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I have read a number of articles dissing the new HTC Flyer base upon it's relatively diminutive size at 7 inches compared to the 10.1 inch competitors.
My only response would be to ask the critics if they have ever tried to hold a 10.1 tablet in one hand while standing and writing with a stylus with the other? Or have they ever tried to hold their tablet in two hands while in portrait mode and type with the keyboard? Or have they ever tried to slip their 10.1 inch tablet into their suit coat pocket?
Right. If I want a 10.1 inch tablet, I will just buy a laptop. If I want a HIGHLY PORTABLE DEVICE which CAPTURES AND NOTATES LIFE ON THE GO, I'll get the Flyer.
The ability to easily grip the Flyer with one hand while navigating, typing or taking notes with the other is not to be underestimated. If you want a tablet just to sit on the coach and surf, get a Transformer, iPad II or any of the other BIG tablets.
Before buying a tablet, ask yourself, what is this really for? What do I want to do withe this that I cannot do with a laptop or netbook? I think if you answer yourself honestly, you will find yourself leaning toward the Flyer.
P.S., Is the Flyer perfect? No, there are a number of things I would change, but what it does, it does well.
No checkerboards when surfing!
One of the features I loved about the Flyer was the fact that I never got any checkerboards on my browser when scrolling quickly. Every other tablet I checked out had terrible checkerboarding.
Also, when you pinch to zoom on the Flyer, text resolves itself immediately. Every other tablet lagged badly before text was crisp again.
I agree with you whole heartedly, it is pathetic the number of reviews where the start of it is about the size. I have a 10" netbook, I don't need another device that is the same size. I can slip this into my back pocket and go on about my business, and no need to carry bag or anything
Whatever though, haters gonna hate I love mine and nobody else is going to change my mind
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Another thing I like is I can type in landscape too and reach all the keys with just my thumbs while holding the tab. Can't do that with a 10".
A huge problem with 10" tabs is that you cannot thumb type. If you want portability the flyer is the best. If you want to browse at home stick to the laptop.
I like the Flyer - I really do. Along with the pen it is a "working man's tablet" second to none. There is only ONE thing keeping me from buying one.
THE PRICE.
When you add the price of the tablet with the pen, you are looking at almost $600 for a single-core tablet. I can pick up an sweet Asus Transformer for $399.00. The $499.00 price tag (and charging extra for the pen) is just NUTS given the competition. At $399.00 (pen included) they would sell 3 times as many of these (if not more).
C'mon HTC, wake up and smell the competition.
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At $399.00 (pen included) they would sell 3 times as many of these (if not more).
C'mon HTC, wake up and smell the competition.
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Yup, that's exactly my price point, too.
The only thing to consider is that Best Buy will sell you the Flyer on an 18 month, no-interest payment schedule if you want. I may go that path if I get impatient. Also, get the Fujitsu sylus that works with the Flyer. B&H has it for $25.00 shipped:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/772804-REG/Fujitsu_FPCPN36AP_Extra_Stylus_for_Fujitsu_s.html
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I understand why many people feel the flyer is expensive. Consider the following reason and think again:
1. HTC Flyer is the only Tablet that has a digitizer on it. The usage is unlimited. The problem is that many android lovers are not developing. We are only "MODing". Creating custom ROMs, etc. I you know what that digitizer can do, in terms of application you will know that having a Flyer is worth all the penny spent.
2. Bestbuy now sells the Flyer to you with the HTC Pen. Just tell them you want the HTC before you pay. Tell them the HTC pen must be included.
3. If you have a working laptop or tablet, you can trade it in at Bestbuy to reduce the cost of any device you buy from Bestbuy.
4. You need to try out the Note app with voice recording on the Flyer. The recording is extremely loud. And also, it is synced with EverNotes.
5. If the Flyer meets your needs, go for it. If not, don't go for it.
There used to be a promotion going on where the pen was free. Just tell them that you weren't available to buy the Flyer when the promotion was going on. They gave me a free pen.
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I like the Flyer - I really do. Along with the pen it is a "working man's tablet" second to none. There is only ONE thing keeping me from buying one.
THE PRICE.
When you add the price of the tablet with the pen, you are looking at almost $600 for a single-core tablet. I can pick up an sweet Asus Transformer for $399.00. The $499.00 price tag (and charging extra for the pen) is just NUTS given the competition. At $399.00 (pen included) they would sell 3 times as many of these (if not more).
C'mon HTC, wake up and smell the competition.
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The price point kind of makes it not really a "working man's tablet", does it not? I'm just joking, just thought it was funny thinking of some carpenter sitting there messing around with his little flyer.
1. Pen is WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY overpriced. That is the truth. I got the view and it came with the pen. Had it not, I wouldn't even consider buying it. I know, that the pen is the single most different thing about the tablet, but in all honestly nobody wants to write on a screen until it feels like pen and paper. Apple knew this, that's why they were the first people to realize that a tablet shouldn't be like the older PC's that could be flipped around and used a stylus on. Apple knows what the AVERAGE consumer wants.
2. Single-core, duo-core, quad-core all that crap, just doesn't need to be focused on nearly as much as people think. The real proof is in the pudding. The thing runs fine, and unless you REALLY plan on seriously playing 3D games what does it matter? Everyone is so obsessed with having the most powerful processor, or best video processing... How much time do you actually spend playing those high demanding games? Maybe 1% of your usage of the tablet? And it's not even that the tablet can't play them, it's just that it won't be as FAST as some crazy tegra 2 thing.
3. The thing is awesome for what it is. I walked into a best buy the other day (just to pick up a 40$ bt dongle I needed for a few days, then I returned it, I'm not a sucker) and was tooling about with two other 7" tabs (the fujitsu and some other one) and they were pretty much garbage. They ran like 100$ cheaper. Over the 1-2 year lifetime of my tablet, 100$ is very little. Especially for a device I use so often...
Anyway, sorry about the long post.
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1. Pen is WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY overpriced. That is the truth. I got the view and it came with the pen. Had it not, I wouldn't even consider buying it. I know, that the pen is the single most different thing about the tablet, but in all honestly nobody wants to write on a screen until it feels like pen and paper. Apple knew this, that's why they were the first people to realize that a tablet shouldn't be like the older PC's that could be flipped around and used a stylus on. Apple knows what the AVERAGE consumer wants.
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I sorta disagree. Not that the pen is overpriced (I'm in full agreement with that statement) but that no one wants to write on a screen 'till it feels like paper. I've played with the Flyer/pen combo in BestBuy, and I want it so bad it hurts, LOL!
Seriously, if not for the pen I'd see no reason to trade for my Nook Color. But the pen turns a Flyer into a viable productivity tool. I can totally see myself taking it with me to meetings or when I have to meet with a supervisor and taking notes.
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I sorta disagree. Not that the pen is overpriced (I'm in full agreement with that statement) but that no one wants to write on a screen 'till it feels like paper. I've played with the Flyer/pen combo in BestBuy, and I want it so bad it hurts, LOL!
Seriously, if not for the pen I'd see no reason to trade for my Nook Color. But the pen turns a Flyer into a viable productivity tool. I can totally see myself taking it with me to meetings or when I have to meet with a supervisor and taking notes.
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You need a Flyer.
I've paid 1000$ to buy it. It deserves because Im using every single option included.
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I sorta disagree. Not that the pen is overpriced (I'm in full agreement with that statement) but that no one wants to write on a screen 'till it feels like paper. I've played with the Flyer/pen combo in BestBuy, and I want it so bad it hurts, LOL!
Seriously, if not for the pen I'd see no reason to trade for my Nook Color. But the pen turns a Flyer into a viable productivity tool. I can totally see myself taking it with me to meetings or when I have to meet with a supervisor and taking notes.
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Prepared to be disappointed.
When you write with a stylus on a tablet (not just the flyer/view but also on all the "convertables" running xp from back in the day) it has lag. You end up writing at 80% speed just from the lag. Add in the fact that you are writing on a tiny surface with a low resolution mark means you can fit all of a sentence and a half on one screen (and that's really being generous).
The notes also lack any of the cool features of onenote. Can't copy and paste a section. It is rather tiresome.
The only really useful thing I think the stylus can add is if you are signing a lot of .pdf's or something.
I major in math and economics and HOPED that I might be able to take notes on the view (I tried this on an older 10" xp tablet a while ago) and was very disappointed.
1. When you record the lecture and write, what the person is saying is drowned out by the clacking of your stylus on the screen.
2. HTC has made 0 improvements on the accuracy and the delay of the writing coming from the stylus. Quite disappointing.
BUT it does all come down to preference. Maybe you are find with these shortcomings in light of the brand new ability to actually write on the thing, which I agree is just plain cool.
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Prepared to be disappointed.
When you write with a stylus on a tablet (not just the flyer/view but also on all the "convertables" running xp from back in the day) it has lag. You end up writing at 80% speed just from the lag. Add in the fact that you are writing on a tiny surface with a low resolution mark means you can fit all of a sentence and a half on one screen (and that's really being generous).
The notes also lack any of the cool features of onenote. Can't copy and paste a section. It is rather tiresome.
The only really useful thing I think the stylus can add is if you are signing a lot of .pdf's or something.
I major in math and economics and HOPED that I might be able to take notes on the view (I tried this on an older 10" xp tablet a while ago) and was very disappointed.
1. When you record the lecture and write, what the person is saying is drowned out by the clacking of your stylus on the screen.
2. HTC has made 0 improvements on the accuracy and the delay of the writing coming from the stylus. Quite disappointing.
BUT it does all come down to preference. Maybe you are find with these shortcomings in light of the brand new ability to actually write on the thing, which I agree is just plain cool.
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Not disappointed at all. This is your personal point of view. I dont agree with you. The pen is accurate fast and u can use it to write notes (like the physical yellow notes) certainly you will not use it to write the human history!
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I agree, though I do not use it at all (even I have enabled the phone features in it s-off), you pay for quality and performance. Another think I like about HTC (I use them from almost 7 years), is the battery. It will last very long...
If anybody interested, I live in Canada and I will be selling it. Let someone enjoy it...
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1. When you record the lecture and write, what the person is saying is drowned out by the clacking of your stylus on the screen.
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Oh, I wouldn't use it to take notes at a lecture. For that it would be inadequate, I agree. But based on my experience playing with it in Best Buy, it should be more than adequate for jotting down a few instructions, perhaps a quick diagram or two.
Many tablets, including the Transformer and Galaxy Tab, have cheap plastic bodies. They don't match the sturdiness, look and feel of the Flyer's aluminum body.
When you consider that, the digitizer for the pen (as already mentioned), and maybe other things, it might be that the Flyer costs more to manufacture, and HTC cannot actually afford to charge less and still maintain a decent margin.
Also, the single core 1.5 GHz CPU is actually faster at most things then the dual core tablets (most of which are 1 GHz). Most applications do not support dual core CPU's yet, so its the raw processing clock speed of one core that counts. The dual core comes into play when multi-tasking, such as running processes in the background and switching between apps. If you compare the Flyer to other tablets, you will find the Flyer is actually snappier and smoother most the time. Honeycomb is inherently laggy at this time, and that's partially to blame. But the single core CPU is part of it, too.
I have to agree that it is a bit expensive but it meets my requirements and I use it all day.
I use Notes in all of my meetings or just to jot things down while walking around campus.
It is nowhere near the feature rich MS OneNote but I hope the next version (if there will be one) incorporates some.
As for speed, I don't see a delay when writing.
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It's expensive cause it's good build quality and it's new. Flyer's hard ware is really good: beautiful screen + ntrig digitizer, 1GB ram, Al body,... And HTC has to pay other companies for patent fees, about $50/smart phone. In addition, mobile device market is so HOT now. Remember that the Galaxy tab was also very expensive when it was released. I think we pay most of that money for things we can't see which related to R&D, marketing,... Chinese stuffs are cheap cause they don't pay for those things and they are crap(py).
However from inking point of view, with the "magic" pen, the Flyer is the best in market right now (do not consider Windows devices which are bulky and power hungry). But at the end, thinking about $500-700 laptops, we are definitely overcharged for Flyers. Still love them though.
Don't forget Sense. I think they put a considerable amount of time and money into Sense to make HTC devices distinguishable.
I'm not a huge fan of Sense, but I think the average consumer likes the clean look, and you can only get Sense with HTC, so they can charge more.
I sometimes think it is wise that HTC spends so much time on their UI because that's what the consumer notices.
damn Dollar... i paid 650€ (Germany)for mine -> 950$ ... early adopter
What is wrong with American electronics prices?
Everyting half the price, as else where in the world.
But... still complaing
Maybe its the sign, for a drowning America... low prices are a result of peoples earnings and how much they can afford...
Looks like, they cant afford average world market prices anymore
So before you complain, compare world prices... thank the Germans, Russians Indonesians, Polish, Hispanics, Canadians... even guys in India and Africa that they can afford to subsidy your low priced gadgets through their up to 3 times higher prices... (worst is Dell/Alienware)
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But... still complaing
Maybe its the sign, for a drowning America... low prices are a result of peoples earnings and how much they can afford...
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Gosh I don't really think so. I think its because things have ALWAYS been cheaper here than overseas. It might also depend on sales volume. There are a lot of people in the US vs some European countries. It perhaps cheaper to market/sell products here vs some more bureaucratic nations. But thats just my guess.
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Thank the Germans, Russians Indonesians, Polish, Hispanics, Canadians... even guys in India and Africa that they can afford to subsidy your low priced gadgets through their up to 3 times higher prices... (worst is Dell/Alienware)
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So TRUE. And check the oil price, price of almost everything too (of course we have a bit higher tax here in Europe).
The whole world (especially developing countries) is "subsidizing" the US market. Not so much for us in Europe. But we are "trying hard" now to have subsidy from Africa, Asia, Middle East. LOL.
It is cheaper to ship in the U.S. because fuel prices are lower than Europe. We still produce much of our own fuel. Taxes are lower in the U.S.. The number of consumers with disposable income is higher in the U.S.. The highway infrastructure in the U.S. is better than most European countries.
Sum that all up and we get cheaper prices on most consumer goods.
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Hi,
I bought this Sony Tablet S last weekend with the idea that I would try it and return it. I also bought a Motorola Xoom with the same intentions. I wasn't really able to try the Tablet S because everytime I picked up the device in the store the anti-theft alarm would sound. The salesperson reluctantly admitted I could take it back if I didn't like it, I usually don't this kind of thing as I prefer to wait and buy online cheaper.
Anyways it's been a week. My heart was set on getting an Xoom, I like Motorola but the screen quality... I don't want one even though I found two used for $300 with accessories.
So on to the Tablet S... I kept going back and forth on it. My biggest gripe is that this will be worth $200 in a year and it may even be completely out of date as Tablets mature.
The things I like about it:
- Durable! I plan on having this in my bedroom, I can fall asleep with it in the bed and I highly doubt I'd break it. Same for carrying it around the house, it doesn't need any kind of case.
- The Shape. It is decent to hold and it really does work well at a table. The angle makes viewing and typing a lot better.
- It's a Sony. I like Sony, I just hope they actually support this device unlike that piece of junk Sony Dash I foolishly bought last year.
- The remote feature. It's not near as advanced as I would like but the software is "Version 1.0". I'm hoping it progresses and becomes more advanced with "activities". I don't mind the layout at all, I think the buttons look good. The one thing I find is that it could be faster in switching between devices.
- The screen. I like that it's 9.4" as this gives you more pixels per inch than a 10.1" display resulting in a sharper image. The viewing angles are good, but I have to admit.. I do wish Sony put an even better quality screen in. I don't think I would want to read a book on this device. By the way the 9.4" screen is easier to reach with your fingers but it's less appealing to the eyes, that extra 1/2" does make a difference in screen "real estate".
- I like the charge system. I don't have a dock yet, it's ordered but I like the fact it just drops in and easily lifts out. I could see all the other tablets docks requiring more effort to align and slide in/out of their respective docks.
- The Sony tweaks to the Android OS. I like them, I just hope it's not a drawback... waiting for Sony each time a new version is available.
- The Sony games. I don't game much anymore but it's a welcome addition for me.
- The HD Remote. Man, I wish I waited six more months before buying my XBR-LX900. This years models seem to have a better integration with this tablet.
- I like the fact that it's user serviceable. The battery can be changed and a 3G/4G card can be inserted.
What I don't like:
- The screen. Another 1/2" would be more visually appealing. The colors could pop more and I wish it was better on the eyes for reading. One day I suppose, for now I'll be keeping my Sony eReader.
- It's looks. At times I like the way it looks, at other times... I think it looks / feels cheap. But mind you, it's very durable the way it is. I wouldn't hesitate to allow a child to play with it.
- The price. Way over-priced for what it is! I suppose all tablets are though, but at least Motorola has style. I like the looks and feel of the Motorola build much better.
- Weight... it is a touch heavy even though this is suppose to be one of the lighter tablets. Just imagine in five years the tablets we will have?
- The charge cord. If you don't use a dock (which should come with it!!!) that charge cord is going to break.
- And again lastly.. this isn't really a knock on Sony but I honestly feel it's too early to spend this kind of money on this types of hardware. Tablets are in their infancy, none of them are worth what we are paying for them. Honestly I think most tablets really should be priced at $199 or $299 for what they are. $499 is just.... too much money for what it is.
Anyways for me, I've decided to keep the Tablet S even though I know I will regret it in six months. I need a new alarm clock, I'd like to be able to convienantly check things from my bedroom and I would like to experiment with Android... so here I am.
I see the Tablet S as having a long life with me for it's simple durability. I don't have to baby it, it'll serve well for what it is. A portable household browser / email device. I don't think of this Tablet as something you would take out with you. For that I will mostly likely get a second or third generation Motorola.
I am also a proud owner of the Sony Tablet. This review is very well said.. can't disagree.. you should post this review in sites like Amazon.
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dberladyn said:
So on to the Tablet S... I kept going back and forth on it. My biggest gripe is that this will be worth $200 in a year and it may even be completely out of date as Tablets mature.
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This unfortunately is always the case with tech, once the Kal-El (quad core Tegras) come out you'll see price drops on the dual core ones. Doesnt mean your tablet is going to become useless though just you wont be state of the art anymore
- The screen. I like that it's 9.4" as this gives you more pixels per inch than a 10.1" display resulting in a sharper image. The viewing angles are good, but I have to admit.. I do wish Sony put an even better quality screen in. I don't think I would want to read a book on this device. By the way the 9.4" screen is easier to reach with your fingers but it's less appealing to the eyes, that extra 1/2" does make a difference in screen "real estate".
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Really? I absolutely love reading on my S tab, the display is sharp and clear.
- The screen. Another 1/2" would be more visually appealing. The colors could pop more and I wish it was better on the eyes for reading. One day I suppose, for now I'll be keeping my Sony eReader.
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I agree on this, wish the colors did pop a bit more something in between S tablet and Galaxy would have been nice. And yeah the thing I hate most is the charging connector, everytime I plug it in I feel like its going to break. Guess Ill have to buy a dock as well.
Yeah I agree, it's totally overpriced, the cost of the case is ridiculous too... but, that's Sony for ya.
I also have a wifi Xoom and think it's a piece of junk compared to the S, and most other HC tablets out there. It's laggy and the screen is so washed out and bland. The Sony S flips through screens so smoothly, gives a nice tablet experience.
Damn... my country still haven't release Sony Tablet S... ARGHH!!!.... my don't they just do global release...
Yeah Sony product is expensive but GOODD!!!
tbh go save your money or spend it on something worth the money like the Jetstream or the Ipad2.
Tablet S just does not compare. In every single way my jetstream was better, so I ended up returning the TS.
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tbh go save your money or spend it on something worth the money like the Jetstream or the Ipad2.
Tablet S just does not compare. In every single way my jetstream was better, so I ended up returning the TS.
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Dude. Enough with the jetsream already! Its all you talk about. No offense. But go get a jetstream, and post in their forums.
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Maedhros said:
tbh go save your money or spend it on something worth the money like the Jetstream or the Ipad2.
Tablet S just does not compare. In every single way my jetstream was better, so I ended up returning the TS.
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The Jetstream blows.
What do you guys think of the Amazon Fire and Nook tablet? I've almost jumped on a Nook Color a couple times just cause of the price. I think both are priced to sell tons and probably are going to embarrass the "real" android tablets in terms of quantity sold.
I'm leaning towards the Nook Tablet just because of the better specs microphone(I love my voice search) and SD card. Also word on the street is that the bootloader and boot from SD is unchanged from the original Nook Color.
My only real worry about both of them is a lack of cameras, but I already have lots of cameras on my Evo 3D anyways.
Hi! The Fire looks really nice and amazon's ecosystem will probably be awesome. But without removable media/storage, custom roms are going to be a pain to load and test.
Im going for the fire because i have a ton of their "free app of the day" apps and their market actually has a decent selection. That and its $50 less.
Can they make telephone calls?
No, they are not made to make telephone calls. I'm sure you can probably get an app to use the Wifi to make calls but you can't load your SIM card and make phone calls with your cell #. There's always like Tango or Skype. You can probably use Groove IP with Google Voice to make calls.
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What do you guys think of the Amazon Fire and Nook tablet? I've almost jumped on a Nook Color a couple times just cause of the price. I think both are priced to sell tons and probably are going to embarrass the "real" android tablets in terms of quantity sold.
I'm leaning towards the Nook Tablet just because of the better specs microphone(I love my voice search) and SD card. Also word on the street is that the bootloader and boot from SD is unchanged from the original Nook Color.
My only real worry about both of them is a lack of cameras, but I already have lots of cameras on my Evo 3D anyways.
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Drew, you've answered pretty much every question yourself...
Get the Nook.
It'll CRUSH the Amazon tablet in the short run, the long run, and the whatever run.
The original NC has unparalleled dev support, and this one will be no different.
Bet your ass it'll have ICS ported for it ASAP.
(Install the Amazon Market on that Nook Tablet as soon as you have it rooted (so, like Day One....) and laugh every morning as you get ANOTHER 'Free App of the Day' from Amazon on your Nook.)
<<work in progress>>
I definitely want a tablet of some sort soon. I have a tablet PC that makes school a dream. If I can get a tablet that you can use an inductive stylus, or even a really amazing capacitive stylus I might be able to settle for that, but it would have to be pretty amazing to replace the PC. Then I would just get a PC laptop that is cheap I could completely replace the tablet PC. I honestly believe we are not too far off from seeing the Android and iPad tablets replace laptops if they continue to pack more power and the software replaces the laptops software.
The price of these tablets are so dirt cheap, the only thing that will keep them from expanding into what laptops are today is the types of software available for the tablets.
I will always prefer the tablet that has at least a ten inch screen. The 7 inch is too small. The evo 3D is an example of the power even micro architecture can accomplish, so moving from a 4.3 inch screen to 7 inch isn't enough to make me put down my evo for a few minutes to use the tablet. Now, a ten inch + screen would be different.
I 2nd the nook. It is only 50 more. And it is worth it.
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I definitely want a tablet of some sort soon. I have a tablet PC that makes school a dream. If I can get a tablet that you can use an inductive stylus, or even a really amazing capacitive stylus I might be able to settle for that, but it would have to be pretty amazing to replace the PC. Then I would just get a PC laptop that is cheap I could completely replace the tablet PC. I honestly believe we are not too far off from seeing the Android and iPad tablets replace laptops if they continue to pack more power and the software replaces the laptops software.
The price of these tablets are so dirt cheap, the only thing that will keep them from expanding into what laptops are today is the types of software available for the tablets.
I will always prefer the tablet that has at least a ten inch screen. The 7 inch is too small. The evo 3D is an example of the power even micro architecture can accomplish, so moving from a 4.3 inch screen to 7 inch isn't enough to make me put down my evo for a few minutes to use the tablet. Now, a ten inch + screen would be different.
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Meh i don't know about replacing laptops no cd drives yet which suck can't copy cds to the hard drive and max space is 64 gigs still not enough space I think. And no plug n play support really. I know some have usb but do they support external 3.0 3tb hdd?
I'd also take a bluray drive in it...
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You also get $25 off the Nook if you are a B&N member. If you aren't then you can get the membership for $25 and take advantage of all the deals. I just used 2x25% off coupons today + 10% extra with my membership. Very good deals.
Not worth it. 200 dollars ill just buy a HP touchpad for that price.
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You also get $25 off the Nook if you are a B&N member. If you aren't then you can get the membership for $25 and take advantage of all the deals. I just used 2x25% off coupons today + 10% extra with my membership. Very good deals.
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Thanks! Thats a added free(kinda) bonus if I get the Nook. How often do you get the coupons and does that 10% count towards ebooks or emagazines?
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Thanks! Thats a added free(kinda) bonus if I get the Nook. How often do you get the coupons and does that 10% count towards ebooks or emagazines?
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Around the holidays it seems like weekly, but during the off season it's a monthly thing. The lowest coupon I've ever gotten was 10% and the highest was 40% off. Then you get your member discount as well. So on the lowest side its 20% off.
I had the nook, it's a incredible little thing with a lot of bang for the buck. I still have my other tablets and all they are to me are web surfing/ebook extensions. The apps are on the iPad, the openness is in android, non of them fits a all in one item as a laptop/desktop. I'm waiting for windows to come out for these tablets and the new kal-el tablets. Transformer will be the first, unless it's rootable, I will skip it...and go else where. For you, the nook hands down will be a winner..price, performance and most important...developer support.
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I had the nook, it's a incredible little thing with a lot of bang for the buck. I still have my other tablets and all they are to me are web surfing/ebook extensions. The apps are on the iPad, the openness is in android, non of them fits a all in one item as a laptop/desktop. I'm waiting for windows to come out for these tablets and the new kal-el tablets. Transformer will be the first, unless it's rootable, I will skip it...and go else where. For you, the nook hands down will be a winner..price, performance and most important...developer support.
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Win 8 tablets are a while off, I do think they are going to be a real contender in the tablet wars.
The transformer prime is going to be sweet but at twice the price, and the larger size it would make more sense to just get a laptop. I already have two so a third would be a waste.
I think the $150-$250 price point is the sweet spot for tablets. Especially for something I'm going to carry around and could get easily get smashed.
BTW I'm talking about the new nook tablet, it sounded like you were referring to the old nook color. Which even though it was alright it really couldn't be as competitive as it needed. The new one is baddass enough to be really good.
why in the world did you buy a tablet to begin with? im sure most xda members have at least 2 computers in the home.
these tablets are kinda a useless toy more than anything LOL.
personally i have 1 main laptop, 2 extra laptops (one running linux that i have no clue about and another with no power cord and no idea if it even works (got them for free from an abandonded house) and 2 desktops and one of them is in the garage thats used mostly for resarch on vehicle repairs...this tablet is kinda just a extra toy but since these hp touchpads were 100 bucks on black friday locally i snagged 2 of them (one as a gift for the 12 year old) and one for me as it may be easier to use when working on my car instead of using a laptop which is bigger....which was really the only reason why i think i would use it...pictures and wiring diagrams and web searches related to it and at a 100 bucks for a good powerful unit it makes sense if it gets a little greasy or dirty lol.
what was your reason for getting a tablet? just another geek toy or for a real purpose. for my wife these tablets are almost useless in terms of productivity as these programs are for entertainment and games more than business at least for real estate anyways.
im just curious what the hype is over these things
Because laptops suck for mobile computing, they take forever to startup and the battery is something you always have to be conscious of. With a tablet I can have access to my calendar, the web, games, music, video, maps and pictures wherever I go.
My phone is too under powered and screen to too small for it to be much of use other than taking and placing calls.
My tablet is much more than a toy, I use it to configure routers and lookup solutions to computing issues, I have remote surveillance camera apps, remote desktop apps, FTP, email, etc...
The Touchpad is turning out to be one of the best and most practical purchases I've ever made.
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I have remote surveillance camera apps, remote desktop apps
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got my attention on those! care to share details what you have?
I got a touchpad to replace my aging netbook. Its for use in bed while watching TV. I have a few computers too, but most of the time all I want is web browsing.
We constantly use that netbook and the battery has broken twice now, this time out of warranty. So all we want is a compact long lasting web browsing experience. I want something bigger than my phone. Enter the tablet.
Heres the long story: I had actually forgotten the Touchpad and didn't know the full specs. On Thanksgiving day I had a kindle Fire in my Amazon cart, waiting to see if by some miracle on black Friday they would discount the new device. I mentioned this to a friend, and he suggested the Touchpad. After some research I knew that's what I really wanted. I liked webOS, but not a pre, I wanted 10" screen, but not for $500, I wanted quality product, not the crap you see all over for $100. Again I was ready to pull the trigger on a touchpad at $229 on eBay. The same friend told me about a black Friday ad for a furniture store not known for electronics, touchpad for $99. So I stood in the freezing cold for hours, just to be one of the first to not get one. I managed to get one on the way home for $195. I happily paid that price. Its still cheaper than a new netbook. (I know a battery is cheaper, but I don't want to keep getting batteries)
Now its on my shelf waiting for Christmas, taunting me each day. I am thoroughly excited to give webOS another try. And the icing on the cake is CM7 or ICS or Windows 8.
Just like people use computers for different things, myself I would not bring a computer or tablet into the garage for car repairs, I can't afford to risk breaking something that costs $200. For that I have a $10 haynes manual. With my phone I could easily give up one big feature: the ability to make phone calls. I use <100 minutes a month, but I use 700+ texts, and 7GB of data. Everyone has their own usage habits. For me the touchpad looks perfect.
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got my attention on those! care to share details what you have?
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Remote desktop:
2x Client
androidVNC
Splashtop
Remote camera viewing:
IP Cam viewer lite
SuperCam_Pro
tinyCam Monitor
Also I use Google Voice, so I can review my voice mails and text from my tablet.
I have an iPhone 4S, HP TouchPad, Alienware M15x laptop and a custom made desktop with watercooling and I asked myself this very same question. Then I realized that I have one for reading books and browsing the internet easily without having to really worry about battery power. My laptop is a big and bulky gaming laptop and it's just not the right thing to take everywhere I go. It has it's place but for somewhere I just want to read a book or do some light browsing/Facebook/Twitter, my tablet almost always gets priority. This might change a little when I buy a Macbook Air next year (since it's small, thin and very light) but probably not too much unless I want to do something like play an online game or do some programming.
It's kinda wierd when you say that getting 1 tablet is a useless toy when you have 3 laptops (1 main, 1 linux [that you don't know how to use], and 1 dead/powercord-less) and 2 desktops.
The one tablet will replace your 2 extra laptop + one of your other desktops (if you feel the need to have 1 dedicated laptop and desktop.
But in essence, it's simply because startup time is instantaneous. It does all the basic functions that you would do when you are outside. It lasts longer (my laptop lasts 2-4 hours depending on how much i screw with it.) and ofcourse, it's much much much smaller therefore more portable and less to set up.
I personally thought I had no use for a tablet as well, but when I finally got one, it actually allowed me to go in and out of places faster and without hassle as compared to opening up my laptop, waiting for it to start up, and after i'm done using, wait for it to shut down.
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why in the world did you buy a tablet to begin with?
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Bought it to play with, now that I have it my 17" laptop and my 12" netbook are hardly ever switched on. It's not something you can really understand until you try it for yourself.
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I have an iPhone 4S, HP TouchPad, Alienware M15x laptop and a custom made desktop with watercooling and I asked myself this very same question. Then I realized that I have one for reading books and browsing the internet easily without having to really worry about battery power. My laptop is a big and bulky gaming laptop and it's just not the right thing to take everywhere I go. It has it's place but for somewhere I just want to read a book or do some light browsing/Facebook/Twitter, my tablet almost always gets priority. This might change a little when I buy a Macbook Air next year (since it's small, thin and very light) but probably not too much unless I want to do something like play an online game or do some programming.
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I'm in the same boat with the behemoth gaming laptop (asus g73)....it's powerful for running games and my engineering programmes but not as portable and quick to access as a tablet, especially when with the HP touchpad i can remote access the laptop ...for £115 i won't argue on it's merits
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Like others, I bought mine to (somewhat) replace my laptop. Its far ligher, smaller, gets slightly better battery life in Android and far better battery life in webOS. Its great for web surfing and email. I'm really hoping a decent office suite shows up soon, but for now Quickoffice is ok. Remote desktop sounds like it would be great but I can never get them configured right so they've always been unusable sluggish for me.
Paired with a bluetooth keyboard and the right software, a tablet can be an amazing productivity device.
I also got the Touchpad to replace my laptop for books and internet. My experience is like others, the battery life and small size (relatively) are what got me. It also works well for the kids when we go on trips. It is much easier to get out the TP than the laptop in the car. I am completely satisfied with my purchases.
On top of just liking tablets, I keep vpn and RDP clients on it so I always have access to my servers at work, as well as the security cameras there.
Also, it's funny you say all tabs are useless, and then name all these useless PC's around your house, lol.
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I got my tab to replace my dying laptop, temporarily. I picked up a TouchPad partly because of price, and partly to try webOS. My plan was, and still is, to get an ultrabook next year and the TP is doing a great job bridging the gap I needed.
Depending on how well linux will run natively on one, I may not need to get a laptop at all.
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Media, annoying bringing my laptop to work sometimes.
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I just wanted to be cool
Seriously though, I always wanted a more portable laptop (ie. a touchscreen tablet). It's just very intuitive. Yes, it's kind of redundant if you have both a laptop and a smartphone already, but even a few inches of screen real estate can make a big difference. The TP or any tablet is great as an e-reader and general purpose web browser or media viewer. You can also do light gaming too. They work well to read or surf the internet laying in bed or while sitting on the couch. Basically, to me they kind of replace netbooks. I couldn't see using one as your only computer, but as a 2nd or 3rd machine, they're convenient.
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I just wanted to be cool
Seriously though, I always wanted a more portable laptop (ie. a touchscreen tablet). It's just very intuitive. Yes, it's kind of redundant if you have both a laptop and a smartphone already, but even a few inches of screen real estate can make a big difference. The TP or any tablet is great as an e-reader and general purpose web browser or media viewer. You can also do light gaming too. They work well to read or surf the internet laying in bed or while sitting on the couch. Basically, to me they kind of replace netbooks. I couldn't see using one as your only computer, but as a 2nd or 3rd machine, they're convenient.
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This is exactly how I feel. The tablet to me fills that hole between computer and phone. I have a 4.3" phone, plenty big, but the 10" seems perfect for lap use. I don't need USB ports for peripherals, for that I have my laptop (that I use a desktop).
The touchstone dock is very tempting for me. To be able to just set it down when done, and not fumble for cords seems like the perfect use case.
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I found that I was using my laptop, which at the time was my only computer, pretty much only for e-mail and web browsing and thought that a tablet would be useful, but paying $600 for a Xoom (which I really wanted) wasn't very appealing. So when I found out about the firesale on day 1 I went to Wal-mart (no luck) and then my local Staples (32GB score!). I used it for about two weeks and found I never used my laptop in that time period. So I sold my laptop for $750.
In that same time period I bought a new Alienware Aurora R3 desktop which fulfills my "real computer" needs, which other than gaming are few and far between since I can't take my work home and I'm done with school permanently (MS is enough for me).
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I found that I was using my laptop, which at the time was my only computer, pretty much only for e-mail and web browsing and thought that a tablet would be useful, but paying $600 for a Xoom (which I really wanted) wasn't very appealing. So when I found out about the firesale on day 1 I went to Wal-mart (no luck) and then my local Staples (32GB score!). I used it for about two weeks and found I never used my laptop in that time period. So I sold my laptop for $750.
In that same time period I bought a new Alienware Aurora R3 desktop which fulfills my "real computer" needs, which other than gaming are few and far between since I can't take my work home and I'm done with school permanently (MS is enough for me).
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Kinda the same story here.... within a few months I went from a 12" iBook and dumphone, to a big smartphone, tablet and 17" gaming laptop
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This is exactly how I feel. The tablet to me fills that hole between computer and phone. I have a 4.3" phone, plenty big, but the 10" seems perfect for lap use. I don't need USB ports for peripherals, for that I have my laptop (that I use a desktop).
The touchstone dock is very tempting for me. To be able to just set it down when done, and not fumble for cords seems like the perfect use case.
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The touchstone is pretty cool. It's nice to not have to futz with a power cord, and at least on my TP, the microUSB port is a little finicky so I have to angle cords to get them in. That said, the 3.0.4 update changed something with the Touchstone sensitivity, so I can no longer charge with the HP case on it and the flap folded back, like I used to. Otherwise it seems ok. At this point I could definitely live without the TS, but it is nice for grab'n'go usage.
First off, we can all agree that laptops are too clunky and short batter life for what 90% of us all do: e-mail, web browse (facebook, google+, ebay, etc) , watch videos, watch netflix, light gaming (some with Flash). I used to use my HTC EVO 4G to do all that stuff, but with such small screen it wasn't the best. If I were stuck on an Island, I wouldn't hesitate to bring my phone as my primary device. But, the future happened and now we have tablets. They don't do what laptops/netbooks do, but they do what 90% of us do with much longer batter life and being less clunky. I wouldn't have thought about it, but I use my tablet about 80-90% of the time while I'm at home. I just turn my laptop on to do programming or major gaming. Otherwise, there would be no easier way to re-watch all of DS9 on Netflix if it were not for my tablet. It is very easy to read while on the couch, laying outside in the yard, before going to bed, right after waking up in the morning, or in the restroom.
I got my HP TouchPad for $99, and even though the Asus Tranformer Prime is around the corner and I want it, I can't justify spending a couple of hundred of dollars for what I already have.
Summary: Get a tablet, you won't regret it.
I tried to figure out what the big deal is myself....then I got one.
For 99, I think I have the best of everything for the price.
Sure this device could have expansion slots, Back Facing camera, etc.
But I don't go plunk down Chevy money and expect a Cadillac...
A lot of us use Email, browse the web and look at forums, Facebook, pictures.
This device does this perfectly...
Battery lasts forever compared to most laptops, and about 1/4 the weight/thickness on average.
WebOS' built in VPN client actually works out of the box connecting to work with my older Cisco VPN hardware (Concentrator...not ASA series)
Now that WebOS has a good Remote Desktop Client (I use Splashtop, but I'm not putting the streamer on my servers, etc.) it is very useful for work.
As long as I have a WiFi connection (which...I have a T-bolt...tethering) it is a great resource for work.
Would I type out a novel on it? No....a LONG drawn out email? no...
If you got a TP at or near firesale prices, IMO...you got the holy grail of 2011 in geekdom.