Quick question about bootloader - HTC EVO 3D

So from what i've been reading is that we cant root yet because of the locked bootloader. Is this what s-on, s-off is? Because my htc hero is s-on right now and its rooted and flashed to cyanogen. So what am i missing that i dont understand? Thanks for all the help

bavman said:
So from what i've been reading is that we cant root yet because of the locked bootloader. Is this what s-on, s-off is? Because my htc hero is s-on right now and its rooted and flashed to cyanogen. So what am i missing that i dont understand? Thanks for all the help
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There are a couple of different ways to root.....As was the case with our beloved heros we had temp root, which allowed us to flash recovery and custom roms and only after that were we able to get access to the bootloader.
The other way of rooting is to go through the bootloader and use it to flash recovery, and then flash a pre-rooted rom.
2 Methods, same result.

Cool thanks for clarifying.
I remember when i was rooting my hero i had to push some files to my phone using command prompt in windows. And we cant us that for our evos? Is it just a case of someone actually coming along and making an image to flash?

A boot loader is a little section of code that starts up and will load a section of the software that loads other sections of software and so on..now..this boot loader is encrypted and has a certain electronic signature that must be there to let it go on and load the rest of the program..kernel..drivers....and so on. Root is different..it is elevation of privileges to parts of the programs. We can still have root even with a locked boot loader. It just means we cannot flash custom roms with different items on it.

bavman said:
Cool thanks for clarifying.
I remember when i was rooting my hero i had to push some files to my phone using command prompt in windows. And we cant us that for our evos? Is it just a case of someone actually coming along and making an image to flash?
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We could if we had temporary root access....That would allow us to make the /system files read/write. Then you would be able to push the recovery files from ADB as you did with the Hero.

Related

H-Boot 1.49.0018

Ok, did have my phone rooted but one of the ROM's on here managed to cause problems so installed one of the factory HTC ROM's to unroot it and put it back should I need to send it to HTC to fix.
So after putting the stock HTC ROM on when I enter recovery mode it is now teling me that the handset is locked (bootloader is presume) also the it is still showing S-OFF.
It is showing the following so if someone can explain to a noob how to re-root it that would be fantastic.
SHOOTER_U PUT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT - 1.49.0018
RADIO-10.14.9020.06_M
eMMC-boot
Oct 3 2011,15:03:01
Any help is really appreciated as there is some really cool looking ROM's that I would like to try.
So, over 80 views and no-one has an answer for this?!
ratedr75 said:
Ok, did have my phone rooted but one of the ROM's on here managed to cause problems so installed one of the factory HTC ROM's to unroot it and put it back should I need to send it to HTC to fix.
So after putting the stock HTC ROM on when I enter recovery mode it is now teling me that the handset is locked (bootloader is presume) also the it is still showing S-OFF.
It is showing the following so if someone can explain to a noob how to re-root it that would be fantastic.
SHOOTER_U PUT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT - 1.49.0018
RADIO-10.14.9020.06_M
eMMC-boot
Oct 3 2011,15:03:01
Any help is really appreciated as there is some really cool looking ROM's that I would like to try.
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ratedr75 said:
So, over 80 views and no-one has an answer for this?!
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Wow .. so originally you had an older hboot and used revolutionary to set s-off. Then you loaded a newer RUU which contained an hboot that was patched against revolutionary's s-off method.
Now you're on a newer hboot patched against revolutionary's s-off method, but you're still set s-off from previously using their method.
Don't see this situation very often. According to the theory, of how unrevoked set s-off and how I assume revolutionary is similar, you should still be s-off, as your bootloader shows, meaning your internal memory is NOT write protected.
In order to root your device, you should be able to fastboot flash a custom recovery. Boot into the custom recovery and load the normal superuser .zip or manually over adb push an su binary (I prefer aosp for developers) and chmod 4755 /system/bin/su . Both of those methods should give you root!
Hope that helps!
So if I install another ROM and try to goto recovery mode (which at the moment I am getting the triangle when I enter) I should be able to re-root this?
joeykrim said:
Wow .. so originally you had an older hboot and used revolutionary to set s-off. Then you loaded a newer RUU which contained an hboot that was patched against revolutionary's s-off method.
Now you're on a newer hboot patched against revolutionary's s-off method, but you're still set s-off from previously using their method.
Don't see this situation very often. According to the theory, of how unrevoked set s-off and how I assume revolutionary is similar, you should still be s-off, as your bootloader shows, meaning your internal memory is NOT write protected.
In order to root your device, you should be able to fastboot flash a custom recovery. Boot into the custom recovery and load the normal superuser .zip or manually over adb push an su binary (I prefer aosp for developers) and chmod 4755 /system/bin/su . Both of those methods should give you root!
Hope that helps!
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ratedr75 said:
So if I install another ROM and try to goto recovery mode (which at the moment I am getting the triangle when I enter) I should be able to re-root this?
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I've quoted my previous post to highlight the steps outlined. I never mentioned anything about another ROM.
If the theory holds, as it was true for unrevoked's method of s-off and some members of unrevoked are now part of AlphaRevX releasing the revolutionary tool, you only need to flash a custom recovery through fastboot or bootloader.
If you have adb setup, it would literally take you 10 seconds to issue the fastboot command and another 10 seconds to reboot into recovery to see if t worked.
Currently, when you boot into recovery and you see the triangle, that is the stock recovery. Sometimes on the stock recovery screen, if you want to activate the menu, pressing vol up + pwr *should* work in stock recovery but sometimes manf like HTC change this function in the version of recovery they distribute.
Once you use the command: fastboot flash recovery c:\android\cwm-recovery.img , you should be able to boot into recovery and see the custom recovery load.
If that method doesnt work, the other method to attempt is loading a PG86IMG.zip file on the root of the sdcard with the custom recovery inside the PG86IMG.zip. Upon booting into the bootloader, it should scan this file and ask to update. If you select yes to update, the bootloader should flash and you should have a custom recovery.
If neither of those two methods work, you'll likely have to use the HTC unlock method. But I think those methods should work as your device still shows S-OFF.
Good luck!
Have tried all your methods and various other ones.
None of them work at all, a lot of the people on here seem to think that eveyrone has their abilities.
I could get an ADB shell up, the CMD prompt didn't work either.
The phone is going in its box and i'd rather spend some money on a phone that is easier to work with a windows 7 laptop.
ratedr75 said:
Have tried all your methods and various other ones.
None of them work at all, a lot of the people on here seem to think that eveyrone has their abilities.
I could get an ADB shell up, the CMD prompt didn't work either.
The phone is going in its box and i'd rather spend some money on a phone that is easier to work with a windows 7 laptop.
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The issues you're experiencing are due to HTC's complex locking method to deter root access. There are many Android devices which come stock with no locking protection or must less sophisticated locking protection.
If you're not able to properly setup adb, then the PG86IMG.zip method should be more convenient for you. All you need to do is put a PG86IMG.zip file onto the root (main dir) of your sdcard and holding vol down + pwr (boot into the bootloader). From here, it will scan the PG86IMG.zip and prompt if you want to load. Choose yes and this will flash the custom recovery.
Once the custom recovery is loaded, you should be able to flash a rooted ROM from, flash superuser .zip file or adb push su binary to restore root.
HTC intentionally makes this process difficult and it is relatively more difficult than other Android devices. All the resources are here at your disposal but HTC requires a bit more work/effort/learning to accomplish what is easier on some other Android devices. Although, even the Google Nexus S requires using fastboot to unlock t he device.
Nobody wants to see anybody give up and abandon. Hope that helps!
for whatever reason on the evo 3D, fastboot commands for things like flashing a recovery don't seem to work even with s-off. You need to put the custom recovery in a zip and name it PG86IMG then flash it from the bootloader and it will work.
fyi you should always be able to run a stock RUU (even new ones) because Revolutionary for the evo 3D gave you actual radio s-off and not just fake s-off with a patched hboot which is how Revolutionary worked on most phones. radio s-off pretty much means your phone will never go back to s-on even with a stock RUU. that is why you were able to upgrade the hboot and still keep s-off.
Thanks for the help guys. I'm going to give this one last try before I got and invest in an xperia arc s.
Does anyone have a decent download for the PG86IMG.zip file?
Ill try this at lunch, if not its away it goes.
patrick92260 said:
for whatever reason on the evo 3D, fastboot commands for things like flashing a recovery don't seem to work even with s-off.
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fastboot commands don't work on the EVO 3D? even for recovery?
I haven't seen this complaint on the Q&A board. Majority of users seem to have plenty of success using fastboot to flash kernels and custom recoveries. Although, majority of people posting on the Q&A board recently have the latest hboot and can only use HTC's unlock method. Perhaps this is only an issue on revolutionary s-off devices?
ratedr75 said:
Thanks for the help guys. I'm going to give this one last try before I got and invest in an xperia arc s.
Does anyone have a decent download for the PG86IMG.zip file?
Ill try this at lunch, if not its away it goes.
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I went to google.com and typed in the phrase, "twrp PG86IMG.zip" and the second link looks to be the quickest to obtaining the file:
http://teamw.in/project/twrp/67
I have heard pretty decent reports of Sony being fairly support of developers and allowing their devices to be unlocked and rooted.
Good Luck!
Thanks guys. Again. Now would anyone be interested in purchasing the EVO 3D GSM sim free from myself?
hi I am in the same position as the OP, just got my phone 2nd hand..want to flash LeeDroids Rom, my phone is GSM version, please advise how to get custom recovery..thanks

Big Issue [regards to rooting]

I did the HTC Dev Bootloader Unlock;I installed custom recovery; and I installed a rom via fastboot that had everything....... including the hacked 1.05 hboot now i keep getting boot loop and forsome reason even though the bootloader says ***UNLOCKED***" at the top; it still says S-on.... any help?
Sorry I don't know the answer but maybe you'd get a quicker and better response in the Rooting thread in the Dev section.
Did you downgrade the software if it was @ the most current OTA version?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1401959
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yeah from .9 to .5 then unlocked bootloader
smtom said:
Did you downgrade the software if it was @ the most current OTA version?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1401959
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You install (flash) the super user app?
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You downgraded and then you unlocked the bootloader? Had never heard of doing any phone in that order
FWIK and from my personal experience with HTCDEV unlock is that you will never have S-Off, not without an Eng-HBoot. Hacked HBoot's and other exploits can help gain it but "S-On" is in reference to a security feature in relation to the kernel and recovery partition, it was a safety measure to (in theory) keep you from bricking your phone by flashing an unstable kernel on it through recovery mode and possibly being unable to restore your previous nand by effing your recovery up. That is a simplified explanation and not all the reasons but you get the idea. I hope you can get it fixed. Best way to try to fix it is to go back and start from the beginning with just getting an Eng-HBoot or a hacked one that will allow writing to the secure kernel partition through recovery (one that will allow you to copy the NAND part of your device and it's kernel, htcdev unlock only allows nand no matter what the recovery's log says), if you can't do that then try using fastboot in a cmd window to boot a saved recovery image from the fastboot directory on your computer, that may allow you to fix your issues, good luck, hope it helps
if i get the eng hboot how am i going to flash it if its not letting me run pc'img's?
loveableterrorepic4g said:
You downgraded and then you unlocked the bootloader? Had never heard of doing any phone in that order
FWIK and from my personal experience with HTCDEV unlock is that you will never have S-Off, not without an Eng-HBoot. Hacked HBoot's and other exploits can help gain it but "S-On" is in reference to a security feature in relation to the kernel and recovery partition, it was a safety measure to (in theory) keep you from bricking your phone by flashing an unstable kernel on it through recovery mode and possibly being unable to restore your previous nand by effing your recovery up. That is a simplified explanation and not all the reasons but you get the idea. I hope you can get it fixed. Best way to try to fix it is to go back and start from the beginning with just getting an Eng-HBoot or a hacked one that will allow writing to the secure kernel partition through recovery (one that will allow you to copy the NAND part of your device and it's kernel, htcdev unlock only allows nand no matter what the recovery's log says), if you can't do that then try using fastboot in a cmd window to boot a saved recovery image from the fastboot directory on your computer, that may allow you to fix your issues, good luck, hope it helps
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Have you tried using fastboot as a way to reboot the bootloader? I mean, my big thing is if you can get the pg img for the eng-hboot then you should be able to put it on your SD and then reboot the bootloader to let it try to boot the Pg, I know that I had a panic moment on the original EVO before they figured out a downgrade fix that I nearly bricked it, it wouldn't run the PG img check on first boot of the bootloader until I used fastboot to actually reflash the partitions on the phone (i may hate heimdall when I am working with samsungs but fastboot damn near broke me ha) the best thing to do it get a more intimate knowledge of the process and of fastboot and adb, they are great things to know how to use. Like I said I don't have a Thunderbolt but in dealing with HTC and HTCDEVs unlock tool I am pretty knowledgeable after working with it multiple times, I do know I had to downgrade my EVO (original) by manual partition flashing after I used the HTCDEV unlock tool, it unlocked the bootloader to allow me to boot what I flashed, but the kernel partition was still secure (S-On) this is what the tool, it seems that it was an attempt to cover their ass to ensure that those who don't know what their doing couldn't fully eff things up without more knowledge of the system and could reverse anything that may be unstable.

[Q] HTCdev bootloader or downgrade to 1.4?

I have a completely stock 3D with hboot 1.5, s-on, software 2.17. I want to gain root access in order to flash custom roms and such.
I saw a walk through on how to do this via HTCdev bootloader. I've also read about downgrading to hboot 1.4 and achieving s-off.
What are the advantages of downgrading to 1.4 and achieving s-off vs. sticking with 1.5 and s-on by using the HTCdev method?
Well fort you want be registered as having messed with your device to prevent a void in your warranty. The others are you can flash without any programs needed to install a kernel also you can flash splash screens. Flashing radios is also a benefit of soff. But soff will allow you to actually brick your device vs having just bootloader unlocked.
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patrao_n said:
Well fort you want be registered as having messed with your device to prevent a void in your warranty. The others are you can flash without any programs needed to install a kernel also you can flash splash screens. Flashing radios is also a benefit of soff. But soff will allow you to actually brick your device vs having just bootloader unlocked.
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So s-off is going to give me more access. Essentially the better option if I'm willing to take the risk?
Everything I've read about downgrading to 1.4 and getting s-off is via Linux... Is there a way to do this from Windows 7 instead?
AmbrosiaLyn07 said:
So s-off is going to give me more access. Essentially the better option if I'm willing to take the risk?
Everything I've read about downgrading to 1.4 and getting s-off is via Linux... Is there a way to do this from Windows 7 instead?
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not yet...windows devices will not recognize the eMMC in the device...only linux does it,... which is not hard...just download a usb version of linux...run it from your flash drive and it works just fine....did it with my puter successfully ...and yes it is better...like you said though...IF youre willing to take the risk
wloftus said:
not yet...windows devices will not recognize the eMMC in the device...only linux does it,... which is not hard...just download a usb version of linux...run it from your flash drive and it works just fine....did it with my puter successfully ...and yes it is better...like you said though...IF youre willing to take the risk
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Alright, sounds like a plan. I will probably wait until my roommate gets home. I don't have any spare flash drives lying around
Thank you for your help!
AmbrosiaLyn07 said:
Alright, sounds like a plan. I will probably wait until my roommate gets home. I don't have any spare flash drives lying around
Thank you for your help!
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Keep this in mind... S-off is great but you can fully permabrick your device with s-off, hard to do but it can be done. S-on blows but I'm pretty sure you can fix anything but a hardware failure with the unbrick method.
AmbrosiaLyn07 said:
Alright, sounds like a plan. I will probably wait until my roommate gets home. I don't have any spare flash drives lying around
Thank you for your help!
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If I might suggest, take a look at the CD in my signature. There is a guide in post #3. It should help to ease the process a bit.
~co~
wikdNoob said:
Keep this in mind... S-off is great but you can fully permabrick your device with s-off, hard to do but it can be done. S-on blows but I'm pretty sure you can fix anything but a hardware failure with the unbrick method.
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I'm willing to take the risk. I've done a lot of reading and my roommate is familiar with what he's doing.
Now, I just have to wait for him to come home... I'm tired of waiting, I just want it to be done already!
closeone said:
If I might suggest, take a look at the CD in my signature. There is a guide in post #3. It should help to ease the process a bit.
~co~
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Thank you so much for your help! I really appreciate it.
AmbrosiaLyn07 said:
I have a completely stock 3D with hboot 1.5, s-on, software 2.17. I want to gain root access in order to flash custom roms and such.
I saw a walk through on how to do this via HTCdev bootloader. I've also read about downgrading to hboot 1.4 and achieving s-off.
What are the advantages of downgrading to 1.4 and achieving s-off vs. sticking with 1.5 and s-on by using the HTCdev method?
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You don't need to achieve root access to flash ROMs or kernels.....unlocking your bootloader via HTC dev or revolutionary is just fine
My vote to hboot 1.4 S-OFF
mnomaanw said:
You don't need to achieve root access to flash ROMs or kernels.....unlocking your bootloader via HTC dev or revolutionary is just fine
My vote to hboot 1.4 S-OFF
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Since my roommate is doing it for me (his computers and computer knowledge are way more capable than mine) I let him decide which way he was going to do it. We ended up going with the HTC bootloader unlock.
We got it successfully unlocked through the bootloader but it still doesn't have root access. Like, apps that require root won't work and he can't get anything to flash on it. Suggestions?
AmbrosiaLyn07 said:
Since my roommate is doing it for me (his computers and computer knowledge are way more capable than mine) I let him decide which way he was going to do it. We ended up going with the HTC bootloader unlock.
We got it successfully unlocked through the bootloader but it still doesn't have root access. Like, apps that require root won't work and he can't get anything to flash on it. Suggestions?
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Do you have a custom recovery installed on it after you rooted htc dev method? Also did you flash superusers on it?
reaper24 said:
Do you have a custom recovery installed on it after you rooted htc dev method? Also did you flash superusers on it?
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I think he's trying to get a custom recovery on it now (twrp). And he's mentioned something about superuser.
But he seems frustrated like something went wrong :-/
reaper24 said:
Do you have a custom recovery installed on it after you rooted htc dev method? Also did you flash superusers on it?
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Now he's talking about cwm but doesn't seem to be able to find a file that works.
AmbrosiaLyn07 said:
Now he's talking about cwm but doesn't seem to be able to find a file that works.
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clockworkmod 4.0.1.4 -------> http://db.tt/hm3wkw1q
clockworkmod touch 5.8.0.2 --------> http://db.tt/yKUegldi
TWRP 1.1.1 -------> http://db.tt/ZrIEWf2B
TWRP touch 2.0 -------> http://db.tt/qHgIUljj
Recoveries versions other than these doesn't seem to work with hboot 1.5
CWM touch have a few bugs in this version , they may have fixed in the latest....
I suggest to try the 4ext recovery....
If you want to root your phone first flash any of these recovery using fastboot or flash image gui
then go to recovery flash this zip if you want SuperSU by Chainfire----------> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
OR
this one if you want Superuser by ChainsDD---->
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312971
and your stock Rom will be rooted...
you can always flash custom ROMs , they come pre rooted , so after flashing any recovery just flash any ROMs zip. file.....then you will have custom Rom with root access....
mnomaanw said:
clockworkmod 4.0.1.4 -------> http://db.tt/hm3wkw1q
clockworkmod touch 5.8.0.2 --------> http://db.tt/yKUegldi
TWRP 1.1.1 -------> http://db.tt/ZrIEWf2B
TWRP touch 2.0 -------> http://db.tt/qHgIUljj
Recoveries versions other than these doesn't seem to work with hboot 1.5
CWM touch have a few bugs in this version , they may have fixed in the latest....
I suggest to try the 4ext recovery....
If you want to root your phone first flash any of these recovery using fastboot or flash image gui
then go to recovery flash this zip if you want SuperSU by Chainfire----------> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
OR
this one if you want Superuser by ChainsDD---->
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312971
and your stock Rom will be rooted...
you can always flash custom ROMs , they come pre rooted , so after flashing any recovery just flash any ROMs zip. file.....then you will have custom Rom with root access....
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Go for the CWM 4.0 never had any issues .. The lateset CWM has funky issues..
mnomaanw said:
clockworkmod 4.0.1.4 -------> http://db.tt/hm3wkw1q
clockworkmod touch 5.8.0.2 --------> http://db.tt/yKUegldi
TWRP 1.1.1 -------> http://db.tt/ZrIEWf2B
TWRP touch 2.0 -------> http://db.tt/qHgIUljj
Recoveries versions other than these doesn't seem to work with hboot 1.5
CWM touch have a few bugs in this version , they may have fixed in the latest....
I suggest to try the 4ext recovery....
If you want to root your phone first flash any of these recovery using fastboot or flash image gui
then go to recovery flash this zip if you want SuperSU by Chainfire----------> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
OR
this one if you want Superuser by ChainsDD---->
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312971
and your stock Rom will be rooted...
you can always flash custom ROMs , they come pre rooted , so after flashing any recovery just flash any ROMs zip. file.....then you will have custom Rom with root access....
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Thank you so much! That is awesome! I really appreciate you getting those all in one place for me.
I finally have root access and am currently running infected rom eternity and am super stoked!
reaper24 - Thank you for your input as well. I got the cwm 4... my roommate just tried to do something by going to one of the newer versions... Whatever it was he was trying to do didn't work and he went back to 4, so I'll definitely be sticking with that for now.
Next order of business... unlocking my friends' phone. She got hers in January (preloaded with hboot1.5 and 2.17). Can't get it to unlock via HTC bootloader unlock. I did read that there is a problem getting the newer ones that shipped with the updated software to unlock. I understand you need the 2.08 RUU. I found an active link and downloaded the file... Now what do I do with the thing?
Where did you find the working ruu I need one. I honestly think you just rename it to pg86img put it on the root of your sd card and hold down vol down and power. Once it loads into bootloafer it will scan the file and ask you if you want to flash it over.
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AmbrosiaLyn07 said:
Thank you so much! That is awesome! I really appreciate you getting those all in one place for me.
I finally have root access and am currently running infected rom eternity and am super stoked!
reaper24 - Thank you for your input as well. I got the cwm 4... my roommate just tried to do something by going to one of the newer versions... Whatever it was he was trying to do didn't work and he went back to 4, so I'll definitely be sticking with that for now.
Next order of business... unlocking my friends' phone. She got hers in January (preloaded with hboot1.5 and 2.17). Can't get it to unlock via HTC bootloader unlock. I did read that there is a problem getting the newer ones that shipped with the updated software to unlock. I understand you need the 2.08 RUU. I found an active link and downloaded the file... Now what do I do with the thing?
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If her phone has 2.17 then you can't run the 2.08. You need to run the 2.17 and then you can unlock it. I had to do that too.
For those of you going for the HTC Unlock (vs downgrade) i think maany of your questions & detailed walkthru can be found in the guide in my signature.
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What do I need for root?

Hi guys!
I read the forum, then read some more. And then read sticky topics and other links....
... and I'm totally confused now!
I want to root the phone, so I can manipulate the memory of it. That's it. I don't want to lock, unlock, S-off, flash or whatever the term it is for whatever action.
Is there a glossary on those terms, readable by a human being?
What I need is the Game CIH to work, so I can get more money/coins/lives/whatever in my games.
For that, I need the phone rooted.
And there we have it Now you know what I need, so if there's someone that can tell me 'go follow THIS tutorial' or 'read here', I would be very grateful!
This is most likely already poking my eyes out, but I have no idea what ROM flashing is, nor why would I want S-OFF instead of S-ON....
Help!
AW: What do I need for root?
If u only want root you dont need s-off
S-off gives you the ability to flash everything, even another bootloader
but if you dont even have an idea about that, better stay away from that
Heres a list of those terms :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Glossary
Do u have a GSM or cdma phone?
This guide is for GSM, the part of unlocking+root should be the same for cdma , but if you are cdma better wait for another cdma user just to make sure
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1743466
A+B
You need to unlock your bootloader to flash superuser^^
Thank you! That was quick
I wish there were more people like you, Quantenhall
Only one thing confused me, though...
Quantenhall said:
If u only want root you dont need s-off
S-off gives you the ability to flash everything, even another bootloader
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Quantenhall said:
You need to unlock your bootloader to flash superuser^^
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You said root does not need s-off, but superuser does.
I was under the impression root = superuser
I suck at Linux, so don't curse me
AW: What do I need for root?
extremko said:
Thank you! That was quick
I wish there were more people like you, Quantenhall
Only one thing confused me, though...
You said root does not need s-off, but superuser does.
I was under the impression root = superuser
I suck at Linux, so don't curse me
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No, i said you need an unlocked bootloader
That is not the same as s-off
S-off is only needed if you want to flash aosp roms one day
Just follow the instructions of the second link (a+b) and you will have root access
But make a backup first
Conclusion:
1 backup (adb , there are tools for that, i think one was named ultimate backup tool, if you dont find it search for Android 4 backup without root or similar)
2 unlocking bootloader (htcdev, a from link)
3 flash custom recovery(adb , b from link)
4 flash superuser (copy to SD, boot to recovery, install zip from sd)
That should be all for root
Quantenhall said:
No, i said you need an unlocked bootloader
That is not the same as s-off
S-off is only needed if you want to flash aosp roms one day
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Got it now
Thanks for the explanation
Quantenhall said:
Conclusion:
1 backup (adb , there are tools for that, i think one was named ultimate backup tool, if you dont find it search for Android 4 backup without root or similar)
2 unlocking bootloader (htcdev, a from link)
3 flash custom recovery(adb , b from link)
4 flash superuser (copy to SD, boot to recovery, install zip from sd)
That should be all for root
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I managed to understand the instructions you linked to, but it's good to have a summary just to make sure I did indeed understood everything as I should have
But there's a problem :/
B4. A link to recovery on mediafire is dead :/
And I don't have 10 posts yet, so I can't post in dev forum and ask OP to make an update.
On the other hand, he clearly stated he doesn't read private messages regarding other people problems :/
I'll go if I can be useful somewhere else on the forum and get myself up to 10 posts
Any recovery made for your phone should work. I would recommend 4EXT Touch Recovery. I uploaded it here for you http://www.mediafire.com/?702ttkdggk69g3i so just unzip it and use the recovery.img as the instructions imply.
Do note that I downloaded this recovery via their app I downloaded from 4ext.net using an Evo 3D CDMA phone. I do know 4EXT works with both CDMA and GSM phones but I can't be certain if they use different recovery.img files.
Thank you all!
I successfully rooted the phone, thanks to you!
Actually, not only you, mostly the guy who wrote the crazy good tutorial!
But without you my mojo wouldn't be enough to make it through
I unlocked the bootloader via htcdev.com, then flashed recovery image and finally ran superuser.apk.
I'm in the process of restoring all my data back to the phone at the moment, and this should be it I guess
Thank you so much for your help, going through the process once really put all the pieces together for me.
Now I really know what some terms actually mean
So... if I would like to install different OS (CWM, CM...), it's much easier now, right?
I should go to recovery and say "install from a file" and select my new OS?
I think so... but nevermind, I'm done with the questions. You've both been more than helpful already
P.S.
Oh so many smilies... can you tell I'm happy?

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Ok... so I have unlocked my boot-loader, what do I need to do to root my phone?
I am not S-off yet, do I need to be S-off before root is possible?
Pure+ said:
Ok... so I have unlocked my boot-loader, what do I need to do to root my phone?
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You don't need S-Off to root. Since you've already unlocked the bootloader, I suggest using this program to flash a custom recovery (ex TWRP or Philz) then select perm root. The application guides you through most of it. If you need more help with the program itself, check the main thread or one of the support links in the program.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2699065
akitten007 said:
You don't need S-Off to root. Since you've already unlocked the bootloader, I suggest using this program to flash a custom recovery (ex TWRP or Philz) then select perm root. If you need more help with the program itself, check the main thread or one of the support links in the program.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2699065
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That's the tool i used to unlock BL. I just wasn't sure what the exact steps for Root were. Which Recovery is the most stable of the 2? I'm most familiar with TWRP but if the alternate option is more stable then I will go that route.
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That's the tool i used to unlock BL. I just wasn't sure what the exact steps for Root were. Which Recovery is the most stable of the 2? I'm most familiar with TWRP but if the alternate option is more stable then I will go that route.
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I usually run with TWRP, but both recoveries are stable. If you look in the roms section, most require Philz recovery so if you want to flash roms I would go with that. And here is a link from the program that shows a step by step process of unlocking and rooting. Just skip the unlocking portion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2066390
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I usually run with TWRP, but both recoveries are stable. If you look in the roms section, most require Philz recovery so if you want to flash roms I would go with that. And here is a link from the program that shows a step by step process of unlocking and rooting. Just skip the unlocking portion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2066390
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So I installed TWRP and I'm rooting now. What's the best way to update TWRP to the latest version. It installed 2.7.0.2 and I'd Like to install 2.7.0.4
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So I installed TWRP and I'm rooting now. What's the best way to update TWRP to the latest version. It installed 2.7.0.2 and I'd Like to install 2.7.0.4
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Grab the img from the thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2695709
Then you need to use fastboot to flash recovery. Hold shift and right click the data folder of the toolkit. Select open command window from here. Then type commands listed below in order.
adb reboot fastboot
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img(rename twrp img to this)
fastboot reboot
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Grab the img from the thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2695709
Then you need to use fastboot to flash recovery. Hold shift and right click the data folder of the toolkit. Select open command window from here. Then type commands listed below in order.
adb reboot fastboot
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img(rename twrp img to this)
fastboot reboot
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Thanks. I actually just ended up using the toolkit to install for me before i saw this. But next time I'll know lol
akitten007 said:
I usually run with TWRP, but both recoveries are stable. If you look in the roms section, most require Philz recovery so if you want to flash roms I would go with that. And here is a link from the program that shows a step by step process of unlocking and rooting. Just skip the unlocking portion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2066390
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Hey btw I really appreciate all the help you've provided me. Might not be rooted right now without it. I do have one more question, what are the benefits of S-off?
Pure+ said:
Thanks. I actually just ended up using the toolkit to install for me before i saw this. But next time I'll know lol
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No problem. Hope I was able to help
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Pure+ said:
Hey btw I really appreciate all the help you've provided me. Might not be rooted right now without it. I do have one more question, what are the benefits of S-off?
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S-Off allows write permissions to the firmware, radio, and bootloader partitions. Some roms, like the GPE ones I believe, require S-Off, but most stock sense roms do not. You can also sim unlock with S-Off. Those are the primary uses, but someone feel free to chime in if I missed something. This is my 3rd day with the M8 lol
There's also this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2718626
twrp 2702 from official site is newer that the 2704 unofficial. grab img from official site
fastboot flash recovery twrp.img
IF all your wanting to do is flash roms then no need for s-off...if just learning and are leary of a brick stay safe with s-on....Theres always a chance when messing with partitions that are locked with s-on
S-Off is good for preventing brick in some situations, of course people still manage to brick their phones with s off, but to achieve S-Off you have to be familiar with adb and fastboot commands. If you required the toolkit for root, ie you do not know how to use adb and fastboot commands, I wouldn't recommend doing it until you are familiar with that. There are several guides, take some time to read and you should have a good start.
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My phone is rooted.
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My phone is rooted.
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Did the posts here make that possible? I know I wouldn't be rooted right now without their help.
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