The reason why Sense 3.0 is so "bloated" - HTC EVO 3D

Could it be the new weather animations? That's gotta be it, Hollywood A-grade computer animation in QHD resolution, sorta makes "sense" LOL...we if that's the case, then I'll take it! The weather animations in Sense 3.0 kicks ass over anything available today, both on Android and iDrone.
It's such eye candy!

Sense 3.0 isn't bloated in my opinion.. it was designed to take advantage of the available hardware... Which means a bigger footprint,,, everything gets bigger when it gets better.... We went from vhs<dvd<blu ray
Of course a old vhs lover would say 20+gb is too much but it sure looks good doesn't it.... Same situation here
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We just have people that hate on sense regardless of how big it is or isnt
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Personally I care less about how much space it uses and more about how slow it is. On my Evo 4G, I saw a 35% to 40% increase in speed using several different benchmarks when I dumped Sense and went with an AOSP ROM. I suspect this phone will SCREAM once it is rooted and we get a good AOSP ROM on it. Right now, it's barely beating my AOSP ROM'd Evo 4G.
Mike

mikeyxda said:
Personally I care less about how much space it uses and more about how slow it is. On my Evo 4G, I saw a 35% to 40% increase in speed using several different benchmarks when I dumped Sense and went with an AOSP ROM. I suspect this phone will SCREAM once it is rooted and we get a good AOSP ROM on it. Right now, it's barely beating my AOSP ROM'd Evo 4G.
Mike
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But on day to day usage was it faster?
I love trying roms and playing with different programs, but the original sense on the evo is smooth and plenty fast at anything I do on a daily basis. Benchmarks are great, but in the end they don't mean crap
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flyboy1100 said:
But on day to day usage was it faster?
I love trying roms and playing with different programs, but the original sense on the evo is smooth and plenty fast at anything I do on a daily basis. Benchmarks are great, but in the end they don't mean crap
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Fair point. I don't really play arcade/graphics games on the phone so I don't find much use for the extra speed honestly. It did make scrolling and app loading quicker but I can't say that's huge. AOSP ROMs did use less battery for me too: quite a bit less. On the speed side: it's just nice knowing it's there if you need it. Sort of like owning a 200 MPH sports car that you know will never see that speed under your watch.
Mike

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Scrolling feels slightly jerky laggy ?

Just scrolling through the XDA app forums, or websites, feels slightly jerky or laggy to me. Anyone else ?
My wife has a stock Nexus-S 4G, and scrolling through XDA is smooth as flowing water, zero lag whatsoever.
The specs on my 3VO destroy the N-S, but it somehow feels a tad slower to me
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I been saying the same thing my g2x is 1ghz dual core my 3d is 1.2 ghz dual core and the g2x destroys the 3d n benchmarks and speed tests
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If Sprint or Google can patch the Nexus and fix the network/radio issues in the next 30 days, I will probably return this EVO-3D.
I am just shocked for a phone with these beastly specs, pretty much the best hardware out for any smartphone today, and it feels slower than last years single core device Nexus-S.
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Mines running smooth as can be
Phone is fast no doubt. But our Nexus-S just feels smoother or more slick. The 3VO will hiccup every once in a while when scrollibg through a list of things.
Just try scrolling up and down with 40 topics viewed on XDA, flip it up and down back and forth a bunch. The 3VO will be just a slight slow down once every 1/10th of a second maybe. Where the Nexus is perfectly smooth and warp speed fast. No lag whatsoever on the N-S.
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Zorachus said:
Phone is fast no doubt. But our Nexus-S just feels smoother or more slick. The 3VO will hiccup every once in a while when scrollibg through a list of things.
Just try scrolling up and down with 40 topics viewed on XDA, flip it up and down back and forth a bunch. The 3VO will be just a slight slow down once every 1/10th of a second maybe. Where the Nexus is perfectly smooth and warp speed fast. No lag whatsoever on the N-S.
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All we need is root, a custom rom, and some custom kernels, and its all over. Sense seems to be a resource hog. It needs tweaking.
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Bussin Caps from my 3D shooter
while the scrolling may not be as smooth as, say, the epic, the screen shows more pixels. definitely displays more info as well, which is a total tradeoff.
overall, the Evo 3D makes my epic feel like a half-baked toy.
and i really wanted to love the epic, but there's just no support for keeping it relevant and polished.

need opinions considering buying =]

Hello everyone,
i currently own the good ol' fashion nexus one and i decided to stick with htc.
right now i have my eyes set on the evo 3d but i would like to have some more opinions on the phone from people who acctually own\owned one.
how fast is it?
hows the 3d?
is the 1gb or rom that restrictive? [evo 3d gsm users]
does it run demanding games well? [shadowngun, GTA III, dead space, modern combat 3, etc..]
whats the highest stable overclock and how does it effect performance?
and some general notes you have to say about the device.
thanks you all and best regards
how fast is it?
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Umm, fast? Obviously not the fastest phone out anymore, as its about 8 months old.
hows the 3d?
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Works good, but pretty much just a gimick. I have watched a few 3d youtube videos, but I would never be able to stare at this small of a screen to watch a two hour movie.
whats the highest stable overclock and how does it effect performance?
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I believe 1.5 or 1.6 is the highest stable you can go.
Don't buy this pos.
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kthejoker20 said:
Don't buy this pos.
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when i saw you name, i thought that i remember i labeled you as a troll from some posts a while back, now reading your reply my initial thoughts were correct.
this phone is very good but if you want a phone that you expect many different roms to flash maybe you should get another phone
I say just wait for the phone that everyone wants = more devs
dfskevinohyeah said:
this phone is very good but if you want a phone that you expect many different roms to flash maybe you should get another phone
I say just wait for the phone that everyone wants = more devs
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i second this. good phone...not an extreme amount of community/dev support. there is plenty, but it's not a phone that has some great number of experimental roms or anything.
Good phone, but imo should go with something newer if tech interest you. If not, go for it. Can get it really cheap now compared to the other phones with same tech. 3d is just a plus, not a must have but fun to play with and show off to friends.
And 3d boobs =
From the giant: Galaxy Note
It currently has the best resolution, openness of storage, good processor speed, and ram available on sprint. The 3D is an OK extra but even without it it's the best phone right now.
Saneless One said:
It currently has the best resolution, openness of storage, good processor speed, and ram available on sprint. The 3D is an OK extra but even without it it's the best phone right now.
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does anyone really even use the 3d capabilities?
how fast is it?
The UI has no lag, if that's what you mean
hows the 3d?
It's annoying and strains your eyes, but pretty cool the first few weeks. After that, you really stop using it.
does it run demanding games well? [shadowngun, GTA III, dead space, modern combat 3, etc..]
Yep, no lag
whats the highest stable overclock and how does it effect performance?
The phone's stock clock is 1.2Ghz. The processor is meant to be at 1.5Ghz so that's the highest stable you'll go. Some phones can get up to 1.8Ghz and 1.9Ghz.
Additional Notes:
Don't get the evo 3D unless you need a new phone now. This phone is 8 months old meaning the new Evo will come out soon. Also, the GSM Evo 3D doesn't have much dev support. If you want great dev support, try the Samsung Galaxy SII.
yousefak said:
how fast is it?
The UI has no lag, if that's what you mean
hows the 3d?
It's annoying and strains your eyes, but pretty cool the first few weeks. After that, you really stop using it.
does it run demanding games well? [shadowngun, GTA III, dead space, modern combat 3, etc..]
Yep, no lag
whats the highest stable overclock and how does it effect performance?
The phone's stock clock is 1.2Ghz. The processor is meant to be at 1.5Ghz so that's the highest stable you'll go. Some phones can get up to 1.8Ghz and 1.9Ghz.
Additional Notes:
Don't get the evo 3D unless you need a new phone now. This phone is 8 months old meaning the new Evo will come out soon. Also, the GSM Evo 3D doesn't have much dev support. If you want great dev support, try the Samsung Galaxy SII.
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Pretty much what this guy said.. I was going to say. So Kudos.
Get this phone if its for cheap money, otherwise get a GS2.
I wouldn't waste your upgrade on a phone that's been out for 8 months
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mentaist12 said:
how fast is it?
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At stock it is meh, put a custom ROM and kernel and it is very fast and smooth.
mentaist12 said:
hows the 3d?
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Just a gimmick that youll use for a day when you first get it and to show off to people that will also get tired of it in 5 minutes
mentaist12 said:
is the 1gb or rom that restrictive? [evo 3d gsm users]
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I have CDMA, IDK if you mean the 1GB internal storage space? All ROMs install and run fine and have plenty of room left
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does it run demanding games well? [shadowngun, GTA III, dead space, modern combat 3, etc..]
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Never played any of those but I would imagine so. It has pretty beefy processing power and as I said before, if you put a custom ROM and kernel on it then things become VERY smooth. Benchmarks are subjective and everyone has their favorite, but some people can pull over 4000 score in Quadrant benchmark with this phone.
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whats the highest stable overclock and how does it effect performance?
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Highest I have seen is just over 2GHz, but I dont think that is stable 100%. Highest known to be stable is a bit over 1.7GHz, most are completely stable around 1.5-1.6GHz range. I have my phone set up with a 2 stage OnDemand governor with a max speed of 1.4GHz
Performance from overclocking is big, especially on a custom kernel like AnthraX. That kernel has different GPU and bus speeds in it as well, and if you run between 1.4-1.6GHz you have an overclocked GPU as well as overclocked CPU. Going above that lowers GPU to stock speeds to help stability.
Performance is VERY good at stock though and you shouldnt need to OC to run anything.
Battery life is average Id say, but if you get just the right setup and tweak things just right you can get amazing battery life. I have gone over 3 days on a single charge with very light usage. On heavy usage it is like any phone and only goes about 5-6 hours.
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does anyone really even use the 3d capabilities?
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I keep kidding myself that I'll watch a 3D movie or so one of these days. So far I think I watched half of Avatar.
well thats kind of disappointing i thought this phone would have better opinions...
well then i would like that ull recommend a phone if possible id like to stay with htc... loving sense and loving build quality.. and the gsII isnt a possibility for me...
i wanted the evo 3d over the sensation xe because of the ram..
the question is... is it worth the wait and the money to wait for the next gen snapdragon s4 htc devices which will probebly be annouced at mwc in a month..
great phone fast responsive with the latest update battery life has been great for me. every game i threw at it , it played it with no lag . I think it will take some time for devs to really get a hold of the 3d thing to get that and 4g into asop roms. I found this app on htc hub called phereo thats a 3d pic sharing app thats got me hooked on the 3d side of it again lol. my stable max over clock is 1728 mhz hope this helps
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well thats kind of disappointing i thought this phone would have better opinions...
well then i would like that ull recommend a phone if possible id like to stay with htc... loving sense and loving build quality.. and the gsII isnt a possibility for me...
i wanted the evo 3d over the sensation xe because of the ram..
the question is... is it worth the wait and the money to wait for the next gen snapdragon s4 htc devices which will probebly be annouced at mwc in a month..
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I don't know what these guys are talking about. This is by far the best quality/price you could get right now. There is the Motorola Atrix 4G which is also cheap but not as good as the Evo3D. The only dark spot is the camera which is good but not as great as other phones.
Evo 3D is always on the top 5 most popular phones on XDA. so I guess deving is still ongoing. Most devs are just waiting for an ICS leak to get back. And GSM dev section has nearly all flavours: Sense 3.0, Sense 3.5, AOSP (MIUI, ICS and CM) and I have no doubt that even if some builds miss one or two things, they will get mature in the near future.
Anyway, my choices would be:
If you have money, want speed with good quality build and can wait: HTC Edge.
If you have money, want speed with good quality build and cannot wait: HTC Amaze.
If you don't have money, want speed with good quality build: HTC Evo 3D.
And since I do like to use my phone (using like calling family, checking mails, feeds, etc. not like running useless benchmarks) and want it to stick around, I would never recommend a plastic phone like GSII.
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I don't know what these guys are talking about. This is by far the best quality/price you could get right now. There is the Motorola Atrix 4G which is also cheap but not as good as the Evo3D. The only dark spot is the camera which is good but not as great as other phones.
Evo 3D is always on the top 5 most popular phones on XDA. so I guess deving is still ongoing. Most devs are just waiting for an ICS leak to get back. And GSM dev section has nearly all flavours: Sense 3.0, Sense 3.5, AOSP (MIUI, ICS and CM) and I have no doubt that even if some builds miss one or two things, they will get mature in the near future.
Anyway, my choices would be:
If you have money, want speed with good quality build and can wait: HTC Edge.
If you have money, want speed with good quality build and cannot wait: HTC Amaze.
If you don't have money, want speed with good quality build: HTC Evo 3D.
And since I do like to use my phone (using like calling family, checking mails, feeds, etc. not like running useless benchmarks) and want it to stick around, I would never recommend a plastic phone like GSII.
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What this guy said however I have cdma version.
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m00nhead said:
does anyone really even use the 3d capabilities?
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I actually use 3D a lot. I have watched quit a few movies, played almost all of the games and love just checking out 3D pictures. Some people complain about it but I love it. I love the phone overall. The only thing that would stop me from buying this phone, is the possibility of a quad core soon.
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[Discussion]What do you look for when you are downloading. A custom

What do you look for when you are downloading. A custom. Rom
What are some of the quality's that you would want/look for in an evo 3d Rom.
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4g
3d
Stability
Stability, and something without sense.
Or a ROM that will turn my 3d into a kindle fire.
S3nt from my 3D wond3rland
3D
Stable
Fast
Good battery life
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Sense 3.5. Mikrunny is the cream of the crop.
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I just want an ICS ROM that works.
Something that is stable and can utilize my hardware without problems.
4g
3d
Stability
All Bloatware removed
customization
3D
4G
Customization
Speed
Stability
How much I can customize myself
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3d camera is working..
No bugs..
Smooth appearance..
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Obvious things like working data and WiFi. 3D and 4G mean nothing to me.
95% of themed ROMs look pretty terrible, so I usually refrain from those. The 5% includes Warm, Eternity, and SupraROM.
I lean more towards ICS these days, but the battery drain (even without bluetoothd) is pretty horrendous, and it's still not completely stable.
All of those things mixed together means that I'm really looking forward to data and WiFi on the Sense 4.0 port...
I'm just looking for an optimized rom which is either an optimized stock rom or an stable port with all features working.
Most important for me when I consider to use is that it has the essential parts working, if the 3D part is not working that is something I can understand, but I think its important to have that working to.
Because the 3D makes our device stand out from the crowd. Also an reason for choosing an custom rom is because the overclocks, because our devices have much more in them then the standard 1.2Ghz clock.
I look mainly for tweaks/optimizations that make the phone run faster, smoother, and get better battery life. I also love eye candy, but most of the themed roms look really cheesy IMO. Myn's Warm has always kept it classy and sexy, love the green/transparancy theme it's had since the debut on the Evo 4G. Definitely looking for stability and functionality though. I could care less about 3D (face it, it's a gimmick to show off to your friends once and never use it again), and 4G coverage is so spotty and useless indoors that it's hard to miss. Extra features are also a plus. So my favorite roms:
Warm 2.3: Sexy, classy, super fast/smooth, and everything works perfectly. Definitely the best Sense rom and I have been a fan of Myn's work since the early OG Evo days.
MIUI: Really fast, different look and feel, different features like pop up text messages, and great battery life. Although I do have to use LauncherPro because I can't stand not having an app drawer with all my icons littered across my home screens.
CM9: I WANTTTTT. ICS is freaking awesome and I love it but due to it being in the alpha stages I can't use it as a daily. I tried, but data dropping in and out, wifi connection issues, frequent force closes, no camera, and horrific battery life keep me from using it till development progresses further.
4G
3D
Camera working properly
A little customization is nice
Don't really care much about OC/UV
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Fully functional 3D
Working 4G
..and just like good performance
I look for a modified rosie I hate the arched rosie Chase its all jagged. Other than that just data and WiFi. I can't wait for the data on the sense 4.0 port
Bang from my Shooter!!!
1) Everything working. Seems a little ridiculous to me to run a rom that breaks otherwise working features just to say you're running it...
2) Aesthetically pleasing. Eternity, MIUI, and Warm all got it right. Seems like most of the rest just throw in highly contrasting colors (read: ugly) and icons that all look almost identical and call it a day...
3) Tweaks and modifications. It has to be able to do something that stock can't.
4) No Bloat. Not even a little bit.
5) Dev support. This is kind of a throw back to #1. We have some amazing devs around here making already great roms faster and smoother. But then again, I have seen some great ideas just get abandoned after a while.

ICS - 1 week later... impressions?

So it's been roughly a week since the ICS leak hit. What are your impressions?
I didn't think a tweaked GB 2.3.4 rom was too bad, at least not to the point where I constantly pined over ICS. GB was satisfactory to say the least.
ICS has been pretty impressive imo. Battery life has definitely improved and things feel a bit more peppier. Then again it could all be placebo effect. I mainly preferred a sense base rom for the camera and I'm pretty happy i can have the best of both worlds.
Overall if my level of satisfaction with the 2.3.4 roms was a 7/10 i would rate my satisfaction a 9/10 with ICS.
What do you guys think so far?
So far so good, i would rate it 9.5/10.
I am personally much happier with ICS then GB. I like the look and feel I just wish i had the same service (coverage) as GB. I now get HORRIBLE reception. Hopefully there will be an update for my completely stock Amaze.
Very stable here.
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I am personally much happier with ICS then GB. I like the look and feel I just wish i had the same service (coverage) as GB. I now get HORRIBLE reception. Hopefully there will be an update for my completely stock Amaze.
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I'm having the same experience.
the only thing i really dislike about ics is the lack of apps optimized for ics (no fault of ics of course)
my reception doesn't feel changed at all.
I guess its because where i am its either 1. very strong or 2. weak to the point where there is no signal.
I am using NRG ICS, but I was on stock for a day. I really like it, and the battery is twice as good.
My favorite feature is that one can combine icons on the desktop to create "folders" with multiple programs. I keep all my browsers in the space needed by only one icon. Very cool.
I like ARHD. I'm getting fast data speeds and good reception. The battery life isn't all that great. I already reconditioned it 3 times, and did a battery stats wipe. Unplugged it at 12 am, and checked it at 6am. It was already at 86 percent. If it was my glacier, it would be at 95 or more. I also used better battery stats app, and disabled any rouge apps. Juice defender running disabling all data, and system tuner sets the governor to powersave while the screen is off.
For some reason, I can't get the radio settings to stick. It always goes back to gsm whenever I tried to set it to gsm/wcdma prl or anything else.
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I am using NRG ICS, but I was on stock for a day. I really like it, and the battery is twice as good.
My favorite feature is that one can combine icons on the desktop to create "folders" with multiple programs. I keep all my browsers in the space needed by only one icon. Very cool.
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Stock GB sense has folders as well.
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Stock GB sense has folders as well.
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Huh, I guess I never happened to combine them! I'm using GB on my tablet, but I don't prefer GB there.
OK, back to just the battery I guess!
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Huh, I guess I never happened to combine them! I'm using GB on my tablet, but I don't prefer GB there.
OK, back to just the battery I guess!
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Yeah, I just stumbled on them in GB as well. I think it's a sense feature rather than a GB feature. I think I remember watching a video showing folders on whatever version of IOS first had them and thought that'd be cool, and one day saw I could do it on my phone. I threw all my games into a games folder.
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Yeah, I just stumbled on them in GB as well. I think it's a sense feature rather than a GB feature. I think I remember watching a video showing folders on whatever version of IOS first had them and thought that'd be cool, and one day saw I could do it on my phone. I threw all my games into a games folder.
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I split my games into categories (RPG, board, etc). Very useful.
My reception has gotten slightly better, stock ICS with Apex launcher is much smoother than any GB ROM I've tried, and even though I'm not a fan of HTC Sense's overhead, I'm still pretty happy with it
I like the leak. I've been running stock rooted and debloated with apex launcher and its WAY better than 3.0. Especially with Apex.
ICS is MUCH snappier (no placebo). It has everything I liked from 3.5 with improvements in performance.
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I like the leak. I've been running stock rooted and debloated with apex launcher and its WAY better than 3.0. Especially with Apex.
ICS is MUCH snappier (no placebo). It has everything I liked from 3.5 with improvements in performance.
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Is that launcher on the Goggle Market? I may give it a try.
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I like the leak. I've been running stock rooted and debloated with apex launcher and its WAY better than 3.0. Especially with Apex.
ICS is MUCH snappier (no placebo). It has everything I liked from 3.5 with improvements in performance.
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Stock rooted? I thought u would be running speedrom or something
But I do enjoy ics very much. Everything is smoother and more fluid. I LOVE IT!
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1. MUCH improved battery life.
2. Snappier response.
3. 150MB less memory usage on average. I've changed nothing about my usage habits. This probably contributes quite a bit to the snappier performance.
I'm not sure if reception is better, haven't really been paying attention. Overall I'm impressed. I like the return to the icon bar instead of that stupid giant PHONE button with two other useless things on it. I am noticing a little bit of stutter on cpu intensive apps; wonder if that's just tweaking/optimization that will be taken care of in the release.
I think my phone reception is a little bit better with the new radio, but my wifi reception has gone crazy with the new radio. Sometimes I'll have full bars sitting in one spot, and 0 wifi bars a minute later in the same spot. I do like ICS a lot more than GB though.
Perhaps those are some of the issues the T-Mobile team wants HTC to fix before the actual release.

I know everyone loves ICS but GB is faster

Truly is ICS better than Gingerbread in real life [on the EVO 3D]? I find myself flashing multiple ICS roms hoping to gain the smoothness of GB but I just can't find it.
I know the features ICS brings are great:
- Chrome support
- Better sleep management
- Better system/data management (cant confirm this)
- 32 bit color by default (cant confirm this)
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But one thing GB has that ICS doesn't is complete capability with our phones. We were able to make GB fly and I feel since Sprint is dragging their feet to release the update, we will have some time before ICS flies like GB. By then Jelly Bean will be running. It's a vicious cycle.
I am all for trying out new software, I love being on the bleeding edge of technology. However, for example, when playing Max Payne on ICS, the joystick would stop responding or the framerate will drop dramatically. That never happened on GB.
So my question is, whats your reason for running ICS on your EVO 3D? It is because its the latest and greatest or is there a certain feature I am missing? Because I am starting not to see a benefit.
**Disclamer: I read a couple of threads related to this but this subject was never expanded on. Mods feel free to close if you think this is redundant.**
I run it because I'm yet to have 1 problem that's not a known ics general issue.
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For cdma phones yes, the 2.17 base was an excelent base for GB roms. Us poor GSM users had a crap base which when even overclocked was probably still slower than the current ICS.. for example low 2000 quadrants and 24fps nenamark
I just wish there was a way to use the 2.17 base roms on GSM, I would certainly use it. :good:
ICS runs fine on my phone. And I'm easily getting at least 24 hours per battery, as opposed to 12 hours with GB.
ICS definitely has better battery management. However, for me personally, I don't mind having less battery with more performance since I have multiple batteries I can just swap out. A perfect balance is what I look to achieve. ICS beats GB in terms of battery life but I have to give the best performance title to GB.
Wait until HTC release the kernel sources and we get custom overclocked kernels, will speed it up a little
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Wait until HTC release the kernel sources and we get custom overclocked kernels, will speed it up a little
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Considering they haven't yet, what makes you think they will?
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Considering they haven't yet, what makes you think they will?
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There hasn't been an official ICS release? (For CDMA at least). Generally its been a 90 day or so time frame for source release. We should see GSM source in the next couple of months. While HTC isn't the fastest at releasing they haven't ever failed to release source that I'm aware of.
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Disagree with this post 100%.
Even though im running a GSM version, i can tell you right now that the phone is 100% different then the GB version. Its faster, smoother, and runs far more efficient. (ive only got 200 mb used of ram, when my GB version was running around 400-450, and i still have to remove junk from my ICS version once i root it.)
js593 said:
Disagree with this post 100%.
Even though im running a GSM version, i can tell you right now that the phone is 100% different then the GB version. Its faster, smoother, and runs far more efficient. (ive only got 200 mb used of ram, when my GB version was running around 400-450, and i still have to remove junk from my ICS version once i root it.)
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Again this is for the GSM version, it may not be true for CDMA phones as i doubt you have one to compare...
I myself believe the fact that their phones run worse on ICS then ours because the same thing was happening to us on GB...
I think for me gb gave me problems with youtube....always skipping in the middle. But going to ics has fixed that. Everything is smoother. Battery life to me isn't much of a problem since I have about two extra batteries.
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ICS runs way better than GB did. side by side comparisons of Eternity 1.4.2 vs inbREDed 5.2 verify that for me in an instant.
apps load faster, menus react quicker, etc. I'll never go back to GB and can't wait for an Anthrax kernel for this.
I do wish that the Sense 4 ROM's had 3D and 4G though, because those things run really, really nice.. *sigh*
Interesting feedback, thank you everyone. This is definitely "food for thought".
Whats your feedback on game performance? I usually find myself playing one of the Rockstar or Gameloft games I have purchased and I feel ICS framerates drops much more than GBs.
I feel that since GB's kernel source has been released, devs were able to tweak it for maximum performance under heavy load vs a stock kernel which would be somewhat conservative on performance.
And yes I do have a CDMA version but input from GSM users are welcomed.
Hate to be the one to say it but the second our devices are graced with JB performance and battery life will not just reach the best balance yet, but take both to new levels.
Were in developmental limbo right now, and shortly enough new JB roms will start pumping out, keeping users happy for quite a while
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Hate to be the one to say it but the second our devices are graced with JB performance and battery life will not just reach the best balance yet, but take both to new levels.
Were in developmental limbo right now, and shortly enough new JB roms will start pumping out, keeping users happy for quite a while
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Not everyone will jump on JB. I know I won't. I have good 4G coverage and want to keep that, especially since my speeds have been going up. and I want to keep 3D. So if those aren't present I'm staying on ICS
I really wish we had a stable build of CM7 for CDMA to play with, htc holding the source on ICS kernels has made the ICS dev basically come to a crawl and it saddens me lol... My old Evo4G had a new ROM out everyday it seemed and IMO CM9 was more stable there than on the 3D. Nothing against the wonderful devs here as it's not their fault htc is being stingy with source.
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felacio said:
Not everyone will jump on JB. I know I won't. I have good 4G coverage and want to keep that, especially since my speeds have been going up. and I want to keep 3D. So if those aren't present I'm staying on ICS
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Many who use cm9 will lol
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Do not compair roms just on benchmarks... ICS is waaaayy better than gb even without overclocking. Solo many more features in ICS made it impossible for me to go back to GB
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I don't actually have an evo, but I've been using an HTC hd2 for a long time, until yesterday.
I was running the latest ics version mostly just to be on the bleeding edge of technology. Their were a few things I really liked more and reasons I wanted to run it because of, but mostly i wanted ics because it was new.
We also had gingerbread roms that were blazing fast and worked almost perfectly. In all honesty they were amazing.
Then ics came along. Many of the drivers were not there for our device and the devs start working like crazy to fix them or write them, just whatever needed to be done.
However even to this day ics does not run as well as gb did. It is very stable, not a lot of fc's but it still has some. In reality its just not yet the same quality gb was.
I think that until HTC releases the kernal source like for the evo and other phones that ics will not run as good as gb. In no way is this in offense to the devs. I just know that its hard to match a companies time and man power when your doing something for free.
In short, unless their is a lot of official support I do not think ics runs as well as gb either.
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