I guess it would be pointless to ask them if I can get an early upgrade 12 months early for $40
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I guess it would be pointless to ask them if I can get an early upgrade 12 months early for $40
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Lol, right!!!
They gave me a new Charge in August, first call, no questions asked, in October I went back to x2, I offered y to pay for battery and back. After two replacements they keep offering nee early upgrades but I insist I shouldn't have to pay more money, just to have a phone that works...LOL
I'M going to try for a bionic replacement alternative again soon...
Life, just like Ash said earlier offer some sort of money...battery...etc
Good luck
This ISN'T my Transformer Prime
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I would be very surprised if by 2013 Motorola doesn't have some type of unlocking program/procedure available.
then again, no I wouldn't
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I hope so. If not, hopefully the S3 is out by the time I can upgrade (August 2013)
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I hope so. If not, hopefully the S3 is out by the time I can upgrade (August 2013)
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2013...when is that..ooh light year away, we'll be sporting 5g by then from a different manufacturer.
The doctor told me I only have a week to live, so, right here right now!!! I'm playing, hopefully more manufacturers unlock their devices, honestly this x2 was nice, still is, but think I'm just bored, let me stop in to day hi to Motcher...lol
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Hi
I just sold my captivate and am looking for a new phone. I want to get the rezound. Does it come sim locked to Verizon? And if it does where do i unlock it?
Thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1421341
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1505767
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1523864
Thank you oh krelvinaz. Tho art generous in sharing your wisdom ;-) lemme check them out
Am already aware of the existing problems and their work arounds and the only problem remaining is the sms one and am sure something will give and a solution found. What i need is to know if there is a way to unlock the phone.
Phone is factory unlocked for gsm use, minus the sms problem.
Huraaaah! Getting it next week then. Or maybe i should wait for an sms work around to the problem
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Am already aware of the existing problems and their work arounds and the only problem remaining is the sms one and am sure something will give and a solution found. What i need is to know if there is a way to unlock the phone.
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The phone comes 'Unlocked' but texting/SMS as said has not been fixed (But hopefully we are nearly there ) and if you are looking to buy I have just seen a new listing for HTC Rezound on ebay for like half the price I bought mine for
Listing: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HTC-Rezou...76961?pt=UK_Mobile_Phones&hash=item4ab501d881
£280?? what the duck is that about?? (just to let you know I bought mine for just over £420 and that was cheap then? ) Can someone tell me If I was riped off??
^^^^my mouth is watering....am hungry for a hd screen!
Don't buy the Rezound for GSM use. Wait for the HTC One X.
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Don't buy the Rezound for GSM use. Wait for the HTC One X.
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Yeah, I just don't get it. The Rezound is a cool phone, but it's not worth the hassle.
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Yeah, I just don't get it. The Rezound is a cool phone, but it's not worth the hassle.
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For me, the best screen sie is 4.3" beyond that i think its excessive. Also, the one x is not due in the market for atleast another month and when is does come out, its price will be rocket high. Again, the Rezound is the only phone with a 1280x720 res on a 4.3" screen. So i figure i take it now
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For me, the best screen sie is 4.3" beyond that i think its excessive. Also, the one x is not due in the market for atleast another month and when is does come out, its price will be rocket high. Again, the Rezound is the only phone with a 1280x720 res on a 4.3" screen. So i figure i take it now
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Yeah thats the exact same reason I like my HTC Rezound so much!, but I must admit when I see that I could of got one for half of what I paid for it kind of REALLY ANNOYED ME!!!! haha
Half? Try almost a quarter of what I spent.
Am bidding for one as we speak...am soon going to join your ranks...the droid army shall live forever!
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... but I must admit when I see that I could of got one for half of what I paid for it kind of REALLY ANNOYED ME!!!! haha
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I actually waited. My upgrade was available Dec 28th. At the time, it was $299, by Jan it was $199, I saw Amazon had it for $79 but I am on a company plan and couldn't figure out how to get it for that price. I got it in Feb when it dropped to $99.
Last time I went full pop on the original Dinc, didn't have root for months. Didn't want to do that again. Was a great phone, but the Rezound is much better.
More internal memory is one big plus and it is much faster than the Dinc ever was. Camera takes great macro pictures.
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Am bidding for one as we speak...am soon going to join your ranks...the droid army shall live forever!
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GOOD LUCK MATE!!, hope you get it!, and btw just took a look at that one I stated earlier, its £200 now???????? Thats a bargan if you don't win your bid!.
I may have to bid on it just cause its soo cheap
Statutory Warning : This post is SUPER long! May cause delusions, dehydration, rage towards Motorola and/or VZW or depression! For those who can't withstand this post, skip to the end for a one line summary.
So it has been over 8, dreadful and painful months with the DX2. And to dull this pain, I had you guys to follow and read up on. Great devs and their ROMs, Pepperm1nt, Nitro, the_guy_who_made_liberty (Oops, I dunno the name of the guy), Ryman222 for his Molten (which incidentally was my first ROM) and then comes mastafunk, aceoyame and the one and only Dragonzkiller!!! He was THE guy who let me have hope over the last few months (of course, with respect to my phone! If he was the sole reason I'd have hope in my life over the last few months then something is SERIOUSLY wrong with me... ).
There are many others like Moonshadow, TransX2, TravisdroidX2, iBolski (who was the inspiration for my BBB Moto attack), gaad0701, antp121 , Sandso9, ashclepdia(OMG! How did I forget you!) ad infinitum! All of you guys helped me have fun around in these forums and gave me numerous thanks as well. I am very grateful to you and will definitely miss you when I leave. So I'll still pop in every now and then so that I don't completely miss you guys!
Anyway, coming to the actual news! I got a Droid Incredible 2, currently being shipped by VZW with a back plate and a battery as well! Swell! Here is how this happened.
Over the last 1-2 weeks, I got very active in pursuing my Moto and VZW complaints. So, many phone calls, emails and chats have been exchanged. But in short, nothing significant emerged. Then I heard people complaining to VZW and getting a call from an engineer and being offered a Gnex!!! Naturally, I was jealous, but also inspired and motivated to attack VZW to score a new phone.
I got a call from VZW in response to my online complaint. I seized this opportunity to get in touch with a Tech support rep and elaborated and bemoaned about my phone's countless issues. She was sympathetic and TRIED to check if I could possibly get a different phone. Unfortunately I couldn't. BUT she said something that intrigued me! She said that I did not hit the threshold that would make me eligible to getting a different phone. I was told that I needed to order ONE more DX2 replacement device before I can get a different phone. You see, I only ordered one replacement so far. So I hatched a plan.
I ordered a second replacement DX2 (making it the third DX2 I had, the first being the one I purchased and the second and third being the replacements). I ordered it yesterday and I received it today.
Then, I didn't waste anytime tinkering and checking this phone. Instead I activated it and immediately called VZW claiming that this phone had all the issues my previous 2 phones had as well. They lied to you (Moto and VZW) so why not you lie as well! I told them I was not happy and that I was sure that getting another DX2 as a replacement will not help either as it seems to be an issue with all Droid X2's. I added that I was told if I had issues with this phone too, then they may be able to offer me a different model. She looked into it and said, YES, they can offer me a different model!!! Huzzah! Success, finally!
I went through the process and was told that I can have either the HTC Dinc2, the Motorola Droid 3 or the older Samsung Fascinate. Samsung fascinate!? Bleh! No thank you! Droid 3!!!??? Are you ****ing serious!!!??? It is like from one hell to another!!! Not only does it have a locked Bootloader, but it is not even confirmed to get ICS as of now! Plus, I will not go for Droid 3, purely on moral and ethical grounds. I will NOT be doing business with a company that plainly doesn't give a **** about its customers, like Motorola!
On the other hand, HTC has unlocked the Bootloader for the Dinc2 AND it has added Dinc2 to its ICS upgrade list!!! . Plus as per XDA forums, Dinc2 has LOADS of ICS ROMs. Now that is my sort of company!
So sign me up for a HTC Droid Incredible 2 I said to the customer care rep. And she did.
To others wanting to ditch this phone and get a new one like me, the following are some tips and tricks.
1. Complain to VZW. CALL Tech Support: 866-221-4096.Tell them all the faults of your phone you can think of. Refer to this list if you need help : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24528918&postcount=12
2. Tell them that you checked online forums and it appears that ALL DX2's have this problem. So, request them to give you a different device.
3. Now, if you had one or less replacements so far, you MAY not receive a different device. Still, try your best to push for it by stating the systematic issues with it and claiming that ALL DX2's have it. No harm in trying. If not, do what I did and order a replacement DX2 first. It won't cost you anything and you can order another replacement the very next day once you receive this one.
4. After you crossed the threshold of 2 or more replacements, repeat Step 1 and 2. Clearly mention that you have talked to a customer rep previously and that they told you that if you are still facing problems with the device, and if you have had significant replacements (the magic number is 2) then you can be considered/will be eligible to get a different device. Even though this may not have happened, the fact is true and I can confirm it. So, no harm in claiming that you were told as such. Repeat that you are sure and 100% positive that the problem won't be solved by a replacement DX2 and that you really want a different device.
5. After the VZW rep agrees, which I believe he/she will and should, go through your replacement options, choose the device you like best and proceed with ordering it as a replacement. Thank your lucky stars you reached this step. Go to your favorite church/temple/mosque/other spiritual place and pray/donate/do social or community service if you got REAL lucky and got a Gnex or may be even a Razr (though it is Craparola's Razr!!!)
6. Once your device arrives at home, close your eyes and return Craparola's DX2.
7. Profit! Sit back, relax and enjoy your new phone and the new found freedom it provides you!!!
The end!
Once again, I am glad I made SO many friends in this community. I am grateful for the entertainment, fun and thanks you guys gave me! I will pop in regularly and check up if Moto did anything right OR if you guys got CM9/ICS via DZK, some other dev or Moto!!!
May you survive this ****storm and hopefully emerge victorious by making Moto do what you want or be bailed out, like me, via VZW!
Cheers!!!
TL;DR? Well read this: Pained by Motorola and its DX2, I got bailed by VZW. Got myself a HTC Droid Incredible 2, yippee and Woohoo!
If Cspire had better lineup of phones then I would take the same route as I love to hack and fiddle with my devices. But I can't so I'm stuck with it. The phone itself is honestly the best I've had. I'm just disappointed that I can't toy around with it much.
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it was a good run. gave me hope with all the work you did to try and get moto to fix this piece of ****. good luck in the VIVOW (sick codename btw) world. i would go for a dinc2 but my contracts up within the next month. thnks for the shoutout btw and you WILL be missed
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i though about it for ten minutes... so why not give it a shot what phone number did you call? basic customer support?
Wish you would have done this a month ago! Oh well I'm happy with what i got now lol
Sandso9 said:
Wish you would have done this a month ago! Oh well I'm happy with what i got now lol
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What do you have now?
antp121 said:
it was a good run. gave me hope with all the work you did to try and get moto to fix this piece of ****. good luck in the VIVOW (sick codename btw) world. i would go for a dinc2 but my contracts up within the next month. thnks for the shoutout btw and you WILL be missed
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i though about it for ten minutes... so why not give it a shot what phone number did you call? basic customer support?
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I guess it is a standard number.
I called Verizon Wireless Technical Support: 866-221-4096
UPDATE: My phone is being shipped! Overnight! But there is a god damn weekend in the middle, so I must wait till Monday!!! :/
Oh, CAN'T WAIT!!!
I picture MoonShadow-NM saying: "Patience, little grasshopper"!!!
By the way, all the time I was talking to the customer rep and then she said she can send me a different model device, my hand was shaking and I was giddy with excitement!!!
Enjoy and good for you. I have been currently watching swappa for another device. I agree with your post and you never know I will see what device I end up on next.
Yea I'm waiting on my BBB complaint right now. Its been only a couple days but I'm holding out hope that I can get something better. As it is now, I love this phone but all the problems make me want another kind. I have a year left on the contract and don't know when early upgrade is but I don't plan on buying another device outright.
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What do you have now?
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4s lol I'm pretty sure i told you this in the irc the other night didn't i?
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4s lol I'm pretty sure i told you this in the irc the other night didn't i?
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LOL!!!! XD XD !!
I keep forgetting!! D'oh! I had a funny feeling I asked you this already. Well now I know!!!
Well, Sandso9, I promise I will remember it this time!
Can't Wait till Monday! But I won't be home on Monday! Hope I can make FedEx leave it at a neighbor's location...
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LOL!!!! XD XD !!
I keep forgetting!! D'oh! I had a funny feeling I asked you this already. Well now I know!!!
Well, Sandso9, I promise I will remember it this time!
Can't Wait till Monday! But I won't be home on Monday! Hope I can make FedEx leave it at a neighbor's location...
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Good luck man your going to love that phone its so nice to escape the x2!
I was offered the Droid Incredible 2 as well, but sent it back. Rooting is complex, and S-Off? What is that? I read the sticky threads, and found out that you actually need to downgrade the phone to root it.
The phone is slow in comparison to the DX2, the stock launcher/homescreens are not customizable, no Bluetooth auto-answer, and I would not be able to tether it without paying another $30 for data that I am already grandfathered in for unlimited.
My phone was fine until I paired my Bluetooth headset, then all the issues started. I need a phone that can handle heavy Bluetooth usage and Bluetooth music listening.
I guess I will wait until August for my upgrade date.
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I was offered the Droid Incredible 2 as well, but sent it back. Rooting is complex, and S-Off? What is that? I read the sticky threads, and found out that you actually need to downgrade the phone to root it.
The phone is slow in comparison to the DX2, the stock launcher/homescreens are not customizable, no Bluetooth auto-answer, and I would not be able to tether it without paying another $30 for data that I am already grandfathered in for unlimited.
My phone was fine until I paired my Bluetooth headset, then all the issues started. I need a phone that can handle heavy Bluetooth usage and Bluetooth music listening.
I guess I will wait until August for my upgrade date.
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Yea If I'm only offered that I think I'll tell them to try harder, a lot harder. As if I'm going to take a device that has a smaller screen and was less money then what I bought my phone for.
YAY!
after much *****ing and crying to VZW, the lady offered me an early upgrade. not much to be excited for bc my contract was up june 18 but this weekend... the rezound is 50$. ordered and on its way! i told her all my problems with the phone, she asked her supervisor if i could get a different replacement. after she said no, (never had a replacement before) i asked if i could get an early upgrade. she said she had to ask her supervisor and 15 mins later she said i could! i then asked of i could have a free rezound she said no but i decided to spring because, well, I HATE THIS PHONE !! should be here by Tuesday if all goes well AND... i have off this week so a LOT of time to tinker. 50 bucks for one of the best vzw phones NOT made by CRAPorola? sign me up anyday. i guess this is goodbye dx2 family thanks to all the great devs we have (DZK, Ace, Nitro) the modders (motcher, MoonShadow, skwoodwiva) the themers (hedwig ) and the all around good people in this forum (Ash, Litetaker, BreatheALittle) ill pop back in every once in a while just to see if moto shapes up Good Luck in all your endeavors and hope you all are able to move past this phone
PS: Breathe i hope you do get the Rezound, that way we can fight, i mean share our passion for hockey some more lol
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after much *****ing and crying to VZW, the lady offered me an early upgrade. not much to be excited for bc my contract was up june 18 but this weekend... the rezound is 50$. ordered and on its way! i told her all my problems with the phone, she asked her supervisor if i could get a different replacement. after she said no, (never had a replacement before) i asked if i could get an early upgrade. she said she had to ask her supervisor and 15 mins later she said i could! i then asked of i could have a free rezound she said no but i decided to spring because, well, I HATE THIS PHONE !! should be here by Tuesday if all goes well AND... i have off this week so a LOT of time to tinker. 50 bucks for one of the best vzw phones NOT made by CRAPorola? sign me up anyday. i guess this is goodbye dx2 family thanks to all the great devs we have (DZK, Ace, Nitro) the modders (motcher, MoonShadow, skwoodwiva) the themers (hedwig ) and the all around good people in this forum (Ash, Litetaker, BreatheALittle) ill pop back in every once in a while just to see if moto shapes up Good Luck in all your endeavors and hope you all are able to move past this phone
PS: Breathe i hope you do get the Rezound, that way we can fight, i mean share our passion for hockey some more lol
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Good for you mate! I couldn't have gotten an early upgrade as my upgrade is April next year! Will thank you tomorrow as I ran out of thanks for today!
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Good for you mate! I couldn't have gotten an early upgrade as my upgrade is April next year! Will thank you tomorrow as I ran out of thanks for today!
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haha thanks man i guess ill see you around... i was planing on getting the dinc2 but she wouldnt give me one. so much for that l lol the rezound is a little thick for my liking but hey its got a hd screen, dual core, 4-****ing-G, gig o ram and to top it all off UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER!! WOOT.
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UPDATE: My phone is being shipped! Overnight! But there is a god damn weekend in the middle, so I must wait till Monday!!! :/
Oh, CAN'T WAIT!!!
I picture MoonShadow-NM saying: "Patience, little grasshopper"!!!
By the way, all the time I was talking to the customer rep and then she said she can send me a different model device, my hand was shaking and I was giddy with excitement!!!
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Dude I had the EXACT same feeling when the person I bought my nexus from told me they put it on eBay with buy it now at 350(I am doing a split payment on it, so he put the nexus on for 350buy it now and extended bat for 100 that I pay for next week) and after he told me I refreshed the page and it wasn't showing up at first I was like seriously if someone got it in that 15seconds since he notified me it was ready I would have flipped lol
But for the whole two hours I was conversing with the guy my adrenaline was flowing for sure lmfao
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y0himba said:
I was offered the Droid Incredible 2 as well, but sent it back. Rooting is complex, and S-Off? What is that? I read the sticky threads, and found out that you actually need to downgrade the phone to root it.
The phone is slow in comparison to the DX2, the stock launcher/homescreens are not customizable, no Bluetooth auto-answer, and I would not be able to tether it without paying another $30 for data that I am already grandfathered in for unlimited.
My phone was fine until I paired my Bluetooth headset, then all the issues started. I need a phone that can handle heavy Bluetooth usage and Bluetooth music listening.
I guess I will wait until August for my upgrade date.
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The downgrade to root and s-off is a one time deal
Once u have s-off u root easily any build u want usually
That's how it was with my buddies incredible
It was actually a LOT easier than I expected it to be lol
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UPDATE: My phone is being shipped! Overnight! But there is a god damn weekend in the middle, so I must wait till Monday!!! :/
Oh, CAN'T WAIT!!!
I picture MoonShadow-NM saying: "Patience, little grasshopper"!!!
By the way, all the time I was talking to the customer rep and then she said she can send me a different model device, my hand was shaking and I was giddy with excitement!!!
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I will be doing this on Tuesday when my replacement comes. I think I was too nice to them when I yelled at them on Thursday.
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