Juice Defender needed on the 3VO ? - HTC EVO 3D

On my EVO 4G I used Juice Defender, it seemed to help battery life a bit. Does the EVO-3D even need it ? Sometimes that app could cause more conflicts too.
Opinion ?
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i have it installed to test i have had no conflicts . going to turn it off in the am to see how good the battery is

Unnecessary for any device. As are task killers/managers, etc.

tailsthecat3 said:
Unnecessary for any device. As are task killers/managers, etc.
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yea i see you have not used Juice before ..

CheesyNutz said:
yea i see you have not used Juice before ..
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Let him breathe, its not worth it lol
Bussin Caps from my 3D shooter

I couldn't install it I already had the paid Ultimate version. So I try install that off the Market, it says need the standard JuiceDefender first installed. I looked everywhere and its not in the Market ?
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Zorachus said:
I couldn't install it I already had the paid Ultimate version. So I try install that off the Market, it says need the standard JuiceDefender first installed. I looked everywhere and its not in the Market ?
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Put the beta version on first and it will work fine.

Try using "Automateit" in the Market, it is a free app but gives you numerous battery saving options that you can set up to your liking. A lot easier to use than Juice imho, and it is very similar to Tasker.

It really helps when you lower the screen brightness just a little. That send to be the biggest drain on the battery that i hassle noticed with this Phone.
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My Experience
I spent the first 24 hours with my 3D without Juice Defender and the battery life was just alright, 3D images and video drain it quick though. I installed it this morning and my battery is still going strong, I shot a ton more photos and videos today than I did yesterday, too. I'd say use it and customize the settings to your liking once you know the program. I'm running similar setting to my Hero (CDMA) and it seems to have improved the battery life substantially.

#Winning# said:
Try using "Automateit" in the Market, it is a free app but gives you numerous battery saving options that you can set up to your liking. A lot easier to use than Juice imho, and it is very similar to Tasker.
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For more options and AutomateIt user manual see the links in my signature.

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How do i improve batt life w/ root?

Hey I rooted my TBolt and I wanted to keep my batt life boosted as much as possible.
Currently I have setcpu ondemand and a profile to get the cpu at 256mhz when the screen is off.
What else can I do.
Thanks
As far as I know SetCPU isn't going to do anything for you.
seandalton0 said:
As far as I know SetCPU isn't going to do anything for you.
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Second that,i even uninstalled it.
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For under clocking? Sure it works.
ridobe said:
For under clocking? Sure it works.
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yeah It works just fine for that profile.
Download and buy Titanium Backup Pro and use the app to freeze all the bloatware you don't want running. Stuff like Peep, Blockbuster, Bitbop, CityID, etc. I haven't rooted this one yet, but my old Dinc and DPro showed significant battery life gains when I froze these bloat apps that just seem to always be running. Backup Assistant is another culprit if you aren't using it.
I actually renamed the files using Root Explorer and moved to SD and backed up on my pc, so Titanium wasn't having to intervene all the time to keep them frozen.
I would suggest running Das BAMF Rom v 1.1. Since installing it I've noticed a nice increase in battery performance as well as a snappier phone.
spaghetti_monster said:
Hey I rooted my TBolt and I wanted to keep my batt life boosted as much as possible.
Currently I have setcpu ondemand and a profile to get the cpu at 256mhz when the screen is off.
What else can I do.
Thanks
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I would recommend droidwall, its helped my phone out immensely. You can stop your phone from sending out data constantly. That is what I found helped me out the most.
spaghetti_monster said:
What else can I do.
Thanks
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You can shell out the fifty bucks for the unsightly extended battery . Bout the only thing that really helps right now, lol.
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Two apps one call network This will allow to cut the 4g off and use 3g. The next app is system app remover cost around two dollars. Lets you remove any app. You should remove blockbuster first. Next get super power beta, it's free. I'm geting 20+ hours with moderate use.
spaghetti_monster said:
Hey I rooted my TBolt and I wanted to keep my batt life boosted as much as possible.
Currently I have setcpu ondemand and a profile to get the cpu at 256mhz when the screen is off.
What else can I do.
Thanks
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Install a ROM that doesn't have all that bloat on it.
I renamed all of the bloatware apps to .bak and rebooted.

[Q] 4G LTE on the THUNDERBOLT AFTER ROOT

Hey just came from an EVO to THUNDERBOLT was wondering after i root will i be able to enable and disable the 4G LTE on my ThUNDERBOLT or if this another way to do it ?
You can do it before or after root.
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The TeamAndIRC 4G LTE Settings app (free in the market) will allow you full control. The latest update makes it even easier...
does turning off 4G really save that much battery. The first day using my ThunderBolt I thought the battery drained pretty fast. Came home after 8 hours, minimal use at work, talked a bit and battery got down to 25%. I did a factory reset (my reasons) and removed Advanced Task Killer and today my battery was 50% after work (talked for a hour) and minimal use at work (no games, no internet). Honestly I thought it actually behaved like my Evo (rooted). Will most likely get the extended battery still, but really didnt notice the battery issues today.
Hopefully will root soon. Remove the bloatware.
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Set preferred network type
EvDo (3G) or CDMA (1X)
ddgarcia05 said:
You can do it before or after root.
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yeah im gonna root it anyway just didnt know if i had to be rooted to do it or not so thank you sir
uncouth13 said:
The TeamAndIRC 4G LTE Settings app (free in the market) will allow you full control. The latest update makes it even easier...
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thanks i will give this app a try
flip218 said:
does turning off 4G really save that much battery. The first day using my ThunderBolt I thought the battery drained pretty fast. Came home after 8 hours, minimal use at work, talked a bit and battery got down to 25%. I did a factory reset (my reasons) and removed Advanced Task Killer and today my battery was 50% after work (talked for a hour) and minimal use at work (no games, no internet). Honestly I thought it actually behaved like my Evo (rooted). Will most likely get the extended battery still, but really didnt notice the battery issues today.
Hopefully will root soon. Remove the bloatware.
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and yes it does save alot of battery 4g kills the battery life on this phone same as it did on the evo then again i didnt use 4g that much to begin with so it never really effected me but not being able to turn it off out of the box was just stupid on verizons part along with the retarded about of bloatware it came with and i will also be rooted soon
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and yes it does save alot of battery 4g kills the battery life on this phone same as it did on the evo then again i didnt use 4g that much to begin with so it never really effected me but not being able to turn it off out of the box was just stupid on verizons part along with the retarded about of bloatware it came with and i will also be rooted soon
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I agree but they might of wanted to stay away from the 4g switch temporarily because of all the trouble the EVO had in the beginning from the switch draining the battery, just a theory I believe.

battery life terrible with phone idle

i dont know if it has something to do with the fact i keep getting popups to update my phone to the new software... but right now i have the CWM recovery and alien rom and its all unlocked. however i used to get amazing stand by time till something changed it and now standby died in 9 hours. any idea what to do. i did reset battery stats several times, and nothing. is there a rom that i can download to update this motorola software so it stops bugging me
Had same issue ..went from outstanding to soso on battery life....im sure in something i did
.....but....
Installed jucie defender and all good now
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i had the same problem, but once i updated and rerooted it went away.
I had the same issue as well. Turned out it was Facebook using GPS literally 100% of the time - my phone would die in just a few hours of idle. Force-killed the FB app, turned off GPS, all good now.
angingrich said:
I had the same issue as well. Turned out it was Facebook using GPS literally 100% of the time - my phone would die in just a few hours of idle. Force-killed the FB app, turned off GPS, all good now.
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facebook app? page? built in social app?
I also use battery calibration after any flash. This helps ensure stats are wiped.
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Yay 4 Juggs said:
facebook app? page? built in social app?
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I had the same prob as him. Mine was the facebook app itself. So dumb
Had the same problem in the change log it gives it self permission to keep the phone awake and out does also keeps the GPS on too. Uninstalled and tripled back to the old version, I also killed the receivers for Facebook and I get my 16+ hours out of my battery back.
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I've got juice defender. Seems to be working decently. I'm happy with it.
If the battery is that bad it must be because of an application running constantly or something that drains the battery has been left on.
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xTMFxOffshore said:
I've got juice defender. Seems to be working decently. I'm happy with it.
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I'm an avid fan of juice defender, however, with this phone, I don't really see the need to use it. This device hands down has the best battery life of any device I've used.
just sayin'
Mine seemed to kinda go down the toilet after I flashed this ROM. I think I need to go back to the 1.5 with the EXT3 though, so I have working WIFI again, til we get the 3.2 and 3.3 updates back up and bootable.
daddymikey1975 said:
I'm an avid fan of juice defender, however, with this phone, I don't really see the need to use it. This device hands down has the best battery life of any device I've used.
just sayin'
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Well agreed.
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Why is this thread in the development section? Please move this thread to general discussion.

Q:I'll do anything if you can help with my battery life

ok so i am on ginger 2.3.3 with a day one x10a baceband 71 rooted with Custom boot loader so i can literally do anything except gain more battery life. i have tried ATK in the past and ditched it for Battery doctor cause i found when you charge with battery doctor i get about 6 more hours out of my phone. ad that to my 1800mAh battery from mugen power and i'm getting about 12 more hours then i did when i got the dang thing. killing tasks all the time deferentially helps. all in all i get about 24 hours...
what i'd really like is a custom rom that is Ginger that's whole point is battery life... i'd really like to forget to plug my phone in and not panic in the morning cause i'm at 10%
i have looked though allot of roms but can't seem to find anything with all the battery eating junk ripped out it seems most of them are putting more junk in
Are there any good LITE roms out there?
Define anything.
Try ThGo2 v7.0
Best ROM in terms of battery.Using it.I charged my phone fully and slept (11PM-9AM). Received 5 SMS and 3 Missed calls,but battery still at 100%.
iridaki said:
Define anything.
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except get a new phone
ncool15 said:
Try ThGo2 v7.0
Best ROM in terms of battery.Using it.I charged my phone fully and slept (11PM-9AM). Received 5 SMS and 3 Missed calls,but battery still at 100%.
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great thanks man trying it now. i'll report back tomorrow, my phone is at 100 now we will see this time tomorow.
still would love other suggestions though as this one may not be for me
bonznumber1 said:
except get a new phone
great thanks man trying it now. i'll report back tomorrow, my phone is at 100 now we will see this time tomorow.
still would love other suggestions though as this one may not be for me
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You better try Aniking v2.0.0 Rom.........
or you buy original battery.... and use it for stable rom ....
for flashing rom use old battery
Ewaret said:
You better try Aniking v2.0.0 Rom.........
or you buy original battery.... and use it for stable rom ....
for flashing rom use old battery
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original battery has terrible life that's why i got the extended one. now is aniking gingerbread OS?
bonznumber1 said:
original battery has terrible life that's why i got the extended one. now is aniking gingerbread OS?
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Sure it's really cool and like flying rom
Ewaret said:
Sure it's really cool and like flying rom
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how would you rate the battery life? x10 out of the box is 5
bonznumber1 said:
how would you rate the battery life? x10 out of the box is 5
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No out of the box is 3....
You can check my screen shot at page 14 of that thread
I'm saying if it was a 5 for stock where would your rate aniking but no matter i'm gonna give it a shot i'm at 57% after 10 hours runing ThGo2 v7.0 and that basically stock.
any chance for a link? doing a broad search on the forum for Aniking pulled nothing
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I'm saying if it was a 5 for stock where would your rate aniking but no matter i'm gonna give it a shot i'm at 57% after 10 hours runing ThGo2 v7.0 and that basically stock.
any chance for a link? doing a broad search on the forum for Aniking pulled nothing
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I asked him already to update for his Aniking V3.0.0 rom with normal Icons ..
will be soon!!!!!!!
Ewaret said:
I asked him already to update for his Aniking V3.0.0 rom with normal Icons ..
will be soon!!!!!!!
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so i ran Aniking all night and i woke up and it had fallen 40% and i killed taskes b4 bed... so i'm looking for a new one
i think i'm gonna try them all one by one
bonznumber1 said:
so i ran Aniking all night and i woke up and it had fallen 40% and i killed taskes b4 bed... so i'm looking for a new one
i think i'm gonna try them all one by one
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which version did you flash?
V3.0.0 is not long last battery life... but V2.1.1 is very good for battery life
Did you check my screen shot regarding with battery life
try team rom it has decent battery life and is very fast and responsive
Sound to me more like it your habit rather than ROM/Hardware .
I wound't begin the debate here about ATK, but since your post doesn't provide any technical info. Let's try this..
> Seriously, stop using ATK.. it would just HIDE the real problems.
> Remove all unnecessary widget... clock, time, weather, photo, blah blah
> Wait for a few hour, is it significantly better?
> Remove some background-apps; viber, whatsapp, skype, trillion, imo, msg, brb, blah, blah, blah
> Wait for a few hour, is it better?
Well, it should... (definately )
Some geeks down here... skip it if you're lazy.
Actually, you will need to understand something that it's not really about ROM.
Most custom ROM provide you some 'minfree' tweak. Let's make it simple.
Case 1, minfree is 60MB (most custom ROMs)
> droid will just fill the memory with lots of apps till RAM is 60MB.
> droid will start killing the task aggressively when RAM is below 60MB.
Case 2, same thing with 30MB (Stock ROM)
> droid will just fill the memory with lots of apps till RAM is 30MB.
> droid will start killing the task aggressively when RAM is below 30MB.
So, using ATK means....you shot everything to pieces, and droid just recovers it back..
or.............................you and droid trying to shot everything down.....
doesn't sound useful.. does it?
ATK is then.. useless.. unless there are some legacy no brainer app eating CPU and tell droid that 'I'm busy doing my (stupid) job, go away and don't kill me'.
Alright, that's NOT the point about ATK.
My point is, if you having too much apps, beyond 'minfree' level, there is no way you can save the battery whether using ATK or droid itself.... ATK just hide it, and make it worse.
This is why most people get a decent battery life with stock, since it provides lowest minfree level (around simple 30MB), with a cost of system performance, which is one of the reason that stock one is the slowest one.
So, what you need to do is to adjust number of your running apps, close to the minfree level.
Or adjust the minfree level (autokiller memory optimizer?) to match your current usage.
So, all in all, if you're using custom ROMs, stop using ATK, uninstall any stupid apps till free memory is running around 60-80MB. This will give you 'optimal' (not best) battery life.
384MB is not decent enough for X10 to become a multitasking speedy beauty with decent battery life.
bonznumber1 said:
so i ran Aniking all night and i woke up and it had fallen 40% and i killed taskes b4 bed... so i'm looking for a new one
i think i'm gonna try them all one by one
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Try installing JuceDefender from the market. If after trying it for awhile you find an extreme difference in battery life then your problem is probably with one of your apps accessing Wifi / Wireless data all the time.
Another thing that could be causing it is if you're in a very low signal area. Where I used to work, I was lucky to get 12 hours out of my phone. Right now, it's been off the charger for 11.5 hrs and I'm down to 82%. In this case shutting of wifi and wireless data will help.
Sorry I can't offer any more suggestions. Good luck man.
I use battery Dr. for killing tasks as it helps by doing calibration charges when you charge your phone from under 20%. So I get more battery life than I did with juice defender
Also I get full bars on an hsps network at both home and work
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GreatBigDog said:
Try installing JuceDefender from the market. If after trying it for awhile you find an extreme difference in battery life then your problem is probably with one of your apps accessing Wifi / Wireless data all the time.
Another thing that could be causing it is if you're in a very low signal area. Where I used to work, I was lucky to get 12 hours out of my phone. Right now, it's been off the charger for 11.5 hrs and I'm down to 82%. In this case shutting of wifi and wireless data will help.
Sorry I can't offer any more suggestions. Good luck man.
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I agree, I use JiuceDefender and if you take the time to set all the profiles it will help alot. Service area signal is also a key to battery life. Also try Battery Calibration App from the market, it will reset your battery stats. Make sure and leave the app open untill battery charges to 100%. Then let battery go till phone shuts down and charge again to 100%, That has been the best fix for me, plus Wolfberak's 2.3 rom's.
Ya using wolf note and I'm liking it.it's giving me my 3 days so I'm good.... I'd like to point out that juice defender as a few cool features but battery doctor seems to work better it has full cycle charging built in as well
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Better battery life on ViperRez 1.0.3

Hi,
I installed ViperRez 1.0.3 and I found this rom perfect for me, but the battery life was bad.
So I wanted to test another ROM. When I tested Nil's Business 2.3, I found the battery life was better.
Then I got an idea: Install ViperRom and flash the Nil's Business PH98IMG.zip.
Now, my battery life is doubled and I have no problems
thx will try
i used underclock to 600mhz
to get better battery [screen time] however idle is ok for me
just flashed,found that the kernel is the same.
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@OP Nice call bro. Interesting discovery :good:
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now if only I can figure out heat issues I have. on latest everything. I wonder if the .13 kernel from nils business 3.6 will work
You can also try a progam like setcpu, no frills...etc from play store. It seems to work for me.
GIGZ1971 said:
You can also try a progam like setcpu, no frills...etc from play store. It seems to work for me.
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Try cpu monitor widget by coconuts from the market and see how your cpu is working compared to what set cpu says...even using different governors.
check "enable profiles' within setcpu (don't need to set one up, just check the box) and your phone will get faster. For me it enables the 2nd core to be used more frequently, or all the time.
Just sayin...and there's been a ton of stuff written about setcpu, perflock...etc already so no need to rehash.
A screenshot of your better battery life would help..
read this thread and thought id try..
Abu-7abash said:
A screenshot of your better battery life would help..
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i did the same thing when i read this thread im running the viperRez rom 1.0.3 with the nils business PH98IMG with s-on and the latest ice cream sandwich firmware leak.. i originilly started this process with my rezound to try and save battery life the way i did with my incredible.. not getting as good of results. i noticed he never replied with a screen shot thought id add mine.. (note: this is my extended 3.7v battery and i removed my it at one point so theres actually three more hours added to the time on battery before it died adn this is light to med use all day) this really is honestly the best combination ive seen for battery life on the rezound.i cant say its doubled..at least personally. if anyone has any other suggestions im open to hear them..
Hey guys here is something else I've just done today that seems to be working awesome..
Download Rom Manager
Download and install the Kernal that they have listed under "free"
So far the phone still runs butta smooth and my battery hasn't beening flying rapidly down..
will try
eagle20g said:
Hey guys here is something else I've just done today that seems to be working awesome..
Download Rom Manager
Download and install the Kernal that they have listed under "free"
So far the phone still runs butta smooth and my battery hasn't beening flying rapidly down..
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are you using cwm recovery im on amonRa. would love to see my power stop rapidly dropping tho..
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are you using cwm recovery im on amonRa. would love to see my power stop rapidly dropping tho..
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Yeah, i was on Arom "whatever its called" and I just flashed there touch cwm to just try it out and I haven't had any issues, I installed the Kernal listed in Rom Manager just for **** and giggles and yea It has made a really big difference
ok
eagle20g said:
Yeah, i was on Arom "whatever its called" and I just flashed there touch cwm to just try it out and I haven't had any issues, I installed the Kernal listed in Rom Manager just for **** and giggles and yea It has made a really big difference
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i dont seem to see any kernel in rom manager for down load:/ a couple screen shots on where would be awesome if you have the time..
One major improvement for battery life is customizing Juice Defender. They way I set mine up is as follows:
Enable data for anything that requires data (i.e. browser, market, etc...)
Disable data for anything that doesn't require data (i.e. Launcher, Music, Messages, etc...)
Enable/Screen Off for anything you stream or tether (i.e. TuneIn, Grooveshark, DI, etc...)
What this does is only enable data for anything you actually need data for rather than right after unlocking the screen. Sure you may have to wait a second or two after launching the market before data is enabled, but by the time you're done typing in your search it should be ready to go anyways. Just a couple pennies for anyone trying to max out battery life...
Here is my screenshot.
Yeah, i was on Arom "whatever its called" and I just flashed there touch cwm to just try it out and I haven't had any issues, I installed the Kernal listed in Rom Manager just for **** and giggles and yea It has made a really big difference
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I don't find the kernel. Where is it exactly ?
Dev222 said:
Hi,
I installed ViperRez 1.0.3 and I found this rom perfect for me, but the battery life was bad.
So I wanted to test another ROM. When I tested Nil's Business 2.3, I found the battery life was better.
Then I got an idea: Install ViperRom and flash the Nil's Business PH98IMG.zip.
Now, my battery life is doubled and I have no problems
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This kernel is the exact same kernel in Viper 1.0.3. If you're getting better battery life it's probably from using the ROM for a few days and not from flashing.
Yea I was going to say but you beat me to it, they are the same kernels.
Let the ROM settle, and your battery life should increase over time, then hold steady.
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