I will receive the phone this week.
I was wondering if I should purchase a MicroSD memory card TF or is not necessary?
The 16GB into the device is enough for me but the question is if I need a memory card for specific applications or certain things?
This is my first device with Android so I dont know the answer.
A its not necessary but B its useful to back stuff up to .
Plus you have more storage on your phone .
jje
JJEgan said:
A its not necessary but B its useful to back stuff up to .
Plus you have more storage on your phone .
jje
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what do you mean its useful to back stuff up?
I have WD passport 500gb
JJEgan said:
A its not necessary but B its useful to back stuff up to .
Plus you have more storage on your phone .
jje
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Yep it's really useful for backup.
And if you plan to use your GS2 to play vids it will be essential.
Eyal1506 said:
what do you mean its useful to back stuff up?
I have WD passport 500gb
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He meant its to useful to back up stuff from your phone, i.e. Pictures,
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OK thanks for the answers.
My test showed me that internal sd is a class 10. So, battery usage is lower and the read/write perfs are good.
I just ordered a 32GB class 10 card. I want to put 22GB of music on it so I can sync it the PC. Won't sync when I have more much on the PC than the Phone.
Why are you syncing it? Just copy paste.
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Why is my phone only 12GB?
eddablin said:
Why is my phone only 12GB?
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First lol... Second use search... third:
ram 1GB 833MB usable
internal memory 12GB available 11.50GB
App memory Above 1.8GB
(didnt even have to check my phone, first hit on google, remember google is your friend)
May the fourth be with you....
I had hoped the numptys would not turn up here they have in force .`
jje
Stitch! said:
ram 1GB 833MB usable
internal memory 12GB available 11.50GB
App memory Above 1.8GB
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Thought as much cheers.
Did have a quick look but was on phone at the time and couldn't see an answer.
JJEgan said:
I had hoped the numptys would not turn up here they have in force .`
jje
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You're the first person I've seen to use 'numpty' besides my dad
steve228uk said:
You're the first person I've seen to use 'numpty' besides my dad
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Dont know where it came from seems to fit Nokia Useless Muppets who have now bought a SGS and cannot and will not read . SGS1 plagued by them and looks like same SGS2 .
jje
PS Probably older than your dad I can remeber the running order at Woodstock but not to do me flies up .
jje
Why is the total storage space only showing 19.61GB and not anywhere nearer the 32GB space? Where is almost 11GB?
Anybody noticed this?
YOSEFE said:
Why is the total storage space only showing 19.61GB and not anywhere nearer the 32GB space? Where is almost 11GB?
Anybody noticed this?
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I noticed this. The "internal storage" where apps go is something like 7Gb! Why is that and can we change it? Even then, it doesnt quite add up. There must be some reserved space we cannot access I assume.
YOSEFE said:
Why is the total storage space only showing 19.61GB and not anywhere nearer the 32GB space? Where is almost 11GB?
Anybody noticed this?
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say whuuut!! :-O
That's quite a loss of space!
32gb as formatted will be around 28gbs available to the file system. Then you have OS rom taking up 9gb it sounds like.
My droid x 2.2 rom takes up about 3.8gb.
9gb does sound like alot but not unreasonable.
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32gb as formatted will be around 28gbs available to the file system. Then you have OS rom taking up 9gb it sounds like.
My droid x 2.2 rom takes up about 3.8gb.
9gb does sound like alot but not unreasonable.
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Is it just me or is it just strange to say that you get 32 gig but 9 of it goes to rom?
jeroenpico said:
Is it just me or is it just strange to say that you get 32 gig but 9 of it goes to rom?
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It is strange. 7Gb goes to the ROM and stores all your data. Personally, I cant see a need for more than 1.5Gb at the moment. Either way, some ability to change it would be nice.
So I asked HTC about this and whether we can link more than one device to HTC SENSE, this is what I got!
Dear Ira,
Congratulations on your new HTC Flyer!
You are correct, a portion of the internal storage is devoted to the device management itself. As you have probably already noticed, the device does also support removable SD Card capability. In regards to the HTCSense account, you are also correct. At this time, only one device can be linked at a time. We currently do not have any information pertaining to any potential updates to the device; however, any announcements will be posted on our www.htc.com website.
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glitzbd said:
So I asked HTC about this and whether we can link more than one device to HTC SENSE, this is what I got!
Dear Ira,
Congratulations on your new HTC Flyer!
You are correct, a portion of the internal storage is devoted to the device management itself. As you have probably already noticed, the device does also support removable SD Card capability. In regards to the HTCSense account, you are also correct. At this time, only one device can be linked at a time. We currently do not have any information pertaining to any potential updates to the device; however, any announcements will be posted on our www.htc.com website.
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Yes, we are fixed, HTC said the following to me also:
'HTC Flyer shows 19.61GB because of many reasons. 32GB is raw memory size and after formatting it is always less than 32gb, it is same like when you formatt your SDcard. Another reason is Android system and all applications are already installed in memory. Your Flyer is not faulty.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number 11GBCW21ENA001983.
Sincerely,
Tomas
HTC'
32GB wouldn't decrease to 19GB after being formatted.
another CS "inaccuracy" (to remain polite )
I agree with you.
We wish we could get better for the money we pay for these over-priced gadgets.
you have 19.61 for movies and such from watch,( maybe able to use as SD card as well) and then you have 7.24 (+/- a little bit) for applications and ROM so that is pretty close to the 28GB that you get once fromated
My Wifi-only 16 GB model has 8.69 GB total storage space. A little disappointing...
System + data + sdcard (+ some others boot etc) partitions = internal storage...
And yes you did see right... Sdcard partition is infact the internal memory ... The actual SD card is called SDcard2 (from memory)
Kris
I think storage size is as it is.. just partitioned the way not many hope to have..
7+gb for main + 19+gb for secondary memory (aka SDCARD) = 28+gb
Comes up to the same a 32gb SD card would show when formatted.
As to why they have 7+gb, its a personal preference.. if they allow only 1.5gb, some other dud will complain that its too small. They probably ask why didn't htc allow more since they dun need so much secondary storage because of the additional SD option.
i00 said:
System + data + sdcard (+ some others boot etc) partitions = internal storage...
And yes you did see right... Sdcard partition is infact the internal memory ... The actual SD card is called SDcard2 (from memory)
Kris
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Sd card on mine is called ext_sd
I wonder if anyone's looked in to this? Could be huge - most of us have a dead simcard slot - I wonder if there's a way to hack in an sdcard reader to the hardware?
What dead MicroSD card slot?
Do you mean the slot that has the serial # info and has nothing to do with ab SD card?
RojasTKD said:
What dead MicroSD card slot?
Do you mean the slot that has the serial # info and has nothing to do with ab SD card?
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He said dead sim card slot, not dead MicroSD card slot. The OP clearly realises the slot has nothing to do with an SD card. Seems you have misunderstood or not bothered to read it properly but nevertheless im sure the pretty much redundant piece of plastic with the serial info is something that I'm sure a lot of TP users would be prepared to sacrifice if they could mod in a card reader.
If you're going to hack anything then hack the USB port to work as a host and read away!
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He said dead sim card slot, not dead MicroSD card slot. The OP clearly realises the slot has nothing to do with an SD card. Seems you have misunderstood or not bothered to read it properly but nevertheless im sure the pretty much redundant piece of plastic with the serial info is something that I'm sure a lot of TP users would be prepared to sacrifice if they could mod in a card reader.
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Yes, I misunderstood... my apologies.
I've wondered if it would be possible to solder in a wire from a +5v somewhere to the USB. (I'm sure someone will quickly point out if this is a "bad" idea...)
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tekowalsky said:
I've wondered if it would be possible to solder in a wire from a +5v somewhere to the USB. (I'm sure someone will quickly point out if this is a "bad" idea...)
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you would probably need to create 5v first. the touchpad I think runs off something like 3v. while I seems like a good idea to hack in a card reader,my feeling is not to.worry until you in out of memory. a better idea might be a device stuck to the back containing a extra battery and a card.reader. It would make the tablet thicker but increase battery life and provide plenty of storageas well as providing the power needed for the reader.
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If you're going to hack anything then hack the USB port to work as a host and read away!
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This would also be awesome. I think it would take a bit more for this though than an sdcard since the sdcard can operate up to 3.7v.
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LateralOctober said:
This would also be awesome. I think it would take a bit more for this though than an sdcard since the sdcard can operate up to 3.7v.
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Sorry I wasn't clear enough, you can do this for real right now!
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Sorry I wasn't clear enough, you can do this for real right now!
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Do you have a link?
LateralOctober said:
Do you have a link?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316174
And there is another fuller in depth post on another forum which I will not post here as the last time I tried to be helpful I was accused of spamming and threatened with a ban so you will have to try a google.
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Oh what the heck
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/3724-functional-usb-host-on-touchpad/
pa49 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316174
And there is another fuller in depth post on another forum which I will not post here as the last time I tried to be helpful I was accused of spamming and threatened with a ban so you will have to try a google.
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Oh what the heck
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/3724-functional-usb-host-on-touchpad/
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Well that's not near what the OP was talking about. An SD card that give you build in storage, even on the go, is much more practical than this option.
Still could be useful, but for me it not very practical.
RojasTKD said:
Well that's not near what the OP was talking about. An SD card that give you build in storage, even on the go, is much more practical than this option.
Still could be useful, but for me it not very practical.
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Of course it isn't, but it is what I was talking about and the OP asked for the link.
So what's your problem?
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Of course it isn't, but it is what I was talking about and the OP asked for the link.
So what's your problem?
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I don't have a problem...
1. I didn't see where he asked about it... my apologies there.
2. Just pointing out the limited usefulness compared to the SD card solution.
I wasn't trying to be a jerk.
Personally I think the best solution would have been if HP would of just included an SD or MicroSD card. It drive me nuts when manufacturers mimic the apple model and give you less option and features as if that will equal success (looking at you Touchpad and GalaxyTab 10.1).
Um... Looks like the subject is just about buried in the amount of crap everyone has been piling on so far.
So back to constructive discussion... What are the advantages of having SD card in your mobile device (be it a phone or a tablet)?
I have a 16GB microSD card in my Nexus One, and I have never taken it out. I almost wish all of the flash was just integrated.
With quality of USB and network file transfer protocols I think SD is just about useless.
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Um... Looks like the subject is just about buried in the amount of crap everyone has been piling on so far.
So back to constructive discussion... What are the advantages of having SD card in your mobile device (be it a phone or a tablet)?
I have a 16GB microSD card in my Nexus One, and I have never taken it out. I almost wish all of the flash was just integrated.
With quality of USB and network file transfer protocols I think SD is just about useless.
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Very simple, I can put all my photos, videos, documents, downloads, Maps for my GPS apps on my SD card. It leaves more space on my device for apps and if and when I wipe my device I don't lose any of it. I've had time when I was having an issue with a device and had to wipe everything. Having certain files on my SDcard kept me from loosing anything. with my phone I've stored different ROM on my SDcard so I could test them out and switch between various ROM with ease.
I don't take my SDcard out either, the purpose of the SDcard isn't to move files from you computer to you phone but rather as storage.
But, I'll give you $10 for that useless 16GB microSD card.
RojasTKD said:
Very simple, I can put all my photos, videos, documents, downloads, Maps for my GPS apps on my SD card. It leaves more space on my device for apps and if and when I wipe my device I don't lose any of it. I've had time when I was having an issue with a device and had to wipe everything. Having certain files on my SDcard kept me from loosing anything. with my phone I've stored different ROM on my SDcard so I could test them out and switch between various ROM with ease.
I don't take my SDcard out either, the purpose of the SDcard isn't to move files from you computer to you phone but rather as storage.
But, I'll give you $10 for that useless 16GB microSD card.
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Technically a TouchPad without hardware damage is unbrickable, USB is connected to CPU so you could always push a boot image to RAM.
You do bring up a valid issue, but some of the ways you can stop relying on local storage are cloud storage and cloud backups. These Palm accounts that we get with WebOS on the TouchPads do just that.
Which brings us to the next question, can we have an application to access our Palm accounts from Android?
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You do bring up a valid issue, but some of the ways you can stop relying on local storage are cloud storage and cloud backups. These Palm accounts that we get with WebOS on the TouchPads do just that.
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But I like local storage. I rather have my music on my SD card. There are some picture I'd also like to have on my device locally. Same with documents and a variety of other thing. I don't have to have everything on there, but there are something I would like to have. Not to mention that being a WiFi device I can't always have access to cloud storage.
There is room for both in my opinion.
OK, I'm done... back to you regularly scheduled thread.
ive been curious about this since i got mine, but i have a 32gb, so its never really been a project in the front of my mind...imma take a look at the whitesheets and teardowns (cuz i dont wanna open mine if SD isnt possible ) and see if there are even pins for data available, but im pretty sure there isnt, which would also explain why devs are working on getting OTG running
I've got just under 2 GB left of the 11.36GB the phone says is available. I've got about 100 apps and my camera is set to save to the external SD. Anyone else using up their memory rather quickly?
Adelaide. said:
I've got just under 2 GB left of the 11.36GB the phone says is available. I've got about 100 apps and my camera is set to save to the external SD. Anyone else using up their memory rather quickly?
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Hmm... do you have some enormous apps installed? I still have well over 7 gigs free, and I'm not even using an external SD. I have quite a few pics, a few dozen apps, and some music.
Not that I can see. Largest is Adobe flash at 12.38mb. There are a couple others around 10mb, and the rest are all 5mb or under. 405MB used by apps.
Edit: I think I found the issue. The CWM folder is 7.9GB.
Dear lord, what's in that folder?
9 nandroid back ups. Which is about 6 more than I remember making.
That would be to many backups......LOL
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I make a point of deleting old backups, so I've got one backup per ROM I work with.
I rename them manually using ADB. (The phone is always by the computer on USB when Nandroiding.)
Adelaide. said:
I've got just under 2 GB left of the 11.36GB the phone says is available. I've got about 100 apps and my camera is set to save to the external SD. Anyone else using up their memory rather quickly?
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Do you have any trouble saving your pictures to the external sd card? When I do about 50% of them come up corrupt.Could just be the card, going to return it and try again this weekend. 32GB class
10 Kingston.
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Entropy, I have no idea how I ended up with so many. I suspect it may have something to do with the time I spent trying to screw around with rom manager.
I haven't had any issues so far except for some lag. I have a 8GB sandisk that is probably a class 2 or 4. I'm looking at getting a 32BG class 10 here soon which will hopefully eliminate the lag I'm getting after taking pictures.
I'm curious...what was the problem? The extra backups eating up that much space?
Yup, each back up was about 3/4 of a GB.
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Adelaide. said:
Yup, each back up was about 3/4 of a GB.
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Yikes! I'm going to have to delete some of my older backups then! Now...which folder are teh backups defaulted to?
DefTaker said:
Yikes! I'm going to have to delete some of my older backups then! Now...which folder are teh backups defaulted to?
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Clockworldmod folder
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sirooga said:
Do you have any trouble saving your pictures to the external sd card? When I do about 50% of them come up corrupt.Could just be the card, going to return it and try again this weekend. 32GB class
10 Kingston.
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Sirooga,
There is a known problem with some 32gb class 10 cards corrupting data in android phones. The workaround is to format it with a windows pc. Do a full format, not a quick one, and the important part is to set the cluster size to 32kb. After that it put it back in the phone and all should be good.
Racer447 said:
Sirooga,
There is a known problem with some 32gb class 10 cards corrupting data in android phones. The workaround is to format it with a windows pc. Do a full format, not a quick one, and the important part is to set the cluster size to 32kb. After that it put it back in the phone and all should be good.
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Where is your source for this information? I'm curious as I just purchased a new 32GB microSD card. Thanks!
CNLiberal said:
Where is your source for this information? I'm curious as I just purchased a new 32GB microSD card. Thanks!
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First of all, the newer cards supposedly have updated their firmware so it's not an issue anymore. So if you have a newly purchased card from a supplier with fresh stock I doubt this would apply.
But for anyone having corruption issues it may be worth a try.
Here is a link to a related thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1146665
And here is the post I was referring to, cut and paste from the Patriot memory support forum:
"We have found that there is an industry wide compatibility problem with the new Android based and Windows 7 phones working with 32GB class 10 micro SD cards. We have seen issues with the Samsung Focus, Motorola Driod/X, HTC Evo 4g. We are currently working on a solution for this compatibility issue. Google and Microsoft have stated that there are known compatibility issues with 32GB class 10 micro SD cards and are working on a solution as well.
We have found a fix that works in many cases, where you format the card in a Windows based PC, with FAT32, allocation size 32kb, and full format. This is not an official fix, but troubleshooting steps that has worked in many cases, we are still working on a permanent solution for this issue.
Thank You for choosing Patriot Memory!"
Racer447 said:
First of all, the newer cards supposedly have updated their firmware so it's not an issue anymore. So if you have a newly purchased card from a supplier with fresh stock I doubt this would apply.
But for anyone having corruption issues it may be worth a try.
here is the post I was referring to, cut and paste from the Patriot memory support forum:
"We have found that there is an industry wide compatibility problem with the new Android based and Windows 7 phones working with 32GB class 10 micro SD cards. We have seen issues with the Samsung Focus, Motorola Driod/X, HTC Evo 4g. We are currently working on a solution for this compatibility issue. Google and Microsoft have stated that there are known compatibility issues with 32GB class 10 micro SD cards and are working on a solution as well.
We have found a fix that works in many cases, where you format the card in a Windows based PC, with FAT32, allocation size 32kb, and full format. This is not an official fix, but troubleshooting steps that has worked in many cases, we are still working on a permanent solution for this issue.
Thank You for choosing Patriot Memory!"
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I'm doing this now, and it's taking a LONG time. I thought the progress bar wasn't moving at all, but it is. It's been going for at least 10 minutes so far.
Racer447 said:
Sirooga,
There is a known problem with some 32gb class 10 cards corrupting data in android phones. The workaround is to format it with a windows pc. Do a full format, not a quick one, and the important part is to set the cluster size to 32kb. After that it put it back in the phone and all should be good.
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I will try this tonight. I had tried a couple of cluster sizes before with no luck and full formats take a while.will hit thanks when i'm at a PC.
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You guys may want to try deleting some of your old unwatched porn movies.....I know mine take up a couple of gigs of my storage
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sirooga said:
I will try this tonight. I had tried a couple of cluster sizes before with no luck and full formats take a while.will hit thanks when i'm at a PC.
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Well I think the solution is to get a class 4 or 6 card until they figure it out.it didn't work on Kingston 32GB class 10
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Does anybody know if this feature is part of the phone's software? I can't seem to find the option. Kinda useless to have SD card slot if I'm limited to transferring files over.
For instance all my music is backed up via Google music and I save stuff to the phone as I go which eats up a lot of space..
And the worst part is some apps allow you to move to the SD card but it seems like all the important ones don't even have the option.
ANNOYING!
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junior_mafioso said:
Does anybody know if this feature is part of the phone's software? I can't seem to find the option. Kinda useless to have SD card slot if I'm limited to transferring files over.
For instance all my music is backed up via Google music and I save stuff to the phone as I go which eats up a lot of space..
And the worst part is some apps allow you to move to the SD card but it seems like all the important ones don't even have the option.
ANNOYING!
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Adoptable storage isn't enabled on mm on any OEM roms including Sony that alone tells me how reliable it'll be. It can be enabled though via adb pretty easily check the Normal xa forum someone has already done it but the storage details are all messed up its just a load of random no's. Also Google it there's plenty of ways to get it working if that's what you want.
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Adoptable storage isn't enabled on mm on any OEM roms including Sony that alone tells me how reliable it'll be. It can be enabled though via adb pretty easily check the Normal xa forum someone has already done it but the storage details are all messed up its just a load of random no's. Also Google it there's plenty of ways to get it working if that's what you want.
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Thanks. Its hard to think that it is such a big deal to have this feature, but oh well.. There should at least be a standard 32gb rule on any Android phone at this point considering how much usable space you end up with. I'm at almost 80% with just apps downloaded.
junior_mafioso said:
Thanks. Its hard to think that it is such a big deal to have this feature, but oh well.. There should at least be a standard 32gb rule on any Android phone at this point considering how much usable space you end up with. I'm at almost 80% with just apps downloaded.
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Yep that I do agree on 32gb should be the standard now. I'm not that bad yet still got just over 4gb free. The last update on my xa ending in 73 freed up a extra gb internal memory no idea what they've deleted though.
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