im seeing atleast 2 ginger roms being released every day......whats the point of ppl just going to crazy development mode and releasing a variant of stock ginger rom...
but the point is clearly that most of us will use only miks cm7 or andy's cm7 or noejn's or ciaox(almost forgot xD) along with franco's kernel
I should also add, what's up with billions new threads asking/requesting/announcing for the same things again and again and again. It's becoming tiresome tracking the usefull info around here
Full Ack, it's better to have some devs helping the 2-4 Maindev's and having 2-4 very stable Roms and Kernels instead of having 1000 of Roms and Kernels which are crap.
These 2-4 Roms and 1-2 Kernels (or 2-4) are very stable, and People can change the Launcher if they dont like the Preinstalled Stuff.
Sorry, that are just my 2 Cents.
Its just started and you are telling it to stop. We wont stop until number crosses the froyo roms. I believe we have more than 20 froyo roms. So until its 20, dont complain.
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Its just started and you are telling it to stop. We wont stop until number crosses the froyo roms. I believe we have more than 20 froyo roms. So until its 20, dont complain.
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Well said
And where is the Sense in having 20+ Roms, where are the differences just minimal ? (Like Cosmetic : Launcher etc).
Imho : Senseless
Newbies are loosing the oversight, if there is too much. Which goes to Noob Questions like : Which Rom ist the Best, my Rom crashed why ? etc blahblah. Aka a flood of Stuff, many dont like.
Again, i dont have nothing against new Devs....but as in Companies or OS-Projects : Why dont bundle the Power of them into just some Projects (If the Maindevs likes to have help).
i think that mik and andy should work toghether on a custom rom. imagine that
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Its just started and you are telling it to stop. We wont stop until number crosses the froyo roms. I believe we have more than 20 froyo roms. So until its 20, dont complain.
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The difference is that most of those 20 froyo roms, each one was making a step further into p500 custom rom making. Development was growing back then. Just a few of the old...void/devoid, megatron, LOL, nessy, Light etc. Today custom development has come to a peak. If someone can make something new or different from what our current devs can do then bring it on. But all I can see is clones nothing more
Everything is goin to die down in few days, and only the best shall survive. I say its a fair competition and best will survive.
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A few weeks ago everyone was complaining that there are too few ginger ROMs.
Now you don't like it?
Yeah there must be development of gb Roms as this will lead to a great rom.
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The difference is that most of those 20 froyo roms, each one was making a step further into p500 custom rom making. Development was growing back then. Just a few of the old...void/devoid, megatron, LOL, nessy, Light etc. Today custom development has come to a peak. If someone can make something new or different from what our current devs can do then bring it on. But all I can see is clones nothing more
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Yes!! the problem lies in clones being made, and no new ideas or innovations...
I support new ROMS being developed, but it only makes sense if it brings something new and exciting with it, after all ROM devs can have the top kernels out here in it and focus on customizing and speeding up there roms, while adding new features and ideas. Its just a waste of time and effort if it just uses gimmicky themes and mods
This thread is true. It will never be better than mik and andy gb rom anyway
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This thread is true. It will never be better than mik and andy gb rom anyway
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So that means nobody should make another one? or another kernel? everyone must go to andy's thread or franco's thread to write"yay!" "wow!"?
Personal opinion: mik's great but buggy for daily use, andy´s buggy and franco kernel is the buggiest ever
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So that means nobody should make another one? or another kernel? everyone must go to andy's thread or franco's thread to write"yay!" "wow!"?
Personal opinion: mik's great but buggy for daily use, andy´s buggy and franco kernel is the buggiest ever
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Nope franco kernel will be nt buggiest ever..bcoz its the best..
-1 for u
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So that means nobody should make another one? or another kernel? everyone must go to andy's thread or franco's thread to write"yay!" "wow!"?
Personal opinion: mik's great but buggy for daily use, andy´s buggy and franco kernel is the buggiest ever
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yup, -1 for you too haha
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So that means nobody should make another one? or another kernel? everyone must go to andy's thread or franco's thread to write"yay!" "wow!"?
Personal opinion: mik's great but buggy for daily use, andy´s buggy and franco kernel is the buggiest ever
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well you could also write "yeehaa!" "wooh00" "bring it daddy" and other lovely stuff
Besides joking...we don't need clones.
If you can make something new (i'm not saying better), something different or innovative, for example franco has customized the kernel, ciaox made openscript, mik ported CM etc etc then we will all be very glad to have it.
Thats why is called "Development". Unfortunately not anyone can do it. So let those who know how to do it, to do it properly.
Haha cool. I wish I could be of some help
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Its just started and you are telling it to stop. We wont stop until number crosses the froyo roms. I believe we have more than 20 froyo roms. So until its 20, dont complain.
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obviously most of us are using andy's or mik_os GB rom
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Hey, I was just wondering if anyone has thought about posting a poll for the most popular Eris roms..or is that just not cool/not needed/uninteresting/stop asking stupid questions you stupid newb?
Or maybe it's a good idea..and now I can't edit the poll to add that as an option..
Just try different roms yourself. Everyone likes different ones.
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I'm running KaosFroyo v37.
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Just try different roms yourself. Everyone likes different ones.
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Well yeah, but it would be nice to have a narrowed down starting point
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I'm running KaosFroyo v37.
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Thanks for the suggestion..that one seems to be a really popular one, I starting to lean that way as my starting point..
Best Eris Rom ?
I agree that it really depends on personal opinon.
As I haven't tried very many ROM's, actually only 2 , I have researched this quite extensively and the 2 I have tried and like verrrry much are:
KaosFroyo - I was running v37, but v38 just came out an hour ago
NonsensikalFroyo - I have run 9.5 & 10.1 Black & Blue but im flashing 10.8.1 B&B now
.... both have released updates within the last 24-48 hours.
I havent tried TazzFroyo but I would make that these the top 3 to try first !
Nonsensikal is a Cyanogen Mod build, Kaos is a CM/AOSP build
I hope this helps you narrow things. Happy flashing
Awesome!! Thanks so much! I'm probably going to flash KaosFroyo first since so many have suggested it..
Thanks again!
I just went to kaosfroyo v38. Its sick but celbfroyo is good cause its faster
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celbfroyo is faster eh? Are you overclocking on the KFv38? Is it noticeably laggy?
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I second that notion. Also I dont keep up with whats happenning with these roms and just check back here around once a month. It would be really cool if there were constantly new polls that would allow people like me to see what is popular at that point in time to give us a reference point of what to check out.
Thanks for the +1..maybe I just need to start a real one and people will jump on board.
I don't know what overclocking is. I have tazzfroyo now an its faster than v38
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Overclocking allows you to run the processor at higher than stock speeds. I think most people are running it at around 750mhz where the stock speed is 528mhz.
Basically you can unlock a lot of hidden speed by overclocking at the sacrifice of some battery life.
Your rom may already have an overclocking app installed..do a search for it if your interested, I know I am
It would be a lot of bias. People get attached to roms and their developers so yeah. And different phones will behave differently with different roms.
anyone who has tried v20g....is there any new changes...when compared to gb rom's from noejn/andy/mik??
Read all the Threads about V20G, you may find the Answer there.
Use search before asking such Questions.
Thanks
i wanted to get replies from ppl who have tried it..!!
posting such questions in developer forum isn't needed and searching hundreds of pages is tough...
you can enlighten me with the direct link..or teaching me efficient ways of searching..
All in all, no the V20x(A,G) arent better then Miks,Andys or Noejn Rom and Franko'S Kernel.
But sometime this Night/Morning (Europe) LG released the 2.3.3 Source and we can hope on better Kernels..and maybe more bugless Roms from the Devs.
It looks like Andy already started, and im sure Mik and the others will follow soon in the next Days.
Andy statet that they have to do a complete restart (rewrite?) with the Kernel.
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All in all, no the V20x(A,G) arent better then Miks,Andys or Noejn Rom and Franko'S Kernel.
But sometime this Night/Morning (Europe) LG released the 2.3.3 Source and we can hope on better Kernels..and maybe more bugless Roms from the Devs.
It looks like Andy already started, and im sure Mik and the others will follow soon in the next Days.
Andy statet that they have to do a complete restart (rewrite?) with the Kernel.
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Well, there's at least 2 things that will be better in the V20x kernels: UMS & (my pet peeve in both current GB roms) Bluetooth calling!
Lack of bluetooth calling has made me come back to Froyo (void.) every time. But I guess Andy and Mik_os won't be far behind now that the sources have been released.
does the kernel from the official sources fixed our multitouch axis inversion and touchbug?
if it is i will keep my phone happily
No checked the axis inversion..new.kernel doesn't fix it
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No checked the axis inversion..new.kernel doesn't fix it
Arggghhh
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Hiya! Okay, I'm quite experienced with Android now, and I know this is a noobs question, and possibly frowned upon, but I was wondering what the best Kernel and ROM for my X10 is?
I previously used an X8 with CM7 (2.3.4) v.138 HACKDROID, and I pretty much want the same awesomeness on my X10 but better. There are a load here, and the Master Thread doesn't have any recommendations like the X8 Master Thread (which recommends HACKDROID).
I just need a few pointers and I won't post a noob question again. This is all I pretty much need to know.
Thanks
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If your into Cyanogen, check out CM7-ZMOD, butter smooth. If you want a more Sony Ericsson feel, check out Wolfs 2.3.3 rom. Again, butter smooth.
There is not really any kernel options at the moment. SE hasn't released the sources yet.
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Thanks. Yeah, its just like Hackdroid I found a 'Power to The People' Kernel by DoomLord, but it seems to turn off my signal, wifi and the USB cannot be recognised at all?
Only two quams with the ROM is lack of Governers - Not unless this Smartass one is good enough?? And the Volume in general is far too low.
Wish there was a Kernel to improve the ability even further. It's got the potential.
if you want a fast, reliable rom then j's cm7 j004 with doomlord's custom kernel can't be beat. until se release sources for gingerbread. this is the best custom setup around... in my opinion...
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Thanks. Yeah, its just like Hackdroid I found a 'Power to The People' Kernel by DoomLord, but it seems to turn off my signal, wifi and the USB cannot be recognised at all?
Only two quams with the ROM is lack of Governers - Not unless this Smartass one is good enough?? And the Volume in general is far too low.
Wish there was a Kernel to improve the ability even further. It's got the potential.
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ditto. can't wait for se to release sources! then game on!!
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ditto. can't wait for se to release sources! then game on!!
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When will they release sources?
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When will they release sources?
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Under the GPL, I believe they must be released within 15 days of launch. I'm no expert though so don't quote me.
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Under the GPL, I believe they must be released within 15 days of launch. I'm no expert though so don't quote me.
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In which part of GPL says that?
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When will they release sources?
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I'd like to know why they are holding them back....
SE does so much slimy stuff
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In which part of GPL says that?
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As I stated, I'm no expert, in fact, I could even be completely incorrect. I have however read other peoples responses to similar questions about SE releasing their kernel sources. They state that the Linux kernel sources, which are licenced under the GPL, must be disclosed within a certain period of time, which I believe to be 15 days.
Apologies for my somewhat limited knowledge about such licenses.
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No worries, I just want a confirmation. I've never heard such rule in GPL(confuses me a lot since there are variants of GPL out there).
I prefer this ROM, I'm still playing around with different one's.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192326
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May I ask a noob question what difference does different kernals actually do
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If your into Cyanogen, check out CM7-ZMOD, butter smooth. If you want a more Sony Ericsson feel, check out Wolfs 2.3.3 rom. Again, butter smooth.
There is not really any kernel options at the moment. SE hasn't released the sources yet.
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Even the new Achotjan CM7 released... Just checked it now. Looks pretty awesome. I'd say try ZMOD one or The Achotjan CM7 if you are a Cynogen fan. I was using Wolf's 2.3.3 for almost two weeks now and I'd say thats the best if you dont want to use Cynogen ROM... Cheers
I'm going to give Wolf's a shot, but I really enjoyed ZMOD's, but it could be better. The HTC Mod keyboard doesn't work on it sadly. I've just resorted to using thumb keyboard, its pretty good actually
Went back to ZMOD. It's amazing. Plus, the new kernels are making it a better experience now. Its running like lightning now. And the battery has improved too. Doomlords kernel is amazing
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hi, I'm on wolf's 2.3 rom. I wanna update to v4, and update 4.0.3 is also avail, so is it mandatory to update kernel as well? do i need to wipe anything before flashing to v4?
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hi, I'm on wolf's 2.3 rom. I wanna update to v4, and update 4.0.3 is also avail, so is it mandatory to update kernel as well? do i need to wipe anything before flashing to v4?
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No you don't have to update your kernel, and no you don't have to wipe anything. The custom kernel is optional. I'm using stock kernel on 4.0.2.1 and its extremely snappy. I'm going to update to 4.0.3 tonight.
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I'm running Wolf's 4.0.3 with Stock Kernel and Undervolt Addon, running very smoothly. Juice plotter tells me 51 hours of battery after calibration and a two days running. Best ROM I've used!
I know this thread is old , but since now there are new kernels to choose from, there are certainly new answers for this thread...
So, what's the best ROM / kernel combo for you guys?
THREAD RULES: We DO NOT ask for ETA or release dates in this thread!
So it seems like everybody goes crazy when it comes to the porting of CM7. But why?
I got my hands on a SGS2 with CM7 installed. Tried it, experienced it a little. From what I experienced the CM7 wasnt something that special. I asked the owner of the phone what he though of the ROM. To my surprise he said "it's just a ROM". He also mentioned that the stock ROM was smoother.
So now I'm wondering, why all the fuzz? What are you expecting from CM7? What makes it so special and so popular?
I'm pretty sure that a lot of people who craves for the porting of CM7 has no clue of this.
(off topic: tbh, i'd rather prefer MIUI.)
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My sister's Backflip has CyanogenMod 7 installed with 2.3.3 (Not even Froyo is released in Asia-Pacific regions) , it allows her to have OC/UV kernels from 600Mhz to 748Mhz . Her phone is wayyyyy less laggier than stock .(the difference is obviously obvious)
I'm not really good on those areas but arent you able to do that using SetCPU?
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I'm not really good on those areas but arent you able to do that using SetCPU?
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he said using oc/uv.. his sister device only support 600mhz by default, but because she uses custom oc/uv kernel, she can achieve 748mhz with help of setcpu. it depends on clock stepping that were supported by kernel, not by setcpu. setcpu only help to configure those clock stepping
Oh, never knew about that. From my use of SGA 800mhz is doing alright.
And as I mentioned, not really good at those areas so I didnt even know that "oc/uv" was overclock and undervolt xD
Some bugs fixed are gonna be fixed in CM. Camera quality should be bit better. Theme engine is built into ROM, so there will be much more themes for SGA. Im also excited about haptic feedback (not sure about this one).
And much more...
What i wish most for, is fix for SoD...
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What i wish most for, is fix for SoD...
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I'm not really excited for cyanogenmod, but for MIUI. I want it so bad!
MiUi is cyanogen based, if I'm not wrong.
First off I'm sure in cm there will be accurate battery reporting. No ****ty jumps in percentage.
Second, if CM is under way I believe developers will include uv, through kernels or modules. Overclocking though, may not be necessary.
Other than that the rom has so many tweaks. Over time and development CM will make our original firmware outmoded because it WILL get smoother.
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I'm not really excited for cyanogenmod, but for MIUI. I want it so bad!
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The same ;x but I would try CM too !
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Speed, stability, power, eyecandy, etc, etc.
But most of all; bugfixes and much more stability compared to stock firmware, as it is said that CM7 is build from the ground up so in my eyes it won't or even can't have the flaws that stock has.
Hey, it's only my opinion.
i think it`s only way to forget about SODs
Cyanogen is popular for a few reasons. It incoporates most worthwhile mods and runs normaly as well if not better than stock. Plus for me on a personal view it will help to get miui for sga.
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Cyanogen is popular for a few reasons. It incoporates most worthwhile mods and runs normaly as well if not better than stock. Plus for me on a personal view it will help to get miui for sga.
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You gave me a reason to wait for CM7 (Y)
hahaha..if you want to know..CM is a special ROM I guess, more unlock option on kernel than stock ROM, so I can say CM is a very customizing ROM.
for a prove, u can use an app called Tasker, on that app u can get more customized settings if u using CM.
CMIIW. sorry bad english
Is there a working custom kernel for Cyanogenmod yet? I know entropy's isn't compatible.. is there one out there?
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Cm7 already comes with a working kernel
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Wrong section! and no there isn't anything other than the stock kernel that comes with the cm7
I was referring to the one already packaged in cm.
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Hopefully not. It makes it easier for CM devs to work out the bugs and kinks when they don't have a bunch of other kernels out there. I know they've requested devs on other phones to hold off on kernels. Wouldn't surprise me if they did the same here.
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Hopefully not. It makes it easier for CM devs to work out the bugs and kinks when they don't have a bunch of other kernels out there. I know they've requested devs on other phones to hold off on kernels. Wouldn't surprise me if they did the same here.
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yea, cause I root and flash because I wanna use software of my choice hmmm.. i guess i shoulda bought a popular phone, er.. wait.. i mean one that was popular before it was pulled off the shelves.. now im stuck with stock or stock kernel, no oc above 1.6, and no native way to mod the lock screen.. WOO freakin HOO!!
and of course the asshole answer is "if you want XXXXXX then learn to dev.." yea right..
oh well.. at least its a 1/2 step above owning a Thrill. as far as options go..
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yea, cause I root and flash because I wanna use software of my choice hmmm.. i guess i shoulda bought a popular phone, er.. wait.. i mean one that was popular before it was pulled off the shelves.. now im stuck with stock or stock kernel, no oc above 1.6, and no native way to mod the lock screen.. WOO freakin HOO!!
and of course the asshole answer is "if you want XXXXXX then learn to dev.." yea right..
oh well.. at least its a 1/2 step above owning a Thrill. as far as options go..
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Do you want to get people mad at you? Show some patience. More dev work is available to this phone than most if not all new phones on the market.
For your sake from the responces that a comment like that will draw, I hope you're joking.
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No respectable kernel offers OC over 1.6
The only person who claims OC higher than 1.6 is Mr. "snake oil" Tegrak, and he's too busy violating the GPL to back up his claims.
Nearly everything in my kernel was pulled from the CM7 source base, and I have provided atinm with patches for any significant modification/bugfix. If you could flash my kernel on CM7 you would see little to no difference.
The device has only been pulled from shelves in LTE markets where AT&T is aggressively marketing LTE devices with availability shenanigans and extra discounts to drive adoption - most of these markets are ones where stores didn't stock the I777 in the first place.
CM7 developers make the same request on ANY phone that has an official CM7 port. It's the CM7 way.
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No respectable kernel offers OC over 1.6
The only person who claims OC higher than 1.6 is Mr. "snake oil" Tegrak, and he's too busy violating the GPL to back up his claims.
Nearly everything in my kernel was pulled from the CM7 source base, and I have provided atinm with patches for any significant modification/bugfix. If you could flash my kernel on CM7 you would see little to no difference.
The device has only been pulled from shelves in LTE markets where AT&T is aggressively marketing LTE devices with availability shenanigans and extra discounts to drive adoption - most of these markets are ones where stores didn't stock the I777 in the first place.
CM7 developers make the same request on ANY phone that has an official CM7 port. It's the CM7 way.
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Only thing I miss from the kernel work in the DHD section is kernels for CM7 with UV and more governor options such as smartass.
Drew
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