I have a completely stock 3D with hboot 1.5, s-on, software 2.17. I want to gain root access in order to flash custom roms and such.
I saw a walk through on how to do this via HTCdev bootloader. I've also read about downgrading to hboot 1.4 and achieving s-off.
What are the advantages of downgrading to 1.4 and achieving s-off vs. sticking with 1.5 and s-on by using the HTCdev method?
Well fort you want be registered as having messed with your device to prevent a void in your warranty. The others are you can flash without any programs needed to install a kernel also you can flash splash screens. Flashing radios is also a benefit of soff. But soff will allow you to actually brick your device vs having just bootloader unlocked.
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patrao_n said:
Well fort you want be registered as having messed with your device to prevent a void in your warranty. The others are you can flash without any programs needed to install a kernel also you can flash splash screens. Flashing radios is also a benefit of soff. But soff will allow you to actually brick your device vs having just bootloader unlocked.
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So s-off is going to give me more access. Essentially the better option if I'm willing to take the risk?
Everything I've read about downgrading to 1.4 and getting s-off is via Linux... Is there a way to do this from Windows 7 instead?
AmbrosiaLyn07 said:
So s-off is going to give me more access. Essentially the better option if I'm willing to take the risk?
Everything I've read about downgrading to 1.4 and getting s-off is via Linux... Is there a way to do this from Windows 7 instead?
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not yet...windows devices will not recognize the eMMC in the device...only linux does it,... which is not hard...just download a usb version of linux...run it from your flash drive and it works just fine....did it with my puter successfully ...and yes it is better...like you said though...IF youre willing to take the risk
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not yet...windows devices will not recognize the eMMC in the device...only linux does it,... which is not hard...just download a usb version of linux...run it from your flash drive and it works just fine....did it with my puter successfully ...and yes it is better...like you said though...IF youre willing to take the risk
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Alright, sounds like a plan. I will probably wait until my roommate gets home. I don't have any spare flash drives lying around
Thank you for your help!
AmbrosiaLyn07 said:
Alright, sounds like a plan. I will probably wait until my roommate gets home. I don't have any spare flash drives lying around
Thank you for your help!
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Keep this in mind... S-off is great but you can fully permabrick your device with s-off, hard to do but it can be done. S-on blows but I'm pretty sure you can fix anything but a hardware failure with the unbrick method.
AmbrosiaLyn07 said:
Alright, sounds like a plan. I will probably wait until my roommate gets home. I don't have any spare flash drives lying around
Thank you for your help!
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If I might suggest, take a look at the CD in my signature. There is a guide in post #3. It should help to ease the process a bit.
~co~
wikdNoob said:
Keep this in mind... S-off is great but you can fully permabrick your device with s-off, hard to do but it can be done. S-on blows but I'm pretty sure you can fix anything but a hardware failure with the unbrick method.
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I'm willing to take the risk. I've done a lot of reading and my roommate is familiar with what he's doing.
Now, I just have to wait for him to come home... I'm tired of waiting, I just want it to be done already!
closeone said:
If I might suggest, take a look at the CD in my signature. There is a guide in post #3. It should help to ease the process a bit.
~co~
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Thank you so much for your help! I really appreciate it.
AmbrosiaLyn07 said:
I have a completely stock 3D with hboot 1.5, s-on, software 2.17. I want to gain root access in order to flash custom roms and such.
I saw a walk through on how to do this via HTCdev bootloader. I've also read about downgrading to hboot 1.4 and achieving s-off.
What are the advantages of downgrading to 1.4 and achieving s-off vs. sticking with 1.5 and s-on by using the HTCdev method?
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You don't need to achieve root access to flash ROMs or kernels.....unlocking your bootloader via HTC dev or revolutionary is just fine
My vote to hboot 1.4 S-OFF
mnomaanw said:
You don't need to achieve root access to flash ROMs or kernels.....unlocking your bootloader via HTC dev or revolutionary is just fine
My vote to hboot 1.4 S-OFF
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Since my roommate is doing it for me (his computers and computer knowledge are way more capable than mine) I let him decide which way he was going to do it. We ended up going with the HTC bootloader unlock.
We got it successfully unlocked through the bootloader but it still doesn't have root access. Like, apps that require root won't work and he can't get anything to flash on it. Suggestions?
AmbrosiaLyn07 said:
Since my roommate is doing it for me (his computers and computer knowledge are way more capable than mine) I let him decide which way he was going to do it. We ended up going with the HTC bootloader unlock.
We got it successfully unlocked through the bootloader but it still doesn't have root access. Like, apps that require root won't work and he can't get anything to flash on it. Suggestions?
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Do you have a custom recovery installed on it after you rooted htc dev method? Also did you flash superusers on it?
reaper24 said:
Do you have a custom recovery installed on it after you rooted htc dev method? Also did you flash superusers on it?
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I think he's trying to get a custom recovery on it now (twrp). And he's mentioned something about superuser.
But he seems frustrated like something went wrong :-/
reaper24 said:
Do you have a custom recovery installed on it after you rooted htc dev method? Also did you flash superusers on it?
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Now he's talking about cwm but doesn't seem to be able to find a file that works.
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Now he's talking about cwm but doesn't seem to be able to find a file that works.
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clockworkmod 4.0.1.4 -------> http://db.tt/hm3wkw1q
clockworkmod touch 5.8.0.2 --------> http://db.tt/yKUegldi
TWRP 1.1.1 -------> http://db.tt/ZrIEWf2B
TWRP touch 2.0 -------> http://db.tt/qHgIUljj
Recoveries versions other than these doesn't seem to work with hboot 1.5
CWM touch have a few bugs in this version , they may have fixed in the latest....
I suggest to try the 4ext recovery....
If you want to root your phone first flash any of these recovery using fastboot or flash image gui
then go to recovery flash this zip if you want SuperSU by Chainfire----------> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
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this one if you want Superuser by ChainsDD---->
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312971
and your stock Rom will be rooted...
you can always flash custom ROMs , they come pre rooted , so after flashing any recovery just flash any ROMs zip. file.....then you will have custom Rom with root access....
mnomaanw said:
clockworkmod 4.0.1.4 -------> http://db.tt/hm3wkw1q
clockworkmod touch 5.8.0.2 --------> http://db.tt/yKUegldi
TWRP 1.1.1 -------> http://db.tt/ZrIEWf2B
TWRP touch 2.0 -------> http://db.tt/qHgIUljj
Recoveries versions other than these doesn't seem to work with hboot 1.5
CWM touch have a few bugs in this version , they may have fixed in the latest....
I suggest to try the 4ext recovery....
If you want to root your phone first flash any of these recovery using fastboot or flash image gui
then go to recovery flash this zip if you want SuperSU by Chainfire----------> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
OR
this one if you want Superuser by ChainsDD---->
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312971
and your stock Rom will be rooted...
you can always flash custom ROMs , they come pre rooted , so after flashing any recovery just flash any ROMs zip. file.....then you will have custom Rom with root access....
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Go for the CWM 4.0 never had any issues .. The lateset CWM has funky issues..
mnomaanw said:
clockworkmod 4.0.1.4 -------> http://db.tt/hm3wkw1q
clockworkmod touch 5.8.0.2 --------> http://db.tt/yKUegldi
TWRP 1.1.1 -------> http://db.tt/ZrIEWf2B
TWRP touch 2.0 -------> http://db.tt/qHgIUljj
Recoveries versions other than these doesn't seem to work with hboot 1.5
CWM touch have a few bugs in this version , they may have fixed in the latest....
I suggest to try the 4ext recovery....
If you want to root your phone first flash any of these recovery using fastboot or flash image gui
then go to recovery flash this zip if you want SuperSU by Chainfire----------> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
OR
this one if you want Superuser by ChainsDD---->
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312971
and your stock Rom will be rooted...
you can always flash custom ROMs , they come pre rooted , so after flashing any recovery just flash any ROMs zip. file.....then you will have custom Rom with root access....
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Thank you so much! That is awesome! I really appreciate you getting those all in one place for me.
I finally have root access and am currently running infected rom eternity and am super stoked!
reaper24 - Thank you for your input as well. I got the cwm 4... my roommate just tried to do something by going to one of the newer versions... Whatever it was he was trying to do didn't work and he went back to 4, so I'll definitely be sticking with that for now.
Next order of business... unlocking my friends' phone. She got hers in January (preloaded with hboot1.5 and 2.17). Can't get it to unlock via HTC bootloader unlock. I did read that there is a problem getting the newer ones that shipped with the updated software to unlock. I understand you need the 2.08 RUU. I found an active link and downloaded the file... Now what do I do with the thing?
Where did you find the working ruu I need one. I honestly think you just rename it to pg86img put it on the root of your sd card and hold down vol down and power. Once it loads into bootloafer it will scan the file and ask you if you want to flash it over.
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AmbrosiaLyn07 said:
Thank you so much! That is awesome! I really appreciate you getting those all in one place for me.
I finally have root access and am currently running infected rom eternity and am super stoked!
reaper24 - Thank you for your input as well. I got the cwm 4... my roommate just tried to do something by going to one of the newer versions... Whatever it was he was trying to do didn't work and he went back to 4, so I'll definitely be sticking with that for now.
Next order of business... unlocking my friends' phone. She got hers in January (preloaded with hboot1.5 and 2.17). Can't get it to unlock via HTC bootloader unlock. I did read that there is a problem getting the newer ones that shipped with the updated software to unlock. I understand you need the 2.08 RUU. I found an active link and downloaded the file... Now what do I do with the thing?
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If her phone has 2.17 then you can't run the 2.08. You need to run the 2.17 and then you can unlock it. I had to do that too.
For those of you going for the HTC Unlock (vs downgrade) i think maany of your questions & detailed walkthru can be found in the guide in my signature.
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Hello. I'm new to the whole flashing and rooting process. Last time I hacked a phone was waaayyyy back in 2004 or 2005 when I used to hack my Motorola v505. The question I have is do you have to root your phone before flashing it? If not, what exactly can I do after flashing my phone?
BUBBYLEE said:
Hello. I'm new to the whole flashing and rooting process. Last time I hacked a phone was waaayyyy back in 2004 or 2005 when I used to hack my Motorola v505. The question I have is do you have to root your phone before flashing it? If not, what exactly can I do after flashing my phone?
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Yes, you should root before flash....if reversed, you might have to flash again.
I get what your saying kinda. But what I wonder is if I could flash my phone without having to root to get it to do certain things. Would there be a benefit for flashing instead of rooting? Such as would I be able to use custom themes or roms or anything along those lines JUST by flashing? Is there anything I can do by only flashing my Evo 3D?
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is your devise cdma or is it a gsm ethere way you would have to unlock the bootloader and install a custom recovery and then you can flash a rom and if you want full nand unlock and s off then you would need to down grade your hboot number as well
My Evo 3D is cdma I believe. And being that I purchased it December 26 I believe that the hboot is the 1.50. So assuming I downgrade and unlock the bootloader all I have to do is flash to use a custom rom? No root?
I believe you will have to root your phone or the flash a rom because your hboot has to be s off for you to flash recovery which would let you flash a rom
I would recommend close ones downgrade iso . 1.5 can only be unlocked using htcs hboot unlock. and to be honest I don't like them knowing what I do with my phone .follow the steps on his guide and you should be able to downgrade to 1.4
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louforgiveno said:
Yes, you should root before flash....if reversed, you might have to flash again.
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its opposite LOL.......you unlock bootloader first , then flash recovery and then flash any Rom or a flashable superuser.zip which will root your phone.
@OP
You can unlock your bootloader using htcdev.com if you don't want to downgrade.
After unlocking, I suggest to flash 4ext recovery as it can flash boot partitions even though you are s-on....then you can flash any custom ROMs of your choice .You don't need root to flash ROMs or other stuffs , you need a unlocked bootloader to flash. Root is just having superuser app and binary in your phones system ... Once your bootloader is unlocked you can flash any ROMs . All custom ROMs here comes pre rooted
mnomaanw said:
its opposite LOL.......you unlock bootloader first , then flash recovery and then flash any Rom or a flashable superuser.zip which will root your phone.
@OP
You can unlock your bootloader using htcdev.com if you don't want to downgrade.
After unlocking, I suggest to flash 4ext recovery as it can flash boot partitions even though you are s-on....then you can flash any custom ROMs of your choice .You don't need root to flash ROMs or other stuffs , you need a unlocked bootloader to flash. Root is just having superuser app and binary in your phones system ... Once your bootloader is unlocked you can flash any ROMs . All custom ROMs here comes pre rooted
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Ok so from my understanding of what you said, all i have to do is unlock the bootloader with htcdev.com, then use something called 4ext, then im good to go and can flash roms? Also, once i do this will i be able to intall some kind of screen rotation animation to my evo3d? I would like a nice animation and so would that be possible to do if i follow the above steps? and thank all of you for your help.
@bubbylee,
See the Hboot 1.50 guide in my signature if ur not planning on the Hboot downgrade to 1.40 yet. Lots of details/answers to common questions to help u along.
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BUBBYLEE said:
Ok so from my understanding of what you said, all i have to do is unlock the bootloader with htcdev.com, then use something called 4ext, then im good to go and can flash roms? Also, once i do this will i be able to intall some kind of screen rotation animation to my evo3d? I would like a nice animation and so would that be possible to do if i follow the above steps? and thank all of you for your help.
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Yes you can do everything what hboot 1.4 users can, except flashing radios/firmware.....I still suggest to downgrade the hboot as it makes your phone fully unlocked . Hboot 1.5 needs PC for flashing some stuffs. You cannot flash PG86IMGs without relocking your bootloader if you are on hbooot 1.5 .
For transition effects and anims , there is an app in the play store which works on every phone and every Rom provided your phone Rom is rooted......
NOTE: Unlocking bootloader will void some parts of your warranty...
This stuff is confusing and complicated lol I folowed the guide and ive hit a spot where the guide says i need a linux pc to downgrade from 1.5 to 1.4 i believe. So no go lol i only have windows. but its poible for me to flash without downgrading right? ill take that route if possible.
BUBBYLEE said:
This stuff is confusing and complicated lol I folowed the guide and ive hit a spot where the guide says i need a linux pc to downgrade from 1.5 to 1.4 i believe. So no go lol i only have windows. but its poible for me to flash without downgrading right? ill take that route if possible.
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Hi there BUBBYLEE. Check out the CD in my signature. That should help you with the downgrade. No installation of Linux required.
~co~
BUBBYLEE said:
This stuff is confusing and complicated lol I folowed the guide and ive hit a spot where the guide says i need a linux pc to downgrade from 1.5 to 1.4 i believe. So no go lol i only have windows. but its poible for me to flash without downgrading right? ill take that route if possible.
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Yeah its so easy , try closeone's disc. it a live cd meaning you don't need to install Linux, just insert the disc and Linux will boot up. I downgraded hboot too and I had never used Linux before .
BUBBYLEE said:
Hello. I'm new to the whole flashing and rooting process. Last time I hacked a phone was waaayyyy back in 2004 or 2005 when I used to hack my Motorola v505. The question I have is do you have to root your phone before flashing it? If not, what exactly can I do after flashing my phone?
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mnomaanw said:
its opposite LOL.......you unlock bootloader first , then flash recovery and then flash any Rom or a flashable superuser.zip which will root your phone.
@OP
You can unlock your bootloader using htcdev.com if you don't want to downgrade.
After unlocking, I suggest to flash 4ext recovery as it can flash boot partitions even though you are s-on....then you can flash any custom ROMs of your choice .You don't need root to flash ROMs or other stuffs , you need a unlocked bootloader to flash. Root is just having superuser app and binary in your phones system ... Once your bootloader is unlocked you can flash any ROMs . All custom ROMs here comes pre rooted
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I thought he wanted to "flash" to another carrier LOL.....
@bubbylee obviously ignore my first post, thought you were asking something else.
mnomaanw said:
@OP
You can unlock your bootloader using htcdev.com if you don't want to downgrade.
After unlocking, I suggest to flash 4ext recovery as it can flash boot partitions even though you are s-on....then you can flash any custom ROMs of your choice .You don't need root to flash ROMs or other stuffs , you need a unlocked bootloader to flash. Root is just having superuser app and binary in your phones system ... Once your bootloader is unlocked you can flash any ROMs . All custom ROMs here comes pre rooted
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So are you saying that if i flash then install a custom pre rooted rom from here that my phone will be rooted just from flashing a pre rooted rom? Also, I believe I'm going to go the HTC.dev route. Seems simple enough and make little more sense to me.
BUBBYLEE said:
My Evo 3D is cdma I believe. And being that I purchased it December 26 I believe that the hboot is the 1.50. So assuming I downgrade and unlock the bootloader all I have to do is flash to use a custom rom? No root?
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Well in my understanding CDMA doesn't need a SIM card and GSM does. So maybe that'll help you answer the question
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BUBBYLEE said:
So are you saying that if i flash then install a custom pre rooted rom from here that my phone will be rooted just from flashing a pre rooted rom? Also, I believe I'm going to go the HTC.dev route. Seems simple enough and make little more sense to me.
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The HTC dev method gave me problems with the WiMAX so if you don't use or have WiMAX use the HTC dev method. But again Closeone's bootable linux live cd is just as easy as HTC dev and is getting easier. Plus , its better to have s-off since its easier to flash roms (Unless you have 4ext recovery) then you'll be in hboot 1.4 and you could update (using another method so that you don't lose s-off) back to hboot 1.5. . If you want I'll give you links to make you're life easier.
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Jimlarck said:
The HTC dev method gave me problems with the WiMAX so if you don't use or have WiMAX use the HTC dev method. But again Closeone's bootable linux live cd is just as easy as HTC dev and is getting easier. Plus , its better to have s-off since its easier to flash roms (Unless you have 4ext recovery) then you'll be in hboot 1.4 and you could update (using another method so that you don't lose s-off) back to hboot 1.5. . If you want I'll give you links to make you're life easier.
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Ok lol I think Ive grown the balls to flash/root my evo3d. I'm as ready now as I'll ever be. Im ready lol so I just follow the guide and im good to go hopefully. lets do this
BUBBYLEE said:
Ok lol I think Ive grown the balls to flash/root my evo3d. I'm as ready now as I'll ever be. Im ready lol so I just follow the guide and im good to go hopefully. lets do this
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If you've decided to use the downgrade method, step-by-step instructions are in post #3 of the thread in my signature. If you need any help, you're welcome to post in the thread.
It's not as scary as it looks, but it's something where you'll have to follow directions carefully.
~co~
BUBBYLEE said:
Ok lol I think Ive grown the balls to flash/root my evo3d. I'm as ready now as I'll ever be. Im ready lol so I just follow the guide and im good to go hopefully. lets do this
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Ok, I'll be online and constantly checking the thread so if any questions post here. And use Closeone's cd, Highly recommended
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Hey guys,
I'm new to things here. I have done a lot of experimenting though before I'm posting this... and have read A TON of forums trying to find the answers,
I unlocked my Tbolt's bootloader through the HTC method, I've been trying to load CM7, VIRUS, and MIUI rom's and they'll load up into the boot image but will just cycle there and won't go on into the UI.
I've flashed CWK recovery and SU so I don't know why they're not flashing...
The only ROM that I've had success with is the Thunderstick but I don't really like this ROM it's too close to the HTC gingerbread sence
if anyone has any ideas of how I can get CM7 or a VIRUS ROM on my phone please help!!!
Thank you in advanced!!!
The problem you have is because you used the HTC dev unlock method which unlocks the bootloader it leaves you s on. You can't flash custom kernels in recovery with s on which is why you aren't able to boot those roms. Try downloading 4ext recovery. It has a built in tool to flash custom kernels even with s on.
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RMseth said:
...and have read A TON of forums trying to find the answers ... I unlocked my Tbolt's bootloader through the HTC method
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As noted, HTC's tool is certainly deceiving to users looking to "root" their phones. You need "S-OFF" status in order to flash 3rd-party ROMs. I presume you can obtain S-OFF using numerous non-HTC ways. I know that the revolutionary.io method no longer works if your phone has a newer software version of 605.5 - HTC patched the flaw that was being exploited.
yah it's really deceiving... if I would have know this I would have used another way to gain root... but oh well I'll be trying that 4ext recovery control and see if that will work for me THANK YOU!!!
what ROM's have guys been using that you really like for your TBolt?
RMseth said:
yah it's really deceiving... if I would have know this I would have used another way to gain root... but oh well I'll be trying that 4ext recovery control and see if that will work for me THANK YOU!!!
what ROM's have guys been using that you really like for your TBolt?
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So far my two favorites are Killasense and iKream. I really like Thundershed but I couldn't get past some very minor issues with it. Here soon you may see something from me.....
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so I tried flashing 4ext I like it a WHOLE lot better then CWK but the setting that you were talking about with the S-on... it says it's not available for my device.... do ether of you know why that would be? do I need to go in and fix a permission or something...
I tried flashing a ROM that was giving me problems before but it still just loads into the boot.img and then just runs the cycle over and over again.
4ext probably uses the "zerg" exploit which HTC and other manufacturers have patched on various phones, but not all. On the TBolt, for example, I'm not aware of how to gain S-OFF if you're on a s/w version higher than 605.5.
I thought you could downgrade and use the revolutionary tool to unlock and gain s off. After you installed 4ext did you run the app before you restarted and booted into recovery. The first thing it asks is if you have s off. When you select no it sets the recovery up to handle flashing kernels.
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disconnecktie said:
I thought you could downgrade and use the revolutionary tool to unlock and gain s off.
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Sorry if that was confusing... But yes, I believe you have to downgrade to 605.5 to gain S-OFF. If you're on 605.9 or 605.19, there's no exploit that I know of. Ironically, if I recall correctly, you usually weren't able to downgrade or flash an older version but currently VZW/HTC allows it.
Search has failed me, I have a rezound that i rooted after unlocking the bootloader and using hansons toolkit..
What is the best way to get to stock so I can accept the ICS update and re root?
I am familiar with how to relock my bootloader..
Thank you all
PS I called verizon today because my rezound is a bit fishy with the charger wanting to replace it to under warranty , they no longer have them available and are shipping the Razr Maxx as a substitute...UGGGH.
Don't accept that Motorola garbage.... Less processor speed and terrible screen also less dev support. Oh and you don't need to get back to stock to get ics just flash the ics ota in bootloader
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please forgive my ignorance how do I flash the over the air update on to my phone from the bootloader mode
mayhem like me said:
Search has failed me, I have a rezound that i rooted after unlocking the bootloader and using hansons toolkit..
What is the best way to get to stock so I can accept the ICS update and re root?
I am familiar with how to relock my bootloader..
Thank you all
PS I called verizon today because my rezound is a bit fishy with the charger wanting to replace it to under warranty , they no longer have them available and are shipping the Razr Maxx as a substitute...UGGGH.
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I've created a guide for rooted users to install the official ICS over-the-air: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tmlh4OnplVfBNSjSyXfTYIVGfyb9lgI6ABpfg7gHY44/edit
I'm also working on a guide to restore root after installing ICS. It's not too bad at all, it's just finding a simple guide that's the trick... For restoring root after ICS, you can see my response here, where I reference discussions where I asked the same questions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1829484
mayhem like me said:
please forgive my ignorance how do I flash the over the air update on to my phone from the bootloader mode
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but you wouldn't do that for the over the air update.
You would need to flash stock recovery (assuming you've flashed a custom recovery), and then they can install the update through Android, like normal.
The guide i posted takes you through this process, as i did it.
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mayhem like me said:
PS I called verizon today because my rezound is a bit fishy with the charger wanting to replace it to under warranty , they no longer have them available and are shipping the Razr Maxx as a substitute...UGGGH.
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Oh, and if you flashed Clockwork Mod, this is likely causing your charging problems. This is why i used AR Recovery 3.15 instead.
You can either take the OTA update or install an RUU.
Both ways, you have to relocked your bootloader or S-OFF.
For the OTA, you should be stock everything.
Stock recovery and rom.
For an RUU, just make sure you are on a rom that matches your firmware.
Gingerbread ROM on Gingerbread firmware.
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I have amon ra and I was responding to the first answer, I will try your method, do I have to go stock first or will the first step in your guide put me back to stock recovery, then relock bootloader .
mayhem like me said:
I have amon ra and I was responding to the first answer, I will try your method, do I have to go stock first or will the first step in your guide put me back to stock recovery, then relock bootloader .
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For the OTA, you need to be stock everything or it won't install. This is why I included instructions on how to revert back to stock recovery before trying the OTA.
You do not need to re-lock your hboot if you have S-OFF. What happens is that the OTA update re-locks the bootloader and you have to unlock it again if you want to play with your device (like, re-install AR Recovery). Or, if you have S-Off, you can install a different hboot that's already unlocked, and then you can flash custom recoveries, etc. But since messing with the hboot is very risky, I chose to re-unlock my hboot the HTC way after installing the OTA.
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The OTA may have worked for me with an unlocked hboot because I was S-Off prior to updating. If you're not S-Off, you may indeed need to re-lock before updating.
However, it may be just as easy to get S-Off. It's actually very easy. I will make a very easy guide for this as well. Let me know, and I can help you through it. I'm not an expert, but it doesn't take an expert. The hardest part for me was just finding a good, uncomplicated guide - doesn't seem to be one at the moment, though there is a ton of info out there.
Anyway, let me know if you want help getting S-Off.
bloodymurderlive said:
For the OTA, you need to be stock everything or it won't install. This is why I included instructions on how to revert back to stock recovery before trying the OTA.
You do not need to re-lock your hboot if you have S-OFF. What happens is that the OTA update re-locks the bootloader and you have to unlock it again if you want to play with your device (like, re-install AR Recovery). Or, if you have S-Off, you can install a different hboot that's already unlocked, and then you can flash custom recoveries, etc. But since messing with the hboot is very risky, I chose to re-unlock my hboot the HTC way after installing the OTA.
*important edit*
The OTA may have worked for me with an unlocked hboot because I was S-Off prior to updating. If you're not S-Off, you may indeed need to re-lock before updating.
However, it may be just as easy to get S-Off. It's actually very easy. I will make a very easy guide for this as well. Let me know, and I can help you through it. I'm not an expert, but it doesn't take an expert. The hardest part for me was just finding a good, uncomplicated guide - doesn't seem to be one at the moment, though there is a ton of info out there.
Anyway, let me know if you want help getting S-Off.
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Think I may have to try S off , tried to get back to stock and bootloader relocked but stock recovery would not flash,, unlocked again and restored from a backup through Amon ra
mayhem like me said:
Think I may have to try S off , tried to get back to stock and bootloader relocked but stock recovery would not flash,, unlocked again and restored from a backup through Amon ra
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you need to be unlocked if you want to flash recoveries. You should have flashed the stock recovery and then relocked. (if I'm understanding what you did)
mayhem like me said:
Think I may have to try S off , tried to get back to stock and bootloader relocked but stock recovery would not flash,, unlocked again and restored from a backup through Amon ra
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Here is my new guide for S-OFF: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_kRxD5LtazP7vEnr9cDb3iHwWB1ZfJD_yn6xXo7d1bo/edit
It's really very easy - at least it was for me. Using the metronome audio file that I linked to, I was able to successfully complete the wire trick on my first try. It was cake when actually doing it.
Let me know if this helps.
topgun1953 said:
you need to be unlocked if you want to flash recoveries. You should have flashed the stock recovery and then relocked. (if I'm understanding what you did)
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hmm I dont remember...lol will flashing stock recovery take away SU and bring me stock? running another nand back up now...
mayhem like me said:
hmm I dont remember...lol will flashing stock recovery take away SU and bring me stock? running another nand back up now...
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Flashing a different recovery doesn't modify the rom.
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mayhem like me said:
hmm I dont remember...lol will flashing stock recovery take away SU and bring me stock? running another nand back up now...
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Flashing a recovery won't affect root. The OTA will break root, but it's simple to restore. That's the easy part.
What I think you should do first is achieve S-OFF (you do not need to re-lock if you achieve S-OFF. It's easy, and it makes switching ROMs easier).
Then flash stock recovery.
Then accept OTA update(s).
Then unlock again (rather than mess with your bootloader).
Then flash superSU to restore root.
All per my instructions. I think they will make it easy as possible for you. The hardest thing, I think, is trying to find a step-by-step guide on all of this.
Just my opinion. There's a lot of info out there, but it's hard to sort through which steps you should choose to do, and when you should do them.
I'm needing to take my phone into sprint because I believe my digitizer needs replaced. The screen keeps freezing and clicking random things without me touching it. Tried different roms and kernels do figured it must be hardware issue.
Anyhow I'm needing to keep my hboot s-off because my laptop craped out on me this week and wont be able to re root and s-off again without my laptop working.
All I'm wanting to do is make my phone look stock by putting a stock unrooted rom on it so sprint can replace the digitizer.I've looked on the web n can only find a stock rooted rom but where can I get a stock unrooted rom? Thanks
scottypeterson said:
All I'm wanting to do is make my phone look stock by putting a stock unrooted rom on it so sprint can replace the digitizer.I've looked on the web n can only find a stock rooted rom but where can I get a stock unrooted rom? Thanks
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Easiest way is to flash the RUU.exe from Windows or the zip version of the RUU from the bootloader. That will return everything to stock including the bootloader and recovery, but leave you S-OFF so you can just flash a custom bootloader and recovery after they repair the phone and you will be back in business.
ramjet73
ramjet73 said:
Easiest way is to flash the RUU.exe from Windows or the zip version of the RUU from the bootloader. That will return everything to stock including the bootloader and recovery, but leave you S-OFF so you can just flash a custom bootloader and recovery after they repair the phone and you will be back in business.
ramjet73
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Awesome. I didn't know I could install the ruu thru the bootloader. Thanks for your help!
scottypeterson said:
Awesome. I didn't know I could install the ruu thru the bootloader. Thanks for your help!
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You'll need the .zip version from this post to do that. The one at the top is the latest (Sprint ICS 2.89.651.2).
ramjet73
When my digitizer went out, I took mine in rooted and they fixed it no questions asked. In fact, one tech asked me about my team custom splash screen I made and another loved the skin I was running.
But, I understand not wanting to give them any reason to argue.
ramjet73 said:
Easiest way is to flash the RUU.exe from Windows or the zip version of the RUU from the bootloader. That will return everything to stock including the bootloader and recovery, but leave you S-OFF so you can just flash a custom bootloader and recovery after they repair the phone and you will be back in business.
ramjet73
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By chance do you know which custom recovery I can install thru the 1.58 hboot?
scottypeterson said:
By chance do you know which custom recovery I can install thru the 1.58 hboot?
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If you are S-OFF a PG86IMG.zip version of any custom recovery should work.
ramjet73
ramjet73 said:
If you are S-OFF a PG86IMG.zip version of any custom recovery should work.
ramjet73
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I got the recovery installed. I tried to install a version of twrp but it hung at the splash screen and figured it had to do with the hboot. I just re downloaded it and installed again and it worked. Thanks.
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I was was at sprint earlier and they don't have the parts to fix my phone so they have to order me a new phone. Should be in by Monday. I just wanted to have root until then. Appreciate your help!
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Hey guys i gota semi bricked EVO LTE on the 3.16 SW i was wondering if anyone can help me fix. I tried to root it and thats what caused this issue. I did the bootloader unlocked, loaded TWRP recovery, then installed SU, then it wouldn't turn on, would only flash to sprint screen.
I have tried to to a full wipe / factory - didn't work
i have tried to load the 3.15 RUU - does not work (it just shows loading the rom forever)
i have tried to load it through fastboot via Ulimited.IO (it just freezes during the loading of the SW)
what else can i try? I seems like everytime the phone tries to take a ROM it will just not respond.
thanks
OK your on the latest firmware I think 3.16 and if your s-on that means you have the new touch panel driver which limits what ROMs will work on your device.
You need to download a ROM with a s-on installer included or pull the boot IMG from the ROM and flash via fast boot because you can't flash kernels easily when your S-ON .You also will need a rom that's compatible with the latest fw. AFAIK most of the sense ROMs will be good to go, I really don't know which ones cause I'm s-off and don't have the tp driver problem.
If you need more info there's s thread stickied in Q&A called "don't panic" that will answer most of questions
Once your up and running you should go about getting S-Off.
SENT FROM MY LTEVO
corcgaigh said:
OK your on the latest firmware I think 3.16 and if your s-on that means you have the new touch panel driver which limits what ROMs will work on your device.
You need to download a ROM with a s-on installer included or pull the boot IMG from the ROM and flash via fast boot because you can't flash kernels easily when your S-ON .You also will need a rom that's compatible with the latest fw. AFAIK most of the sense ROMs will be good to go, I really don't know which ones cause I'm s-off and don't have the tp driver problem.
If you need more info there's s thread stickied in Q&A called "don't panic" that will answer most of questions
Once your up and running you should go about getting S-Off.
SENT FROM MY LTEVO
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thanks for the info. So i need to get a rom with s-on installer and flash it via fastboot flash zip xxxxxx.zip? But i'm not even sure if i'm rooted. I did install the SU in there, it said okay, but now i cant access the recovery. only fastboot. would this damage the phone in anyways?
thanks
right now its showing
**tampered***
** relocked **
** security warning**
Jewel PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT - 2.09
RADIO - 1.12.11.1210
OpenDSP - V31.1.0.45.0815
emmc- Boot
oct 18 2012
I just tried to flash MeanBean v309 on it via fastboot and it didn't work? is it because the file is too big? I am pretty sure the bean mean is a S-on ROM
Looks like u need to unlock again. Use the same command as the last time
"Fast boot OEM unlock" or whatever it is. Flash twrp recovery thru fast boot. Once you have twrp installed flash a rooted ROM to gain root.
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corcgaigh said:
Looks like u need to unlock again. Use the same command as the last time
"Fast boot OEM unlock" or whatever it is. Flash twrp recovery thru fast boot. Once you have twrp installed flash a rooted ROM to gain root.
SENT FROM MY LTEVO
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took your advice, re-unlocked it and installed TWRP recovery on it, and now i get recovery, but i cant use it because the touch screen does not work so i'm in the process of trying to find a CMW recovery instead and try to install a newer rom.
truwrxtacy said:
took your advice, re-unlocked it and installed TWRP recovery on it, and now i get recovery, but i cant use it because the touch screen does not work so i'm in the process of trying to find a CMW recovery instead and try to install a newer rom.
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Do not use CMW. It was abandoned a long time ago for our phones. Something about it screwing up partitions. Install a new version of TWRP. 2.4 or higher. And Venom rom has an s-on installer for sure. Other roms might have one but I'm not sure which ones. Stay away from CMW.
The s-on installer is just an installer added to the ROM zip so that you don't have to flash the boot.img seperately. Just get a working version of TWRP and flash Venom (or other s-on friendly rom). That should work.
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Do not use CMW. It was abandoned a long time ago for our phones. Something about it screwing up partitions. Install a new version of TWRP. 2.4 or higher. And Venom rom has an s-on installer for sure. Other roms might have one but I'm not sure which ones. Stay away from CMW.
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ahh okay thanks, i'll give it a shot and report back.
truwrxtacy said:
ahh okay thanks, i'll give it a shot and report back.
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thanks guys so i got it working! i appreciate everyones help! I ended up loading a new TWRP recovery, and loading the new Meanbean and it works now.
I have one last question, does this mean i can only install roms compatible with 3.16 now? The only reason i went through all of this was because i wanted ICS on it. The new JB diag drivers dont work, and the only way i can make the diag drivers work is to downgrade to ICS. If i try to downgrade will i mess it up again?
thanks
truwrxtacy said:
thanks guys so i got it working! i appreciate everyones help! I ended up loading a new TWRP recovery, and loading the new Meanbean and it works now.
I have one last question, does this mean i can only install roms compatible with 3.16 now? The only reason i went through all of this was because i wanted ICS on it. The new JB diag drivers dont work, and the only way i can make the diag drivers work is to downgrade to ICS. If i try to downgrade will i mess it up again?
thanks
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Yes, you are stuck on 3.16 roms. Anything below and your touchscreen won't work. I highly recommend going for s-off. Makes everything so much easier. The only other option is to use babyracun from unlimited.io then ruu to 3.15. But if you're doing that you might as well go for s-off.
tilltheend714 said:
Yes, you are stuck on 3.16 roms. Anything below and your touchscreen won't work. I highly recommend going for s-off. Makes everything so much easier. The only other option is to use babyracun from unlimited.io then ruu to 3.15. But if you're doing that you might as well go for s-off.
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Agreed. I did babyracun and then Facepalm afterwards. Worked great on Windows 7 64bit of which isn't supported by the developers, of course
Delakit said:
Agreed. I did babyracun and then Facepalm afterwards. Worked great on Windows 7 64bit of which isn't supported by the developers, of course
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Which is what this guy should do since he doesn't have ubuntu and probably doesn't want to use a live disc.
thanks alot guys, i was not aware of the babyracoon. I'll give that a shot.
thanks
i have a question about baby racoon, as it does not have a separate thing for it.
So do i download baby racoon and run all the adb commands, and then run face palm, then ruu?
or do i download baby racoon and run all the adb commands, and ruu then face palm?
sorry i'm a noob
truwrxtacy said:
thanks alot guys, i was not aware of the babyracoon. I'll give that a shot.
thanks
i have a question about baby racoon, as it does not have a separate thing for it.
So do i download baby racoon and run all the adb commands, and then run face palm, then ruu?
or do i download baby racoon and run all the adb commands, and ruu then face palm?
sorry i'm a noob
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Do steps 6-9 on unlimited io. That will leave your phone at stock 3.15. Then go and find out what facepalm requires and continue with that.