Hello. I'm new to the whole flashing and rooting process. Last time I hacked a phone was waaayyyy back in 2004 or 2005 when I used to hack my Motorola v505. The question I have is do you have to root your phone before flashing it? If not, what exactly can I do after flashing my phone?
BUBBYLEE said:
Hello. I'm new to the whole flashing and rooting process. Last time I hacked a phone was waaayyyy back in 2004 or 2005 when I used to hack my Motorola v505. The question I have is do you have to root your phone before flashing it? If not, what exactly can I do after flashing my phone?
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Yes, you should root before flash....if reversed, you might have to flash again.
I get what your saying kinda. But what I wonder is if I could flash my phone without having to root to get it to do certain things. Would there be a benefit for flashing instead of rooting? Such as would I be able to use custom themes or roms or anything along those lines JUST by flashing? Is there anything I can do by only flashing my Evo 3D?
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is your devise cdma or is it a gsm ethere way you would have to unlock the bootloader and install a custom recovery and then you can flash a rom and if you want full nand unlock and s off then you would need to down grade your hboot number as well
My Evo 3D is cdma I believe. And being that I purchased it December 26 I believe that the hboot is the 1.50. So assuming I downgrade and unlock the bootloader all I have to do is flash to use a custom rom? No root?
I believe you will have to root your phone or the flash a rom because your hboot has to be s off for you to flash recovery which would let you flash a rom
I would recommend close ones downgrade iso . 1.5 can only be unlocked using htcs hboot unlock. and to be honest I don't like them knowing what I do with my phone .follow the steps on his guide and you should be able to downgrade to 1.4
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louforgiveno said:
Yes, you should root before flash....if reversed, you might have to flash again.
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its opposite LOL.......you unlock bootloader first , then flash recovery and then flash any Rom or a flashable superuser.zip which will root your phone.
@OP
You can unlock your bootloader using htcdev.com if you don't want to downgrade.
After unlocking, I suggest to flash 4ext recovery as it can flash boot partitions even though you are s-on....then you can flash any custom ROMs of your choice .You don't need root to flash ROMs or other stuffs , you need a unlocked bootloader to flash. Root is just having superuser app and binary in your phones system ... Once your bootloader is unlocked you can flash any ROMs . All custom ROMs here comes pre rooted
mnomaanw said:
its opposite LOL.......you unlock bootloader first , then flash recovery and then flash any Rom or a flashable superuser.zip which will root your phone.
@OP
You can unlock your bootloader using htcdev.com if you don't want to downgrade.
After unlocking, I suggest to flash 4ext recovery as it can flash boot partitions even though you are s-on....then you can flash any custom ROMs of your choice .You don't need root to flash ROMs or other stuffs , you need a unlocked bootloader to flash. Root is just having superuser app and binary in your phones system ... Once your bootloader is unlocked you can flash any ROMs . All custom ROMs here comes pre rooted
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Ok so from my understanding of what you said, all i have to do is unlock the bootloader with htcdev.com, then use something called 4ext, then im good to go and can flash roms? Also, once i do this will i be able to intall some kind of screen rotation animation to my evo3d? I would like a nice animation and so would that be possible to do if i follow the above steps? and thank all of you for your help.
@bubbylee,
See the Hboot 1.50 guide in my signature if ur not planning on the Hboot downgrade to 1.40 yet. Lots of details/answers to common questions to help u along.
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BUBBYLEE said:
Ok so from my understanding of what you said, all i have to do is unlock the bootloader with htcdev.com, then use something called 4ext, then im good to go and can flash roms? Also, once i do this will i be able to intall some kind of screen rotation animation to my evo3d? I would like a nice animation and so would that be possible to do if i follow the above steps? and thank all of you for your help.
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Yes you can do everything what hboot 1.4 users can, except flashing radios/firmware.....I still suggest to downgrade the hboot as it makes your phone fully unlocked . Hboot 1.5 needs PC for flashing some stuffs. You cannot flash PG86IMGs without relocking your bootloader if you are on hbooot 1.5 .
For transition effects and anims , there is an app in the play store which works on every phone and every Rom provided your phone Rom is rooted......
NOTE: Unlocking bootloader will void some parts of your warranty...
This stuff is confusing and complicated lol I folowed the guide and ive hit a spot where the guide says i need a linux pc to downgrade from 1.5 to 1.4 i believe. So no go lol i only have windows. but its poible for me to flash without downgrading right? ill take that route if possible.
BUBBYLEE said:
This stuff is confusing and complicated lol I folowed the guide and ive hit a spot where the guide says i need a linux pc to downgrade from 1.5 to 1.4 i believe. So no go lol i only have windows. but its poible for me to flash without downgrading right? ill take that route if possible.
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Hi there BUBBYLEE. Check out the CD in my signature. That should help you with the downgrade. No installation of Linux required.
~co~
BUBBYLEE said:
This stuff is confusing and complicated lol I folowed the guide and ive hit a spot where the guide says i need a linux pc to downgrade from 1.5 to 1.4 i believe. So no go lol i only have windows. but its poible for me to flash without downgrading right? ill take that route if possible.
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Yeah its so easy , try closeone's disc. it a live cd meaning you don't need to install Linux, just insert the disc and Linux will boot up. I downgraded hboot too and I had never used Linux before .
BUBBYLEE said:
Hello. I'm new to the whole flashing and rooting process. Last time I hacked a phone was waaayyyy back in 2004 or 2005 when I used to hack my Motorola v505. The question I have is do you have to root your phone before flashing it? If not, what exactly can I do after flashing my phone?
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mnomaanw said:
its opposite LOL.......you unlock bootloader first , then flash recovery and then flash any Rom or a flashable superuser.zip which will root your phone.
@OP
You can unlock your bootloader using htcdev.com if you don't want to downgrade.
After unlocking, I suggest to flash 4ext recovery as it can flash boot partitions even though you are s-on....then you can flash any custom ROMs of your choice .You don't need root to flash ROMs or other stuffs , you need a unlocked bootloader to flash. Root is just having superuser app and binary in your phones system ... Once your bootloader is unlocked you can flash any ROMs . All custom ROMs here comes pre rooted
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I thought he wanted to "flash" to another carrier LOL.....
@bubbylee obviously ignore my first post, thought you were asking something else.
mnomaanw said:
@OP
You can unlock your bootloader using htcdev.com if you don't want to downgrade.
After unlocking, I suggest to flash 4ext recovery as it can flash boot partitions even though you are s-on....then you can flash any custom ROMs of your choice .You don't need root to flash ROMs or other stuffs , you need a unlocked bootloader to flash. Root is just having superuser app and binary in your phones system ... Once your bootloader is unlocked you can flash any ROMs . All custom ROMs here comes pre rooted
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So are you saying that if i flash then install a custom pre rooted rom from here that my phone will be rooted just from flashing a pre rooted rom? Also, I believe I'm going to go the HTC.dev route. Seems simple enough and make little more sense to me.
BUBBYLEE said:
My Evo 3D is cdma I believe. And being that I purchased it December 26 I believe that the hboot is the 1.50. So assuming I downgrade and unlock the bootloader all I have to do is flash to use a custom rom? No root?
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Well in my understanding CDMA doesn't need a SIM card and GSM does. So maybe that'll help you answer the question
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BUBBYLEE said:
So are you saying that if i flash then install a custom pre rooted rom from here that my phone will be rooted just from flashing a pre rooted rom? Also, I believe I'm going to go the HTC.dev route. Seems simple enough and make little more sense to me.
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The HTC dev method gave me problems with the WiMAX so if you don't use or have WiMAX use the HTC dev method. But again Closeone's bootable linux live cd is just as easy as HTC dev and is getting easier. Plus , its better to have s-off since its easier to flash roms (Unless you have 4ext recovery) then you'll be in hboot 1.4 and you could update (using another method so that you don't lose s-off) back to hboot 1.5. . If you want I'll give you links to make you're life easier.
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Jimlarck said:
The HTC dev method gave me problems with the WiMAX so if you don't use or have WiMAX use the HTC dev method. But again Closeone's bootable linux live cd is just as easy as HTC dev and is getting easier. Plus , its better to have s-off since its easier to flash roms (Unless you have 4ext recovery) then you'll be in hboot 1.4 and you could update (using another method so that you don't lose s-off) back to hboot 1.5. . If you want I'll give you links to make you're life easier.
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Ok lol I think Ive grown the balls to flash/root my evo3d. I'm as ready now as I'll ever be. Im ready lol so I just follow the guide and im good to go hopefully. lets do this
BUBBYLEE said:
Ok lol I think Ive grown the balls to flash/root my evo3d. I'm as ready now as I'll ever be. Im ready lol so I just follow the guide and im good to go hopefully. lets do this
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If you've decided to use the downgrade method, step-by-step instructions are in post #3 of the thread in my signature. If you need any help, you're welcome to post in the thread.
It's not as scary as it looks, but it's something where you'll have to follow directions carefully.
~co~
BUBBYLEE said:
Ok lol I think Ive grown the balls to flash/root my evo3d. I'm as ready now as I'll ever be. Im ready lol so I just follow the guide and im good to go hopefully. lets do this
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Ok, I'll be online and constantly checking the thread so if any questions post here. And use Closeone's cd, Highly recommended
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i need help on this i unlocked the bootloader through htc but when i go min to the bootloader it doesnt let me choose anything plz help.
did u root your evo 3d?
idk i thought thats what unlocked bootloader software was
unlocking the bootloader is different. u have to root your evo 3d first, then you can flash roms.
oh ok what did you use to root it
use this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192245
He doesnt have to root to flash roms, after he unlocks all he has to do is flash a recovery and then he can flash whatever he wants. But keep in mind since you unlocked with HTC you will have to flash the kernel separately or use the method in this post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1224781&page=29
thats true actually haha...but better to be rooted and s-off rather than just s-off.
shaanwarrior said:
thats true actually haha...but better to be rooted and s-off rather than just s-off.
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but if he roots and then flashes a rom, that rom will most likely be rooted already. viperrom is pre rooted. So if he roots, installs recovery and then flashes a rom that rooting he did is just an extra step that doesnt need to get done since when he flashes viper it will get overwritten. If he was staying on the stock rom then he should root it, but pretty much all of the roms have root built in(except the RUU stock roms)
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but if he roots and then flashes a rom, that rom will most likely be rooted already. viperrom is pre rooted. So if he roots, installs recovery and then flashes a rom that rooting he did is just an extra step that doesnt need to get done since when he flashes viper it will get overwritten. If he was staying on the stock rom then he should root it, but pretty much all of the roms have root built in(except the RUU stock roms)
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ahhhh i see...sorry bout that. didnt realize that.
I have a completely stock 3D with hboot 1.5, s-on, software 2.17. I want to gain root access in order to flash custom roms and such.
I saw a walk through on how to do this via HTCdev bootloader. I've also read about downgrading to hboot 1.4 and achieving s-off.
What are the advantages of downgrading to 1.4 and achieving s-off vs. sticking with 1.5 and s-on by using the HTCdev method?
Well fort you want be registered as having messed with your device to prevent a void in your warranty. The others are you can flash without any programs needed to install a kernel also you can flash splash screens. Flashing radios is also a benefit of soff. But soff will allow you to actually brick your device vs having just bootloader unlocked.
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patrao_n said:
Well fort you want be registered as having messed with your device to prevent a void in your warranty. The others are you can flash without any programs needed to install a kernel also you can flash splash screens. Flashing radios is also a benefit of soff. But soff will allow you to actually brick your device vs having just bootloader unlocked.
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So s-off is going to give me more access. Essentially the better option if I'm willing to take the risk?
Everything I've read about downgrading to 1.4 and getting s-off is via Linux... Is there a way to do this from Windows 7 instead?
AmbrosiaLyn07 said:
So s-off is going to give me more access. Essentially the better option if I'm willing to take the risk?
Everything I've read about downgrading to 1.4 and getting s-off is via Linux... Is there a way to do this from Windows 7 instead?
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not yet...windows devices will not recognize the eMMC in the device...only linux does it,... which is not hard...just download a usb version of linux...run it from your flash drive and it works just fine....did it with my puter successfully ...and yes it is better...like you said though...IF youre willing to take the risk
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not yet...windows devices will not recognize the eMMC in the device...only linux does it,... which is not hard...just download a usb version of linux...run it from your flash drive and it works just fine....did it with my puter successfully ...and yes it is better...like you said though...IF youre willing to take the risk
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Alright, sounds like a plan. I will probably wait until my roommate gets home. I don't have any spare flash drives lying around
Thank you for your help!
AmbrosiaLyn07 said:
Alright, sounds like a plan. I will probably wait until my roommate gets home. I don't have any spare flash drives lying around
Thank you for your help!
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Keep this in mind... S-off is great but you can fully permabrick your device with s-off, hard to do but it can be done. S-on blows but I'm pretty sure you can fix anything but a hardware failure with the unbrick method.
AmbrosiaLyn07 said:
Alright, sounds like a plan. I will probably wait until my roommate gets home. I don't have any spare flash drives lying around
Thank you for your help!
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If I might suggest, take a look at the CD in my signature. There is a guide in post #3. It should help to ease the process a bit.
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wikdNoob said:
Keep this in mind... S-off is great but you can fully permabrick your device with s-off, hard to do but it can be done. S-on blows but I'm pretty sure you can fix anything but a hardware failure with the unbrick method.
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I'm willing to take the risk. I've done a lot of reading and my roommate is familiar with what he's doing.
Now, I just have to wait for him to come home... I'm tired of waiting, I just want it to be done already!
closeone said:
If I might suggest, take a look at the CD in my signature. There is a guide in post #3. It should help to ease the process a bit.
~co~
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Thank you so much for your help! I really appreciate it.
AmbrosiaLyn07 said:
I have a completely stock 3D with hboot 1.5, s-on, software 2.17. I want to gain root access in order to flash custom roms and such.
I saw a walk through on how to do this via HTCdev bootloader. I've also read about downgrading to hboot 1.4 and achieving s-off.
What are the advantages of downgrading to 1.4 and achieving s-off vs. sticking with 1.5 and s-on by using the HTCdev method?
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You don't need to achieve root access to flash ROMs or kernels.....unlocking your bootloader via HTC dev or revolutionary is just fine
My vote to hboot 1.4 S-OFF
mnomaanw said:
You don't need to achieve root access to flash ROMs or kernels.....unlocking your bootloader via HTC dev or revolutionary is just fine
My vote to hboot 1.4 S-OFF
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Since my roommate is doing it for me (his computers and computer knowledge are way more capable than mine) I let him decide which way he was going to do it. We ended up going with the HTC bootloader unlock.
We got it successfully unlocked through the bootloader but it still doesn't have root access. Like, apps that require root won't work and he can't get anything to flash on it. Suggestions?
AmbrosiaLyn07 said:
Since my roommate is doing it for me (his computers and computer knowledge are way more capable than mine) I let him decide which way he was going to do it. We ended up going with the HTC bootloader unlock.
We got it successfully unlocked through the bootloader but it still doesn't have root access. Like, apps that require root won't work and he can't get anything to flash on it. Suggestions?
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Do you have a custom recovery installed on it after you rooted htc dev method? Also did you flash superusers on it?
reaper24 said:
Do you have a custom recovery installed on it after you rooted htc dev method? Also did you flash superusers on it?
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I think he's trying to get a custom recovery on it now (twrp). And he's mentioned something about superuser.
But he seems frustrated like something went wrong :-/
reaper24 said:
Do you have a custom recovery installed on it after you rooted htc dev method? Also did you flash superusers on it?
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Now he's talking about cwm but doesn't seem to be able to find a file that works.
AmbrosiaLyn07 said:
Now he's talking about cwm but doesn't seem to be able to find a file that works.
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clockworkmod 4.0.1.4 -------> http://db.tt/hm3wkw1q
clockworkmod touch 5.8.0.2 --------> http://db.tt/yKUegldi
TWRP 1.1.1 -------> http://db.tt/ZrIEWf2B
TWRP touch 2.0 -------> http://db.tt/qHgIUljj
Recoveries versions other than these doesn't seem to work with hboot 1.5
CWM touch have a few bugs in this version , they may have fixed in the latest....
I suggest to try the 4ext recovery....
If you want to root your phone first flash any of these recovery using fastboot or flash image gui
then go to recovery flash this zip if you want SuperSU by Chainfire----------> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
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this one if you want Superuser by ChainsDD---->
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312971
and your stock Rom will be rooted...
you can always flash custom ROMs , they come pre rooted , so after flashing any recovery just flash any ROMs zip. file.....then you will have custom Rom with root access....
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clockworkmod 4.0.1.4 -------> http://db.tt/hm3wkw1q
clockworkmod touch 5.8.0.2 --------> http://db.tt/yKUegldi
TWRP 1.1.1 -------> http://db.tt/ZrIEWf2B
TWRP touch 2.0 -------> http://db.tt/qHgIUljj
Recoveries versions other than these doesn't seem to work with hboot 1.5
CWM touch have a few bugs in this version , they may have fixed in the latest....
I suggest to try the 4ext recovery....
If you want to root your phone first flash any of these recovery using fastboot or flash image gui
then go to recovery flash this zip if you want SuperSU by Chainfire----------> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
OR
this one if you want Superuser by ChainsDD---->
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312971
and your stock Rom will be rooted...
you can always flash custom ROMs , they come pre rooted , so after flashing any recovery just flash any ROMs zip. file.....then you will have custom Rom with root access....
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Go for the CWM 4.0 never had any issues .. The lateset CWM has funky issues..
mnomaanw said:
clockworkmod 4.0.1.4 -------> http://db.tt/hm3wkw1q
clockworkmod touch 5.8.0.2 --------> http://db.tt/yKUegldi
TWRP 1.1.1 -------> http://db.tt/ZrIEWf2B
TWRP touch 2.0 -------> http://db.tt/qHgIUljj
Recoveries versions other than these doesn't seem to work with hboot 1.5
CWM touch have a few bugs in this version , they may have fixed in the latest....
I suggest to try the 4ext recovery....
If you want to root your phone first flash any of these recovery using fastboot or flash image gui
then go to recovery flash this zip if you want SuperSU by Chainfire----------> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
OR
this one if you want Superuser by ChainsDD---->
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312971
and your stock Rom will be rooted...
you can always flash custom ROMs , they come pre rooted , so after flashing any recovery just flash any ROMs zip. file.....then you will have custom Rom with root access....
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Thank you so much! That is awesome! I really appreciate you getting those all in one place for me.
I finally have root access and am currently running infected rom eternity and am super stoked!
reaper24 - Thank you for your input as well. I got the cwm 4... my roommate just tried to do something by going to one of the newer versions... Whatever it was he was trying to do didn't work and he went back to 4, so I'll definitely be sticking with that for now.
Next order of business... unlocking my friends' phone. She got hers in January (preloaded with hboot1.5 and 2.17). Can't get it to unlock via HTC bootloader unlock. I did read that there is a problem getting the newer ones that shipped with the updated software to unlock. I understand you need the 2.08 RUU. I found an active link and downloaded the file... Now what do I do with the thing?
Where did you find the working ruu I need one. I honestly think you just rename it to pg86img put it on the root of your sd card and hold down vol down and power. Once it loads into bootloafer it will scan the file and ask you if you want to flash it over.
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AmbrosiaLyn07 said:
Thank you so much! That is awesome! I really appreciate you getting those all in one place for me.
I finally have root access and am currently running infected rom eternity and am super stoked!
reaper24 - Thank you for your input as well. I got the cwm 4... my roommate just tried to do something by going to one of the newer versions... Whatever it was he was trying to do didn't work and he went back to 4, so I'll definitely be sticking with that for now.
Next order of business... unlocking my friends' phone. She got hers in January (preloaded with hboot1.5 and 2.17). Can't get it to unlock via HTC bootloader unlock. I did read that there is a problem getting the newer ones that shipped with the updated software to unlock. I understand you need the 2.08 RUU. I found an active link and downloaded the file... Now what do I do with the thing?
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If her phone has 2.17 then you can't run the 2.08. You need to run the 2.17 and then you can unlock it. I had to do that too.
For those of you going for the HTC Unlock (vs downgrade) i think maany of your questions & detailed walkthru can be found in the guide in my signature.
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I have an HTC EVO 3D That I purchased yesterday, and It's been flashed to Boost Mobile (A company owned and operated by Sprint) Boost is a CDMA service. I am interested in rooting my device, but when I tried this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1218193 I was stopped because my HBOOT isn't supported. Baffled, I went searching the forums and found this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547695 unfortunately, I'm not sure if it's safe to proceed with this procedure, because I wasn't there when my phone was flashed, and I don't know if HTC Dev was used. Furthermore, I don;t know if I have S-On of S-OFF, because I didn't flash my phone. Also, it has come to my understanding that linux is required for that method of HBOOT downgrade. Is there any way I can avoid that? It's kind of a lot of trouble.
You can check if you're s-on or s-off by looking at the top of the hboot screen. Pull the batt, put it back in, hold vol down + power.
If you don't have s-off, the downgrade is easy, linux is easy. After the downgrade you have to use revolutionary.io to achieve s-off and it'll likely screw up your boost flash. I'll edit with a thread link for prepping to downgrade with a carrier flashed phone.
Edit... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1646815
wikdNoob said:
You can check if you're s-on or s-off by looking at the top of the hboot screen. Pull the batt, put it back in, hold vol down + power.
If you don't have s-off, the downgrade is easy, linux is easy. After the downgrade you have to use revolutionary.io to achieve s-off and it'll likely screw up your boost flash. I'll edit with a thread link for prepping to downgrade with a carrier flashed phone.
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Hboot says I have S-ON. By following the steps in that link you'll give, will I be able to restore my flash without losing MMS and 3G, etc.?
I'm really not sure, I've never flashed a phone. If you don't mind me asking, why do you want s-off? It's nice to have because it makes flashing roms easier but its not required to flash roms, and if your not sure you can flash your phone back, its probably not worth the risk.
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I'm really not sure, I've never flashed a phone. If you don't mind me asking, why do you want s-off? It's nice to have because it makes flashing roms easier but its not required to flash roms, and if your not sure you can flash your phone back, its probably not worth the risk.
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Well the whole idea is that i need to downgrade HBOOT in order to root, and I was under the impression that to downgrade Hboot i needed to have S-OFF.
No, you just need to unlock at htcdev. Then you can root, give me a sec and ill give you another link. Once you think you can flash your phone to boost, I suggest getting s-off. Just less issues with s-off flashing.
Edit... A lot of guides out there, check the roll up sticky thread. This one will probably work. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239821
wikdNoob said:
No, you just need to unlock at htcdev. Then you can root, give me a sec and ill give you another link. Once you think you can flash your phone to boost, I suggest getting s-off. Just less issues with s-off flashing.
Edit... A lot of guides out there, check the roll up sticky thread. This one will probably work. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239821
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THank man, i wish i could click thanks a thousand times. I'll try this method and see what i get.
Any time.. btw, you might be able to do the wire trick to get s-off without messing up the flash. It's in the dev section, called something like junoputabear s-off. Ask in that thread, maybe someone will know.
wikdNoob said:
Any time.. btw, you might be able to do the wire trick to get s-off without messing up the flash. It's in the dev section, called something like junoputabear s-off. Ask in that thread, maybe someone will know.
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I got root, and recovery but for some reason the fastboot method wher you extrtact the boot.img and use fastboot to load recovery doesn't work for ICS roms, they bootloop. I found a working Gingerbread rom and I like it. Only issue is i wanted an ICS app. Btw, which gapps should I flash for 2.3.4?
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I got root, and recovery but for some reason the fastboot method wher you extrtact the boot.img and use fastboot to load recovery doesn't work for ICS roms, they bootloop. I found a working Gingerbread rom and I like it. Only issue is i wanted an ICS app.
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From what I remember, if you boot a recovery from fastboot (fastboot boot recovery.img), you wouldn't need to extract any boot image. When you boot a recovery from fastboot, you'll be able to write to the boot partition, so all you need to do is flash the rom and it should work. With that said, I've read a lot of times that flashing ics roms with s-on will cause bootloops. I've never seen that personally, I was s-off before ics came along.
Btw, which gapps should I flash for 2.3.4?
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You probably know this but ill say it just incase. You only flash gapps on aosp roms. I think all the ics gapps say ics in the name, and most of the time gapps for any rom are linked in the same thread as the rom.
Look at your pm in a little bit. I'm gonna send you some stuff that'll help you figure out how to correctly flash a phone so that you can s-off without worry. I can't really post it here.
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Search has failed me, I have a rezound that i rooted after unlocking the bootloader and using hansons toolkit..
What is the best way to get to stock so I can accept the ICS update and re root?
I am familiar with how to relock my bootloader..
Thank you all
PS I called verizon today because my rezound is a bit fishy with the charger wanting to replace it to under warranty , they no longer have them available and are shipping the Razr Maxx as a substitute...UGGGH.
Don't accept that Motorola garbage.... Less processor speed and terrible screen also less dev support. Oh and you don't need to get back to stock to get ics just flash the ics ota in bootloader
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please forgive my ignorance how do I flash the over the air update on to my phone from the bootloader mode
mayhem like me said:
Search has failed me, I have a rezound that i rooted after unlocking the bootloader and using hansons toolkit..
What is the best way to get to stock so I can accept the ICS update and re root?
I am familiar with how to relock my bootloader..
Thank you all
PS I called verizon today because my rezound is a bit fishy with the charger wanting to replace it to under warranty , they no longer have them available and are shipping the Razr Maxx as a substitute...UGGGH.
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I've created a guide for rooted users to install the official ICS over-the-air: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tmlh4OnplVfBNSjSyXfTYIVGfyb9lgI6ABpfg7gHY44/edit
I'm also working on a guide to restore root after installing ICS. It's not too bad at all, it's just finding a simple guide that's the trick... For restoring root after ICS, you can see my response here, where I reference discussions where I asked the same questions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1829484
mayhem like me said:
please forgive my ignorance how do I flash the over the air update on to my phone from the bootloader mode
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but you wouldn't do that for the over the air update.
You would need to flash stock recovery (assuming you've flashed a custom recovery), and then they can install the update through Android, like normal.
The guide i posted takes you through this process, as i did it.
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mayhem like me said:
PS I called verizon today because my rezound is a bit fishy with the charger wanting to replace it to under warranty , they no longer have them available and are shipping the Razr Maxx as a substitute...UGGGH.
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Oh, and if you flashed Clockwork Mod, this is likely causing your charging problems. This is why i used AR Recovery 3.15 instead.
You can either take the OTA update or install an RUU.
Both ways, you have to relocked your bootloader or S-OFF.
For the OTA, you should be stock everything.
Stock recovery and rom.
For an RUU, just make sure you are on a rom that matches your firmware.
Gingerbread ROM on Gingerbread firmware.
Sent from my NeoMax Rezound
I have amon ra and I was responding to the first answer, I will try your method, do I have to go stock first or will the first step in your guide put me back to stock recovery, then relock bootloader .
mayhem like me said:
I have amon ra and I was responding to the first answer, I will try your method, do I have to go stock first or will the first step in your guide put me back to stock recovery, then relock bootloader .
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For the OTA, you need to be stock everything or it won't install. This is why I included instructions on how to revert back to stock recovery before trying the OTA.
You do not need to re-lock your hboot if you have S-OFF. What happens is that the OTA update re-locks the bootloader and you have to unlock it again if you want to play with your device (like, re-install AR Recovery). Or, if you have S-Off, you can install a different hboot that's already unlocked, and then you can flash custom recoveries, etc. But since messing with the hboot is very risky, I chose to re-unlock my hboot the HTC way after installing the OTA.
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The OTA may have worked for me with an unlocked hboot because I was S-Off prior to updating. If you're not S-Off, you may indeed need to re-lock before updating.
However, it may be just as easy to get S-Off. It's actually very easy. I will make a very easy guide for this as well. Let me know, and I can help you through it. I'm not an expert, but it doesn't take an expert. The hardest part for me was just finding a good, uncomplicated guide - doesn't seem to be one at the moment, though there is a ton of info out there.
Anyway, let me know if you want help getting S-Off.
bloodymurderlive said:
For the OTA, you need to be stock everything or it won't install. This is why I included instructions on how to revert back to stock recovery before trying the OTA.
You do not need to re-lock your hboot if you have S-OFF. What happens is that the OTA update re-locks the bootloader and you have to unlock it again if you want to play with your device (like, re-install AR Recovery). Or, if you have S-Off, you can install a different hboot that's already unlocked, and then you can flash custom recoveries, etc. But since messing with the hboot is very risky, I chose to re-unlock my hboot the HTC way after installing the OTA.
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The OTA may have worked for me with an unlocked hboot because I was S-Off prior to updating. If you're not S-Off, you may indeed need to re-lock before updating.
However, it may be just as easy to get S-Off. It's actually very easy. I will make a very easy guide for this as well. Let me know, and I can help you through it. I'm not an expert, but it doesn't take an expert. The hardest part for me was just finding a good, uncomplicated guide - doesn't seem to be one at the moment, though there is a ton of info out there.
Anyway, let me know if you want help getting S-Off.
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Think I may have to try S off , tried to get back to stock and bootloader relocked but stock recovery would not flash,, unlocked again and restored from a backup through Amon ra
mayhem like me said:
Think I may have to try S off , tried to get back to stock and bootloader relocked but stock recovery would not flash,, unlocked again and restored from a backup through Amon ra
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you need to be unlocked if you want to flash recoveries. You should have flashed the stock recovery and then relocked. (if I'm understanding what you did)
mayhem like me said:
Think I may have to try S off , tried to get back to stock and bootloader relocked but stock recovery would not flash,, unlocked again and restored from a backup through Amon ra
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Here is my new guide for S-OFF: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_kRxD5LtazP7vEnr9cDb3iHwWB1ZfJD_yn6xXo7d1bo/edit
It's really very easy - at least it was for me. Using the metronome audio file that I linked to, I was able to successfully complete the wire trick on my first try. It was cake when actually doing it.
Let me know if this helps.
topgun1953 said:
you need to be unlocked if you want to flash recoveries. You should have flashed the stock recovery and then relocked. (if I'm understanding what you did)
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hmm I dont remember...lol will flashing stock recovery take away SU and bring me stock? running another nand back up now...
mayhem like me said:
hmm I dont remember...lol will flashing stock recovery take away SU and bring me stock? running another nand back up now...
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Flashing a different recovery doesn't modify the rom.
Sent from my NeoMax Rezound
mayhem like me said:
hmm I dont remember...lol will flashing stock recovery take away SU and bring me stock? running another nand back up now...
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Flashing a recovery won't affect root. The OTA will break root, but it's simple to restore. That's the easy part.
What I think you should do first is achieve S-OFF (you do not need to re-lock if you achieve S-OFF. It's easy, and it makes switching ROMs easier).
Then flash stock recovery.
Then accept OTA update(s).
Then unlock again (rather than mess with your bootloader).
Then flash superSU to restore root.
All per my instructions. I think they will make it easy as possible for you. The hardest thing, I think, is trying to find a step-by-step guide on all of this.
Just my opinion. There's a lot of info out there, but it's hard to sort through which steps you should choose to do, and when you should do them.
Hey guys, I have a HTC Amaze running Gingerbread....
I have CWM installed, with ***Unlocked*** PVT SHIP S-ON RL, and the H-Boot is 1.90.0004...
I'm wondering how I can install ICS/JB (step by step would be great, as I got confused reading the other threads)
^ Do I need to flash Stock? Is it possible to flash ICS/JB Without S-Off?
nitrogen618 said:
Hey guys, I have a HTC Amaze running Gingerbread....
I have CWM installed, with ***Unlocked*** PVT SHIP S-ON RL, and the H-Boot is 1.90.0004...
I'm wondering how I can install ICS/JB (step by step would be great, as I got confused reading the other threads)
^ Do I need to flash Stock? Is it possible to flash ICS/JB Without S-Off?
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The bible linked in my signature has all information you need- this is a link that goes directly how to flash ICS firmware. https://docs.google.com/document/d/...a-E_iDtKBuAC9jc/edit#bookmark=id.d02ccdce695a
Also, use 4ext recovery, it is much better, and if you enable smartflash you can flash kernels without s-off. CWM has not been supported for a while and may have issues like not charging while the phone is off. There is a thread about 4ext in one of the forums if you do a search.
Lastly, I am pretty sure you have to relock your bootloader to flash the RUU as the instructions in the above link should show.
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The bible linked in my signature has all information you need- this is a link that goes directly how to flash ICS firmware. https://docs.google.com/document/d/...a-E_iDtKBuAC9jc/edit#bookmark=id.d02ccdce695a
Also, use 4ext recovery, it is much better, and if you enable smartflash you can flash kernels without s-off. CWM has not been supported for a while and may have issues like not charging while the phone is off. There is a thread about 4ext in one of the forums if you do a search.
Lastly, I am pretty sure you have to relock your bootloader to flash the RUU as the instructions in the above link should show.
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Are you feeling righteous today sir? Lol :cyclops:
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Are you feeling righteous today sir? Lol :cyclops:
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Haha.. there's a line in bill and ted's excellent adventure about feeling righteous this made me think of, but I can't find the damn clip So perhaps I feel a little righteous in that way
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Haha.. there's a line in bill and ted's excellent adventure about feeling righteous this made me think of, but I can't find the damn clip So perhaps I feel a little righteous in that way
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Lmao epic, I was actually referring to the amaze bible thread promotion but that fits too lol.
sent from a galaxy you'll never see.
I read the link you gave me, I still don't quite get it...
I'm on GB Right now with CWM installed, can't I just used CWM to flash ICS?
nitrogen618 said:
I read the link you gave me, I still don't quite get it...
I'm on GB Right now with CWM installed, can't I just used CWM to flash ICS?
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No, you have to upgrade to ics via a stock ruu, read that thread properly and not just skim through it.
sent from a galaxy you'll never see.
K. Think I got this..
The steps::
From GB -> ICS
1. Flash Stock ICS RUU
2. Unlock Bootloader again through htcdev
3. Install CWM/4EXT
4. Flash Rom
right?
Do I need to relock the bootloader if I want to flash stock RUU?
nitrogen618 said:
K. Think I got this..
The steps::
From GB -> ICS
1. Flash Stock ICS RUU
2. Unlock Bootloader again through htcdev
3. Install CWM/4EXT
4. Flash Rom
right?
Do I need to relock the bootloader if I want to flash stock RUU?
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1. Relock bootloader
2. Flash Stock ICS RUU
3. Unlock Bootloader again through htcdev
4. Install 4EXT
5. Superwipe/Wipe
6. Flash Rom
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1. Relock bootloader
2. Flash Stock ICS RUU
3. Unlock Bootloader again through htcdev
4. Install 4EXT
5. Superwipe/Wipe
6. Flash Rom
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You don't need to go back to htcdev to unlock the bootloader after update, the old unlock file works fine.
Is it okay to relock bootloader while on a custom rom?
I don't have the old file from HTCDev, so I need to go through the process again...
Thanks!
Btw, can I Flash kernel using hasoon2000 tool to flash kernel with S-ON?
nitrogen618 said:
Is it okay to relock bootloader while on a custom rom?
I don't have the old file from HTCDev, so I need to go through the process again...
Thanks!
Btw, can I Flash kernel using hasoon2000 tool to flash kernel with S-ON?
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Yes and yes, just make sure you have the stock ruu on your sd card renamed PH85IMG.
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You don't need to go back to htcdev to unlock the bootloader after update, the old unlock file works fine.
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Considering the person had the sense to keep it, not everyone does
sent from my NRGized Amaze,
powered by faux kernel v.17
aj_2423 said:
Considering the person had the sense to keep it, not everyone does
sent from my NRGized Amaze,
powered by faux kernel v.17
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You can always download the file from your email.
sent from a galaxy you'll never see.
same questions
nitrogen618 said:
Is it okay to relock bootloader while on a custom rom?
I don't have the old file from HTCDev, so I need to go through the process again...
Thanks!
Btw, can I Flash kernel using hasoon2000 tool to flash kernel with S-ON?
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I have the same issue. I bought my wife's phone on eBay. It has GB 2.3.4 with a custom energy rom. I'm trying to find the easiest way to upgrade to ICS via OTA. My thought is to go back to stock ruu and use T-Mobile's OTA upgrade. T-Mobile's Amaze 4G
Hboot says:
***UNLOCKED***
RUBY PVT SHIP S-ON RL
eMMC-boot
I've spent days and hours reading threads after threads. After learning all the terms, I'm ready to try something but I'm scared of bricking the phone.
Can you give me step-by-step instructions on exactly what you did? I think I should go with hasoon2000 toolkit. The phone does not have a stock recovery. The recovery is by Team version 2.0.0. I'm guessing this is what I need to do:
Using hasoon2000 toolkit:
1. go back to stock recovery. Is this necessary?
2. relock bootloader. Can I do this with the toolkit?
3. flash stock GB ruu (or is it the same to flash stock ICS ruu here?)
Since this is my wife's phone, she doesn't really care about custom roms. Do I need to:
3. Unlock Bootloader again through htcdev
4. Install 4EXT
5. Superwipe/Wipe
6. Flash Rom
Is the toolkit the best method or can I simply have the ruu on my SD card and run it through Hboot?
Any advise or tips will be greatly appreciated.