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Title says it all. I had tried the HTC South African ROM, and liked it, but I couldnt get the keyboard to correspond with the 8525 symbols. Searched all day and decided that it wasn't worth the minimal speed increase. Instead of going back to the ROM I had, the 1.34...ROM, I decided to go with this one since it has AKU 2.6. I am so glad I did!
I live in Queens, and 3G has NEVER worked in my house. Only certain times throughout my day I would see the U symbol on my phone. And it was in south Middle Village, not near my house. Since I upgraded/downgraded the ROM, not only do I have U in my house, but after 8 dslreports.com tests, I averaged over 800 kbps and peaked at 972Kbps! Perhaps its a coincidence that U is up and running here today, but I seriously doubt it! I also upgraded the radio to 1.20 and noticed a slightly less wait time for 'locating" in PIE. The OS seems faster as well, but not much faster, than the newer Cingular ROM. To any Cingular 8525 owners out there this ROM is definitely worth a look!
There must be a reason that they decided 3 WEEKS LATER to go back to AKU 2.3. Is there a bug in this ROM that I haven't discovered yet?
The radio upgrade is what made UMTS more accessible. The OS portion of the ROM didn't have any effect on your wireless. AKU 2.6 is reported to have problems, but I never personally tried it or tried to track them after I read MS Voice Command wouldn't work with it. There was a lot of discussion about AKU 2.6 in the Wizard forum, you might find some info there.
Did you install the newer radio code independently, or did it come with the South Africa ROM?
I noticed the increase in UMTS accessibility after upgrading the ROM. I upgraded the radio only to minimize the "locating" delay in PIE, activesync, etc. It mihgt be a coincidence, who knows.
Cyberon works fine w/this ROM. I never really cared fpr VC, it uses too much RAM and is a lot slower than cyberon IMO
The reason for the thread was to hopefully find out what the problems are that have been reported. Seemse strange that Cingular made a new ROM a few weeks after and went back to 2.3
I don't know why they went back to aku 2.3, but for the problem you where having with the keyboard, you could have solved it by installing a cab in the cingular's extrom (don't remember now exactly wich one).
pof said:
I don't know why they went back to aku 2.3, but for the problem you where having with the keyboard, you could have solved it by installing a cab in the cingular's extrom (don't remember now exactly wich one).
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Yeah, I had searched, and searched, and found one of your posts that spoke about a cab with "keypad.." in the name, but I downloaded TWO Cingular ExtROMS and that file was not in either of them. When I first installed the 1.35 ROM, I replaced its extrom with the newest Cingular extROM, to no avail. I don't mind though, I like this ROM so far and it hasn't caused any issues for me. And its Cingular-issued, so all of the settings were there for me.
hi there, i recently upgraded my rom from the orginal orange one, as my phone was playing up. it was always not wanting to wake up from going in to standby without doing a soft reset. so then i upgraded to the WM6 vinilla rom, the same thing happened then but it was alot worse, then upgraded to the 0.21 rom. and im still getting the problem, without having any new programs installed its still doing it, so im not to sure whats the cause?
heres some info about it. Im in the UK with the network Orange too.
Thanks.
Radio Version: 1.06.00.00
Protocol Version: 32.37.7010.01W
ROM Verion : 3.22.110.1
Hi,
I have also recently upgraded from the original Orange rom etc to XDA Live 0.2.1. I also had occasional (only occassional) failure to wake up issues.
Since upgrading I have not had this, and the ROM is much faster and seems more stable. Today I upgraded my radio to 1.27 as well, but too early to comment on that.
I also use Phone Alarm, SPB Time, SPB Weather, and Pocket Plus. I had an issue with PA not changng profiles automatically but reverted to an slightly earlier version and touch wood it seems to have resolved it.
Can't really advise much theefore, but maybe the fact mine works (so far) could rule out a few things.
its really annoying, i would of thought that flashing a new rom it would be fine. but its still playing up, alot worse, i have to soft rest the phone everytime i want to make a phone call or to check i have a text. cant stand much longer of this. where can i get that radio rom from?
just flashed it with xda live 0.10 this time see if thats any better.
still no luck, fronzen about 4 times since i last posted. just wont wake from sleep, even if i set it to stay on without the backlight it will still freeze, im testing without a sim card in atm to see if that makes a difference,
anyone what can be causing this?
thanks.
@bomber456
Your Problem With The Calls In WMXL Is That If You've Upgraded Straight From The Orange ROM Then You Have An Old Radio Installed. Upgrade You Radio After Installing The WMXL OS And That Should Help Iron Out Your Calling Problems.
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Are you using a micro sd card?
If so, try starting from scratch WITHOUT putting the card anywhere near the phone. (ie don't use the card at all until you can prove it has nothing to do with it.)
Just a thought. I am sure some cards caused problems. (although I am using one (sandisk).
EDIT: Just seen Mousey's post - definitely a good idea, although I had the same radio as you using WM6 till I upgraded the radio today, with no problems.
where can i get a good radio for the orange network in the uk?
also i tried it without putting the sd card in and it was still the same. one thing i tried was not to put the sim card in and it was much better, dont think it crashed atall, so its down to the phone side of it.
thanks.
oh another thing, when flashing the rom it said it would take 20 mins, it only took about 5-7 mins maybe less :S is that a problem?
No. The XDA Live install is quicker than a normal rom.
"where can i get a good radio for the orange network in the uk?"
I am using 1.27 - check the wiki for radio only upgrades - same process as upgrading rom to XDA live but with a different file.
I understand that 1.34 or 1.35 are supposed to be OK, but anything from 1.27 should be OK - I have been using 1.27 today with no issues yet, but still early.
I am struggling to find any notes etc to specify the differences or specific advantages of the different radios.
Try one and see - DOESN'T NEED A HARD RESET.
installed 1.34 and its worse. losing signal etc. but im still getting crashes. i dont know what the hell is the fault. its so unstable its unbelieveable.
update : the phone doesnt crash or freeze or anything, if there is no sim card in the device. but it will crash when there is one in, i think its due to switching from 3g to gsm. also ive notcied that sometimes when i boot the phone where its supposed to display the radio and protocol info, it says no GSM!
ive now installed radio 1.27
would any software beable to still be in my phone after a rom upgrade?
any help would be great.
Perhaps try with a different SIM? may be a dodgy SIM...
seemed to work fine with my gfs orange pay as you go sim. but crashed once in a few hours. ive now unlocked my phone and CID unlocked it, and it hasnt crashed once. i think the boot number has cahnged from 04 to 06 too, seems to be stable now, (hopefully)
I installed the dcd 2.1.0 verizon rom with the v3.27.0 radio (following these instructions:
http://www.phonenews.com/how-to-add-gps-to-htc-mogul-xv6800-p4000-titan-2663/)
and everything went fine but now my device is freezing up and generally not acting healthy. Can anyone vouch for this set up and/or recommend the best current rom for verizon? Im not too concerned with having GPS available (but would be nice), I would really like to have a nice no junk rom above all else. Thanks for any advice.
I haven't had good luck with any of the gps/reva roms on verizon... Seems every rom combination has it's share of quirks/bugs it's just a matter of finding the one that has some u can live with
I'm yet to find one that is FLAWLESS... if you find one let me know!
I have flashed several VZW xv6800s. If you have the 3.35 radio just flash DCDs latest (3.0.4). It runs very smooth. I have no issues except sometimes the GPS fix takes longer. It does everything else. Make sure you Hard reset after flashing.
Edit: sorry guys, was not thinking as i typed. I meant 3.35 radio (the one from the sprint update). Flash the 3.35 or 3.37 radio!
I would suggest using the latest ROM as well. Seems to have made a difference with battery life to me.
mdjkim said:
I would suggest using the latest ROM as well. Seems to have made a difference with battery life to me.
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interesting how u guys on vzq have no problems with the reva radios... I was running 3.0.4 for quite a while until I finally canned it because I couldn't deal with apps crashing when switch to other procs... I went back to 1.7 to see if there was a problem there too but everything runs good it seems... am having bluetooth problems locking up device sometimes though so now I'm back to vzw stock radio to see if that fixes things? Actually I have no idea if bluetooth would be affected by radio or not but I'm desperately trying to find a stable setup.
I have flashed several VZW xv6800s. If you have the 3.27 radio just flash DCDs latest (3.0.4). It runs very smooth. I have no issues except sometimes the GPS fix takes longer. It does everything else. Make sure you Hard reset after flashing.
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This is VERY bad advice and will only screw your phone up even more. It says in numerous places on these boards that 3.27 radio is NOT compatible with 3.x.x roms. The only roms that will work with the 3.27 radio are the 2.x.x roms.
My question to you though is why on god's green earth are you still wanting to run a 2.x.x rom with the old crappy buggy beta radio 3.27? Just update with the alltel updater to get radio 3.37.20, don't let customizations run, then flash dcd 3.0.4...much much better and will probably fix your gps problems.
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I have flashed several VZW xv6800s. If you have the 3.27 radio just flash DCDs latest (3.0.4). It runs very smooth. I have no issues except sometimes the GPS fix takes longer. It does everything else. Make sure you Hard reset after flashing.
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Danger!
radio 3.27 is NOT compatible with dcd 3.0.4 rom!!!
1) radio 1.30 or radio 1.40 = use dcd 1.7 (non gps rom)
2) radio 3.27 radio = use ONLY dcd 2.x.x series roms (with gps , revA - experimental)
3) radio 3.37 radio = use dcd 3.0.1 or 3.0.4. (gps and revA official)
my recommendation would be option 1 or 3. Depending on whether you want gps or not.
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interesting how u guys on vzq have no problems with the reva radios... I was running 3.0.4 for quite a while until I finally canned it because I couldn't deal with apps crashing when switch to other procs... I went back to 1.7 to see if there was a problem there too but everything runs good it seems... am having bluetooth problems locking up device sometimes though so now I'm back to vzw stock radio to see if that fixes things? Actually I have no idea if bluetooth would be affected by radio or not but I'm desperately trying to find a stable setup.
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Zen,
I think you might be the victim of a dodgy titan. I was, like you, using 1.7 for the longest time because I couldnt put up with the buggy 3.27 radio. So i just stayed non gps until the new radion 3.35 came out and dcd released 3.x.x series of roms. Since then I bit the bullet and went back to gps rom. I didn't look back. So far dcd rom 3.0.4 + radio 3.37 (alltel) has been the best (i.e reliable) rom setup I have experienced since I was on dcd 1.7.0. I think they are both equal now, except that I have gps enabled now and I dont need to carry my gps with me all the time.
The internal gps does SUCK the battery down kinda fast, but it is reliable. No bluetooth issues that I can see except that call quality is still sub-par but at least it connects without any trouble. If I am using the gps function in the car i use my BT gps because the BT radio uses a lot less juice than the internal gps receiver.
I have VZW just like you and gc, az clown etc and we all have similar good experience with the new setup. So the only other thing I could say about your titan problems is that it must be hardware. Try stock again and see if it clears up the problems then I would say that my reading of your situation is wrong. But from what you have said it seems right.
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Zen,
I think you might be the victim of a dodgy titan. I was, like you, using 1.7 for the longest time because I couldnt put up with the buggy 3.27 radio. So i just stayed non gps until the new radion 3.35 came out and dcd released 3.x.x series of roms. Since then I bit the bullet and went back to gps rom. I didn't look back. So far dcd rom 3.0.4 + radio 3.37 (alltel) has been the best (i.e reliable) rom setup I have experienced since I was on dcd 1.7.0. I think they are both equal now, except that I have gps enabled now and I dont need to carry my gps with me all the time.
The internal gps does SUCK the battery down kinda fast, but it is reliable. No bluetooth issues that I can see except that call quality is still sub-par but at least it connects without any trouble. If I am using the gps function in the car i use my BT gps because the BT radio uses a lot less juice than the internal gps receiver.
I have VZW just like you and gc, az clown etc and we all have similar good experience with the new setup. So the only other thing I could say about your titan problems is that it must be hardware. Try stock again and see if it clears up the problems then I would say that my reading of your situation is wrong. But from what you have said it seems right.
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Well, that's the thing.. when I go to stock everything I have no problems but am stuck with crappy wm6.0... I don't mind not having the gps so much but it def would be nice... However, I do hate having to run an older rom that isn't community-supported any longer due to newer releases...
I think my problem with 3.0.4 might have been the way I flashed the radio.. I was one of the original ones to actually get the dcd released radio installation to work and hadn't really looked back.... im wondering if maybe that was the problem... I might consider trying the sprint rom method to get the radio and then trying 3.0.4 again...
Other than that, I don't see any way to get a warranty replacement on the device if all the stock vzw stuff works without a problem.. only support I ever have logged with vzw for this device is the many many many times I've had hung data connections from switching back and forth to reva/non reva radios so much.... I long for a stable setup so I don't have to deal with this anymore
Other than that, I don't see any way to get a warranty replacement on the device if all the stock vzw stuff works without a problem.. only support I ever have logged with vzw for this device is the many many many times I've had hung data connections from switching back and forth to reva/non reva radios so much.... I long for a stable setup so I don't have to deal with this anymore
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Now I'm not saying I condone this, but man...there are definitely ways to get warranty replacements even if everything works fine...
Just need to "screw things up" on your own Make it so your phone won't boot, bring it to a vzw tech center...cuz they won't know what the hell is wrong with it trust me...and bam they'll swap it out.
Edited my original post...
Also, i have had 2 replacement xv6800s. One was for white spot in the bottom left part of the screen. I had to call VZW and tell them they were out of replacements at the store. The other was replaced a week later for data not working.
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Well, that's the thing.. when I go to stock everything I have no problems but am stuck with crappy wm6.0... I don't mind not having the gps so much but it def would be nice... However, I do hate having to run an older rom that isn't community-supported any longer due to newer releases...
I think my problem with 3.0.4 might have been the way I flashed the radio.. I was one of the original ones to actually get the dcd released radio installation to work and hadn't really looked back.... im wondering if maybe that was the problem... I might consider trying the sprint rom method to get the radio and then trying 3.0.4 again...
Other than that, I don't see any way to get a warranty replacement on the device if all the stock vzw stuff works without a problem.. only support I ever have logged with vzw for this device is the many many many times I've had hung data connections from switching back and forth to reva/non reva radios so much.... I long for a stable setup so I don't have to deal with this anymore
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Zen,
go the 'official' route from stock. olipro 2.40. sprint 3.35 official (without allowing customizations) then flash dcd 3.0.4. If you still then have problems then we can isolate your flash before as a potential problem.
if you still have all the same issues then i really think its time for a new titan. If all is well then you can finally relax and enjoy the device.
Good luck
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Zen,
go the 'official' route from stock. olipro 2.40. sprint 3.35 official (without allowing customizations) then flash dcd 3.0.4. If you still then have problems then we can isolate your flash before as a potential problem.
if you still have all the same issues then i really think its time for a new titan. If all is well then you can finally relax and enjoy the device.
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Ya, I actually did the Sprint Flash this time around and things seem to be working better, to my surprise... Things seem to be running a lot better now compared to the radio hack I was using before... I imagine that's the reason dcd killed that link off the forums... although it didn't brick my phone, it obviously was crippling my device quite a bit.
Only thing that worries me (somewhat) about the sprint rom was that it changed the bootup screen (pre os load).. it's now black screen with red lettering showing versions... I have NO idea how that can be reverted back if I ever need to have this thing serviced. That sprint rom appears to totally changed the device.
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Ya, I actually did the Sprint Flash this time around and things seem to be working better, to my surprise... Things seem to be running a lot better now compared to the radio hack I was using before... I imagine that's the reason dcd killed that link off the forums... although it didn't brick my phone, it obviously was crippling my device quite a bit.
Only thing that worries me (somewhat) about the sprint rom was that it changed the bootup screen (pre os load).. it's now black screen with red lettering showing versions... I have NO idea how that can be reverted back if I ever need to have this thing serviced. That sprint rom appears to totally changed the device.
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Flashing of the pre-windows boot screens (i.e. the ones that show up around the time that the red lettered rom versions appear) are not part of the rom. You can't modify them with dcd's kitchen.
There are three options that you have.
1. You can create a mini rom with the splash screens in it that you can flash to the device. I dont know how to do it and dont really care to find out, but gcincotta knows how to do it and posted instructions a few days ago in another post. He can tell you how to do it.
2. You can use the ppcgeeks kitchen to create boot screens and then flash your dcd rom over the top.
3. Flashing a stock verizon, sprint, alltel etc rom will contain the splash screens and put them back on along with the correct (stock) radio and roms. Then you can take your very clean 'stock' titan back to the store for repairs or replacement without fear.
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Flashing of the pre-windows boot screens (i.e. the ones that show up around the time that the red lettered rom versions appear) are not part of the rom. You can't modify them with dcd's kitchen.
There are three options that you have.
1. You can create a mini rom with the splash screens in it that you can flash to the device. I dont know how to do it and dont really care to find out, but gcincotta knows how to do it and posted instructions a few days ago in another post. He can tell you how to do it.
2. You can use the ppcgeeks kitchen to create boot screens and then flash your dcd rom over the top.
3. Flashing a stock verizon, sprint, alltel etc rom will contain the splash screens and put them back on along with the correct (stock) radio and roms. Then you can take your very clean 'stock' titan back to the store for repairs or replacement without fear.
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Interesting.. I've never seen that changed other than this sprint rom... the stock VZW rom images I have just do the OS and Radio separately... I guess when/if I run into a situation where I need to revert back I'll worry about it then.. Until then, the newer boot screen is def cooler
gcincotta said:
Now I'm not saying I condone this, but man...there are definitely ways to get warranty replacements even if everything works fine...
Just need to "screw things up" on your own Make it so your phone won't boot, bring it to a vzw tech center...cuz they won't know what the hell is wrong with it trust me...and bam they'll swap it out.
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gc, this is so true. The 'techs' at the verizon stores (bless their hearts) know nothing at all about the titan. you could go in there with a fully "sprintized' titan and seriously they wouldn't notice.
I found this out the first time I tried to flash. I thought I had bricked the device and took it to the "service center" verizon store near my location to get the data back working (yeah that's all the problem was, but I was a noob and didnt know better). They didnt have the slightest idea what to do to solve the problem. They screwed around with it for a while and gave it back, basically the same. they offered to switch it out for me, but I said i will try just a bit longer (and it had a customized 'colonel - ppcgeeks' rom on it - if you have ever seen one it is completely unmistakable - looks nothing like a verizon rom).
I went outside, called *8899 and got a service support tech to fix the phone over the air. The problem had just been the data account needed to be reset at their end. Not only did the guys in the store have no idea how to fix it, they didnt even notice that my device was clearly not stock.
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Interesting.. I've never seen that changed other than this sprint rom... the stock VZW rom images I have just do the OS and Radio separately... I guess when/if I run into a situation where I need to revert back I'll worry about it then.. Until then, the newer boot screen is def cooler
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Yeah, if you do the flashes separately the boot screen never change. I still had the original verizon boot screens until just recently when I did the upgrade to dcd 3.0.4. Its the running of the sprint installer that overwrites your verizon splash, not the rom or the radio themselves.
Anyway, i used the dcd kitchen to create my 3.0.4 rom and selected HTC animation. That creates a HTC splash to overwrite the sprint stuff, and then I did this and this and my machine looks sweet when it boots.
The instructions of how to load them is explained in the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=379822
Enjoy. (I cant post pics of the screens because the xda database is busted at the moment)
Hey i have a ROGERS HTC TyTN, i dont really care to unlock it or whatsoever. I know the first thing to do before modding is to load the hard SPL app on there to prevent bricking...
My question is after loading the Hard SPL APP what WM 6.1 Rom would you guys recommend using? i am looking for something which does come with any bugs or the least if possible. Also would upgrading wm 5 to 6.1 interfere with my radio?
And
Which Radio Stack would best suit my phone?
Thanks
anyone with help on this?
Just upgraded radio to this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408523
I will report the results and opinion today. about the 6.1 i suggest to look through the latest releases and see which ROM is for you. i usually prefer to go with light versions, as i have a stack of soft that i prefer. and most of the HTC apps can be downloaded from the http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=260
Alright i installed
HERMES WM6.1 ROM V17 - Build 20749.1.4.0
But When i listen to music over my earpiece it will play for a few minutes and stop playing until i turn the screen back on then it will go through that process again any help on that?
Hello,
I just picked up an old ATT 8525 because my 4 year old lost my old basic cell & and it looked like the 8525 was lots of fun to mess with (as per YouTube...consummate tinkerer)
Ive read a million threads here and elsewhere and surfed a thousand sites and cannot find WM6 4 HTC hermes/8525 (let alone 6.1 or 6.5)
-Is wm6 a big improvement over Wm5
-Is WM6 needed for all these great roms?
-Will WM6.5 (if I can find and load) work with these roms and this 85?
-And of course Where do you get either (not from HTC anymore).
Regards PK
OK, I hunted this down on rapid-share. Its about 56 megs and presumably will work on the 8525. Look right? pretty esoteric.
RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_3.62.502.3_6275_1.54.07.00_108_UOOS_SVN05_Ship.exe
Is there any generic 6,1 or 6,5 for this.
Regards, PK
Mate, before flashing anything you need to Hard SPL your Hermes. Put Hard SPL V7 on from here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722 , go to page 116, post 1160 to do it without using the PC, mostly.
Go to the WM06 section to find the newer roms, 6.5 are the latest.
But before you do any of that, you need to read the upgrade guide on how to flash your phone. Do a search, thats what its there for.
Cheers...
Thanks,
BTDT (been there done that). Read everything I can find here, there and everywhere, Have download the right stuf f I think (at it 3 days lad)
Since I posted I have found two versions of 6.0 for this phone. One (slightly larger) here somewhere I think. And one through a more circuitous route. Be interested to see the upgrade sequence going to Wm 5 to WM 6.5. Thanks for the tip.
Hermes_radio_only_1.56 has me a little confused, one post seams to say don't mess unless your life is at stake, but elsewhere, with Hard_spl_v7.5 (I guess) it's implied no prob. As best I can tell theres a trade off, newer radio, better reception, more battery life &, maybe worse camera performance. I'd like a balance. the camera is important to me.
'Nother bit of confusion, I have a new, unactivated sim card. Activate it first, unlock it, do all the other stuff first, does it matter?
Regards, PK
Ok I get it,
1) Install hard spl
2) Install first Att lite
3) Install WM 6.5....your favorite flavored ROM
4)Install different radio when you really know what your doing
PK
Yep, you got it, however, if you're using the sd card method to install the roms, its slightly different than installing Hard SPL V7, drop the steps using sspl.exe. You now have Hard SPL, you don't need to use Soft SPL anymore and its safer not to.
As you said, Don't mess around with the radio unless you know FOR SURE its gonna help. This is the one thing that practically guarantees a brick if it stuffs up during the flash.
It will effect signal reception, thats all. And always use sd card method to flash the radio rom.
Camera is not affected by Radio Rom. Look for a rom with a good camera cooked in. use the WM06 section of the Hermes forum to find WM06/6.1 & 6.5 roms.
Cheers...
Thanks D,
That was fun.
Oddly, my phone and $5.95 SIM card arrived simultaneously yesterday. Reread the HTC guide(s)., Ran through my recipe and it worked, The flashes went remakably easy and fast.
The only thing that still doesn't work is the camera zoom. Seems intuitive enough but I admitably have not read the manual.
I burned in "Golden globe 6.5". Little sluggish on this old 8525 but I'd expect that. Doesn't do all the tricks I've seen on Youtube but beats the holy 'ell out of stock WM 5 it came with.
Thanks for you help,
Regards, PK
hermes 6.5
Hey ...
If you want to try a lite 6.5 rom for hermes please try mine. it runs well even after touchflo is installed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=495280
I'd also appreciate feedback and comparisons to other flavors.
Nice work, might do. I'm currently semi-bricked, been loading & re-loading roms about 3-4 a day.
Does it come in any color than green??
Regards, PK