[Q] Maybe Lost Root? Not Sure. - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm on BAMF 1.7. I just noticed that programs that require root like Wifi Tether, Shoot Me, etc. don't work and question whether I have root access.
Root Checker says I have root and Busybox is correctly installed.
I want to install BAMF 2.1 and am not sure what I should do. Do I need to re-root to be certain? I did the manual ADB method the first time and the root-required programs worked fine before.
Any ideas appreciated.

Reboot and check again.
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lostnuke said:
Reboot and check again.
rooted Tbolt w/ tapatalk
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Tried that several times to no avail.

Kinda strange. I would probably go through the root process again to be safe. Probably not what u wanted to hear.
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lostnuke said:
Kinda strange. I would probably go through the root process again to be safe. Probably not what u wanted to hear.
rooted Tbolt w/ tapatalk
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Figured I might need to. Could definitely be worse.

volantis said:
Figured I might need to. Could definitely be worse.
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Exactly! Good luck.
rooted Tbolt w/ tapatalk

Ok, so weird.
I re-rooted without issue. Installed a new ROM and it's all good. The apps that quit working still aren't working after restoring with MyBackup Root.
Some of the errors:
ROM Manager: Failure to execute privileged commands
Shoot Me: No root access
Wirless Tether: Starting tether failed, verify root access
So that was last night. I let the phone sit overnight and this morning and was able to Fix Permissions w/ ROM Manager for the first time. Shoot Me and Wireless Tether are also working. Any idea what would have caused/fixed that?
Also, I still have some apps that are Force Closing. They won't uninstall from the Application management area. An Example is WindAlert. Why is this happening and how can I correct it?

I had this happen once with one of Chingy's ROM's. I think it was TPS 1.4. I just reflashed the ROM and it worked like it should. If I recall, he suggested you had 2 options if that happened. 1: reflash the rom. That worked for me. 2: flash a full rooted RUU, radios and all, through the bootloader. I wish I could remember the thread.... I want to say it was on his Gingeritus thread, but I can't remember. The answer is out there though. Doing the ADB root again isn't at all needed since you've got s-off.

Something is still not right.
I would verify the md5 on your rom. perform a full wipe. 3x cache, data, and dalvik. reinstall rom. once phone reboots, allow the phone to sit for a while to settle in. i wouldnt use Ti backup for restoring apps data. definitely not system data.

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Radio locks up and then phone reboots.

So here is the deal. At any time and any place my phone will seem to be perfectly fine. I can cruze the internet on 4G and WIFI but not 3G. I cannot make or receive calls and txt and MMS. Sometimes the phone will continue like that till I reboot it and sometimes it will reboot on it's own.
This is not a constant but more or less once a day sometimes twice and sometimes I can go 2 or three days without the issue.
official OTA MR is installed. A co-worker has the same phone and nothing, not one issue with his, but he is not rooted. So I am beginning to wonder if rooting the phone is the cause. I even thought virus once and downloaded AVG and Lookout and neither report an issue.
It is odd, not super annoying as it has never occured during a call or while I'm using the phone, it is only when I am not using it at all, which is hardly ever considering how bad arse it is.
So has anyone else seen this. It is not a full lockup of the phone just the 3G/Voice radio.
Did you have the same issues before you rooted? If so, unroot and return to the store. If not, remove as many apps as you can and slowly add apps until it starts again. This phone is sensitive to some apps that weren't designed for it.
beartrap said:
Did you have the same issues before you rooted? If so, unroot and return to the store. If not, remove as many apps as you can and slowly add apps until it starts again. This phone is sensitive to some apps that weren't designed for it.
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So I went and did a factory reset on it. And within 12 hours the issue occured. So I went to root the phone and found out that root was still there!! So when did a factory reset not clear the phone? So I did it again and still root and all the files I put into the system(ie.. webtop over HDMI, root, and talk2 with video) are all still there. But all my txt phone and other items are gone as well as everything on the SDcard(media space). So what gives?
reddragon72 said:
So I went and did a factory reset on it. And within 12 hours the issue occured. So I went to root the phone and found out that root was still there!! So when did a factory reset not clear the phone? So I did it again and still root and all the files I put into the system(ie.. webtop over HDMI, root, and talk2 with video) are all still there. But all my txt phone and other items are gone as well as everything on the SDcard(media space). So what gives?
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You'll need to flash the last MR5 in this thread. You'd think something called "factory reset" would do this.
reddragon72 said:
So I went and did a factory reset on it. And within 12 hours the issue occured. So I went to root the phone and found out that root was still there!! So when did a factory reset not clear the phone? So I did it again and still root and all the files I put into the system(ie.. webtop over HDMI, root, and talk2 with video) are all still there. But all my txt phone and other items are gone as well as everything on the SDcard(media space). So what gives?
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Just curious, which root method did you use? Droid 3 or torpedo?
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You'll need to flash the last MR5 in this thread. You'd think something called "factory reset" would do this.
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Is this MR5 newer or older than the OTA as I have the OTA installed already.
my2cents said:
Just curious, which root method did you use? Droid 3 or torpedo?
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I did the dock root the day it came out. Funny thing about that too is that the files for that remain in the /var/tmp/pulse directory and I can see it and see them in ES explorer but not in terminal emulator.
After I did the factory restore I installed super user and it was good to go. I never had to perform the steps to root and all apps that require root are working perfectly fine.
reddragon72 said:
Is this MR5 newer or older than the OTA as I have the OTA installed already.
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They're the same

[Q] The mysterious wifi issue

I've been ripping my hair out the last couple days trying to figure this out.
In the process of flashing a ROM and kernel I did a number of things:
-Carrier unlock (I feel like this is the culprit)
-Unlocked the bootloader
-Flashed Wet Dream (2.3.6 build)
-Installed webtop
-Attempted to root, unsuccessfully (let me know when the 2.3.6 root is available, haha)
After all this, everything was working fine--including wifi. But somewhere along the lines, maybe 15 minutes after I complete all these steps, out of the blue my wifi won't connect. It just says "obtaining IP address" and never connects.
So I got pissed and went on a wiping/reflashing spree. Got everything reset. The wifi was working great again. Then randomly, it just stopped working again.
Question:
Does anyone know why this is happening and what I can do to fix it?!
I'm dying here. Just as a side note in case you need this information, I think I'm going to flash to the 2.3.4 Wet Dream so I can root my device. Also, I don't mind going back to stock. If that's what fixes, it then I'll be more than happy to go stock. I plan on running webtop2sd as well.
Thanks in advance.
Mankey Magic said:
I've been ripping my hair out the last couple days trying to figure this out.
In the process of flashing a ROM and kernel I did a number of things:
-Carrier unlock (I feel like this is the culprit)
-Unlocked the bootloader
-Flashed Wet Dream (2.3.6 build)
-Installed webtop
-Attempted to root, unsuccessfully (let me know when the 2.3.6 root is available, haha) <-- i think this one no need to do
After all this, everything was working fine--including wifi. But somewhere along the lines, maybe 15 minutes after I complete all these steps, out of the blue my wifi won't connect. It just says "obtaining IP address" and never connects.
So I got pissed and went on a wiping/reflashing spree. Got everything reset. The wifi was working great again. Then randomly, it just stopped working again.
Question:
Does anyone know why this is happening and what I can do to fix it?!
I'm dying here. Just as a side note in case you need this information, I think I'm going to flash to the 2.3.4 Wet Dream so I can root my device. Also, I don't mind going back to stock. If that's what fixes, it then I'll be more than happy to go stock. I plan on running webtop2sd as well.
Thanks in advance.
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try check in: settings-- battery & data manager--battery mode ( see what presets u use).
then try check: settings--wireless & network settings--wifi settings--advanced (press menu key(the left touch key in bottom)--wifi sleep policy-- set to never.
btw, wetdream should be already rooted. correct me if im wrong.
hope this help.
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hope this help.
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Benjat, thanks for the reply.
My battery settings were set to "Nighttime saver". I set it to "Performance mode".
I set my wifi sleep policy to Never.
Still have the same problem.
My understanding was that WD was already rooted, but Busybox wasn't installing so I ran Root Check Basic from the Market and it said my device did not have root access
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Benjat, thanks for the reply.
My battery settings were set to "Nighttime saver". I set it to "Performance mode".
I set my wifi sleep policy to Never.
Still have the same problem.
My understanding was that WD was already rooted, but Busybox wasn't installing so I ran Root Check Basic from the Market and it said my device did not have root access
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maybe try reboot the phone after change the setting?
im not sure about busybox. what apps u running that require busybox? i want to try install it.
*i just try download root check basic. got message "your device isn't compatible with this item" hehe
Reboot and still no dice.
Ahhhh! So frustrating!
I was mid webtop2sd install and busybox is required for one of the steps to work. I'm actually not sure what it does.
Mankey Magic said:
Reboot and still no dice.
Ahhhh! So frustrating!
I was mid webtop2sd install and busybox is required for one of the steps to work. I'm actually not sure what it does.
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last try.. remove all wifi network added.. double check all the things i post before.. switch off wifi.. power off ur phone.. 10 sec then switch it on back, then on wifi. if still cant, i dont have anymore idea..
Thanks for all the help benjat. Unfortunately, it didn't work. Hopefully, someone else who has gone through this can help me out.
Mankey Magic said:
Thanks for all the help benjat. Unfortunately, it didn't work. Hopefully, someone else who has gone through this can help me out.
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nvm.. maybe do full wipe again..
what ver of WD u using? with what addon? im using WD 1.4.3 full
I've already done a cache/date wipes to no avail.
I'm using 1.4.4 lite. I'm thinking of flashing the 2.3.4 based WD though (is that 1.4.3?).
I could flash something else too, I guess. I really need webtop (with xfce mod) and I heard Wet Dream works well with it.
If this really is a software problem and it is the ROM's fault, then does anyone have a webtop compatible ROM recommendation?
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I've already done a cache/date wipes to no avail.
I'm using 1.4.4 lite. I'm thinking of flashing the 2.3.4 based WD though (is that 1.4.3?).
I could flash something else too, I guess. I really need webtop (with xfce mod) and I heard Wet Dream works well with it.
If this really is a software problem and it is the ROM's fault, then does anyone have a webtop compatible ROM recommendation?
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i cant tell if its problem with rom or what.. 1.4.3 is 2.3.6 base. and yes webtop work well with it.
here's normaly what i do..
Boot CWM Recovery
Wipe data/factory
wipe cache
wipe dalvik
flash rom
reboot to fastboot and do fastboot-w & then fastboot reboot.
let it boot for 1st time (until stable/full load) i left it around 10 mins
then reboot back to CMW to flash addon. usually i flash 1 then boot.. continues untill flash all.. maybe a bit fussy step.. but i prefer all loaded before flashing another
*i never tried webtop2sd yet.. still dont buy bigger mem card coz funding for lapdock
** maybe can try this one to make it clean wipe.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1421522&highlight=fastboot+-w
Yeah I realized too late that everything cost me way more than I had originally intended to spend. SD cards have come down in price but still pretty pricey for a 32 GB card.
And thank you for the link. I'll try it out tomorrow and report back. It's 1:00 AM here in Seattle!
Hey Mankey,
Have you tested different Wifi networks to ensure that the issue is not with the phone or the ROM at all?
Also, check if someone else on Wet Dream thread had WiFi issues, if this happened with someone else, then they should have fix for sure!
Usually I do what bejnat mentioned and usually works.
Also, about the root, try to follow a root process again. It happened with me before, then I had to install a .zip file through Recovery mode to have root access again.
Hope this helps!
wouldn't just flashing the radio or a newer radio maybe fix his issue??
Yeah it doesn't work with other networks either. And as for root I don't think there's a direct way to root 2.3.6 yet.
Sk8trix, I think I'll try that after I flash back to stock 2.3.4. I've tried just about everything but the radio. Kernels don't fix it.
I'll post an update in a couple days. I really want to get this fixed.
I had the same problem with my dark side when I 1st got it and to fix it I flashed another ROM ,loaded it then flashed back ,cleaned delvik cache and flashed gapps then rebooted and 1st boot fixed my problem was using 2.3.6 with webtop2sd+nebtop app hope this helps you
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[Q] com.android.phone has stopped working error

I had used the amaze 4g all in one tool kit to unlock my bootloader, install a custom recovery, and then installed a custom rom (bullet proof 2.5) along with the provided kernel to go with it.
The phone worked great for a few days, then I noticed that it was acting like the wireless network radios were turned off in the software. They were still enabled so I rebooted and it fixed the problem for a little while.
Now my phone will only give me the com.android.phone has stopped working error and will not let me turn on the wireless network radios.
I have tried complete wipe of the phone and re-installation of the custom rom. I have tried different, yet still recommend, custom kernels, as well as different recoveries all with the same issue.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. I tried searching with out any good results.
Thanks.
Are you a Tmobile user?
Double0EK said:
Are you a Tmobile user?
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Yeah. Even tried a new simcard even though I didnt think it would do any good.
toyoter91 said:
I had used the amaze 4g all in one tool kit to unlock my bootloader, install a custom recovery, and then installed a custom rom (bullet proof 2.5) along with the provided kernel to go with it.
The phone worked great for a few days, then I noticed that it was acting like the wireless network radios were turned off in the software. They were still enabled so I rebooted and it fixed the problem for a little while.
Now my phone will only give me the com.android.phone has stopped working error and will not let me turn on the wireless network radios.
I have tried complete wipe of the phone and re-installation of the custom rom. I have tried different, yet still recommend, custom kernels, as well as different recoveries all with the same issue.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. I tried searching with out any good results.
Thanks.
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are you running joes "one good rom"? dude it says right in the op
Attention 2: on the first start "com.android.phone" process will FC, it is normal.
It's because of Toggle2G app. Just open that app and give it permission to run.
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are you running joes "one good rom"? dude it says right in the op
Attention 2: on the first start "com.android.phone" process will FC, it is normal.
It's because of Toggle2G app. Just open that app and give it permission to run.
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I actually stated in my first post what rom I was running when all this happened.
I have tried Joes "one good rom" and followed all his kernel and set up instructions with no luck. On his rom I don't get the error message, but all of the wireless network options are grayed out. I am starting to think it might be something hardware.
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I actually stated in my first post what rom I was running when all this happened.
I have tried Joes "one good rom" and followed all his kernel and set up instructions with no luck. On his rom I don't get the error message, but all of the wireless network options are grayed out. I am starting to think it might be something hardware.
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doh! shame on me for not seeing that i would say if worse comes to worse, reflash the stock rom and see if youre up and running. if its still not working, then id say maybe send it in for warranty
mrmako777 said:
doh! shame on me for not seeing that i would say if worse comes to worse, reflash the stock rom and see if youre up and running. if its still not working, then id say maybe send it in for warranty
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No worries. I am actually in the process of finding and flashing the stock rom back onto it, going to try and put everything back to stock and see what happens.
Having a similar problem
toyoter91 said:
No worries. I am actually in the process of finding and flashing the stock rom back onto it, going to try and put everything back to stock and see what happens.
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Hi. I decided to add to this thread instead of starting a new one since i am having a similar problem. The originator never said if he was able to solve the problem. I was using the Energy ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362759) (ICS, S-ON) and everything was fine. I decided to try the Speed ROM (project "butter" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623184) which is Jellybean based. I did a full wipe, and after installing it I got the same com.android.phone error. I got it to stop, but then started having other issues like Superuser, BusyBox, and Titanium Backup unable to get root access. Unable to find any other solutions, I decided to restore to stock, which went fine (well I had to try a few times as I haven't done it before). After that, and having the phone working fine back at stock ICS I reflashed the Speed ROM. I ended up with the same issue. I wiped again and returned to the Energy ROM and it seems to be working fine. My quesiton is, why is the Speed ROM not working on my phone? When it flashed there were no issues, and I followed the instrucitons exactly.
I would post in the Speed ROM forum but I don't have enough posts yet since I am usually able to find answers by searching.
BillyD325 said:
Hi. I decided to add to this thread instead of starting a new one since i am having a similar problem. The originator never said if he was able to solve the problem. I was using the Energy ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362759) (ICS, S-ON) and everything was fine. I decided to try the Speed ROM (project "butter" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623184) which is Jellybean based. I did a full wipe, and after installing it I got the same com.android.phone error. I got it to stop, but then started having other issues like Superuser, BusyBox, and Titanium Backup unable to get root access. Unable to find any other solutions, I decided to restore to stock, which went fine (well I had to try a few times as I haven't done it before). After that, and having the phone working fine back at stock ICS I reflashed the Speed ROM. I ended up with the same issue. I wiped again and returned to the Energy ROM and it seems to be working fine. My quesiton is, why is the Speed ROM not working on my phone? When it flashed there were no issues, and I followed the instrucitons exactly.
I would post in the Speed ROM forum but I don't have enough posts yet since I am usually able to find answers by searching.
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That's a common problem with SpeedRom and some other as well. Re-flash the SpeedRom, after it boot-up, go to Google Play store and download SuperSU -not Superuser -, open SuperSU and update binary. After that you can install busy box and run Titanium ....
antiquezip said:
That's a common problem with SpeedRom and some other as well. Re-flash the SpeedRom, after it boot-up, go to Google Play store and download SuperSU -not Superuser -, open SuperSU and update binary. After that you can install busy box and run Titanium ....
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Thank you! After I posted I ran across somehting in the speed rom thread that made me go back to the original post. Sure enough, there is a download link for SuperSU which it says you need to flash to gain root after installng the ROM. I guess I read the instructions above, scrolled down to the rom download link, and then stopped. I will try this again with what you suggested when I have time in the next day or two.
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Thank you! After I posted I ran across somehting in the speed rom thread that made me go back to the original post. Sure enough, there is a download link for SuperSU which it says you need to flash to gain root after installng the ROM. I guess I read the instructions above, scrolled down to the rom download link, and then stopped. I will try this again with what you suggested when I have time in the next day or two.
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I had this error factory reset stop the error.
This belongs in Q&A.
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galaxy note 2 verizon (sch i605) will not load new rom!

So here is the issue. I have a verizon note 2 sch i605. I have had it for a few months. I used the casual method to unlock the bootloader and install a rooted rom. From there i installed jedi x rom since it was the best i could find at the time. Didnt really like any of the other roms out there, especially ones without touchwiz. Makes no sense to have a note 2 without s pen functionality right?
So i kept jedi x for a while. And in my searchings a month ago i saw it had a new version. I also saw a new version for jellybeans which i sort of liked before, and a jedimaster rom. I figured id try both since i am a flashaholic.
I went to install the jellybeans rom and it installed fine. Rebooted and it got to the galaxy note 2 screen (first screen) rebooted, and went right back into twrp. I figured it was strange. So i wiped dalvik and cache and rebooted again. Same thing. Strange x2. I then did factory reset, wiped dalik and cache. Same. I gave up on jellybeans figuring it was a bum rom.
After that i tried installing jedimaster. Installed fine. Wipe dalvik and cache. Reboot. Same issue as with jelly beans... strange x13... not sure what was happening, and figuring it had nothing to do with the roms, i quit on the new ones.
I then went to to new version of jedix titled jedixv12. I wanted to see if it would dirty flash, so i tried it. It did just fine. Wiped dalvik and cache. Rebooted. Booted up perfect. In playing around with it i noticed that superuser was gone and supersu replaced it. Opened supersu and it informed me there was no superuser binary! All my old apps still had permission, but no new ones could gain... weirrrrrd. So obviously that rom would do no good. I then wiped everything and fresh installed the rom. Worked fine again. No superuser binary still.
Ok so that rom sucked. I tried then to go to jellybeans from this new version of jedix. Still same problem.
So heres the question. Am i doing something wrong? I have flashed other roms to this device many times. I actually went from jedi x to jellybeans when i first got the device rooted! Now it wont? I can not flash any new roms to my device. I am stuck with jedi x for good unless i can fix this! I have no idea what the problem is since another version of jedi x installs perfectly and boots. It just seems like my device wont let go of jedi x.
Please help if you have any ideas. I am open to anything. I have exausted my knowledge base and i would like to pick yours now.
Also... looked around the internet and i cant find anyone with this issue at all. Not even close.
You may want to install twrp again, but this is just a blind suggestion. I seemed to have this problem before. Do you have check md5 selected in twrp?
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JeramyEggs said:
You may want to install twrp again, but this is just a blind suggestion. I seemed to have this problem before. Do you have check md5 selected in twrp?
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Nope. I have everything checked that was checked originally. I have changed nothing. As i said before, it used to be fine, and is fine when installing fresh copies of jedi x.
I havent tried reinstalling twrp. But i cant see why that should be an issue since it installs things fine.
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Nope. I have everything checked that was checked originally. I have changed nothing. As i said before, it used to be fine, and is fine when installing fresh copies of jedi x.
I havent tried reinstalling twrp. But i cant see why that should be an issue since it installs things fine.
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Are you sure you are on the latest TWRP 2.5.0.0?
Also, in superuser you may have an option to update binaries.
But it sounds like your root might be borked and a complete and fresh unlock/reroot might not be a bad idea.
Also, as already mentioned. Are you verifying the md5 is good on your rom downloads?
JBeXX said:
Are you sure you are on the latest TWRP 2.5.0.0?
Also, in superuser you may have an option to update binaries.
But it sounds like your root might be borked and a complete and fresh unlock/reroot might not be a bad idea.
Also, as already mentioned. Are you verifying the md5 is good on your rom downloads?
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The issue with superuser only happens when i install jedixv12. It is fine on my rom that i use right now. SuperSU is the problem i believe. It says that it cant find the binary and cant install one. Basically says screw you you arent rooted. But as soon as i revert back to my original jedi x rom it is fine.
I dont check md5 but i have downloaded the roms multiple times so i am pretty sure that one of the downloads should have been good. I am attempting to install a new recovery to see if it fixes my issues.
w4rped said:
The issue with superuser only happens when i install jedixv12. It is fine on my rom that i use right now. SuperSU is the problem i believe. It says that it cant find the binary and cant install one. Basically says screw you you arent rooted. But as soon as i revert back to my original jedi x rom it is fine.
I dont check md5 but i have downloaded the roms multiple times so i am pretty sure that one of the downloads should have been good. I am attempting to install a new recovery to see if it fixes my issues.
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May not necessarily need a new recovery, maybe just make sure you're on the updated one. Are you still on the twrp version included with casual unlock? If so, it is likely out of date. If you aren't already aware, you can just install the goo manager app from playstore, tick menu, then install open recovery script and it will flash and bring you current
JBeXX said:
May not necessarily need a new recovery, maybe just make sure you're on the updated one. Are you still on the twrp version included with casual unlock? If so, it is likely out of date. If you aren't already aware, you can just install the goo manager app from playstore, tick menu, then install open recovery script and it will flash and bring you current
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I was on the original one that came with casual. I just updated to the newest using rom toolbox pro.
Just as a weird side note... i updated and tried to install jellybeans again. After the install it says "your device does not seem to be rooted. Install supersu now?" I swiped to install and it just rebooted. Then same thing as before. Stuck at samsung galaxy note 2 screen then restarts itself and goes back to twrp. I am soooo confused. Thinking about trying to use cwm see if it makes a difference.
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Tried cwm. Same results. Obviously not a problem with recovery. Very confused.

"Android is upgrading..." on every reboot

Hi,
I'm having this issue where I get a pop-up window saying "Android is upgrading..." and "Starting applications..." every time I reboot the phone. It's not the same as when I wipe the dalvik cache where it states "Optimizing applications # through #" for about a minute or two on reboot. What I'm seeing is about 1 to 3 seconds.
I did a complete factory reset, re-flashed the ICS RUU as well as the ROM. It was fine in the beginning and for quite a while after I reinstalled my apps but it eventually came back.
I tried uninstalling apps a few at a time and it didn't change anything until I got down to the last four and then it went away. So, I then tried restoring from nandroid backup and just removing those four apps but it didn't work that time. The issue was unaffected.
I realize that the symptoms point to one or more of my apps but I was wondering if there is some kind of diagnostic logger that I can use to record whats happening during reboot that might offer some hints as to which one(s). One possible indirect culprit might be Superuser. I've had a permanent issue with updating the SU binary. When I do, I lose the ability to add new root apps. I keep root for existing root apps, but SU won't detect any requests from new apps. Therefore, I simply don't update the binary and I have no problems with new apps.
Any suggestions or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
RuLEoF2 said:
Hi,
I'm having this issue where I get a pop-up window saying "Android is upgrading..." and "Starting applications..." every time I reboot the phone. It's not the same as when I wipe the dalvik cache where it states "Optimizing applications # through #" for about a minute or two on reboot. What I'm seeing is about 1 to 3 seconds.
I did a complete factory reset, re-flashed the ICS RUU as well as the ROM. It was fine in the beginning and for quite a while after I reinstalled my apps but it eventually came back.
I tried uninstalling apps a few at a time and it didn't change anything until I got down to the last four and then it went away. So, I then tried restoring from nandroid backup and just removing those four apps but it didn't work that time. The issue was unaffected.
I realize that the symptoms point to one or more of my apps but I was wondering if there is some kind of diagnostic logger that I can use to record whats happening during reboot that might offer some hints as to which one(s). One possible indirect culprit might be Superuser. I've had a permanent issue with updating the SU binary. When I do, I lose the ability to add new root apps. I keep root for existing root apps, but SU won't detect any requests from new apps. Therefore, I simply don't update the binary and I have no problems with new apps.
Any suggestions or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
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1.) How did you root the rez? some are very picky 2.) are you using Titanium backup to restore system apps or using an app like kernel tuner?
I used the ICS RUU installation guide on TeamBAMF which walks you through using the HTC bootloader unlocker, flashing a recovery and a custom ROM. Later on, I used the S-OFF tool from JuopunutBear and flashed RezROM Ex 3.4.
I do use TBU but not to restore system apps or any data in general. I understood a long time ago that restoring data can lead to trouble so I rarely do it. I occasionally use TBU to restore user apps (no data) but have gotten into the habit of using the market links to get the app directly from the market.
RuLEoF2 said:
I used the ICS RUU installation guide on TeamBAMF which walks you through using the HTC bootloader unlocker, flashing a recovery and a custom ROM. Later on, I used the S-OFF tool from JuopunutBear and flashed RezROM Ex 3.4.
I do use TBU but not to restore system apps or any data in general. I understood a long time ago that restoring data can lead to trouble so I rarely do it. I occasionally use TBU to restore user apps (no data) but have gotten into the habit of using the market links to get the app directly from the market.
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what recovery are you using? Amon ra 3.1.6 has the su and superuser installer built in and ive never had issues....id also suggest after actually running an RUU.exe and not an OTA (ph98img file) to do the amon ra method and a pure clean flash...should fix your issue
Ok. I'll try your suggestion to help solve the Superuser problem, but what do you think about getting rid of the "upgrading" messages? Is there a way to record what the system is doing during reboot?
RuLEoF2 said:
Ok. I'll try your suggestion to help solve the Superuser problem, but what do you think about getting rid of the "upgrading" messages? Is there a way to record what the system is doing during reboot?
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if you are familliar with adb you can pull a logcat....to be honest though this does sound like either a bad or unclean flash of a rom or the whole rom itself
REV3NT3CH said:
if you are familliar with adb you can pull a logcat....to be honest though this does sound like either a bad or unclean flash of a rom or the whole rom itself
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You are correct that the re-flash will solve the problem, but only temporarily. If this was a first time occurrence, I agree that a pure clean re-flash is the best approach but I've already done that numerous times, well over a dozen in the past year or so.
Only a couple weeks ago I did a complete wipe of everything (factory reset, data, cache, dalvik cache, boot, system, rotate settings AND battery stats) and then re-flashed the RUU four (4) times back-to-back. The TeamBAMF guide says to flash it twice so I doubled it to be sure. I then flashed the ROM twice. That solved the "Updating" problem as it always has. However, once I finished re-installing my most frequently used apps, the problem came back.
It hasn't been consistent. It doesn't always come back. Doing the wipe and re-flash works about 50% of the time. I'll go months without it showing up again and then all of the sudden, there it is. It doesn't seem to correlate to the installation of any one particular app. I've tried installing only a few at a time and watching it but when it does come back, it never occurs until after I've installed my most basic line-up.
If there is any one activity that it seems to follow it is after I've had another issue (usually tinkering with a root app or mod and didn't like the way it turned out) and performed a wipe and nandroid restore. It doesn't come back every time, but it's on that initial reboot when I usually first notice it. In those cases, it's always hard to say whether the root app or mod caused the problem or did the wipe and restore do it.
RuLEoF2 said:
You are correct that the re-flash will solve the problem, but only temporarily. If this was a first time occurrence, I agree that a pure clean re-flash is the best approach but I've already done that numerous times, well over a dozen in the past year or so.
Only a couple weeks ago I did a complete wipe of everything (factory reset, data, cache, dalvik cache, boot, system, rotate settings AND battery stats) and then re-flashed the RUU four (4) times back-to-back. The TeamBAMF guide says to flash it twice so I doubled it to be sure. I then flashed the ROM twice. That solved the "Updating" problem as it always has. However, once I finished re-installing my most frequently used apps, the problem came back.
It hasn't been consistent. It doesn't always come back. Doing the wipe and re-flash works about 50% of the time. I'll go months without it showing up again and then all of the sudden, there it is. It doesn't seem to correlate to the installation of any one particular app. I've tried installing only a few at a time and watching it but when it does come back, it never occurs until after I've installed my most basic line-up.
If there is any one activity that it seems to follow it is after I've had another issue (usually tinkering with a root app or mod and didn't like the way it turned out) and performed a wipe and nandroid restore. It doesn't come back every time, but it's on that initial reboot when I usually first notice it. In those cases, it's always hard to say whether the root app or mod caused the problem or did the wipe and restore do it.
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which leads me to believe its a rom issue for that specific rom...ive never used that one so i cant verify thats what it for sure is....but having to flash the same rom twice for it to work seems like what can cause it in the first place because it already obviously clearly has some bugs...also flashing an RUU (which is a windows .exe based program...many people confuse this with an OTA ph98img file) is actually partitioning, wiping, and re installing the pure factory OS, HBOOT, and Recovery... which no recovery can do....which shouldnt be done directly before a rom install...a full thorough wipe in a custom recovery and then the install of the actual rom you are trying to obtain is how it should be done...to be honest though with how buggy this rom sounds id just suggest going to a new rom....which i have good suggestions for sense based ones
REV3NT3CH said:
which leads me to believe its a rom issue for that specific rom...ive never used that one so i cant verify thats what it for sure is....but having to flash the same rom twice for it to work seems like what can cause it in the first place because it already obviously clearly has some bugs...also flashing an RUU (which is a windows .exe based program...many people confuse this with an OTA ph98img file) is actually partitioning, wiping, and re installing the pure factory OS, HBOOT, and Recovery... which no recovery can do....which shouldnt be done directly before a rom install...a full thorough wipe in a custom recovery and then the install of the actual rom you are trying to obtain is how it should be done...to be honest though with how buggy this rom sounds id just suggest going to a new rom....which i have good suggestions for sense based ones
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Well, if you wouldn't mind offering some of your ROM suggestions and perhaps a sound RUU download source I'll give it a go and see what happens. I'm sure the initial results will be positive, it's the long-term that will be the real test.
One more piece of potentially useful information. I've converted one market app from user to system and froze, uninstalled or converted several user apps that were installed as system apps by the ROM. I read in one thread where someone had the same issue and a responder theorized that it could be from converting a user app to system. The responder followed saying the issue could be a symptom of the converted app not having corresponding "odex" files. I'm only a modest tinkerer and certainly not a developer so I'm not sure what that means or how important that is. However, I tried reversing the three conversions that I did and the issue persisted.
RuLEoF2 said:
Well, if you wouldn't mind offering some of your ROM suggestions and perhaps a sound RUU download source I'll give it a go and see what happens. I'm sure the initial results will be positive, it's the long-term that will be the real test.
One more piece of potentially useful information. I've converted one market app from user to system and froze, uninstalled or converted several user apps that were installed as system apps by the ROM. I read in one thread where someone had the same issue and a responder theorized that it could be from converting a user app to system. The responder followed saying the issue could be a symptom of the converted app not having corresponding "odex" files. I'm only a modest tinkerer and certainly not a developer so I'm not sure what that means or how important that is. However, I tried reversing the three conversions that I did and the issue persisted.
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if youve already used an ruu once you dont need to do it everytime you flash a rom....and depending on the rom certain recoveries wont work for them...good example amon ra will not work for JB or higher....if staying on ICS or sense based roms stick with amon ra only....im guessing your looking for a good Sense based rom correct?.....as for converting apps...i highly suggest against it on sense rom and can cause issues with the rom...on aosp its fine but sense just doesnt like some of them
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if youve already used an ruu once you dont need to do it everytime you flash a rom....and depending on the rom certain recoveries wont work for them...good example amon ra will not work for JB or higher....if staying on ICS or sense based roms stick with amon ra only....im guessing your looking for a good Sense based rom correct?.....as for converting apps...i highly suggest against it on sense rom and can cause issues with the rom...on aosp its fine but sense just doesnt like some of them
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My mistake, but I should have been more specific. I've only re-flashed the RUU three... maybe four times since I've owned the phone and only as a last resort to fix a problem that a wipe and/or ROM re-flash alone wasn't correcting.
As for recovery, I've only used Amon Ra on my Rezound. It's what was recommended in the Team BAMF guide and I've stuck with it. I do prefer a sense-based ROM and ICS works fine for me right now. The HTC Incredible was my first smart phone and I rooted that within a month of getting it. I tried a few ROMs but eventually settled on Skyraider which I really liked. RezROM is the only comperable ROM that I've come accross for the Rezound, but if you have recommendations, I'll give them a try.
Here's what I've done so far. The ICS RUU linked in the Team BAMF guide was an internal flash through the bootloader. To eliminate that as a possible cause, I found a couple .exe versions to run from my PC.
On the first run, I immediately flashed RezROM and used Amon Ra to install Superuser and SU as you suggested. I updated Superuser and then installed a few basic root apps: Titanium Backup, Root Explorer, QuickBoot, Busy Box, Root Checker and Root Validator. There were no issues until I starting using those root apps. I was periodically rebooting and it wasn't until I updated Busybox and ran TBU and Root Explorer that the "Android is upgrading..." message came back. Worse than before, it was doing the "Optomizing apps # through ##" part where before it was just the "upgrading" message. I uninstalled all of them one-by-one but whatever happened was perminant because it didn't go away so I did a full wipe and used the second ICS RUU .exe. On the second run I stayed stock. Again, I used Amon Ra to install Superuser and SU. I updated Superuser and then installed those same basic root apps. So far, no issues.
With these results, it's pretty evident that the problem is ROM related, but not necessarily a bug as much as a compatibility discrepancy. This issue has never been this persistent until the last few months and within that time, there has been several updates for TBU, Root Explorer and Busybox. I agree that switching to a different ROM may be the ultimate solution, but unless there is one that is a RezROM comparable, I'm not ready to write it off just yet. If there's a way to pin point which app is the cause, I might be able to find a workaround or persuade the developer to come up with a fix, I'd much rather try that first.
But again, I'm certainly interested in trying out any ROM suggestions you might have to offer in the meantime.
In the process of trying to nail down this problem, I've discovered that it appears to have something to do with the relationship between superuser and RezROM.
Since I first flashed RezROM, I haven't been able to update superuser or the binary in any way. In addition to downloading from the market, I've tried re-installing superuser with Amon Ra, flashing it from the sdcard in recovery and from adb. No matter how I do it, I either lose root or it shuts down superuser's ability to detect requests from new root apps. I tried to find a solution but had no success so I just decided to ignore it as long as it didn't effect functionality. I've had root app issues here and there but always chalked it up to a bug with that particular app and either found a fix or ditched the app altogether.
I've been able to isolate superuser as the cause of the "upgrading" message issue with several full wipes, RezROM and RUU re-flashes. In my last three attempts to narrow it down, I did completely sterile RUU and RezROM flashes and used Root Explorer and Root Checker as test apps. In each attempt, I lost root and the "upgrading" messages returned as soon as I updated superuser or the binary. I tried doing the same with the stock ROM and with one of the BAMF ROMs and these problems don't occur with either of them.
So, with the "Android is upgrading" message popping up repeatedly, having new stability problems with previously dependable apps and increasing system bugs, it's apparent that the consequences of having such a severely outdated superuser has finally caught up with me. It definitely looks like RezROM is the problem and unless there are some options that I might try to fix it myself, it's up to the developer. I've contacted them but I'm not optimistic that they'll be willing to put any time into coming up with a fix since the Rezound is so "dated".
I had this popup on every boot on my Evo 3D with the stock ICS Sense 3.6 ROM, I still have it on my Rezound with a custom ICS Sense 4.1 ROM. I just assumed it's standard behaviour from Android, why would you think it's an issue if it doesn't cause any problems?

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