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I'm giving my retired Vibrant to my girlfriend but she doesn't want to pay for the Android data package, she just wants to enjoy the awesomeness of a rooted Vibrant and be able to do everything with a cheaper data package. I guess question is can she upgrade her data to something other then the Android data package and still have full use of it?
My wife and kids all have Android phones and just use wifi. It works fine that way. When they are away from wifi they just use texting for Facebook and Twitter.
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Yes but its ur girlfriend they don't last forever what if yea break up ur gonna want ur phone back lmao
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Jasonhunterx said:
Yes but its ur girlfriend they don't last forever what if yea break up ur gonna want ur phone back lmao
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and thats why when my GF asked for my extra phone i beat the f*ck out of her.
OWAIT- that wasn't me that was prob Chris Brown when Rihanna wanted his vibrant.
wtf is wrong with me? anyone else question me?
xriderx66 said:
and thats why when my GF asked for my extra phone i beat the f*ck out of her.
OWAIT- that wasn't me that was prob Chris Brown when Rihanna wanted his vibrant.
wtf is wrong with me? anyone else question me?
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[insert "you should be banned for commenting like this on this forum" comment here].
Oh wait, its the internet.
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I'm giving my retired Vibrant to my girlfriend but she doesn't want to pay for the Android data package, she just wants to enjoy the awesomeness of a rooted Vibrant and be able to do everything with a cheaper data package. I guess question is can she upgrade her data to something other then the Android data package and still have full use of it?
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you can try to enable the cheap data for her, but tmobile will see her imei as an android phone and automatically upgrade you to android 3g. BUT you don't need to buy any sort of data package, you just won't have mobile data if you don't.
well thanks to those of you who gave me a real answer lol
I sold mine to a friend & all he did was buy a cheapo pre-paid t-mobile phone..$19 & activated it and took the sim & put it in the vibrant. He just buys the $50 unlimited cards every month for it. (2 or 3 GB)
When I first bought my Vibrant I still had an old "dumb phone" with a few weeks left on contract, it had unlimited data but not the "smart phone 3G" data plan since it was a old flip style type. I thought I'd try one night to switch the SIM cards and see if it werked. It didn't I mean it did at first, and I was like "SWEET!" then all of a sudden it gave an error message and the jig was up.
Before everyone flips out on me... give me a second. So I told my dad he was going to lose his unlimited data if he didn't upgrade his phone by today. Which of course he ends up waiting until today to do. Come to find out that he had to upgrade before today in order to keep his unlimited data. We are on a family share plan and only me and my dad have unlimited data, but my brother and sister, who are also on it, have the 2GB data cap.
So I told him to try to transfer his upgrade to one of them and get the subsidized price and just upgrade it on his line. So he tries to pre-order the SGSIII on my brother's line and this pops up.
"The existing plan Nationwide Account Level Talk & Text Family Share 2000, is not compatible with the new device." So it either chooses new individual plan or new share voice and data plan.
What's confusing though is that under smartphone data packages, it doesn't have the new family data plan pricing. It still has 2 GB for $30, 5GB for $50, and 10GB for $80 and under plan shares summary on the left side where the totals are, it does say "Nationwide Account Level Talk & Text Family Share 2000". So I'm confused as F*CK right now and I want my dad to keep his unlimited for at least another 2 years, but I also don't want to lose mine and get screwed over with this new family data share plan. Not to mention that fact that I'm not sure whether they are actually forcing us into this new data share plan or not.
Thoughts? Can anyone who has a family plan with an upgrade vouch?
There is no more grandfathering it on on subsidized phones. You have to purchase the phone out right to keep unlimited now. No upgrading from 3G to 4G and keeping unlimited either I believe.
Put him on an individual account and then merge the two later on. The account change probably wouldnt happen til you activated the phone on your brothers account any ways...They effed up my rezound upgrade/account and that happened. Easy fix :3
Edit: that may not work due to their crap share accounts...
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mjones73 said:
Sorry, only way to keep unlimited now is to buy the phone out right. No more grandfathering it on on subsidized phones.
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Sigh... Right over your head
antp121 said:
Put him on an individual account and then merge the two later on. The account change probably wouldnt happen til you activated the phone on your brothers account any ways...They effed up my rezound upgrade/account and that happened. Easy fix :3
Edit: that may not work due to their crap share accounts...
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The problem is I'm not sure whether the share accounts are even in the system yet. It's telling me I have to switch to the data share plan, but doesn't give me the data plan pricing that verizon states.
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Sigh... Right over your head
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I'm telling you per their new policies, there's no way to buy a subsidized phone and keep your unlimited data regardless what their system is telling you.. You stated you wanted to keep his unlimited data and get him a subsidized phone, what exactly went over my head?
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The problem is I'm not sure whether the share accounts are even in the system yet. It's telling me I have to switch to the data share plan, but doesn't give me the data plan pricing that verizon states.
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Hmm. Idk then....
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mjones73 said:
I'm telling you per their new policies, there's no way to buy a subsidized phone and keep your unlimited data regardless what their system is telling you.. You stated you wanted to keep his unlimited data and get him a subsidized phone, what exactly went over my head?
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You stated something I already knew. Why would I post this if I didn't know that? Were you aware of people getting unlimited data through the unlimited mobile hotspot promotion? There ARE loopholes. Now please stay on topic and stop telling me things I already know.
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Hmm. Idk then....
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Not to mention the fact that the same exact plan still pops up that says wasn't compatible with the device.
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You stated something I already knew. Why would I post this if I didn't know that? Were you aware of people getting unlimited data through the unlimited mobile hotspot promotion? There ARE loopholes. Now please stay on topic and stop telling me things I already know.
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Excuse me for not being a mind reader asshole... How the hell am I supposed to know what you already know then you come off like a prick about it. Thanks for reminding me why I stopped frequenting this forum.
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Excuse me for not being a mind reader asshole... How the hell am I supposed to know what you already know then you come off like a prick about it. Thanks for reminding me why I stopped frequenting this forum.
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Where in the thread title does it say anything about unlimited data? It has to do with the new family plans. Antp understood what I was trying to say. Also keep the personal attacks out of here. I don't want this thread closed because I would actually like an answer.
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I ordered the SIII yesterday and it let me keep my old unlimited data plan but mine was an individual plan.
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I ordered the SIII yesterday and it let me keep my old unlimited data plan but mine was an individual plan.
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Also, I would like to add that if the family data share plans aren't forced there should be no reason why an unlimited data line couldn't transfer their upgrade to a 2 GB plan. Have that person upgrade and upgrade the line on the unlimited person's line. Herego unlimited data being kept with an unsubsidized Price.
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prdog1 said:
I ordered the SIII yesterday and it let me keep my old unlimited data plan but mine was an individual plan.
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Why is everyone pre ordering the SIII? What is so good about it.
Ndaoud360 said:
Why is everyone pre ordering the SIII? What is so good about it.
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There is this awesome thing called www.google.com you should learn to utilize it.
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nosympathy said:
There is this awesome thing called www.google.com you should learn to utilize it.
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Yes I have searched the GSIII but still same specs almost unless gsm version and 4.8 inches is to big for me it's like the g-note and as well touchwiz I dont like.
But I do like the design and thats about it and I dont know about camera quality vs Rezound.
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Yes I have searched the GSIII but still same specs almost unless gsm version and 4.8 inches is to big for me it's like the g-note and as well touchwiz I dont like.
But I do like the design and thats about it and I dont know about camera quality vs Rezound.
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Battery life man. The S4 processor is a beast. Many reviewers said the thing is damn hard to.kill in a day under normal use.
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I ordered the SIII yesterday and it let me keep my old unlimited data plan but mine was an individual plan.
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So you decided to go for it too.
I pre-ordered mine back when we where talking on the mik.
I don't even really want the thing, I absolutely LOVE my rezounds but I figured I might as well grab the last subsidized phone available.
Op simple fix. If it isn't broken don't fix it! People really need to stop buying new phones. If you have unlimited, on any plan/network/phone please don't upgrade.
And I also agree with the screen being way to big and hassle.
Not to be off point here... But my HTCG2 ....grandfather'd from G1...to G2(HSPDA+)....2yrs still running...Running (ROOTED) ROM PORTED ISC4.4 my 4g speed is fast (check my post's for non believers) for proof of batt stats but I get close too 2days on normal usage...point is They didn't do an upgrade to the G2(*GOOGLE DEV PHONE) yet... and ur dad wants an S3? ....third one already and they keep making them to get ppl to *Want* to upgrade to get the better contracts out the way. Advice would be if you like the phone you have and are satisfied don't take any chance in 2012....(sry long)
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Well everyone's completely missing the point of my post. I'm trying to figure out if Verizon is indeed trying to force us into these new data share plans if you're on a family plan.
At&t has me buying a mandatory data plan(3gb) when I use about 300mb a month and that is because I purposely shut off wifi so I dont feel like a jackass for paying for something I do not use...
I have no need at all for data,I am always near a wifi spot,is there a way to make it seem like my smartphone is a dumbphone?
I have a bunch of att branded flip-phones laying around,is there a way to take the imei from of these and put it on the Note i717?
I'm sure if it is possible,it is complicated.Just wondering.
Thanks.
Buy a sim card for a dumbphone and put it in your smartphone
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I tried to do something similar.
I called At&t and told them that I wanted to use a flip phone and gave them the IMEI and everything,I used it for a few days and after I put it in an Atrix 2 I have.After 3 days I got a text saying they added a data plan for $20 to my account lol.
They can read the IMEI of the phone,if you call customer service,they can even tell you what sim is in what phone at that very moment.
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Buy a sim card for a dumbphone and put it in your smartphone
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I don't think that will work. I had that argument with at&t about not needing the data add-on for my sister-in-law's phone. She wanted the large screen for SMS and doesn't know the internet exists. I put an old 64k sim in the phone, and within the day the phone was cut off. After a call to at&t, they told me I need a data plan with the phone. They detect the type of phone.
Don't bring up the topic of phone cloning - its illegal and banned on xda, as it should be.
So it is "phone cloning"?
didnt know,thanks for the heads up.
I can understand making data mandatory on a subsidized phone but on one bought off contract,it is unfair.
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At&t has me buying a mandatory data plan(3gb) when I use about 300mb a month and that is because I purposely shut off wifi so I dont feel like a jackass for paying for something I do not use...
I have no need at all for data,I am always near a wifi spot,is there a way to make it seem like my smartphone is a dumbphone?
I have a bunch of att branded flip-phones laying around,is there a way to take the imei from of these and put it on the Note i717?
I'm sure if it is possible,it is complicated.Just wondering.
Thanks.
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Illegal, and will get caught by the carrier...
Activate a flip phone if you don't want a smart phone ...IMHO ....g
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I can understand making data mandatory on a subsidized phone but on one bought off contract,it is unfair.
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Believe me, brother, I'm in 100% agreement with you, but it's at&t's tune we dance to.
I think i am just going to sell this Note i717 and get a Nexus 7 for my tablet needs and pick up a tmobile branded galaxy s or something else cheap.
Pick up a Roger's I717R Note if you want to stay with this phone. ATT can't recognize the phone and won't put you on a data plan.
What kind of plan were you trying? Im using at&t prepaid and i havent been cut off
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Prepaid what? OP doesn't want data.
At&t no data just text,mms and calling
Using a sprint phone i gsm unlocked
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At&t no data just text,mms and calling
Using a sprint phone i gsm unlocked
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That doesn't make sense. Sprint phones are CDMA not GSM. Sprint network doesn't use a sim card to register. In other words, no sprint phone on at&t network.
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That doesn't make sense. Sprint phones are CDMA not GSM. Sprint network doesn't use a sim card to register. In other words, no sprint phone on at&t network.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664212
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664212
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It says MOTOROLA PHOTON. NOT I717..... Not sure where you trying to go with pasting a thread that has no relation to us....
I am pretty sure no one has successfully been able to do this unless the phone has hardware for both radios GSM & CDMA
Yes it has ability for both thread i posted allow for domestic gsm
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A Motorola photon from sprint with a Japanese radio. . .glad it works for you. But its off topic and not helpful for the OP.
I've been using AT&T prepaid plan for a few years now, the GNote is my third phone with prepaid plan ($50/mo: unlimited calling, text, data{only for non-smart phones}) but I'm cool with that. So I don't see why you can't do the same.
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I've been using AT&T prepaid plan for a few years now, the GNote is my third phone with prepaid plan ($50/mo: unlimited calling, text, data{only for non-smart phones}) but I'm cool with that. So I don't see why you can't do the same.
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Exactly what i did
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I don't think that will work. I had that argument with at&t about not needing the data add-on for my sister-in-law's phone. She wanted the large screen for SMS and doesn't know the internet exists. I put an old 64k sim in the phone, and within the day the phone was cut off. After a call to at&t, they told me I need a data plan with the phone. They detect the type of phone.
Don't bring up the topic of phone cloning - its illegal and banned on xda, as it should be.
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To add to this comment. At&t will also know if you are using any smartphone from any network or assume its a smart phone I guess. My wife uses a galaxy s 4g exclusive to t-mobile for about 4 months now. Last week she was hit with the 3 gig addition as well. They dont even know what type of phone it is. All she did was turn on the data to download an sms and bam a day later she got the the email.
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Hey guys, if anybody could provide me with some solid/sure answer to my noobish curiosity, I'd greatly appreciate it.
Okay, I'm currently on a Verizon basic phone (talk & text, no data). Since I like the Note II so much, I might get one off contract, provide if Verizon would give me a miniSIM Card with no data plan on it. I have WIFI at work and at home, so I don't really see the point of paying for $30 Data.
Although I'm due for upgrade in April, I would like save the $30 per month for the next two years.
Anyway, Note II OFF-Contract on Verizon with no data plan? Is that possible? Thanks...
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Hey guys, if anybody could provide me with some solid/sure answer to my noobish curiosity, I'd greatly appreciate it.
Okay, I'm currently on a Verizon basic phone (talk & text, no data). Since I like the Note II so much, I might get one off contract, provide if Verizon would give me a miniSIM Card with no data plan on it. I have WIFI at work and at home, so I don't really see the point of paying for $30 Data.
Although I'm due for upgrade in April, I would like save the $30 per month for the next two years.
Anyway, Note II OFF-Contract on Verizon with no data plan? Is that possible? Thanks...
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Smart phones require a smartphone data plan. No if amds or buts.
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nosympathy said:
Smart phones require a smartphone data plan. No if amds or buts.
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Well, even if you do not upgrade or receive upgrade discount on the phone device?
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Well, even if you do not upgrade or receive upgrade discount on the phone device?
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Yup. Welcome to Verizon. I know T-Mobile will let you since they goofed and did it to my on accident. But far as I am still aware at&t, Verizon and sprint all require a data plan on smart phones regardless of how you buy it.
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Yes Verizon will require data on a smart phone regardless.
The imei identifies the device on the network.
It is illegal to change it.
Its how they make there money...if it was possible everyone would do it.
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You could always just use it as a big media player. Youll get the same functionality as you are expecting to get already sans the phone and texting useage. Ive got a friend that uses an original note for that purpose. Of course his is the korean version so its a no go on the phone side anyway. Of course that would be a very expensive meda player!
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I have two. Although one was bricked and now off for repairs. Didn't want to wait to get it back so I bought another one.
Thanks for all the responses from everyone. I guess Verizon Note II is out of the question. Going to go T-Mobile prepaid mid-june.
$30/month for a) 5GB of 4G Data, Unlimited Text, 100 mins. Or b) 1500 whenever minutes or text (no data-- just use WIFI).
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I apologize if this is in the wrong forum.
I called Verizon to purchase a new phone out-of-contract. The sales rep told me that Verizon no longer allows out-of-contract purchases, their only option is month-to-month. She confirmed that this would take away my unlimited data.
I'm not sure if she's right so I'm asking folks here. Is this true, does Verizon no longer allow you to buy their phones without giving up unlimited data?
You can still buy phones full retail, but you do need to have service with Verizon - perhaps the rep thought out-of-contract meant you didn't have service anymore.
I had to buy mine at best buy when I bought off contract
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detonation said:
You can still buy phones full retail, but you do need to have service with Verizon - perhaps the rep thought out-of-contract meant you didn't have service anymore.
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I thought so too, but I clarified with her that I have an existing service with Verizon; that's how she saw my unlimited data plan.
I would try either going to a Verizon store or another rep. I can't see how they can deny you from giving them more money.
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kampana said:
The sales rep told me that Verizon no longer allows out-of-contract purchases, their only option is month-to-month.
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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't month-to-month the same as buying a phone off contract?
shobon said:
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't month-to-month the same as buying a phone off contract?
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It is but they shouldnt remove your unlimited data. Month to month is when your contract is up and you are eligible for an upgrade. I have heard a few rumors they are getting rid of unlimited next year and its final but they can't force you to upgrade.
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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't month-to-month the same as buying a phone off contract?
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I thought so too, but evidently not. She said I would lose my unlimited data which sounds like it's a brand new contract, albeit month to month.
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I thought so too, but evidently not. She said I would lose my unlimited data which sounds like it's a brand new contract, albeit month to month.
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In theory you should be able to pop your sim card out of your old 4G phone and put it in a new, off-contract phone and have it work without issue. Maybe since you're trying to buy it through Verizon, they're pushing their shared data crap.
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/08/2...-retail-with-no-hassle-use-the-iconic-portal/
Try this out on Verizon's site and see if it works.
**Keep in mind if your after the note 3 you can't reset the flash counter :'(
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ricecake2000 said:
It is but they shouldnt remove your unlimited data. Month to month is when your contract is up and you are eligible for an upgrade. I have heard a few rumors they are getting rid of unlimited next year and its final but they can't force you to upgrade.
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Wait, getting rid of unlimited data for everyone? Even legacy contracts?
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Wait, getting rid of unlimited data for everyone? Even legacy contracts?
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That's just a rumor floating around. I am not sure it has any steam or how they would go about doing it.
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This might be somewhat related to the topic but I try to do a device exchange for my wife who lost her phone. She went from an Android to an old iPhone4 and when I try to do it online the website was forcing me to upgrade my account meaning I would lose my unlimited data so instead I just called over the phone and did it OTA device change. It worked.
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In theory you should be able to pop your sim card out of your old 4G phone and put it in a new, off-contract phone and have it work without issue. Maybe since you're trying to buy it through Verizon, they're pushing their shared data crap.
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Not 100% certain, but I believe that would cause issues if the phone needed to switch to the 3G CDMA network.